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--> '''Claidheamh''': Funny that ya say that, Bob. I've been goin' on me own [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures too]]; Seems like ya've been through hell. So was I, ya know? I honestly believe that [[VillainRespect yer finally deservin' of some respect]], even after all the shite we put each other through. Then again, yer takin' that from me; Someone who's pretty reviled himself. Although, I'm definitely sure I've been through worse than ya; Evulz, Enhditall? Bloody fuckin' amateurs in comparison tae the gods I've picked a fight with, an' ''felled''. Wanna hear their names? [[JustForFun/TvTropesWillRuinYourLife T'Veah]] [[EldritchAbomination Tir'opius]], and [[JustForFun/TropeTan Troperia]] herself. Enhditall and Evulz are outright nothin' tae me. But don't let this fight be one of malice, or hatred; This fight will be of respect, and love. Ya've gone through too much shite tae be belittled by the man ya hate most, Bob; We shall fight each other, ''AS WARRIORS!'' Come, take up arms, Bob! '''''[[PreAssKickingOneLiner LET'S FINISH THIS, ONCE AN' FOR ALL!!!]]'''''

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--> '''Claidheamh''': Funny that ya say that, Bob. I've been goin' on me own [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures too]]; Seems like ya've been through hell. So was I, ya know? I honestly believe that [[VillainRespect yer finally deservin' of some respect]], even after all the shite we put each other through. Then again, yer takin' that from me; Someone who's pretty reviled himself. Although, I'm definitely sure I've been through worse than ya; Evulz, Enhditall? Bloody fuckin' amateurs in comparison tae the gods I've picked a fight with, an' ''felled''. Wanna hear their names? [[JustForFun/TvTropesWillRuinYourLife T'Veah]] [[EldritchAbomination Tir'opius]], and [[JustForFun/TropeTan Troperia]] herself. Enhditall and Evulz are outright nothin' tae me. Sure, it might not please ya, Bob, but ya've probably gone down the easier road. But don't consider yerself any lesser than me, I know yer capable of so much more. So let this fight not be one of malice, or hatred; This fight will be of respect, and love. Ya've gone through too much shite tae be belittled by the man ya hate most, Bob; We shall fight each other, ''AS WARRIORS!'' Come, take up arms, Bob! '''''[[PreAssKickingOneLiner LET'S FINISH THIS, ONCE AN' FOR ALL!!!]]'''''
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* '''Straight''': Heroes of Troperia has a 'Very Hard' difficulty, which is harder than the 'Hard' difficulty

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* '''Straight''': Heroes ''Tales of Troperia Troperia'' has a 'Very Hard' difficulty, which is harder than the 'Hard' difficulty



** Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including '[[HarderThanHard Very Hard]]', '[[FakeDifficulty Expert]]','[[LowLevelRun Insane]]', '[[AllDeathsFinal Extreme]]', '[[OneHitPointWonder Impossible]]', '[[{{Permadeath}} Ultimate Impossible]]', [[DeletionAsPunishment Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)]]' and '[[UnwinnableByDesign Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+]]'.

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** Heroes ''Tales of Troperia Troperia'' has several difficulty levels above Hard including '[[HarderThanHard Very Hard]]', '[[FakeDifficulty Expert]]','[[LowLevelRun Insane]]', '[[AllDeathsFinal Extreme]]', '[[OneHitPointWonder Impossible]]', '[[{{Permadeath}} Ultimate Impossible]]', [[DeletionAsPunishment Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)]]' and '[[UnwinnableByDesign Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+]]'.



* '''Downplayed''': ''Heroes of Troperia'' has a 'Very Hard' setting, but it's actually not much more difficult than the already challenging Hard mode.

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* '''Downplayed''': ''Heroes ''Tales of Troperia'' has a 'Very Hard' setting, but it's actually not much more difficult than the already challenging Hard mode.



** The harder difficulty options allow ''Heroes of Troperia'' to retain its challenge on NewGamePlus, and each of them require you to complete the game on the previous difficulty to unlock them to extend the total gameplay hours.

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** The harder difficulty options allow ''Heroes ''Tales of Troperia'' to retain its challenge on NewGamePlus, and each of them require you to complete the game on the previous difficulty to unlock them to extend the total gameplay hours.



