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** [[GenreSavvy Nathan]] takes measures in place to execute everyone and everything who could potentially seek revenge for any of his evil deeds. {{S|arcasm mode}}urprisingly, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome this ends up giving him a reputation as a man who slaughters entire continents just to be able to]] [[PokeThePoodle shoplift a candy bar from the store]].
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** [[GenreSavvy Nathan]] takes measures in place to execute everyone and everything who could potentially seek revenge for any of his evil deeds. {{S|arcasm mode}}urprisingly, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome this ends up giving him a reputation as a man who slaughters entire continents just to be able to]] to [[PokeThePoodle shoplift a candy bar from the store]].
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** Bob is a UsefulNotes/{{Sociopath|y}} who is looking for an [[DogKickingExcuse excuse]] to commit heartless deeds against others whilst avoiding being seen as the evil villain he is by the public, so when Nathan inevitably does something bad to Bob, Bob does something bad to Nathan back and [[KarmaHoudini gets away with it]] due to the fact that the latter did something cruel to the former.
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** Bob is a UsefulNotes/{{Sociopath|y}} [[TheSociopath Sociopath]] who is looking for an [[DogKickingExcuse excuse]] to commit heartless deeds against others whilst avoiding being seen as the evil villain he is by the public, so when Nathan inevitably does something bad to Bob, Bob does something bad to Nathan back and [[KarmaHoudini gets away with it]] due to the fact that the latter did something cruel to the former.
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* '''Straight''': After [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Nathan]] {{ki|ck the dog}}lls [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth Alice]], [[AntiHero Bob]] sets out for Nathan’s blood, and ''will'' kill anyone who stands in his way.
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** 4.) Bob then remembers the horrors of what Nathan did to him including countless civilians that are [[MoralEventHorizon so horrific]], and eventually decides that RevengeIsSweet.
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** Nathan is a VillainWithGoodPublicity who would’ve escaped punishment through [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney bribery]] and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections connections]], so Bob relies on Vigilante Justice instead of [[PoliceAreUseless The Police]].
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** Nathan has done so many shit to Bob to the point where Bob [[RageBreakingPoint snapped]].
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** Bob has had enough of Nathan being a KarmaHoudini.
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** Bob has had enough of Nathan being a KarmaHoudini.has not ''only'' killed Alice, but thousands of innocent civilians as well. Pretty much ''everybody'' expected [[PayEvilUntoEvil this]] to happen to Nathan due to the path this douchebag went.
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* '''Conversed''': “Why do the fans [[UnintentionallySympathetic have such a problem with]] [[RonTheDeathEater Bob]] [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic attacking]] [[DracoInLeatherPants Nathan]]? [[BrokenBase I would've done the same thing if I was Bob.]]"
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* '''Conversed''': “Why do [[MisaimedFandom the fans fans]] [[UnintentionallySympathetic have such a problem with]] [[RonTheDeathEater Bob]] [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic attacking]] [[DracoInLeatherPants Nathan]]? [[BrokenBase I would've done the same thing if I was Bob.]]"
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* '''Discussed''': "It's a wonder on how [[KarmaHoudini Nathan is still alive]], considering the people with dead loved ones.”
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* '''Discussed''': "It's a wonder on how [[KarmaHoudini Nathan is still alive]], considering all the people with dead loved ones.”
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** 1.) When being forced to interrogated on why Harold did it, Harold comes out clean and reveals his secret of being a {{Pr|ofessional killer}}ivate BountyHunter who was hired by Bob to gruesomely slaughter Nathan in the name of [[TitleDrop Revenge]]. Bob only hired him [[TechnicalPacifist to avoid]] [[RevengeIsNotJustice being brought to justice for]] [[PayEvilUntoEvil Pay Evil Unto Evil]].
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** 1.) When being forced to interrogated on why Harold did it, Harold comes out clean and reveals his secret of being a {{Pr|ofessional killer}}ivate BountyHunter who was hired by Bob to gruesomely slaughter Nathan in the name of [[TitleDrop Revenge]]. Bob only hired him [[TechnicalPacifist to avoid]] [[RevengeIsNotJustice being brought to justice for]] [[PayEvilUntoEvil Pay Paying Evil Unto Evil]].
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** 3.) Considering the fact that Nathan was a {{Blackmail}}ing, [[BadBoss Abusive]], [[DirtyCoward Back]][[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder stabbing]], and [[ThreateningTropes extremely]] [[HairTriggerTemper violent]] LoanShark, you’d (and the investigators) expect the murderer to have a personal connection with him as to why the latter killed the former, but no. The “[[SympatheticMurderer murderer]]” was actually a GentlemanThief who plans to [[LovableRogue rob Nathan’s]] {{Megacorp}} [[JustLikeRobinHood and give it to the poor]]. He [[MoralLuck only shot Nathan]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch just to avoid the police to get on his tail]], but the chips were already down, and Nathan had already made the phone call.
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** 3.) Considering the fact that Nathan was a {{Blackmail}}ing, [[BadBoss Abusive]], [[DirtyCoward Back]][[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder stabbing]], and [[ThreateningTropes extremely]] [[HairTriggerTemper violent]] LoanShark, you’d (and the investigators) expect the murderer to have a personal connection with him as to why the latter killed the former, but no. The “[[SympatheticMurderer “[[KillingInSelfDefense murderer]]” was actually a GentlemanThief who plans to [[LovableRogue rob Nathan’s]] {{Megacorp}} [[JustLikeRobinHood and give it to the poor]]. He [[MoralLuck only shot Nathan]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch just to avoid the police to get on his tail]], but the chips were already down, and Nathan had already made the phone call.
