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** Lady Alice's support for and control over Bob's campaign for the throne fluctuate.
** Lady Alice promotes Bob's candidacy for the throne, then backs Lord Charlie when he challenges Bob; then she backs Bob again in his bid to oust Charlie.

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** Lady Alice's support for and control over Bob's campaign for the throne fluctuate.
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fluctuate. Lady Alice promotes Bob's candidacy for the throne, then backs Lord Charlie when he challenges Bob; then she backs Bob again in his bid to oust Charlie.



* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Lady Alice is scheming to get her son on the throne, and he believes she will succeed, one way or another. However, Bob would be a terrible ruler, so Charlie kills Bob. With him dead, Lady Alice will get her younger, more competent son David made king.

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* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Lady Alice is scheming to get her son Bob on the throne, and he believes she will succeed, one way or another. However, [[TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone Bob would be a terrible ruler, ruler]], so Charlie kills Bob. With him dead, Lady Alice will get make her younger, more competent son David made king.



* '''Discussed''': "Charlie, stop. I ''don't'' want Bob to be king. [[PrestigePeril Do you have any idea what the life expectancy for kings is?]] I don't want that for my son."

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* '''Discussed''': "Charlie, stop. I ''don't'' want Bob to be king. [[PrestigePeril Do you have any idea what the life expectancy for kings is?]] I don't want that for my son."???



* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it never occurring to her]] that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than she and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. King Bob realizes this before she does, and uses his new power to [[TheExile exile]]--or perhaps even [[SelfMadeOrphan execute]]--his mother.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it never occurring to her]] that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than she and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. King Bob realizes this before she does, and uses his new power to [[TheExile exile]]--or perhaps even [[SelfMadeOrphan execute]]--his mother.mother.
** Alice gets her son Bob made king. Once he's king, he gets [[PrestigePeril assassinated by a powerful rival]]. Alice is stricken with grief and guilt for putting him in that situation.

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* '''Defied''':
** Bob says, "Mother, you have ''got'' to stop this scheming: I ''don't want'' to be king."
** Lady Alice gets caught and executed for treason.

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* '''Defied''':
** Bob says, "Mother, you have ''got'' to stop this scheming: I ''don't want'' to be king."
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'''Defied''': Lady Alice gets caught and executed for treason.

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* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Lady Alice is scheming to get her son on the throne, and he believes she will succeed, one way or another. However, Bob would be a terrible ruler, so Charlie kills Bob; with him dead, Lady Alice will get her younger, more competent son David made king.

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* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Lady Alice is scheming to get her son on the throne, and he believes she will succeed, one way or another. However, Bob would be a terrible ruler, so Charlie kills Bob; with Bob. With him dead, Lady Alice will get her younger, more competent son David made king.



* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it never occurring to her]] that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than she and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. King Bob realizes this before she does and uses his new power to [[TheExile exile]], or perhaps even [[SelfMadeOrphan execute]], his mother.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it never occurring to her]] that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than she and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. King Bob realizes this before she does does, and uses his new power to [[TheExile exile]], or exile]]--or perhaps even [[SelfMadeOrphan execute]], his execute]]--his mother.

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* '''{{Gender Inverted|Trope}}''': Lord Bob schemes to make his daughter, Princess Alice, queen regnant.

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* '''{{Gender Inverted|Trope}}''': Lord Bob schemes to make his daughter, Princess Alice, queen regnant.queen.



** Alice schemes to make Bob the PuppetKing or get him some other position with AuthorityInNameOnly, if that.

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** Alice schemes to make put Bob the PuppetKing or get him some other in a position with no more than AuthorityInNameOnly, if that.such as PuppetKing.



* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it never occurring to her]] that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than she and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. King Bob uses his new power to [[TheExile exile]], or perhaps even [[SelfMadeOrphan execute]], his mother.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it never occurring to her]] that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than she and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. King Bob realizes this before she does and uses his new power to [[TheExile exile]], or perhaps even [[SelfMadeOrphan execute]], his mother.



* '''Played for Laughs''': Lady Alice is no less a nagging mother to Bob once he's king than she was before.



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** Lord Bob's scheming makes his mother, Lady Alice, queen.



* '''Invoked''': When Bob decides to usurp the throne, the first thing he does it ask his mother for help.

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* '''Invoked''': When Bob decides to usurp the throne, the his first thing he does it action is to ask his mother for help.



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* '''Reconstructed''': ???King Bob then thinks "MyGodWhatHaveIDone", especially after he realizes Lady Alice had insight on one or more crucial matters he doesn't but to which he must attend. He releases Alice (if he imprisoned her) or [[BackFromTheDead resurrects her]] (if he executed her) and makes her a royal adviser.