** The TrueFinalBoss can only be fought on Very Hard and above, and has 4 forms on Very Hard. Each difficulty above Very Hard adds an additional form, clocking in at ''11 forms'' if you fight them on Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+. A truly dedicated player will play on each difficulty just to see and fight each form for themselves, greatly increasing the game's replay value and the promise of an OldSaveBonus once they start up an New Game on Heroes of Troperia II.

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** The TrueFinalBoss can only be fought on Very Hard and above, and has 4 forms on Very Hard. Each difficulty above Very Hard adds an additional form, clocking in at ''11 forms'' if you fight them on Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+. A truly dedicated player will play on each difficulty just to see and fight each form for themselves, greatly increasing the game's replay value and the promise of an OldSaveBonus once they start up an New Game on Heroes Tales of Troperia II.



* '''Subverted''': Heroes of Troperia has Normal, Hard, and Very Hard, but Hard is considered the main difficulty, as Normal contains EasyModeMockery.

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* '''Subverted''': Heroes Tales of Troperia has Normal, Hard, and Very Hard, but Hard is considered the main difficulty, as Normal contains EasyModeMockery.



* '''Parodied''': Heroes of Troperia has a secret 'Impossible' difficulty that [[PressStartToGameOver kills you right at the beginning]].

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* '''Parodied''': Heroes Tales of Troperia has a secret 'Impossible' difficulty that [[PressStartToGameOver kills you right at the beginning]].



** Heroes of Troperia ended up getting an UpdatedRerelease which adds several new difficulty modes in order to increase the replay value of the game.

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** Heroes Tales of Troperia ended up getting an UpdatedRerelease which adds several new difficulty modes in order to increase the replay value of the game.



** Remakes of ''Heroes of Troperia'' simply rebalance the difficulties instead of adding new ones. As a result, the game's difficulties are now EasierThanEasy, Normal and HarderThanHard respectively.

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** Remakes of ''Heroes ''Tales of Troperia'' simply rebalance the difficulties instead of adding new ones. As a result, the game's difficulties are now EasierThanEasy, Normal and HarderThanHard respectively.
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--> '''Claidheamh''': Funny that ya say that, Bob. I've been goin' on me own [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures too]]; Seems like ya've been through hell. So was I, ya know? I honestly believe that [[VillainRespect yer finally deservin' of some respect]], even after all the shite we put each other through. Then again, yer takin' that from me; Someone who's pretty reviled himself. Although, I'm definitely sure I've been through worse than ya; Evulz, Enhditall? Bloody fuckin' amateurs in comparison tae the gods I've picked a fight with, an' ''felled''. Wanna hear their names? [[JustForFun/TvTropesWillRuinYourLife T'Veah]] [[EldritchAbomination Tir'opius]], and [[JustForFun/TropeTan Troperia]] herself. Enhditall and Evulz are outright nothin' tae me. But don't let this fight be one of malice, or hatred; This fight will be of respect, and love. Ya've gone through too much shite tae be belittled by the man ya hate most, Bob; We shall fight each other, ''AS WARRIORS!'' Come, take up arms, Bob! '''''[[PreAssKickingOneLiner lET'S FINISH THIS, ONCE AN' FOR ALL!!!]]'''''