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** Bob decides to get [[DisproportionateRetribution revenge]] on everyone and everything whom has wronged him; The Policeman who gave him a ticket when he was 20, the [[MailmanVsDog dog]] who kept barking at him when he was a mailman, his [[PointyHairedBoss boss]] and [[OnlySaneEmployee co-workers]] [[RunningGag for driving him nuts, that one dude who beat him at]] ''{{TabletopGame/Poker}}'' at the bar, [[AndZoidberg Charleston]] for being his SitcomArchNemesis, [[OverlyLongGag etc]].
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** Bob decides to get [[DisproportionateRetribution revenge]] on everyone and everything whom has wronged him; The Policeman who gave him a ticket when he was 20, the [[MailmanVsDog dog]] who kept barking at him when he was a mailman, his [[PointyHairedBoss boss]] and [[OnlySaneEmployee co-workers]] [[RunningGag for driving him nuts, that one dude who beat him at]] ''{{TabletopGame/Poker}}'' at the bar, [[AndZoidberg Charleston]] Charleston for being his SitcomArchNemesis, [[OverlyLongGag etc]].
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** Despite his feelings, Bob decides to turn Nathan’s crimes into the authority.
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* '''Lampshaded''': “[[BondOneLiner What comes around]] [[LaserGuidedKarma goes around, Nathan]]. [[PostMortemOneLiner You’ve something bad to me, so now I did something bad to]] ''[[PostMortemOneLiner you]]''.
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* '''Lampshaded''': “[[BondOneLiner What comes around]] [[LaserGuidedKarma goes around, Nathan]]. [[PostMortemOneLiner [[BondOneLiner You’ve something bad to me, so now I did something bad to]] ''[[PostMortemOneLiner ''[[BondOneLiner you]]''.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': In a SadistShow, [[HeroicComedicSociopath Bob]] [[DroppedABridgeOnHim kills]] [[CardCarryingVillain Nathan]] in a BlackComedy[=-esque=] fashion.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': In a SadistShow, [[HeroicComedicSociopath Bob]] [[DroppedABridgeOnHim kills]] gets revenge on [[CardCarryingVillain Nathan]] by [[DroppedABridgeOnHim killing him]] in a BlackComedy[=-esque=] fashion.
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'''Basic Trope''': One character wrongs another [[ItsPersonal in an extremely personal way]], so the latter [[PayEvilUntoEvil decides to pays back the former in spades]].
* '''Straight''': After [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Nathan]] {{ki|ck the dog}}lls [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth Alice]], [[AntiHero Bob]] sets out for Nathan’s blood, and ''will'' kill anyone who stands in his way.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** RoaringRampageOfRevenge
** DisproportionateRetribution
** CycleOfRevenge
** Nathan was a [[CompleteMonster heartless monster]] who is [[CardCarryingVillain proud of being an irredeemable bastard who regularly crosses the]] MoralEventHorizon [[ButForMeItWasTuesday on a daily basis]], but the sheer brutality of the way Bob was retaliating against the former, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters made the latter just as sadistic and vicious as him]].
** Once he’s done with [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying an eye for an eye]], [[RevengeByProxy Bob will do the same to Nathan’s friends, family,]] his [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes loved ones]] in general, his [[{{mooks}} soldiers]], [[EliteMooks generals]], [[CoDragons right hand men]], [[PraetorianGuard guards]], and the rest of the members of his {{Megacorp}}.
** Bob decides to get [[DisproportionateRetribution revenge]] on everyone and everything whom has wronged him; The Policeman who gave him a ticket when he was 20, the [[MailmanVsDog dog]] who kept barking at him when he was a mailman, his [[PointyHairedBoss boss]] and [[OnlySaneEmployee co-workers]] [[RunningGag for driving him nuts, that one dude who beat him at]] ''{{TabletopGame/Poker}}'' at the bar, [[AndZoidberg Charleston]] for being his SitcomArchNemesis, [[OverlyLongGag etc]].
** Everyone who [[CompleteMonster Nathan]] has [[MoralEventHorizon horrifically wronged]] [[CruelAndUnusualDeath violently kills him]].
** Nathan orders his {{mooks}} to violently murder all of Bob’s loved ones, so Bob, a Wizard, casts a spell on Nathan that causes him [[AndIMustScream to experience a]] FateWorseThanDeath.
* '''Downplayed''':
** [[TheBully Nathan]] beats up Alice, so Bob beats Nathan up.
** [[{{Jerkass}} Nathan]] calls Bob a “Douchebag” so Bob calls Nathan an “Asshole”.
** PayEvilUntoEvil for when it’s not necessarily ''[[ItsPersonal that]]'' personal, but otherwise the same implications from this {{trope}} ties to that one.
* '''Justified''':
** It’s a CrapsackWorld where ruthlessness is allowed to [[KarmaHoudini roam free]] lest if [[VigilanteMan someone]] does something about it.
** Bob is an AntiHero.
** Nathan has done so many shit to Bob to the point where Bob [[RageBreakingPoint snapped]].
** Nathan is a VillainWithGoodPublicity who would’ve escaped punishment through [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney bribery]] and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections connections]], so Bob relies on Vigilante Justice instead of [[PoliceAreUseless The Police]].