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** Bob doesn't become king for any reason.



* '''Implied''': We never meet Lady Alice or Prince Bob, but during a SuccessionCrisis, he's mentioned as a possible heir, and someone remarks, "His mother is ambitious."

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* '''Implied''': We never meet Lady Alice or Prince Bob, but during a SuccessionCrisis, he's mentioned as a possible heir, heir and someone remarks, "His mother is ambitious."



* '''Played for Drama''': King Bob feels [[TheChainsOfCommanding burdened by his new responsibilities]] and angsts about not having wanted nor even worked for them or the position that carries them.



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** Alice, as a woman in a patriarchal realm, cannot wield power in her own name, [[TheManBehindTheMan but she can do so in her son's name]].

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** Alice, as a woman in a [[NoWomansLand patriarchal realm, realm]], cannot wield power in her own name, [[TheManBehindTheMan but she can do so in her son's name]].



** Lady Alice's support for and control over Bob's campaign for the throne fluctuates.

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** Lady Alice's support for and control over Bob's campaign for the throne fluctuates.fluctuate.
** Lady Alice promotes Bob's candidacy for the throne, then backs Lord Charlie when he challenges Bob; then she backs Bob again in his bid to oust Charlie.



** Bob is a SelfMadeMan, and came to power purely by his own doing.

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** Bob is Bob, a SelfMadeMan, and came to power purely by his own doing.

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* '''Downplayed''': Lady Alice is a supporter of her son's claim, and she talks a few people into supporting him, but she doesn't singlehandedly get him on the throne.

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* '''Downplayed''': Lady Alice is a key supporter of her son's claim, and she talks a few people into supporting him, but she doesn't singlehandedly get him on the throne.



** Alice, as a woman, cannot wield power in her own name, but she can in her son's.
** Being the king's mother is a powerful position in its own right--for example, Alice and Bob live in the Ottoman Empire, and as the mother of the sultan, Alice will be the ''valide sultan'': effectively his queen, and the most powerful woman in the empire.

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** Alice, as a woman, woman in a patriarchal realm, cannot wield power in her own name, [[TheManBehindTheMan but she can do so in her son's.
son's name]].
** Being the king's mother is a powerful position in its own right--for example, Alice and Bob AliceAndBob live in the Ottoman Empire, and as the mother of the sultan, Alice will be the ''valide sultan'': effectively his queen, and the most powerful woman in the empire.



** Lady Alice schemes to ''prevent'' her some from becoming king.

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** Lady Alice schemes to ''prevent'' her some son from becoming king.



* '''{{Gender Inverted|Trope}}''': Lord Bob schemes to make his daughter queen.
* '''Subverted''': Lady Alice is scheming around court, talking up her son Bob to various powerful people. The camera always cuts away right as these conversations get to the chase, but we know Alice is ambitious. At the end of the episode, it's revealed that she's wants to make her son… a general.

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* '''{{Gender Inverted|Trope}}''': Lord Bob schemes to make his daughter queen.
daughter, Princess Alice, queen regnant.
* '''Subverted''': Lady Alice is scheming around court, talking up her son Bob to various powerful people. The camera always cuts away right as these conversations get to the chase, but we know Alice is ambitious. At the end of the episode, it's revealed that she's wants to make her son… son … a general.



* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': KingBobTheNth has a MultipleChoicePast. Some versions have his mother helping him accend to the throne, others don't.

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* '''Parodied''': ???
'''Parodied''':
** Alice schemes to make Bob the PuppetKing or get him some other position with AuthorityInNameOnly, if that.
** Bob is completely indifferent to the prospect of becoming king. It's all Alice's idea and handiwork.
* '''Zig Zagged''': '''Zig-Zagged''':
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KingBobTheNth has a MultipleChoicePast. Some versions have his mother helping him accend ascend to the throne, others don't.don't.
** Lady Alice's support for and control over Bob's campaign for the throne fluctuates.



* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Lady Alice is scheming to get her son on the throne, and he believes she will succeed, one way or another. However, Bob would be a terrible ruler, so Charlie kills Bob--with him dead, Lady Alice will get her younger, more competent son David made king.

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* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Lady Alice is scheming to get her son on the throne, and he believes she will succeed, one way or another. However, Bob would be a terrible ruler, so Charlie kills Bob--with Bob; with him dead, Lady Alice will get her younger, more competent son David made king.



