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** Dracone has a history of [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder betraying his allies once he gets what he wants]], and even if he's on the heroes side for good, they are still wary of him betraying them.
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** Hiro and his team acknowledge that Dracone's redemption might be real, and are willing to hear him out, but they give it time before they forgive him for real.
** Although Hiro and his team are willing to forgive Dracone for his actions, they don't want to let him join their team.
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** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground and crying for help was witnessed by a number of civilians and recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome After Dracone is carried to the emergency room]] [[KarmicJackpot by the people he managed to save]], [[RayOfHopeEnding he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted]].

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** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground and crying for help was witnessed by a number of civilians and recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments After Dracone is carried to the emergency room]] [[KarmicJackpot by the people he managed to save]], [[RayOfHopeEnding he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted]].
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** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground and crying for help was witnessed by a number of civilians and recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. After Dracone is carried to the emergency room [[KarmicJackpot by the people he managed to save]], [[RayOfHopeEnding he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted]].

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** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground and crying for help was witnessed by a number of civilians and recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome After Dracone is carried to the emergency room room]] [[KarmicJackpot by the people he managed to save]], [[RayOfHopeEnding he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted]].
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** Dracone has had a change of heart and decides to begin his RedemptionQuest by helping the heroes, who were disgusted when they heard about this: the more Dracone always tries to help them, the more vehement they become and decided to [[HeelFaceDoorSlam mercilessly kill him]]. Unfortunately for them, this doesn't go unnoticed, and now the entire superhero community is giving them similar treatment for violating the golden rule and having the blood of an atoning villain on their hands; ThouShallNotKill.

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** Dracone has had a change of heart and decides to begin his RedemptionQuest by helping the heroes, who were disgusted when they heard about this: the more Dracone always tries to help them, the more vehement they become and decided to [[HeelFaceDoorSlam mercilessly kill him]]. [[WhatTheHellHero Unfortunately for them, this doesn't go unnoticed, unnoticed, and now the entire superhero community is giving them similar treatment for violating the golden rule and having the blood of an atoning villain on their hands; hands]]; ThouShallNotKill.
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** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground and crying for help was witnessed by a number of civilians and recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. After Dracone is carried to the emergency room [[KarmicJackpot by the people he managed to save]], he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted.

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** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground and crying for help was witnessed by a number of civilians and recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. After Dracone is carried to the emergency room [[KarmicJackpot by the people he managed to save]], [[RayOfHopeEnding he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted.plummeted]].

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* '''Defied''': "I know you've done wrong in the past, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt."

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"I know you've done wrong in the past, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.""
** Hiro swallows his {{pride}} and "forgives" Dracone, but only to keep the latter from [[ChronicVillainy returning back to evil]].
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** The heroes acknowledges that Dracone has turn over a new leaf.

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** The heroes acknowledges acknowledge that Dracone has turn over a new leaf.



** While they're adamant on wanting him gone from the team, Dracone has to remind them that, due to their corperate sponsors ''requiring'' them to have an atoning villain like him on their team, either as a form of community service, because they need a DarkerAndEdgier member to round out their team, or both, they really have no choice but to suck it up and tolerate his "unbearable" presence while he works to improve his reputation.

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** While they're adamant on wanting him gone from the team, Dracone has to remind them that, due to their corperate corporate sponsors ''requiring'' them to have an atoning villain like him on their team, either as a form of community service, because they need a DarkerAndEdgier member to round out their team, or both, they really have no choice but to suck it up and tolerate his "unbearable" presence while he works to improve his reputation.

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** ReformedButNotTamed

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** [[HeelFaceMole Dracone was faking his conversion to the side of good,]] [[FalselyReformedVillain and the heroes, the general public, or both don't question it even though they should be more suspicious.]]

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** [[HeelFaceMole [[FakeDefector Dracone was faking his conversion to the side of good,]] [[FalselyReformedVillain and the heroes, the general public, or both don't question it even though they should be more suspicious.]]
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** "You've reformed? That's cool, I don't care. If you're actually serious about this, you'll prove it by staying away from me and never bothering me again."
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** But in time, he relents and realizes that they ''had'' to act like that to stay safe, and rejoins them - this time for good. This eventually serves as a reminder of why he [[BeingEvilSucks wanted to change his ways in the first place]], and surrenders the heroes expressing his feelings about it, which finally convinces them to give him another chance.

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** But in time, he relents and realizes that they ''had'' to act like that to stay safe, and rejoins them - this time for good. This eventually serves as a reminder of why he [[BeingEvilSucks wanted to change his ways in the first place]], and surrenders to the heroes heroes, expressing his feelings about it, which finally convinces them to give him another chance.