** Bob has had enough of Nathan being a KarmaHoudini.
** Bob wants to [[MakeAnExampleOfThem set an example]] for anyone who wishes to commit the same magnitude of evildoing.
** RevengeIsSweet
* '''Inverted''':
** BecauseYouWereNiceToMe[=/=]KarmicJackpot: Bob [[PetTheDog does something good to Alice]], [[RousseauWasRight so Alice does something good to him back.]]
** TurnTheOtherCheek
** NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished[=/=]TheFarmerAndTheViper
* '''Subverted''':
** 1.) When TheHero [[ByTheBookCop DI]] [[NaiveNewcomer Sco]][[OnlySaneMan tt]] interrogates the murder scene of [[AssholeVictim Nathan]], [[TheLancer DCI]] [[OldFashionedCopper Shel]][[KnightInSourArmor don]] [[MotiveEqualsConclusiveEvidence suggests that Bob must have done it due to Alice being on Nathan’s victim list]] AKA the record that [[WhamShot reveals that Nathan was actually an]] [[EvilAllAlong Unrepentant, Sociopathic Murderer this whole time]] that randomly fell on the floor [[ContrivedCoincidence by chance]]. [[RedHerring However, later on]], [[TheReveal it is revealed that]] ''[[SouthernGentleman Harold]]'' was the murderer.
** 2.) When the policemen interrogate Bob about the slaughtering of Nathan on A. If the latter did it or not, and B. If A is answered “Yes”, on why Bob did it. Bob answers A with “[[BluntYes Yes]]”, and B with the fact that Nathan was an “[[HateSink Amoral Man]] who has killed millions of innocents either ForTheEvulz or for [[TheNarcissist selfish]] and/or [[LoanShark mone]][[TheUnfettered tary]] gain,” including his girlfriend, so he had to make Nathan pay for his crimes. One of the cops [[WhatTheHellHero calls out Bob]] for being a {{Manipulative|Bastard}} [[BlatantLies Liar]] and points out that [[WealthyPhilanthropist Nathan]] would never do that because of how well Charlie knew him.
** 3.) Considering the fact that Nathan was a {{Blackmail}}ing, [[BadBoss Abusive]], [[DirtyCoward Back]][[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder stabbing]], and [[ThreateningTropes extremely]] [[HairTriggerTemper violent]] LoanShark, you’d (and the investigators) expect the murderer to have a personal connection with him as to why the latter killed the former, but no. The “[[SympatheticMurderer murderer]]” was actually a GentlemanThief who plans to [[LovableRogue rob Nathan’s]] {{Megacorp}} [[JustLikeRobinHood and give it to the poor]]. He [[MoralLuck only shot Nathan]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch just to avoid the police to get on his tail]], but the chips were already down, and Nathan had already made the phone call.
** 4.) Bob confronts Nathan on the {{Roof top|Confrontation}} with a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock Glock 17]] ready to [[BoomHeadshot blow out the latter’s brains just like fireworks on The Fourth of July,]] but then [[EveryoneHasStandards refrains from the kill]].
** 5.) Bob chases down Nathan in a vain attempt to make the latter pay for [[MoralEventHorizon his crimes]], but is inevitably [[YouShallNotPass halted]] by Nathan’s [[TheDragon Right Hand Man]], [[ColonelKilgore General]] [[KnightTemplar Drake]], and is {{kil|led off for real}}[[TheHeroDies led]] in a fight with him before avenging the death of Alice and making Nathan face justice.
* '''Double Subverted''':
** 1.) When being forced to interrogated on why Harold did it, Harold comes out clean and reveals his secret of being a {{Pr|ofessional killer}}ivate BountyHunter who was hired by Bob to gruesomely slaughter Nathan in the name of [[TitleDrop Revenge]]. Bob only hired him [[TechnicalPacifist to avoid]] [[RevengeIsNotJustice being brought to justice for]] [[PayEvilUntoEvil Pay Evil Unto Evil]].
** 1.) Alternatively: Harold was also wronged by Nathan in some sort of cruel and malicious way, and thus, [[LaserGuidedKarma killed him]].
** 2.) The investigators were right on the fact that Bob was lying, but only partially, as Bob was exaggerating. In short, [[BitchInSheepsClothing everything else Bob said about Nathan in his explanation for the crime was true]].
** 4.) So Bob [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures him alive]] [[TechnicalPacifist without technically killing him]].
** 5.) And then, [[ActionGirl Diana]], Bob’s KnightTemplarBigSister, sets out on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, even if it meant [[GottaKillEmAll taking down all his personal guards and workers/employees there, including the CEO himself]].
** 5.) [[EvenEvilHasStandards General Drake then]] [[VillainRealization realizes on how much of a dick his boss was]], and [[PayEvilUntoEvil kills Nathan]] for the latter’s sins.
* '''Parodied''':
** Nathan commits the [[SarcasmMode heinous crime]] of [[EvilIsPetty stealing Bob’s books]]. So Bob gets back at Nathan by [[PokeThePoodle stealing Nathan’s books]].
** Bob gets “revenge” on Nathan by [[CrossesTheLineTwice burning him alive, stabbing him to death, beats Nathan’s carcass into a bloody pulp, tips out his intestines, and horrifically tears his body into bloody pieces]]. Bonus points if Bob does this to Nathan [[DisproportionateRetribution for when the latter beat him at]] ''{{TabletopGame/Chess}}''.