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--> '''Claidheamh''': Funny that ya say that, Bob. I've been goin' on me own [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures too]]; Seems like ya've been through hell. So was I, ya know? I honestly believe that [[VillainRespect yer finally deservin' of some respect]], even after all the shite we put each other through. Then again, yer takin' that from me; Someone who's pretty reviled himself. Although, I'm definitely sure I've been through worse than ya; Evulz, Enhditall? Bloody fuckin' amateurs in comparison tae the gods I've picked a fight with, an' ''felled''. Wanna hear their names? [[JustForFun/TvTropesWillRuinYourLife T'Veah]] [[EldritchAbomination Tir'opius]], and [[JustForFun/TropeTan Troperia]] herself. Enhditall and Evulz are outright nothin' tae me. But don't let this fight be one of malice, or hatred; This fight will be of respect, and love. Ya've gone through too much shite tae be belittled by the man ya hate most, Bob; We shall fight each other, ''AS WARRIORS!'' Come, take up arms, Bob! '''''[[PreAssKickingOneLiner lET'S LET'S FINISH THIS, ONCE AN' FOR ALL!!!]]'''''
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--> '''Claidheamh''': Funny that ya say that, Bob. I've been goin' on me own [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures too]]; Seems like ya've been through hell. So was I, ya know? I honestly believe that [[VillainRespect yer finally deservin' of some respect]], even after all the shite we put each other through. Then again, yer takin' that from me; Someone who's pretty reviled himself. Although, I'm definitely sure I've been through worse than ya; Evulz, Enhditall? Bloody fuckin' amateurs in comparison tae the gods I've picked a fight with, an' ''felled''. Wanna hear their names? [[JustForFun/TvTropes T'Veah]] [[EldritchAbomination Tir'opius]], and [[JustForFun/TropeTan Troperia]] herself. Enhditall and Evulz are outright nothin' tae me. But don't let this fight be one of malice, or hatred; This fight will be of respect, and love. Ya've gone through too much shite tae be belittled by the man ya hate most, Bob; We shall fight each other, ''AS WARRIORS!'' Come, take up arms, Bob! '''''[[PreAssKickingOneLiner lET'S FINISH THIS, ONCE AN' FOR ALL!!!]]'''''

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--> '''Claidheamh''': Funny that ya say that, Bob. I've been goin' on me own [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures too]]; Seems like ya've been through hell. So was I, ya know? I honestly believe that [[VillainRespect yer finally deservin' of some respect]], even after all the shite we put each other through. Then again, yer takin' that from me; Someone who's pretty reviled himself. Although, I'm definitely sure I've been through worse than ya; Evulz, Enhditall? Bloody fuckin' amateurs in comparison tae the gods I've picked a fight with, an' ''felled''. Wanna hear their names? [[JustForFun/TvTropes [[JustForFun/TvTropesWillRuinYourLife T'Veah]] [[EldritchAbomination Tir'opius]], and [[JustForFun/TropeTan Troperia]] herself. Enhditall and Evulz are outright nothin' tae me. But don't let this fight be one of malice, or hatred; This fight will be of respect, and love. Ya've gone through too much shite tae be belittled by the man ya hate most, Bob; We shall fight each other, ''AS WARRIORS!'' Come, take up arms, Bob! '''''[[PreAssKickingOneLiner lET'S FINISH THIS, ONCE AN' FOR ALL!!!]]'''''
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--> '''Claidheamh''': Funny that ya say that, Bob. I've been goin' on me own [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures too]]; Seems like ya've been through hell. So was I, ya know? I honestly believe that [[VillainRespect yer finally deservin' of some respect]], even after all the shite we put each other through. Then again, yer takin' that from me; Someone who's pretty reviled himself. Although, I'm definitely sure I've been through worse than ya; Evulz, Enhditall? Bloody fuckin' amateurs in comparison tae the gods I've picked a fight with, an' ''felled''. But don't let this fight be one of malice, or hatred; This fight will be of respect, and love. Ya've gone through too much shite tae be belittled by the man ya hate most, Bob; We shall fight each other, ''AS WARRIORS!'' Come, take up arms, Bob! '''''[[PreAssKickingOneLiner lET'S FINISH THIS, ONCE AN' FOR ALL!!!]]'''''