** Bob says, "Mama, you've ''got'' to stop this scheming: I ''don't want'' to be king."
** Lady Alice gets caught, and executed for treason.

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** Bob says, "Mama, you've "Mother, you have ''got'' to stop this scheming: I ''don't want'' to be king."
** Lady Alice gets caught, caught and executed for treason.



* '''Discussed''': "Charlie, stop. I ''don't'' want Bob to be king. [[PrestigePeril Do you have any idea what the life-expectancy for kings is?]] I don't want that for my son."

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* '''Discussed''': "Charlie, stop. I ''don't'' want Bob to be king. [[PrestigePeril Do you have any idea what the life-expectancy life expectancy for kings is?]] I don't want that for my son."



* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do, and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, and didn't think about the fact that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than her, and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. Bob uses his new power to [[TheExile exile]], or perhaps even [[SelfMadeOrphan execute]], his mother.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do, do and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, and didn't think about the fact [[DidntThinkThisThrough it never occurring to her]] that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than her, she and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. King Bob uses his new power to [[TheExile exile]], or perhaps even [[SelfMadeOrphan execute]], his mother.



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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???KingBobTheNth has a MultipleChoicePast. Some versions have his mother helping him accend to the throne, others don't.
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* '''Enforced''': ???

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* '''Enforced''': ???The story is HistoricalFiction, based on a piece of history where this really happened.
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** Charlie doesn't want Bob to come to power. To prevent this, Charlie assassinates not Bob, but Alice.

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** Charlie doesn't want Bob to come to power. To prevent this, Charlie assassinates not Bob, but Alice.Lady Alice gets caught, and executed for treason.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do, and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, and didn't think about the fact that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than her, and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. Bob uses his new power to [[SelfMadeOrphan have his mother executed]].

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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do, and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, and didn't think about the fact that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than her, and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. Bob uses his new power to [[TheExile exile]], or perhaps even [[SelfMadeOrphan have execute]], his mother executed]].mother.
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* '''Subverted''': Lady Alice is scheming around court, talking up her son Bob to various powerful people. She's wants to make him… a general.

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* '''Subverted''': Lady Alice is scheming around court, talking up her son Bob to various powerful people. She's The camera always cuts away right as these conversations get to the chase, but we know Alice is ambitious. At the end of the episode, it's revealed that she's wants to make him… her son… a general.



* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do, and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, and didn't think about the fact that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than her, and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. Bob uses his new power to [[SelfMadeOrphan have his mother killed]].

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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do, and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only ever thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, and didn't think about the fact that after ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than her, and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. Bob uses his new power to [[SelfMadeOrphan have his mother killed]].executed]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do, and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, and didn't think about the fact that after ''he' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than her, and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. Bob uses his new power to [[SelfMadeOrphan have his mother killed]].

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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, Alice tells him everything he should do, and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, and didn't think about the fact that after ''he' ''he'' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than her, and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. Bob uses his new power to [[SelfMadeOrphan have his mother killed]].
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** Alice is a {{good parent|s}}, and she's very supportive of her son in ''everything'' he does, including, but not limited to, coming to power.

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** Alice is a {{good parent|s}}, and she's very supportive of her son in ''everything'' he does, including, but including--but not limited to, coming to--coming to power.



** Bob is a SelfMadeMan.
** Bob is ConvenientlyAnOrphan.

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** Bob is ConvenientlyAnOrphan, with no mother to help him rise to power.
** Bob is a SelfMadeMan.
** Bob is ConvenientlyAnOrphan.
SelfMadeMan, and came to power purely by his own doing.



* '''Discussed''': "Charlie, stop, I ''don't'' want Bob to be king. [[PrestigePeril Do you have any idea what the life-expectancy for kings is?]] I don't want that for my son."

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* '''Discussed''': "Charlie, stop, stop. I ''don't'' want Bob to be king. [[PrestigePeril Do you have any idea what the life-expectancy for kings is?]] I don't want that for my son."



* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, pushing him very hard to be king, even though Bob isn't interested. The kingdom falls apart unde Bob's leadership, and Alice ruins her relationship with her son.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, pushing him very hard to be and she put a lot of pressure on him. As a result, they have a strained relationship. After Bob becomes king, even though Bob isn't interested. The kingdom falls apart unde Bob's leadership, and Alice ruins her relationship with her son.tells him everything he should do, and puts more pressure on him than ever. She only thought of his kingship as ''her'' means of rule, and didn't think about the fact that after ''he' became king, ''he'' would suddenly have more power than her, and he wouldn't ''have'' to obey her. Bob uses his new power to [[SelfMadeOrphan have his mother killed]].