* '''Zig-Zagged''': Depending on his mood, sometimes Bob gets revenge, while at other times he doesn’t.
* '''Averted''':
** Despite his feelings, Bob decides to turn Nathan’s crimes into the authority.
** [[AssholeVictim Nathan]]’s {{Jerkass}}ery has nothing to do with his death.
** Despite being responsible for Alice’s death, [[KarmaHoudini Nathan lives a happy, stress-free life without any repercussions of his actions whatsoever]].
** Bob’s motives of killing Nathan are never explained nor the [[NothingPersonal latter’s character is brought into this at all]].
* '''Enforced''':
** “[[GrayingMorality We need an]] AntiVillain. A DarkAndTroubledPast and a sympathetic motivation for all the crimes they’re committing should do the trick.”
** The creators wanted to avoid the NominalHero they added in their series to fall into UnintentionallyUnsympathetic DesignatedHero territory, so they decide to use this {{trope}} as his main motive for being on the side of good, as it is the most sympathetic non-[[ForGreatJustice standard hero goal]] there is.
** The Author wanted to write a {{Tragedy}}.
** Nathan is a HateSink, and so the producers wanted the fans to be [[CatharsisFactor satisfied]] for his inevitable [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty downfall]], conflicting with [[KarmaHoudini the original idea]]. The producers decide this is the best way to do it because Nathan getting his LaserGuidedKarma [[DeusExMachina by suddenly having a random heart attack or just randomly being killed by]] [[AssholeVictim something he didn’t cause in general out of the blue]] seemed cheesy.
* '''Lampshaded''': “[[BondOneLiner What comes around]] [[LaserGuidedKarma goes around, Nathan]]. [[PostMortemOneLiner You’ve something bad to me, so now I did something bad to]] ''[[PostMortemOneLiner you]]''.
* '''Invoked''': Nathan orders his personal army of PrivateMilitaryContractors [[TargetedToHurtTheHero to gruesomely slaughter every last of Bob’s loved ones so that the former can quickly]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters drag the latter down to his level]] [[MoralEventHorizon in terms of heinousness]].
* '''Exploited''':
** Bob is a UsefulNotes/{{Sociopath|y}} who is looking for an [[DogKickingExcuse excuse]] to commit heartless deeds against others whilst avoiding being seen as the evil villain he is by the public, so when Nathan inevitably does something bad to Bob, Bob does something bad to Nathan back and [[KarmaHoudini gets away with it]] due to the fact that the latter did something cruel to the former.
** [[TheDarkLord Emperor]] [[MagnificentBastard Evulz]] dresses his [[{{mooks}} soldiers]] in the same metal armor of Nathan’s private guards in order to lure Bob into his SupervillainLair as a [[BoobyTrap trap]].
* '''Defied''':
** [[RevengeIsSweet Sweet]] or [[VengeanceFeelsEmpty not]], Bob decided not to get revenge because [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim it’s dragging him down to Nathan’s level]].
** “[[WhatTheHellHero How could you do such a thing, Bob?!]] [[NoSympathyForGrudgeholders You're just]] [[NotSoDifferentRemark as bad as him!]]”
** Knowing the ramifications of his actions, Nathan [[TheAtoner turns over a new leaf]] ([[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Or at least]] [[FalselyReformedVillain fakes doing so]] [[PragmaticVillain to avoid retaliation from Bob]]) [[TheAtoner and reforms]] because there’s no point in [[HeelFaceDoorSlam punishing a changed man for his past crimes]].
** [[GenreSavvy Nathan]] takes measures in place to execute everyone and everything who could potentially seek revenge for any of his evil deeds. {{S|arcasm mode}}urprisingly, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome this ends up giving him a reputation as a man who slaughters entire continents just to be able to]] [[PokeThePoodle shoplift a candy bar from the store]].
* '''Discussed''': "It's a wonder on how [[KarmaHoudini Nathan is still alive]], considering the people with dead loved ones.”
* '''Conversed''': “Why do the fans [[UnintentionallySympathetic have such a problem with]] [[RonTheDeathEater Bob]] [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic attacking]] [[DracoInLeatherPants Nathan]]? [[BrokenBase I would've done the same thing if I was Bob.]]"
* '''Deconstructed''':
** 1.) In addition for ordering one of his {{mooks}} to execute Alice, Nathan has done so many [[KickTheDog horrible things]] to Bob to the point where Bob decides that getting even with Nathan via [[KarmicDeath killing him]] isn’t enough to satisfy him. [[HeWhoFightsMonsters This leads to Bob becoming just as much as, if not more of, a bloodthirsty and sadistic murderer than Nathan himself]].
** 2.) RevengeIsNotJustice: Bob killing Nathan leads to the former becoming a {{vigilante|Man}}, which is outlawed by TheGovernment, and thus, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Bob is arrested for this]]. Bonus points if [[NoSympathyForGrudgeholders the obsession of revenge alienates the rest of Bob’s loved ones from him]].
** 3.) CycleOfRevenge: Nathan is a VillainWithGoodPublicity, and so when Bob inevitably kills him, his family [[AvengingTheVillain plans to murder Bob]], which soon [[SerialEscalation escalates]] into ''the entire city of Tropeville getting revenge on each other'', leaving ''Tropeville'' as a(n even worse) CrapsackWorld with [[EverybodyDiesEnding little to no people who live there surviving]].