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--> '''Claidheamh''': Funny that ya say that, Bob. I've been goin' on me own [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures too]]; Seems like ya've been through hell. So was I, ya know? I honestly believe that [[VillainRespect yer finally deservin' of some respect]], even after all the shite we put each other through. Then again, yer takin' that from me; Someone who's pretty reviled himself. Although, I'm definitely sure I've been through worse than ya; Evulz, Enhditall? Bloody fuckin' amateurs in comparison tae the gods I've picked a fight with, an' ''felled''. Wanna hear their names? [[JustForFun/TvTropes T'Veah]] [[EldritchAbomination Tir'opius]], and [[JustForFun/TropeTan Troperia]] herself. Enhditall and Evulz are outright nothin' tae me. But don't let this fight be one of malice, or hatred; This fight will be of respect, and love. Ya've gone through too much shite tae be belittled by the man ya hate most, Bob; We shall fight each other, ''AS WARRIORS!'' Come, take up arms, Bob! '''''[[PreAssKickingOneLiner lET'S FINISH THIS, ONCE AN' FOR ALL!!!]]'''''
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--> '''(Ultimate Impossible EX(treme Apocalypse Ω+))'''
--> '''Bob''': I've come this far! Emperor Evulz has fallen, as will you. Nothing can stop me now!
-->'''Enhdithall''': Pathetic. Worthless. Futile. All for naught. Everything you have done and will ever do is nothing more than fleeting, and will soon be forgotten by everyone, if they aren't already destroyed by me. You stand at the end of a long bitter road, one of which worth none of the blood, sweat and tears you shed to get here. No matter what, you can never be satisfied what what you have in your sad, pathetic attempts to imitate the embodiment of perfection that I am. The moment you slayed that emperor yet again, you already sealed your fate. The moment his lifeless body fell to the floor, you had already lost. It is time again, and you will eventually see the futility as you repeat this cycle, ONE. LAST. TIME. NOW DIE, MADDENED SON OF MAN, FOR YOUR TIME SHALL FINALLY COME TO AN END!

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--> '''(Ultimate Impossible EX(treme Apocalypse Ω+))'''
Ω+))''' (Humorously, instead of Enhdithall, it's [[PlayingWith/RivalFinalBoss Claidheamh]]).
--> '''Bob''': I've come this far! Emperor Evulz has fallen, as Enhditall has fallen, and now, you will you. too, Claidheamh. Nothing can stop me now!
-->'''Enhdithall''': Pathetic. Worthless. Futile. All for naught. Everything you have done and will ever do is nothing more
now!
--> '''Claidheamh''': Funny that ya say that, Bob. I've been goin' on me own [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures too]]; Seems like ya've been through hell. So was I, ya know? I honestly believe that [[VillainRespect yer finally deservin' of some respect]], even after all the shite we put each other through. Then again, yer takin' that from me; Someone who's pretty reviled himself. Although, I'm definitely sure I've been through worse
than fleeting, and will soon be forgotten by everyone, if they aren't already destroyed by me. You stand at ya; Evulz, Enhditall? Bloody fuckin' amateurs in comparison tae the end of gods I've picked a long bitter road, fight with, an' ''felled''. But don't let this fight be one of which worth none of the blood, sweat and tears you shed to get here. No matter what, you can never be satisfied what what you have in your sad, pathetic attempts to imitate the embodiment of perfection that I am. The moment you slayed that emperor yet again, you already sealed your fate. The moment his lifeless body fell to the floor, you had already lost. It is time again, and you malice, or hatred; This fight will eventually see be of respect, and love. Ya've gone through too much shite tae be belittled by the futility as you repeat this cycle, ONE. LAST. TIME. NOW DIE, MADDENED SON OF MAN, man ya hate most, Bob; We shall fight each other, ''AS WARRIORS!'' Come, take up arms, Bob! '''''[[PreAssKickingOneLiner lET'S FINISH THIS, ONCE AN' FOR YOUR TIME SHALL FINALLY COME TO AN END!ALL!!!]]'''''
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** "You know what would increase the replay of this game? Harder difficulty levels."


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** Remakes of ''Heroes of Troperia'' simply rebalance the difficulties instead of adding new ones. As a result, the game's difficulties are now EasierThanEasy, Normal and HarderThanHard respectively.
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** The hardest difficulty has you die [[PressStartToGameOver as soon as you start the game.]]
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** The hardest difficulty exists solely to troll players and is impossible to complete.
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--> (Very Hard)

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--> (Very Hard)'''(Very Hard)'''



--> (Expert)

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--> (Expert)'''(Expert)'''



--> (Insane)

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--> (Insane)'''(Insane)'''



--> (Extreme)

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--> (Extreme)'''(Extreme)'''



--> (Impossible)

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--> (Impossible)'''(Impossible)'''



--> (Ultimate Impossible EX(treme))

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--> (Ultimate '''(Ultimate Impossible EX(treme))EX(treme))'''



--> (Ultimate Impossible EX(treme Apocalypse Ω+))

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--> (Ultimate '''(Ultimate Impossible EX(treme Apocalypse Ω+))Ω+))'''
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** "[[VideoGame/{{Gungrave}} How do we convince players to endure the hardest difficulty? Allow them to unlock everything after beating it]] or at least let them [[VideoGame/Franchise/KingdomHearts watch the secret ending.]]