** One of the heroes who was a MoralityPet to Dracone [[NoSympathyForGrudgeholders chew them out for]] [[WhatTheHellHero holding a grudge towards him]]. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone The heroes felt remorseful]], and they all went to apologize Dracone; surprisingly to them, Dracone [[EasilyForgiven forgives them quickly]]. This is to prove that Dracone is a better hero than the heroes were, and thus, the heroes accepted him as the new member of the forces of good.

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** One of the heroes who was a MoralityPet to Dracone [[NoSympathyForGrudgeholders chew them out for]] [[WhatTheHellHero holding a grudge towards him]]. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone The heroes felt remorseful]], and they all went to apologize Dracone; surprisingly to them, Dracone he [[EasilyForgiven forgives them quickly]]. This is to prove that Dracone is a better hero than the heroes were, and thus, the heroes accepted him as the new member of the forces of good.
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** Driving an atoning villain to suicide and feeling "vindicated" in doing so made the heroes [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer pariahs]] to all of the citizens, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the criminals]]; now, they [[LaserGuidedKarma know what it's like to never be forgiven for their mistakes]].

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** A [[MoralityPet forgiving hero]] calls the others out for Dracone's suicide and permanently leaves the group. Driving an atoning villain to suicide and feeling "vindicated" in doing so made the heroes [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer pariahs]] to all of the citizens, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the criminals]]; now, they [[LaserGuidedKarma know what it's like to never be forgiven for their mistakes]].
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** Before leaving to parts unknown, Dracone leaves all his knowledge on his former organization on one extensive data chip, along with a heartfelt goodbye and an apology that things didn't work out between them. Hiro and the other heroes have a collective MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment and wished they had the chance to thank him before he left.

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** Before leaving to parts unknown, Dracone leaves all his knowledge on his former organization on one extensive data chip, along with a heartfelt goodbye and an apology note that things didn't work out between them. Hiro and the other heroes have a collective MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment and wished they had the chance to thank him before he left.
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** While they're adamant on wanting him gone from the team, Dracone has to remind them that, due to their corperate sponsors ''requiring'' them to have an atoning villain like him on their team, either as a form of community service, because they need a DarkerAndEdgier member to round out their team or both, they really have no choice but to suck it up and tolerate his "unbearable" presence while he works to improve his reputation.

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** While they're adamant on wanting him gone from the team, Dracone has to remind them that, due to their corperate sponsors ''requiring'' them to have an atoning villain like him on their team, either as a form of community service, because they need a DarkerAndEdgier member to round out their team team, or both, they really have no choice but to suck it up and tolerate his "unbearable" presence while he works to improve his reputation.


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** Dracone proves his capacity for heroism in the eyes of society by saving Hiro and his team from the current BigBad. [[UngratefulBastard When they ''still'' refuse to trust him, and some even accuse him of staging it to fake his reformation without any proof]], he gives up on earning their trust and settles on the next best thing; never missing a chance to remind them that he's the only reason they're still breathing.
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** Dracone has had a change of heart and decides to begin his RedemptionQuest by helping the heroes, who were disgusted when they heard about this: the more Dracone always tries to help them, the more vehement they become and decided to [[HeelFaceDoorSlam mercilessly kill him]]. Unfortunately for them, this doesn't go unnoticed.

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** Dracone has had a change of heart and decides to begin his RedemptionQuest by helping the heroes, who were disgusted when they heard about this: the more Dracone always tries to help them, the more vehement they become and decided to [[HeelFaceDoorSlam mercilessly kill him]]. Unfortunately for them, this doesn't go unnoticed.unnoticed, and now the entire superhero community is giving them similar treatment for violating the golden rule and having the blood of an atoning villain on their hands; ThouShallNotKill.
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** While they're adamant on wanting him gone from the team, Dracone has to remind them that, due to their corperate sponsors ''requiring'' them to have an atoning villain like him on their team, they really have no choice but to suck it up and tolerate his "unbearable" presence while he works to improve his reputation.
** Hiro and the others refuse to give Dracone any sort of credit and repeatedly make it clear that they could care less about whether his reformation attempts are genuine or not, they just want him to go away. The general public on the other hand, feels the opposite due to just how diligent his acts of heroism are. [[WhatTheHellHero Both Dracone and the public never miss a chance to point this out to them]], much to their frustration.