** 4.) VengeanceFeelsEmpty: Not only did Bob spent way too much time and energy on hating on Nathan to the point of becoming an extremely tired and apathetic EmptyShell once his revenge plan is done, but [[CruelAndUnusualDeath the revenge plan itself]] {{m|y God what have I done}}ortified [[EveryoneHasStandards Bob]], and causes him to cross the DespairEventHorizon [[HeroicBSOD out of pure guilt and remorse of the gravity of his crimes]]. Eventually, Bob is DrivenToSuicide.
** 5.) RevengeBeforeReason: After Emperor Evulz’s {{mooks}} kill Alice, Bob slaughters Evulz as well as a couple other of [[{{mooks}} soldiers]] and [[CoDragons generals]] who was [[YouShallNotPass standing in Bob’s way]]. However {{villain|s}} or not, Evulz [[TheCaligula was in charge of the village Bob lives in]], and if he is dead, not only will the village of ''Tropeville'' become a WretchedHive with a high criminal rate, but several {{greed}}y people end up having a [[SuccessionCrisis civil war over who should be the new monarch]], [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized leading to several conflicts]] that could've been avoided if the monarch was never killed.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** 1.) But even ''if'' Bob [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Jumps off The Slippery Slope]] when getting his revenge on Nathan, no matter how much in a vicious fashion, [[CompleteMonster Nathan]] [[AssholeVictim still deserved it]].
** 2.) [[invoked]][[NeutralGood Bob]] is fine with being stuck in prison for the rest of his life all alone as along as Nathan can’t hurt anyone anymore, and thus, the city of ''Tropeville'' becomes a better place because of it.
** 4.) Bob then remembers the horrors of what Nathan did to him including countless civilians that are [[MoralEventHorizon so horrific]], and eventually decides that RevengeIsSweet.
** 4.) Alternatively: [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Bob]] really ''did'' deserve to fall into a deep depression due to on relying ''too'' much on RevengeByProxy via harming lots of innocents, and [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming a just as bad of a person than Nathan]] in the process.
* '''Implied''': In the {{Video Game|s}}, ''[[CozyMystery Murder in Tropeville City]]'', some {{Easter Egg}}s reveal that Nathan, the murder victim on one of the levels of the game, [[EvilAllAlong is actually a]] SerialKiller, while Bob, the murderer of Nathan’s level, has a girlfriend named “Alice”, a name found on Nathan’s list of victims. However, during the ending cutscene, Bob’s motives are {{ambiguous|Situation}} despite him saying [[EvilIsPetty that he murdered Nathan just because he felt like it]]. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation It is unknown on whether it’s a case of revenge or an]] AssholeVictim.
* '''Played For Laughs''': In a SadistShow, [[HeroicComedicSociopath Bob]] [[DroppedABridgeOnHim kills]] [[CardCarryingVillain Nathan]] in a BlackComedy[=-esque=] fashion.
* '''Played For Drama''': Nathan has done so many [[MoralEventHorizon irredeemably evil crimes]] to [[TheWoobie Bob]] [[EvilIsFun all for the sake of]] [[{{Sadist}} making the latter suffer]]. When Alice is inevitably slaughtered in an overly grotesque way, Bob [[RageBreakingPoint snaps]] from all the torment Nathan gave him. His {{Morality Pet}}’s death lead to an UnstoppableRage [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge that knows no bounds]], [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil causing Bob to horrifically murder]] ''every personal guard of Nathan he can find'', including (and ''especially'') the big cheese himself. [[OhCrap Nathan now realizes the seriousness of the situation]]…
* '''Played For Horror''': See PlayedForDrama, but make the crimes Nathan commited against Bob much more scary and unforgivable, as well as cranking up the level of brutality Bob’s RoaringRampageOfRevenge is against Nathan and his guards, as well as Bob’s insanity to the point of [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming]] [[CompleteMonster an even worse monster than Nathan]] by a long shot.
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* '''Straight''': After [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Nathan]] {{ki|ck the dog}}lls [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth Alice]], [[AntiHero Bob]] sets out for Nathan’s blood, and ''will'' kill anyone who stands in his way.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** RoaringRampageOfRevenge
** DisproportionateRetribution
** CycleOfRevenge
** Nathan was a [[CompleteMonster heartless monster]] who is [[CardCarryingVillain proud of being an irredeemable bastard who regularly crosses the]] MoralEventHorizon [[ButForMeItWasTuesday on a daily basis]], but the sheer brutality of the way Bob was retaliating against the former, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters made the latter just as sadistic and vicious as him]].
** Once he’s done with [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying an eye for an eye]], [[RevengeByProxy Bob will do the same to Nathan’s friends, family,]] his [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes loved ones]] in general, his [[{{mooks}} soldiers]], [[EliteMooks generals]], [[CoDragons right hand men]], [[PraetorianGuard guards]], and the rest of the members of his {{Megacorp}}.
** Bob decides to get [[DisproportionateRetribution revenge]] on everyone and everything whom has wronged him; The Policeman who gave him a ticket when he was 20, the [[MailmanVsDog dog]] who kept barking at him when he was a mailman, his [[PointyHairedBoss boss]] and [[OnlySaneEmployee co-workers]] [[RunningGag for driving him nuts, that one dude who beat him at]] ''{{TabletopGame/Poker}}'' at the bar, [[AndZoidberg Charleston]] for being his SitcomArchNemesis, [[OverlyLongGag etc]].