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** "[[VideoGame/{{Gungrave}} How do we convince players to endure the hardest difficulty? Allow them to unlock everything after beating it]] or at least let them [[VideoGame/Franchise/KingdomHearts [[Franchise/KingdomHearts watch the secret ending.]]
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* '''Double Subverted''': However, beating Very Hard unlocks Expert, which '''is''' harder. [[SerialEsclation Completing the current hardest difficultly unlocks a harder one]] until you unlock the TRUE final difficulty Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+.

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* '''Double Subverted''': However, beating Very Hard unlocks Expert, which '''is''' harder. [[SerialEsclation [[SerialEscalation Completing the current hardest difficultly unlocks a harder one]] until you unlock the TRUE final difficulty Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+.

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** The TrueFinalBoss can only be fought on Very Hard and above, and has 4 forms on Very Hard. Each difficulty above Very Hard adds an additional form, clocking in at ''11 forms'' if you fight them on Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+. A truly dedicated player will play on each difficulty just to see and fight each form for themselves, greatly increasing the game's replay value and the promise of an OldSaveBonus once they start up an New Game on Heroes of Troperia II.



* '''Double Subverted''': However, beating Very Hard unlocks Insane, which '''is''' harder.

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* '''Double Subverted''': However, beating Very Hard unlocks Insane, Expert, which '''is''' harder.harder. [[SerialEsclation Completing the current hardest difficultly unlocks a harder one]] until you unlock the TRUE final difficulty Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+.



* '''Zig Zagged''': 'Very Hard' is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Until you come across HardModePerks like extra money, experience, etc. Until you reach ThatOneLevel, which is [[NintendoHard frustrating on any difficulty]]. The boss of that level opens the way to a GameBreaker that makes the rest of the game easy. Until the FinalBoss. Then NewGamePlus is available, which starts out easier than before...but you're roped into Insane mode early into this playthrough.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': 'Very Hard' is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Until you come across HardModePerks like extra money, experience, etc. Until you reach ThatOneLevel, which is [[NintendoHard frustrating on any difficulty]]. The boss of that level opens the way to a GameBreaker that makes the rest of the game easy. Until the FinalBoss. Then NewGamePlus is available, which starts out easier than before...but you're roped into Insane Expert mode early into this playthrough.



* '''Discussed''': "Hard is tough." "This is harder. Good Luck, troper!"