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* '''Inverted''': Lady Alice schemes to ''prevent'' her some from becoming king.

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* '''Inverted''': Lady '''Inverted''':
**Lady
Alice schemes to ''prevent'' her some from becoming king.king.
**After a RulingFamilyMassacre, the only survivor, young Prince Bob, is made king. Lady Alice then adopts him.
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** Alice is a {{good parent|s}}, and she's very supportive of her son in ''everything'' he does.

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** Alice is a {{good parent|s}}, and she's very supportive of her son in ''everything'' he does.does, including, but not limited to, coming to power.



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* '''Implied''': We never meet Lady Alice or Prince Bob, but during a SuccessionCrisis, he's mentioned as a possible heir, and someone remarks that "his mother is ambitious."

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* '''Implied''': We never meet Lady Alice or Prince Bob, but during a SuccessionCrisis, he's mentioned as a possible heir, and someone remarks that "his remarks, "His mother is ambitious."



* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, pushing him very hard to be king, even though Bob isn't interested in beginning king. The kingdom falls apart unde Bob's leadership, and Alice ruins her relationship with her son.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, pushing him very hard to be king, even though Bob isn't interested in beginning king.interested. The kingdom falls apart unde Bob's leadership, and Alice ruins her relationship with her son.

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* '''Double Subverted''': That's phase one of her plan. Once Bob has more experience, ''then'' she'll make him king.

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* '''Double Subverted''': That's just phase one ''one'' of her plan. Once Bob has more experience, ''then'' she'll make him king.



* '''Averted''': Bob is a SelfMadeMan.

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* '''Averted''': Bob '''Averted''':
**Bob
is a SelfMadeMan.SelfMadeMan.
**Bob is ConvenientlyAnOrphan.
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* '''Deconstructed''': ???

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* '''Deconstructed''': ???Lady Alice is a StageMom to Bob, pushing him very hard to be king, even though Bob isn't interested in beginning king. The kingdom falls apart unde Bob's leadership, and Alice ruins her relationship with her son.
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'''Basic Trope''': Someone comes to a position of power because of their mother's efforts.
* '''Straight''': Lady Alice's scheming gets her son Prince Bob on the throne.
* '''Exaggerated''': Lady Alice murders a dozen people to get her son Prince Bob on the throne.
* '''Downplayed''': Lady Alice is a supporter of her son's claim, and she talks a few people into supporting him, but she doesn't singlehandedly get him on the throne.
* '''Justified''':
**Alice, as a woman, cannot wield power in her own name, but she can in her son's.
**Being the king's mother is a powerful position in its own right--for example, Alice and Bob live in the Ottoman Empire, and as the mother of the sultan, Alice will be the ''valide sultan'': effectively his queen, and the most powerful woman in the empire.
**Alice is a {{good parent|s}}, and she's very supportive of her son in ''everything'' he does.
*'''Inverted''': Lady Alice schemes to ''prevent'' her some from becoming king.
*'''{{Gender Inverted|Trope}}''': Lord Bob schemes to make his daughter queen.
* '''Subverted''': Lady Alice is scheming around court, talking up her son Bob to various powerful people. She's wants to make him… a general.
* '''Double Subverted''': That's phase one of her plan. Once Bob has more experience, ''then'' she'll make him king.
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': Bob is a SelfMadeMan.
* '''Enforced''': ???
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Alice, this plan to make Bob king--is it for him, or is it for yourself?"
* '''Invoked''': When Bob decides to usurp the throne, the first thing he does it ask his mother for help.
* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Lady Alice is scheming to get her son on the throne, and he believes she will succeed, one way or another. However, Bob would be a terrible ruler, so Charlie kills Bob--with him dead, Lady Alice will get her younger, more competent son David made king.
* '''Defied''':
**Bob says, "Mama, you've ''got'' to stop this scheming: I ''don't want'' to be king."
**Charlie doesn't want Bob to come to power. To prevent this, Charlie assassinates not Bob, but Alice.
* '''Implied''': We never meet Lady Alice or Prince Bob, but during a SuccessionCrisis, he's mentioned as a possible heir, and someone remarks that "his mother is ambitious."
* '''Discussed''': "Charlie, stop, I ''don't'' want Bob to be king. [[PrestigePeril Do you have any idea what the life-expectancy for kings is?]] I don't want that for my son."
* '''Conversed''': "That's Bob's mom, Lady Alice. She wants him to be the next king." "Of course she does."
* '''Deconstructed''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': ???
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