** Everyone who [[CompleteMonster Nathan]] has [[MoralEventHorizon horrifically wronged]] [[CruelAndUnusualDeath violently kills him]].
** Nathan orders his {{mooks}} to violently murder all of Bob’s loved ones, so Bob, a Wizard, casts a spell on Nathan that causes him [[AndIMustScream to experience a]] FateWorseThanDeath.
* '''Downplayed''':
** [[TheBully Nathan]] beats up Alice, so Bob beats Nathan up.
** [[{{Jerkass}} Nathan]] calls Bob a “Douchebag” so Bob calls Nathan an “Asshole”.
** PayEvilUntoEvil for when it’s not necessarily ''[[ItsPersonal that]]'' personal, but otherwise the same implications from this {{trope}} ties to that one.
* '''Justified''':
** It’s a CrapsackWorld where ruthlessness is allowed to [[KarmaHoudini roam free]] lest if [[VigilanteMan someone]] does something about it.
** Bob is an AntiHero.
** Nathan has done so many shit to Bob to the point where Bob [[RageBreakingPoint snapped]].
** Nathan is a VillainWithGoodPublicity who would’ve escaped punishment through [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney bribery]] and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections connections]], so Bob relies on Vigilante Justice instead of [[PoliceAreUseless The Police]].
** Bob has had enough of Nathan being a KarmaHoudini.
** Bob wants to [[MakeAnExampleOfThem set an example]] for anyone who wishes to commit the same magnitude of evildoing.
** RevengeIsSweet
* '''Inverted''':
** BecauseYouWereNiceToMe[=/=]KarmicJackpot: Bob [[PetTheDog does something good to Alice]], [[RousseauWasRight so Alice does something good to him back.]]
** TurnTheOtherCheek
** NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished[=/=]TheFarmerAndTheViper
* '''Subverted''':
** 1.) When TheHero [[ByTheBookCop DI]] [[NaiveNewcomer Sco]][[OnlySaneMan tt]] interrogates the murder scene of [[AssholeVictim Nathan]], [[TheLancer DCI]] [[OldFashionedCopper Shel]][[KnightInSourArmor don]] [[MotiveEqualsConclusiveEvidence suggests that Bob must have done it due to Alice being on Nathan’s victim list]] AKA the record that [[WhamShot reveals that Nathan was actually an]] [[EvilAllAlong Unrepentant, Sociopathic Murderer this whole time]] that randomly fell on the floor [[ContrivedCoincidence by chance]]. [[RedHerring However, later on]], [[TheReveal it is revealed that]] ''[[SouthernGentleman Harold]]'' was the murderer.
** 2.) When the policemen interrogate Bob about the slaughtering of Nathan on A. If the latter did it or not, and B. If A is answered “Yes”, on why Bob did it. Bob answers A with “[[BluntYes Yes]]”, and B with the fact that Nathan was an “[[HateSink Amoral Man]] who has killed millions of innocents either ForTheEvulz or for [[TheNarcissist selfish]] and/or [[LoanShark mone]][[TheUnfettered tary]] gain,” including his girlfriend, so he had to make Nathan pay for his crimes. One of the cops [[WhatTheHellHero calls out Bob]] for being a {{Manipulative|Bastard}} [[BlatantLies Liar]] and points out that [[WealthyPhilanthropist Nathan]] would never do that because of how well Charlie knew him.
** 3.) Considering the fact that Nathan was a {{Blackmail}}ing, [[BadBoss Abusive]], [[DirtyCoward Back]][[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder stabbing]], and [[ThreateningTropes extremely]] [[HairTriggerTemper violent]] LoanShark, you’d (and the investigators) expect the murderer to have a personal connection with him as to why the latter killed the former, but no. The “[[SympatheticMurderer murderer]]” was actually a GentlemanThief who plans to [[LovableRogue rob Nathan’s]] {{Megacorp}} [[JustLikeRobinHood and give it to the poor]]. He [[MoralLuck only shot Nathan]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch just to avoid the police to get on his tail]], but the chips were already down, and Nathan had already made the phone call.
** 4.) Bob confronts Nathan on the {{Roof top|Confrontation}} with a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock Glock 17]] ready to [[BoomHeadshot blow out the latter’s brains just like fireworks on The Fourth of July,]] but then [[EveryoneHasStandards refrains from the kill]].
** 5.) Bob chases down Nathan in a vain attempt to make the latter pay for [[MoralEventHorizon his crimes]], but is inevitably [[YouShallNotPass halted]] by Nathan’s [[TheDragon Right Hand Man]], [[ColonelKilgore General]] [[KnightTemplar Drake]], and is {{kil|led off for real}}[[TheHeroDies led]] in a fight with him before avenging the death of Alice and making Nathan face justice.
* '''Double Subverted''':
** 1.) When being forced to interrogated on why Harold did it, Harold comes out clean and reveals his secret of being a {{Pr|ofessional killer}}ivate BountyHunter who was hired by Bob to gruesomely slaughter Nathan in the name of [[TitleDrop Revenge]]. Bob only hired him [[TechnicalPacifist to avoid]] [[RevengeIsNotJustice being brought to justice for]] [[PayEvilUntoEvil Pay Evil Unto Evil]].