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* '''Discussed''': '''Discussed''':
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"Hard is tough." "This is harder. Good Luck, troper!"troper!"
--> (Very Hard)
--> '''Bob''': I've come this far! Emperor Evulz has fallen, as will you. Nothing can stop me now!
-->'''Enhdithall''': Is that it? Your empty bluster won't save you! I shall crush you and this entire world asunder!
--> (Expert)
--> '''Bob''': I've come this far! Emperor Evulz has fallen, as will you. Nothing can stop me now!
-->'''Enhdithall''': Pathetic creature! You fight against me, the embodiment of perfection! Your empty bluster won't save you! I shall crush you and this entire world asunder!
--> (Insane)
--> '''Bob''': I've come this far! Emperor Evulz has fallen, as will you. Nothing can stop me now!
-->'''Enhdithall''': Pathetic, worthless creature! You fight against me, the embodiment of perfection! Your futile attempts at combat and empty bluster won't save you! I shall destroy you and tear this entire world asunder!
--> (Extreme)
--> '''Bob''': I've come this far! Emperor Evulz has fallen, as will you. Nothing can stop me now!
-->'''Enhdithall''': No matter how many times you continue this folly, I shall tear you and this world apart. [[AGodAmI You are a pathetic, sad little ant that dares to walk towards the blazing sun!]]
--> (Impossible)
--> '''Bob''': I've come this far! Emperor Evulz has fallen, as will you. Nothing can stop me now!
-->'''Enhdithall''': How many times do you intend to continue this pathetic resistance against me? Who do you hope to gain from your repeated attempts at destroying me, the one destined to destroy everything?! You are nothing to me. DIE!
--> (Ultimate Impossible EX(treme))
--> '''Bob''': I've come this far! Emperor Evulz has fallen, as will you. Nothing can stop me now!
-->'''Enhdithall''': Over and over again! I shall destroy your world and all of creation. No matter how you much you try, you will never truly win! You will never be satisfied until you can finally convince yourself that you're anything but a worthless, pathetic failure who cannot avert the inevitable. Time wears everything to dust and I too shall eradicate everything. Death is your only option against me! DIE!
--> (Ultimate Impossible EX(treme Apocalypse Ω+))
--> '''Bob''': I've come this far! Emperor Evulz has fallen, as will you. Nothing can stop me now!
-->'''Enhdithall''': Pathetic. Worthless. Futile. All for naught. Everything you have done and will ever do is nothing more than fleeting, and will soon be forgotten by everyone, if they aren't already destroyed by me. You stand at the end of a long bitter road, one of which worth none of the blood, sweat and tears you shed to get here. No matter what, you can never be satisfied what what you have in your sad, pathetic attempts to imitate the embodiment of perfection that I am. The moment you slayed that emperor yet again, you already sealed your fate. The moment his lifeless body fell to the floor, you had already lost. It is time again, and you will eventually see the futility as you repeat this cycle, ONE. LAST. TIME. NOW DIE, MADDENED SON OF MAN, FOR YOUR TIME SHALL FINALLY COME TO AN END!



* '''Deconstructed''': After defeating Emperor Evulz, Bob feels unchallenged and decides to relive his adventure on a harder difficulty. This GroundhogDayLoop gradually causes Bob to become more and more unhinged as he seeks to relive his adventure, causing him to go insane by the time he's on a Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+ playthrough.
** If you unlock the TrueFinalBoss, their dialogue becomes more and more insulting on harder difficulties. If you beat them on the hardest difficulty, the game will spite you by revealing that the entire game is a ShaggyDogStory and that you've wasted countless hours just to EarnYourBadEnding. Suffice to say, Tales of Troperia becomes infamous in the gaming community for it's spitefulness to players who play on the hardest difficulty.
* '''Reconstructed''': However, it wasn't a complete waste. The player unlocks the final set of concept art and music, and if they start a new game on Tales of Troperia II, they'll be a rewarded with a OldSaveBonus that allows them to ''demolish'' the game with their maxed out character.



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** Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very Hard', 'Expert','Insane', 'Extreme', 'Apocalypse', 'Impossible', 'Ultimate Impossible', Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)' and 'Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+'. The last two deletes your save data upon death and bricks your game copy upon death respectively.

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** Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very Hard', 'Expert','Insane', 'Extreme', 'Apocalypse', 'Impossible', 'Ultimate Impossible', '[[HarderThanHard Very Hard]]', '[[FakeDifficulty Expert]]','[[LowLevelRun Insane]]', '[[AllDeathsFinal Extreme]]', '[[OneHitPointWonder Impossible]]', '[[{{Permadeath}} Ultimate Impossible]]', [[DeletionAsPunishment Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)' EX(treme)]]' and 'Ultimate '[[UnwinnableByDesign Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+'. The last two deletes your save data upon death and bricks your game copy upon death respectively.Ω+]]'.

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** Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very Hard', 'Expert'
,'Insane', 'Extreme', 'Apocalypse', 'Impossible', 'Ultimate Impossible', Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)' and 'Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+'. The last two deletes your save data upon death and bricks your game copy upon death respectively.

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** Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very Hard', 'Expert'
,'Insane',
'Expert','Insane', 'Extreme', 'Apocalypse', 'Impossible', 'Ultimate Impossible', Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)' and 'Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+'. The last two deletes your save data upon death and bricks your game copy upon death respectively.

