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** [[TheNecromancer Darklord Blight]], while living, pretends to be a [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]] to trick Alice into using healing magic on him in their climatic battle.
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** [[TheNecromancer [[{{Necromancer}} Darklord Blight]], while living, pretends to be a [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]] to trick Alice into using healing magic on him in their climatic battle.
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** [[HealingMagicIsTheHardest Healing magic is very effective but rare and expensive]]. Thus using healing on the undead is AwesomeButImpractical.
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* '''Justified''': Zombies exist because of dark magic, and Alice's magic is light based. Light and dark magic don't mix well.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Zombies exist because of dark magic, and Alice's magic is light based. Light and dark magic don't mixwell.well.
** Life, death, and undeath depend on how much [[LifeEnergy life force]] you have. Living things have positive life force, undead things have negative life force, and dead things have zero life force. Healing spells can kill undead beings by increasing their life force to zero.
** Zombies exist because of dark magic, and Alice's magic is light based. Light and dark magic don't mix
** Life, death, and undeath depend on how much [[LifeEnergy life force]] you have. Living things have positive life force, undead things have negative life force, and dead things have zero life force. Healing spells can kill undead beings by increasing their life force to zero.
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** It isn't the effect itself which does the damage but the source. It is the good or neutral divine energy carrying the judgement of the god or goddess which does the destruction. Good gods usually smite as wicked or liberate the victims barring any holy quests. Neutral gods usually returns to their place in the natural cycle without any judgement.
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** Most corporeal undead are harmed by healing spells and healed by dark magic. There are a few exceptions. Mummies seem like this but aren't because the process does indeed give eternal life [[AgeWithoutYouth despite becoming decrepit enough to look undead]] and are healed but are harmed like other living things by dark magic. Plague zombies are are simply restored to life even if they were reanimated as a corpse. Spectral undead are unaffected as beings of pure spirit and unaffected by either. [[OurLichesAreDifferent Liches]] are usually the same as other undead but the rare one who masters both life and death magic is healed by both.
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** Most corporeal undead are harmed by healing spells and healed by dark magic. There are a few exceptions. Mummies seem like this but aren't because the process does indeed give eternal life [[AgeWithoutYouth despite becoming decrepit enough to look undead]] and are healed but are harmed like other living things by dark magic. Plague zombies are are simply restored to life even if they were reanimated as a corpse. Spectral undead are unaffected as beings of pure spirit and unaffected by either.spirit. [[OurLichesAreDifferent Liches]] are usually the same as other undead but the rare one who masters both life and death magic is healed by both.
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* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Alice tries to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. She is so horrified by this that she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
** Alice tries to heal Bob, her teammate who was zombified after attack by a monster, but it kills him instead. Leading to [[{{What Have I Done}} Alice getting traumatized.]]
* '''Reconstructed''': [[TheHero Bob]] is able to convince Alice that the person who was a zombie would have thanked her [[MercyKill for ending their suffering]]. Alice is able to come back to her senses with Bob's help.
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Alice tries to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. She is so horrified by this that she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
** Alice tries to heal Bob, her teammate who was zombified after attack by a monster, but it kills him instead. Leading to [[{{What Have I Done}} Alice getting traumatized.]]
* '''Reconstructed''': [[TheHero Bob]] is able to convince Alice that the person who was a zombie would have thanked her [[MercyKill for ending their suffering]]. Alice is able to come back to her senses with Bob's help.
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* '''Conversed''': ???
"So magic that restores life instead ''takes'' life from something that technically doesn't have life at all? Gotta love magic-logic in these stories."
*'''Deconstructed''':
**'''Deconstructed''': Alice tries to use her healing magic to bring a zombie zombified person back to life, but thinking that it would cure the zombification, ends up killing it completely instead. She is so horrified by this that she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
** Alice tries to heal Bob, her teammate who was zombified after attack by a monster, but it kills him instead. Leading to [[{{What Have I Done}} Alice getting traumatized.]]
* '''Reconstructed''': [[TheHero Bob]] is able Bob has to convince Alice that beat the person who was a zombie would have thanked her [[MercyKill ''back to death'' in order for ending their suffering]]. Alice is able to come heal it back to her senses with Bob's help.life because a dead zombie is the same as a dead anything else.
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** Excesses of healing can kill living targets.
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** Healing magic on undead depends upon the level of power. If it isn't strong enough it results in partial revival of a rotten corpse - which unless enough is restored or prompt treatment given results in the undead briefly becoming alive before dying of septic shock. One strong enough to revive essentially every part of them at once is restored as normal.
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** The undead are initially healed by the magic but it also causes them to rapidly take damage over time.
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** Most corporeal undead are harmed by healing spells and healed by dark magic. There are a few exceptions. Mummies however the process does indeed give eternal life [[AgeWithoutYouth despite becoming decrepit enough to look undead]] and are healed but are harmed like other living things by dark magic. Plague zombies are are simply restored to life even if they were reanimated as a corpse. Spectral undead are unaffected as beings of pure spirit and unaffected by either. [[OurLichesAreDifferent Liches]] are usually the same as other undead but the rare one who masters both life and death magic is healed by both.