** 1.) Alternatively: Harold was also wronged by Nathan in some sort of cruel and malicious way, and thus, [[LaserGuidedKarma killed him]].
** 2.) The investigators were right on the fact that Bob was lying, but only partially, as Bob was exaggerating. In short, [[BitchInSheepsClothing everything else Bob said about Nathan in his explanation for the crime was true]].
** 4.) So Bob [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures him alive]] [[TechnicalPacifist without technically killing him]].
** 5.) And then, [[ActionGirl Diana]], Bob’s KnightTemplarBigSister, sets out on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, even if it meant [[GottaKillEmAll taking down all his personal guards and workers/employees there, including the CEO himself]].
** 5.) [[EvenEvilHasStandards General Drake then]] [[VillainRealization realizes on how much of a dick his boss was]], and [[PayEvilUntoEvil kills Nathan]] for the latter’s sins.
* '''Parodied''':
** Nathan commits the [[SarcasmMode heinous crime]] of [[EvilIsPetty stealing Bob’s books]]. So Bob gets back at Nathan by [[PokeThePoodle stealing Nathan’s books]].
** Bob gets “revenge” on Nathan by [[CrossesTheLineTwice burning him alive, stabbing him to death, beats Nathan’s carcass into a bloody pulp, tips out his intestines, and horrifically tears his body into bloody pieces]]. Bonus points if Bob does this to Nathan [[DisproportionateRetribution for when the latter beat him at]] ''{{TabletopGame/Chess}}''.
* '''Zig-Zagged''': Depending on his mood, sometimes Bob gets revenge, while at other times he doesn’t.
* '''Averted''':
** Despite his feelings, Bob decides to turn Nathan’s crimes into the authority.
** [[AssholeVictim Nathan]]’s {{Jerkass}}ery has nothing to do with his death.
** Despite being responsible for Alice’s death, [[KarmaHoudini Nathan lives a happy, stress-free life without any repercussions of his actions whatsoever]].
** Bob’s motives of killing Nathan are never explained nor the [[NothingPersonal latter’s character is brought into this at all]].
* '''Enforced''':
** “[[GrayingMorality We need an]] AntiVillain. A DarkAndTroubledPast and a sympathetic motivation for all the crimes they’re committing should do the trick.”
** The creators wanted to avoid the NominalHero they added in their series to fall into UnintentionallyUnsympathetic DesignatedHero territory, so they decide to use this {{trope}} as his main motive for being on the side of good, as it is the most sympathetic non-[[ForGreatJustice standard hero goal]] there is.
** The Author wanted to write a {{Tragedy}}.
** Nathan is a HateSink, and so the producers wanted the fans to be [[CatharsisFactor satisfied]] for his inevitable [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty downfall]], conflicting with [[KarmaHoudini the original idea]]. The producers decide this is the best way to do it because Nathan getting his LaserGuidedKarma [[DeusExMachina by suddenly having a random heart attack or just randomly being killed by]] [[AssholeVictim something he didn’t cause in general out of the blue]] seemed cheesy.
* '''Lampshaded''': “[[BondOneLiner What comes around]] [[LaserGuidedKarma goes around, Nathan]]. [[PostMortemOneLiner You’ve something bad to me, so now I did something bad to]] ''[[PostMortemOneLiner you]]''.
* '''Invoked''': Nathan orders his personal army of PrivateMilitaryContractors [[TargetedToHurtTheHero to gruesomely slaughter every last of Bob’s loved ones so that the former can quickly]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters drag the latter down to his level]] [[MoralEventHorizon in terms of heinousness]].
* '''Exploited''':
** Bob is a UsefulNotes/{{Sociopath|y}} who is looking for an [[DogKickingExcuse excuse]] to commit heartless deeds against others whilst avoiding being seen as the evil villain he is by the public, so when Nathan inevitably does something bad to Bob, Bob does something bad to Nathan back and [[KarmaHoudini gets away with it]] due to the fact that the latter did something cruel to the former.
** [[TheDarkLord Emperor]] [[MagnificentBastard Evulz]] dresses his [[{{mooks}} soldiers]] in the same metal armor of Nathan’s private guards in order to lure Bob into his SupervillainLair as a [[BoobyTrap trap]].
* '''Defied''':
** [[RevengeIsSweet Sweet]] or [[VengeanceFeelsEmpty not]], Bob decided not to get revenge because [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim it’s dragging him down to Nathan’s level]].
** “[[WhatTheHellHero How could you do such a thing, Bob?!]] [[NoSympathyForGrudgeholders You're just]] [[NotSoDifferentRemark as bad as him!]]”
** Knowing the ramifications of his actions, Nathan [[TheAtoner turns over a new leaf]] ([[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Or at least]] [[FalselyReformedVillain fakes doing so]] [[PragmaticVillain to avoid retaliation from Bob]]) [[TheAtoner and reforms]] because there’s no point in [[HeelFaceDoorSlam punishing a changed man for his past crimes]].
** [[GenreSavvy Nathan]] takes measures in place to execute everyone and everything who could potentially seek revenge for any of his evil deeds. {{S|arcasm mode}}urprisingly, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome this ends up giving him a reputation as a man who slaughters entire continents just to be able to]] [[PokeThePoodle shoplift a candy bar from the store]].
* '''Discussed''': "It's a wonder on how [[KarmaHoudini Nathan is still alive]], considering the people with dead loved ones.”