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** While they're adamant on wanting him gone from the team, Dracone has to remind them that, due to their corperate sponsors ''requiring'' them to have an atoning villain like him on their team, either as a form of community service, because they need a DarkerAndEdgier member to round out their team or both, they really have no choice but to suck it up and tolerate his "unbearable" presence while he works to improve his reputation.
** Hiro and the others refuse to give Dracone any sort of credit and repeatedly make it clear that they could care less about whether his reformation attempts are genuine or not, they just want him to go away. away and never bother them again. The general public on the other hand, feels the opposite due to just how diligent and sincere his acts of heroism are. [[WhatTheHellHero Both Dracone and the public never miss a chance to point this out to them]], them]] or the fact that just kicking him out without just cause would reflect badly on them, much to their frustration.
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** Dracone flat-out quits fighting alongside Hiro and the others after much mistreatment, but instead of rejoining the bad guys side like they expected, he simply bails for parts unknown in the hopes of a quiet life. Hiro and the others could care less since they still got him out of their sight... only to have an OhCrap moment when they realize that they just drove away their one source of vital intel into the organization that he used to work for.
** After being flat-out rejected, Dracone, still wanting to do good to atone for his past misdeeds, ends up joining a more "pragmatic" team of government-run superheroes that could care less about his background as long as he pulls his weight. Using his powers and valuable supervillain knowledge, they end up simultaneously stopping crime and discrediting Hiro and his team in the process. Dracone outright spells it out to an infuriated Hiro once the latter confronts him that he wouldn't have wound up where he was if they had just given him a chance.
** Dracone ends up not having any trust for his teammates when they still don't trust him after a disproportionate amount of time.

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** Dracone flat-out quits fighting alongside Hiro and the others after much mistreatment, but instead of rejoining the bad guys side like they expected, he simply bails for parts unknown in the hopes of a quiet life. Hiro and the others could care less since they still got him out of their sight... only to have an OhCrap moment when they realize that they just drove away their one source of vital intel and connections into the organization that he used to work for.
** After being flat-out rejected, Dracone, still wanting to do good to atone for his past misdeeds, ends up joining a more "pragmatic" team of government-run superheroes that could care less about his background as long as he pulls his weight. Using his powers and valuable supervillain knowledge, they end up simultaneously stopping crime and discrediting clashing with Hiro and his team in the process. Dracone outright spells it out to an infuriated Hiro once the latter confronts him that he wouldn't have wound up where he was if they had just given him a chance.
chance, now he's doing good like he wanted to from the start and causing them problems at the same time.
** Dracone ends up not having any trust for his teammates when they still don't trust him after a disproportionate amount of time. Thus, when a situation crops up where he's required to trust them in order to succeed, he's too worried they'll screw ''him'' over to go through with it.

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** Tensions come to a head when, over a perceived crime, Hiro and the other team members try to violently apprehend Dracone despite having zero proof of any wrongdoing, solely on principle on that the former villain "obviously had something to do with it". They are promptly reminded the hard way that, for all his attempts to turn over a new leaf and do good, it doesn't change the fact that he used to be their Archnemesis for a ''very'' good reason when he turns out to be almost evenly matched with them. The resulting fight totals the surrounding area, leaves most of the team either too injured to stand or keep fighting, and an otherwise winded Dracone escaping to clear his name. The heroes are then chastised for wasting time aimlessly blaming an atoning villain instead of doing actual research, while Dracone himself is soon publicly praised for solving the crime himself.



** When the rest of the team is falsely incriminated as a part of a dangerous crime, Dracone makes sure to hold it over their heads as they're all being interrogated by outside forces.

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** When the rest of the team is falsely incriminated as a part of a dangerous crime, conspiracy, Dracone makes sure to hold it over their heads as they're all being interrogated by outside forces.



** Hiro and the others refuse to give Dracone any sort of credit and repeatedly make it clear that they could care less about whether his reformation attempts are genuine or not, they just want him to go away. The general public on the other hand, feels the opposite due to just how frequent, thorough, and diligent his acts of heroism are. [[WhatTheHellHero Both Dracone and the public never miss a chance to point this out to them]], much to their frustration.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Dracone is turned down because the maximum number of heroes has been reached at the moment, and has to stick to his current job as a PunchClockVillain.

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** Hiro and the others refuse to give Dracone any sort of credit and repeatedly make it clear that they could care less about whether his reformation attempts are genuine or not, they just want him to go away. The general public on the other hand, feels the opposite due to just how frequent, thorough, and diligent his acts of heroism are. [[WhatTheHellHero Both Dracone and the public never miss a chance to point this out to them]], much to their frustration.
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Dracone is turned down because the maximum number of heroes has been reached at the moment, and has to stick to his current job as a PunchClockVillain.PunchClockVillain.
** Dracone reaches MartyStu levels of competence as a hero, proving to be better at it than Hiro and his team combined, and everyone outside it never stops reminding them. TheLancer even even snarkly remarks that "I liked him better when he was trying to kill us."