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* '''Straight''': Heroes of Troperia has a 'Very hard' difficulty, which is harder than the 'Hard' difficulty

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* '''Straight''': Heroes of Troperia has a 'Very hard' Hard' difficulty, which is harder than the 'Hard' difficulty



** Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very hard', 'Insane', and 'Extreme'.

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** Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very hard', 'Insane', Hard', 'Expert'
,'Insane', 'Extreme', 'Apocalypse', 'Impossible', 'Ultimate Impossible', Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)'
and 'Extreme'.'Ultimate Impossible EX(treme)Apocalypse Ω+'. The last two deletes your save data upon death and bricks your game copy upon death respectively.



* '''Downplayed''': Heroes of Troperia has a 'Very Hard' setting, but it's actually not much more difficult than the already challenging Hard mode.
* '''Justified''': The game is [[ItsEasySoItSucks very easy]] on the easier difficulty ratings

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* '''Downplayed''': Heroes ''Heroes of Troperia Troperia'' has a 'Very Hard' setting, but it's actually not much more difficult than the already challenging Hard mode.
* '''Justified''': The game is [[ItsEasySoItSucks very easy]] on the easier difficulty ratingsratings.
** The harder difficulty options allow ''Heroes of Troperia'' to retain its challenge on NewGamePlus, and each of them require you to complete the game on the previous difficulty to unlock them to extend the total gameplay hours.
** The player has an incentive to play on the hardest difficulty because the GoldenEnding is unlocked by simply beating the game whereas you'd have to do a tedious CollectionSidequest and complete the BrutalBonusLevel on the easier difficulties for the same reward.



** Heroes of Troperia ended up getting an UpdatedRerelease which adds several new difficulty modes in order to increase the replay value of the game.



* '''Invoked''': "[[Videogame/CrystalStory This game needs a harder difficulty!]]"

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* '''Invoked''': '''Implied''': The moment the player engages the OpeningBossBattle, they take damage and die before ''immediately'' seeing the Game Over screen. Bob complains that he got killed in the ''tutorial'' fight.
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"[[Videogame/CrystalStory This game needs a harder difficulty!]]"difficulty!]]"
** "[[VideoGame/{{Gungrave}} How do we convince players to endure the hardest difficulty? Allow them to unlock everything after beating it]] or at least let them [[VideoGame/Franchise/KingdomHearts watch the secret ending.]]
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** "Insane is just pummelling us left and right! WhatTheHellPlayer [[BreakingTheFourthWall Why didn't you just pick Hard!?]]

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** "Insane is just pummelling us left and right! WhatTheHellPlayer [[BreakingTheFourthWall Why didn't you just pick Hard!?]]'Hard'!?]]"

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* '''Lampshaded''': "Insane is just pummelling us left and right! WhatTheHellPlayer [[BreakingTheFourthWall Why didn' you just pick Hard!?]]

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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
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"Insane is just pummelling us left and right! WhatTheHellPlayer [[BreakingTheFourthWall Why didn' didn't you just pick Hard!?]]Hard!?]]
** The in-game description for the 'Very Hard' difficulty promotes that it's tailor-made for masochistic players, or players who hate themselves.



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Darker And Edgier and Lighter And Softer aren't difficulty tropes.


** DarkerAndEdgier



** LighterAndSofter
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** Rather than adding in a more difficult difficulty to hard they make the old Hard Medium-Hard and add a new harder Hard.
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* '''Exploited''': The [[HardModePerks extra gold]] allows you to buy DeflectorShields sooner, allowing you to defeat ThatOneBoss ''more easily'' on Very Hard and above by [[HoistByHisOwnPetard defeating it with its own attacks]], thanks to the enemies' increased damage output.

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* '''Exploited''': The [[HardModePerks extra gold]] allows you to buy DeflectorShields sooner, allowing you to defeat ThatOneBoss ''more easily'' ''[[NonIndicativeDifficulty more easily]]'' on Very Hard and above by [[HoistByHisOwnPetard defeating it with its own attacks]], thanks to the enemies' increased damage output.
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I tried not to make that a lampshade.


* '''Discussed''': ???

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* '''Discussed''': ???"Hard is tough." "This is harder. Good Luck, troper!"
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** LighteAndSofter

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** LighteAndSofterLighterAndSofter

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** DarkerAndEdgier



* '''Inverted''': EasierThanEasy

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* '''Inverted''': EasierThanEasy'''Inverted''':
** EasierThanEasy
** LighteAndSofter
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Insane is just pummelling us left and right! WhatTheHellPlayer [[BreakiingTheFourthWall Why didn' you just pick Hard!?]]