* '''Conversed''': “Why do the fans [[UnintentionallySympathetic have such a problem with]] [[RonTheDeathEater Bob]] [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic attacking]] [[DracoInLeatherPants Nathan]]? [[BrokenBase I would've done the same thing if I was Bob.]]"
* '''Deconstructed''':
** 1.) In addition for ordering one of his {{mooks}} to execute Alice, Nathan has done so many [[KickTheDog horrible things]] to Bob to the point where Bob decides that getting even with Nathan via [[KarmicDeath killing him]] isn’t enough to satisfy him. [[HeWhoFightsMonsters This leads to Bob becoming just as much as, if not more of, a bloodthirsty and sadistic murderer than Nathan himself]].
** 2.) RevengeIsNotJustice: Bob killing Nathan leads to the former becoming a {{vigilante|Man}}, which is outlawed by TheGovernment, and thus, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Bob is arrested for this]]. Bonus points if [[NoSympathyForGrudgeholders the obsession of revenge alienates the rest of Bob’s loved ones from him]].
** 3.) CycleOfRevenge: Nathan is a VillainWithGoodPublicity, and so when Bob inevitably kills him, his family [[AvengingTheVillain plans to murder Bob]], which soon [[SerialEscalation escalates]] into ''the entire city of Tropeville getting revenge on each other'', leaving ''Tropeville'' as a(n even worse) CrapsackWorld with [[EverybodyDiesEnding little to no people who live there surviving]].
** 4.) VengeanceFeelsEmpty: Not only did Bob spent way too much time and energy on hating on Nathan to the point of becoming an extremely tired and apathetic EmptyShell once his revenge plan is done, but [[CruelAndUnusualDeath the revenge plan itself]] {{m|y God what have I done}}ortified [[EveryoneHasStandards Bob]], and causes him to cross the DespairEventHorizon [[HeroicBSOD out of pure guilt and remorse of the gravity of his crimes]]. Eventually, Bob is DrivenToSuicide.
** 5.) RevengeBeforeReason: After Emperor Evulz’s {{mooks}} kill Alice, Bob slaughters Evulz as well as a couple other of [[{{mooks}} soldiers]] and [[CoDragons generals]] who was [[YouShallNotPass standing in Bob’s way]]. However {{villain|s}} or not, Evulz [[TheCaligula was in charge of the village Bob lives in]], and if he is dead, not only will the village of ''Tropeville'' become a WretchedHive with a high criminal rate, but several {{greed}}y people end up having a [[SuccessionCrisis civil war over who should be the new monarch]], [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized leading to several conflicts]] that could've been avoided if the monarch was never killed.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** 1.) But even ''if'' Bob [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Jumps off The Slippery Slope]] when getting his revenge on Nathan, no matter how much in a vicious fashion, [[CompleteMonster Nathan]] [[AssholeVictim still deserved it]].
** 2.) [[invoked]][[NeutralGood Bob]] is fine with being stuck in prison for the rest of his life all alone as along as Nathan can’t hurt anyone anymore, and thus, the city of ''Tropeville'' becomes a better place because of it.
** 4.) Bob then remembers the horrors of what Nathan did to him including countless civilians that are [[MoralEventHorizon so horrific]], and eventually decides that RevengeIsSweet.
** 4.) Alternatively: [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Bob]] really ''did'' deserve to fall into a deep depression due to on relying ''too'' much on RevengeByProxy via harming lots of innocents, and [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming a just as bad of a person than Nathan]] in the process.
* '''Implied''': In the {{Video Game|s}}, ''[[CozyMystery Murder in Tropeville City]]'', some {{Easter Egg}}s reveal that Nathan, the murder victim on one of the levels of the game, [[EvilAllAlong is actually a]] SerialKiller, while Bob, the murderer of Nathan’s level, has a girlfriend named “Alice”, a name found on Nathan’s list of victims. However, during the ending cutscene, Bob’s motives are {{ambiguous|Situation}} despite him saying [[EvilIsPetty that he murdered Nathan just because he felt like it]]. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation It is unknown on whether it’s a case of revenge or an]] AssholeVictim.
* '''Played For Laughs''': In a SadistShow, [[HeroicComedicSociopath Bob]] [[DroppedABridgeOnHim kills]] [[CardCarryingVillain Nathan]] in a BlackComedy[=-esque=] fashion.
* '''Played For Drama''': Nathan has done so many [[MoralEventHorizon irredeemably evil crimes]] to [[TheWoobie Bob]] [[EvilIsFun all for the sake of]] [[{{Sadist}} making the latter suffer]]. When Alice is inevitably slaughtered in an overly grotesque way, Bob [[RageBreakingPoint snaps]] from all the torment Nathan gave him. His {{Morality Pet}}’s death lead to an UnstoppableRage [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge that knows no bounds]], [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil causing Bob to horrifically murder]] ''every personal guard of Nathan he can find'', including (and ''especially'') the big cheese himself. [[OhCrap Nathan now realizes the seriousness of the situation]]…
* '''Played For Horror''': See PlayedForDrama, but make the crimes Nathan commited against Bob much more scary and unforgivable, as well as cranking up the level of brutality Bob’s RoaringRampageOfRevenge is against Nathan and his guards, as well as Bob’s insanity to the point of [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming]] [[CompleteMonster an even worse monster than Nathan]] by a long shot.
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