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** Most corporeal undead are harmed by healing spells and healed by dark magic. There are a few exceptions. Mummies however seem like this but aren't because the process does indeed give eternal life [[AgeWithoutYouth despite becoming decrepit enough to look undead]] and are healed but are harmed like other living things by dark magic. Plague zombies are are simply restored to life even if they were reanimated as a corpse. Spectral undead are unaffected as beings of pure spirit and unaffected by either. [[OurLichesAreDifferent Liches]] are usually the same as other undead but the rare one who masters both life and death magic is healed by both.both.
** Healing is elemental in nature and affected accordingly. Those very weak against an element will be harmed even by healing. Those immune will not receive any healing and those strong against will receive bonus healing. Furthermore conditions can affect what type of healing is effective or turned actively harmful! Using nature magic on an infection is a horrible idea for instance as it energizes bacteria far more - which is also how it destroys undead.
** Healing is elemental in nature and affected accordingly. Those very weak against an element will be harmed even by healing. Those immune will not receive any healing and those strong against will receive bonus healing. Furthermore conditions can affect what type of healing is effective or turned actively harmful! Using nature magic on an infection is a horrible idea for instance as it energizes bacteria far more - which is also how it destroys undead.
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** Alice tries to heal bob, her teammate who was zombified after attack by a monster, but it kills him instead. Leading to [[{{What Have I Done}} Alice getting traumatized.]]
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** Alice tries to heal bob, Bob, her teammate who was zombified after attack by a monster, but it kills him instead. Leading to [[{{What Have I Done}} Alice getting traumatized.]]
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Each form of undead is affected differently by heals.
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** Each form of undead is affected differently by heals.
** Each form of undead is affected differently by heals.
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** Most corporeal undead are harmed by healing spells and healed by dark magic. There are a few exceptions. Mummies however the process does indeed give eternal life [[AgeWithoutYouth despite becoming decrepit enough to look undead]] and are healed but are harmed like other living things by dark magic. Plague zombies are are simply restored to life even if they were reanimated as a corpse. Spectral undead are unaffected as beings of pure spirit and unaffected by either. [[OurLichesAreDifferent Liches]] are usually the same as other undead but the rare one who masters both life and death magic is healed by both.
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* '''Implied''': In a report about casualties inflicted upon zombie hordes healers both inflicted the highest casualties and noted that the zombies did not get back up again.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alice tries to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. She is so horrified by this that she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Alice tries to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. She is so horrified by this that she goes into aHeroicBSOD.HeroicBSOD.
** Alice tries to heal bob, her teammate who was zombified after attack by a monster, but it kills him instead. Leading to [[{{What Have I Done}} Alice getting traumatized.]]
** Alice tries to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. She is so horrified by this that she goes into a
** Alice tries to heal bob, her teammate who was zombified after attack by a monster, but it kills him instead. Leading to [[{{What Have I Done}} Alice getting traumatized.]]
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* '''Exploited''': [[TheNecromancer Darklord Blight]], while living, pretends to be a [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]] to trick Alice into using healing magic on him in their climatic battle.
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* '''Exploited''': '''Exploited''':
** [[TheNecromancer Darklord Blight]], while living, pretends to be a [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]] to trick Alice into using healing magic on him in their climaticbattle.battle.
** Claire is a WhiteMage with a zombification spell, so she zombifies her opponents and then uses a revival spell on them, killing them instantly.
** [[TheNecromancer Darklord Blight]], while living, pretends to be a [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]] to trick Alice into using healing magic on him in their climatic
** Claire is a WhiteMage with a zombification spell, so she zombifies her opponents and then uses a revival spell on them, killing them instantly.
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'''Basic Trope''': An undead creature is killed when healing magic is used on it.
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'''Basic Trope''': An undead [[TheUndead undead]] creature is killed (or at least injured) when healing magic is used on it.
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* '''Justified''': Zombies exist because of dark magic and Alice's magic is light based. Light and dark magic don't mix well.
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* '''Justified''': Zombies exist because of dark magic magic, and Alice's magic is light based. Light and dark magic don't mix well.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alice tries to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. So horrified by this she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alice tries to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. So She is so horrified by this that she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
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* '''Downplayed''': The zombie is caused a lot of pain, but is otherwise no worse for wear.
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* '''Downplayed''': The zombie is caused spell [[AgonyBeam inflicts a lot considerable amount of pain, pain]] on the zombie, but is otherwise no worse for wear.
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* '''Inverted''': The heal spell heals the zombies just as it would anyone else. In fact, it [[BackFromTheDead brings the zombie back to life]].
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** The heal spell heals the zombies just as it would anyone else. In fact, it [[BackFromTheDeadbrings the turns zombies back into living humans]].