** Dracone has had a change of heart and decides to begin his RedemptionQuest by helping the heroes, who were disgusted when they heard about this: the more Dracone always tries to help them, the more vehement they become and decided to [[HeelFaceDoorSlam mercilessly kill him]].

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** Dracone has had a change of heart and decides to begin his RedemptionQuest by helping the heroes, who were disgusted when they heard about this: the more Dracone always tries to help them, the more vehement they become and decided to [[HeelFaceDoorSlam mercilessly kill him]]. Unfortunately for them, this doesn't go unnoticed.

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** Dracone ends up not having any trust for his teammates when they still don't trust him after a disproportionate amount of time.



** When the rest of the team is falsely incriminated as a part of a dangerous crime, Dracone makes sure to hold it over their heads as they're all being interrogated by outside forces.



** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground was recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. After Dracone is carried to the emergency room [[KarmicJackpot by the people he managed to save]], he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted.

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** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground and crying for help was witnessed by a number of civilians and recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. After Dracone is carried to the emergency room [[KarmicJackpot by the people he managed to save]], he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted.


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** While they're adamant on wanting him gone from the team, Dracone has to remind them that, due to their corperate sponsors ''requiring'' them to have an atoning villain like him on their team, they really have no choice but to suck it up and tolerate his "unbearable" presence while he works to improve his reputation.
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** After being flat-out rejected, Dracone, still wanting to do good to atone for his past misdeeds, ends up joining a more "pragmatic" team of government-run superheroes that could care less about his background as long as he pulls his weight. Using his powers and valuable supervillain knowledge, they end up simultaneously stopping crime and discrediting Hiro and his team in the process. Dracone outright spells it out to an infuriated Hiro once the latter confronts him that he wouldn't have wound up where he was if they had just given him a chance.
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** But then this made the heroes [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer pariahs]] to all of the citizens, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the criminals]]; now, they [[LaserGuidedKarma know what it's like to never be forgiven for their mistakes]].

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** But then this Driving an atoning villain to suicide and feeling "vindicated" in doing so made the heroes [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer pariahs]] to all of the citizens, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the criminals]]; now, they [[LaserGuidedKarma know what it's like to never be forgiven for their mistakes]].

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** Whenever he acts the slightest bit shady, or when something goes wrong that even slightly points to Dracone or his former villain organization, they immediately suspect him of misconduct and put him under forced detainment. After the first few times it happens, even Dracone himself admits it's getting real old, real fast and gives them a collective WhatTheHellHero speech.
** Dracone flat-out quits fighting alongside Hiro and the others after much mistreatment, but instead of rejoining the bad guys side like they expected, he simply bails for parts unknown in the hopes of a quiet life. Hiro and the others could care less since they still got him out of their sight... only to have an OhCrap moment when they realize that they just drove away their one source of vital intel into the organization that he used to work for.



** Before leaving to parts unknown, Dracone leaves all his knowledge on his former organization on one extensive data chip, along with a heartfelt goodbye and an apology that things didn't work out between them. Hiro and the other heroes have a collective MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment and wished they had the chance to thank him before he left.



** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground was recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. After Dracone is carried to the emergency room by the people he managed to save, he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted.

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** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground was recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. After Dracone is carried to the emergency room [[KarmicJackpot by the people he managed to save, save]], he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted.
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** Their apathetic reaction to Dracone's assistance, letting him get heavily injured in their fight, and bailing on him when he was lying helpless on the ground was recorded on camera. Not only does this convince the horrified public that the former villain has (or is at least making a genuine effort to be) reformed and lands him sympathy points, but that the heroes aren't as nice as they seemed to be if they outright left him for dead. After Dracone is carried to the emergency room by the people he managed to save, he sees on TV that their reputation has plummeted.


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** Hiro and the others refuse to give Dracone any sort of credit and repeatedly make it clear that they could care less about whether his reformation attempts are genuine or not, they just want him to go away. The general public on the other hand, feels the opposite due to just how frequent, thorough, and diligent his acts of heroism are. [[WhatTheHellHero Both Dracone and the public never miss a chance to point this out to them]], much to their frustration.
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** Turns out, forgiving someone with whom you've been fighting for years is ''hard'', even in a mundane context.
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** Dracone has crossed the MoralEventHorizon and everyone considers him to be irredeemably evil.

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** Dracone has crossed the MoralEventHorizon and everyone considers him to be irredeemably evil.BeyondRedemption.

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Dracone is turned down because the maximum number of heroes has been reached at the moment, and has to stick to his current job as a PunchClockVillain.



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** [[BeAllMySinsRemembered Dracone doesn't believe he is worthy of forgiveness in the first place]].

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