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* '''Lampshaded''': "Insane is just pummelling us left and right! WhatTheHellPlayer [[BreakiingTheFourthWall [[BreakingTheFourthWall Why didn' you just pick Hard!?]]
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* '''Downplayed''': Heroes of Troperia has a 'Very Hard' setting, but it's actually not much more difficult that the already challenging Hard mode.

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* '''Downplayed''': Heroes of Troperia has a 'Very Hard' setting, but it's actually not much more difficult that than the already challenging Hard mode.



* '''Exploited''': The [[HardModePerks extra gold]] allows you to buy DeflectorShields sooner, allowing you to defeat ThatOneBoss ''more easily'' on Very Hard and above by [[HoistByHisOwnPetard damaging it with its own attacks]], thanks to the enemies' increased damage output.

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* '''Exploited''': The [[HardModePerks extra gold]] allows you to buy DeflectorShields sooner, allowing you to defeat ThatOneBoss ''more easily'' on Very Hard and above by [[HoistByHisOwnPetard damaging defeating it with its own attacks]], thanks to the enemies' increased damage output.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???

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* '''Lampshaded''': ???"Insane is just pummelling us left and right! WhatTheHellPlayer [[BreakiingTheFourthWall Why didn' you just pick Hard!?]]



* '''Exploited''': ???

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* '''Exploited''': ???The [[HardModePerks extra gold]] allows you to buy DeflectorShields sooner, allowing you to defeat ThatOneBoss ''more easily'' on Very Hard and above by [[HoistByHisOwnPetard damaging it with its own attacks]], thanks to the enemies' increased damage output.



* '''Discussed''':

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* '''Discussed''': ???

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* '''Exaggerated''': Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very hard', 'Insane', and 'Extreme'.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
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Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very hard', 'Insane', and 'Extreme'.'Extreme'.
** The 'Normal' difficuty is already NintendoHard.



* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???'Very Hard' is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Until you come across HardModePerks like extra money, experience, etc. Until you reach ThatOneLevel, which is [[NintendoHard frustrating on any difficulty]]. The boss of that level opens the way to a GameBreaker that makes the rest of the game easy. Until the FinalBoss. Then NewGamePlus is available, which starts out easier than before...but you're roped into Insane mode early into this playthrough.



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* '''Invoked''': ???"[[Videogame/CrystalStory This game needs a harder difficulty!]]"



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* '''Defied''': ???The devs intentionally invert this trope, as the game is already NintendoHard.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very hard' and 'Insane'.
* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Exaggerated''': Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very hard' hard', 'Insane', and 'Insane'.
'Extreme'.
* '''Downplayed''': ???Heroes of Troperia has a 'Very Hard' setting, but it's actually not much more difficult that the already challenging Hard mode.



* '''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Parodied''': ???

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* '''Subverted''': ???
Heroes of Troperia has Normal, Hard, and Very Hard, but Hard is considered the main difficulty, as Normal contains EasyModeMockery.
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However, beating Very Hard unlocks Insane, which '''is''' harder.
* '''Parodied''': ???Heroes of Troperia has a secret 'Impossible' difficulty that [[PressStartToGameOver kills you right at the beginning]].
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'''Basic Trope''': A difficulty harder than the 'Hard' difficulty
* '''Straight''': Heroes of Troperia has a 'Very hard' difficulty, which is harder than the 'Hard' difficulty
* '''Exaggerated''': Heroes of Troperia has several difficulty levels above Hard including 'Very hard' and 'Insane'.
* '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''': The game is [[ItsEasySoItSucks very easy]] on the easier difficulty ratings
* '''Inverted''': EasierThanEasy
* '''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''':
** The hardest difficulty level is 'Hard'.
** There are no difficulty levels.
* '''Enforced''': Hardcore players wanted a difficulty that would challenge them.
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': ???
* '''Discussed''':
* '''Conversed''': "Why do so many games have a difficulty above Hard if Hard is pretty difficult?"
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%%* '''Deconstructed''': ???
%%* '''Reconstructed''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???

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