** Dark magic that is used to repair damaged zombieback bodies causes grievous harm to life]].still-living targets.
** The heal spell heals the zombies just as it would anyone else. In fact, it [[BackFromTheDead
** Dark magic that is used to repair damaged zombie
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* '''Parodied''': Alice starts treating the zombie's wounds with conventinal means like bandages and ointments. The zombie is protesting that she's killing it.
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* '''Parodied''': Alice starts treating the zombie's wounds with conventinal conventional means like bandages and ointments. The zombie is protesting that she's killing it.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alice trys to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. So horrified by this she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alice trys tries to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. So horrified by this she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
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* '''Straight''': [[WhiteMage Alice]] cases a Heal on a zombie, killing it.
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* '''Straight''': [[WhiteMage Alice]] cases casts a Heal on a zombie, killing it.
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* '''Straight''': [[WhiteMagicalGirl Alice]] cases a Heal on a zombie, killing it.
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* '''Straight''': [[WhiteMagicalGirl [[WhiteMage Alice]] cases a Heal on a zombie, killing it.
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'''Basic Trope''': An undead creature is killed when healing magic is used on it.
* '''Straight''': [[WhiteMagicalGirl Alice]] cases a Heal on a zombie, killing it.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice gives the zombie a drop of a low level potion, and it disintegrates.
* '''Downplayed''': The zombie is caused a lot of pain, but is otherwise no worse for wear.
* '''Justified''': Zombies exist because of dark magic and Alice's magic is light based. Light and dark magic don't mix well.
* '''Inverted''': The heal spell heals the zombies just as it would anyone else. In fact, it [[BackFromTheDead brings the zombie back to life]].
* '''Subverted''': The zombie seems to fall over dead from the spell, but just gets back up.
* '''Double Subverted''': Alice then casts Heal II to put it down for good.
* '''Parodied''': Alice starts treating the zombie's wounds with conventinal means like bandages and ointments. The zombie is protesting that she's killing it.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Each form of undead is affected differently by heals.
* '''Averted''': Heals don't do anything to undead, good or bad.
* '''Enforced''': The developers wanted to give the healing class a chance to do some fighting.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Isn't that supposed to ''cure'' people, not ''kill'' them?"
* '''Invoked''': Alice discovers healing's effects on undead during her studies and decides to keep it in mind just in case.
* '''Exploited''': [[TheNecromancer Darklord Blight]], while living, pretends to be a [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]] to trick Alice into using healing magic on him in their climatic battle.
* '''Defied''':
** Alice choses to save her magic for healing her comrades rather than going on the offensive.
** Alice is a ActualPacifist and won't use her magic to cause ''any'' harm.
* '''Discussed''': "You ever see a zombie fall apart when anything normal would have been right as rain?" "What are those bastards ''made'' of, I wonder."
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice trys to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. So horrified by this she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
* '''Reconstructed''': [[TheHero Bob]] is able to convince Alice that the person who was a zombie would have thanked her [[MercyKill for ending their suffering]]. Alice is able to come back to her senses with Bob's help.
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%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
* '''Straight''': [[WhiteMagicalGirl Alice]] cases a Heal on a zombie, killing it.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice gives the zombie a drop of a low level potion, and it disintegrates.
* '''Downplayed''': The zombie is caused a lot of pain, but is otherwise no worse for wear.
* '''Justified''': Zombies exist because of dark magic and Alice's magic is light based. Light and dark magic don't mix well.
* '''Inverted''': The heal spell heals the zombies just as it would anyone else. In fact, it [[BackFromTheDead brings the zombie back to life]].
* '''Subverted''': The zombie seems to fall over dead from the spell, but just gets back up.
* '''Double Subverted''': Alice then casts Heal II to put it down for good.
* '''Parodied''': Alice starts treating the zombie's wounds with conventinal means like bandages and ointments. The zombie is protesting that she's killing it.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Each form of undead is affected differently by heals.
* '''Averted''': Heals don't do anything to undead, good or bad.
* '''Enforced''': The developers wanted to give the healing class a chance to do some fighting.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Isn't that supposed to ''cure'' people, not ''kill'' them?"
* '''Invoked''': Alice discovers healing's effects on undead during her studies and decides to keep it in mind just in case.
* '''Exploited''': [[TheNecromancer Darklord Blight]], while living, pretends to be a [[OurLichesAreDifferent lich]] to trick Alice into using healing magic on him in their climatic battle.
* '''Defied''':
** Alice choses to save her magic for healing her comrades rather than going on the offensive.
** Alice is a ActualPacifist and won't use her magic to cause ''any'' harm.
* '''Discussed''': "You ever see a zombie fall apart when anything normal would have been right as rain?" "What are those bastards ''made'' of, I wonder."
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice trys to use her magic to bring a zombie back to life, but ends up killing it completely instead. So horrified by this she goes into a HeroicBSOD.
* '''Reconstructed''': [[TheHero Bob]] is able to convince Alice that the person who was a zombie would have thanked her [[MercyKill for ending their suffering]]. Alice is able to come back to her senses with Bob's help.
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