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* '''Averted''': The work is at [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness the hard end of the scale,]] and thus deems FTL travel impossible.
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* '''Averted''': The work is at [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness the a hard end of the scale,]] science fiction, and thus deems FTL travel impossible.
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* '''Averted''': The spaceships can travel no faster than light.
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* '''Averted''': The spaceships can work is at [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness the hard end of the scale,]] and thus deems FTL travel no faster than light.impossible.
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* '''Defied''': The work is at [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness the hard end of the scale,]] and thus deems FTL travel impossible.
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* '''Defied''': The work Alice destroys Bob's FTL drives as well as her own as soon as she realizes going faster than light is at [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness tearing the hard end fabric of the scale,]] and thus deems FTL travel impossible.universe apart.
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* '''Averted''': The spaceships travel slower than light.
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* '''Averted''': The spaceships can travel slower no faster than light.
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** "The HMS Troper's Reality-Bubble-Generator (RBG) Mark 41 is a refinement of the staple artificial real-space envelopes that protects the vessels travelling in FTL-Space from its hostile environment and hostile inhabitants. Whereas previous models still carries a substantial risk of causing a 'Realspace Incursion Event' inside starships and at the planets they leave or arrive in, the Mark 41's refinements through further understanding of the principles behind the Predecessors' ancient relic star-drives is expected to reduce these risks, already miniscule compared to the early days of FTL travel with Mark 1 to 15 RBG, by another order of magnitude at only a fraction of the costs in credit and energy previously required..."
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** "The HMS Troper's Reality-Bubble-Generator (RBG) Mark 41 is a refinement of the staple artificial real-space envelopes that protects the vessels travelling in FTL-Space from its hostile environment and hostile inhabitants. Whereas previous models still carries a substantial risk of causing a 'Realspace Incursion Event' inside starships and at the planets they leave or arrive in, at, the Mark 41's refinements through further understanding of the principles behind the Predecessors' ancient relic star-drives is expected to reduce these risks, already miniscule compared to the early days of FTL travel with Mark 1 to 15 RBG, by another order of magnitude at only a fraction of the costs in credit and energy previously required..."
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** "The HMS Troper's Reality-Bubble-Generator (RBG) Mark 41 is a refinement of the staple artificial real-space envelopes that protects the vessels travelling in FTL-Space from its hostile environment and hostile inhabitants. Whereas previous models still carries a substantial risk of causing a 'Realspace Incursion Event' inside starships and at the planets they leave or arrive in, the Mark 41's refinements through further understanding of the principles behind the Predecessors' ancient relic star-drives is expected to reduce these risks, already miniscule compared to the early days of FTL travel with Mark 1 to 15 RBG, by another order of magnitude".
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** "The HMS Troper's Reality-Bubble-Generator (RBG) Mark 41 is a refinement of the staple artificial real-space envelopes that protects the vessels travelling in FTL-Space from its hostile environment and hostile inhabitants. Whereas previous models still carries a substantial risk of causing a 'Realspace Incursion Event' inside starships and at the planets they leave or arrive in, the Mark 41's refinements through further understanding of the principles behind the Predecessors' ancient relic star-drives is expected to reduce these risks, already miniscule compared to the early days of FTL travel with Mark 1 to 15 RBG, by another order of magnitude".magnitude at only a fraction of the costs in credit and energy previously required..."
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** "The HMS Troper's Reality-Bubble-Generator (RBG) Mark 41 is a refinement of the staple artificial real-space envelopes that protects the vessels travelling in FTL-Space from its hostile environment and hostile inhabitants. Whereas previous models still carries a substantial risk of causing a 'Realspace Incursion Event' inside starships and at the planets they leave or arrive in, the Mark 41's refinements through further understanding of the principles behind the Predecessors' ancient relic star-drives is expected to reduce these risks, already miniscule compared to the early days of FTL travel with Mark 1 to 15 RBGs, by another order of magnitude".
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** "The HMS Troper's Reality-Bubble-Generator (RBG) Mark 41 is a refinement of the staple artificial real-space envelopes that protects the vessels travelling in FTL-Space from its hostile environment and hostile inhabitants. Whereas previous models still carries a substantial risk of causing a 'Realspace Incursion Event' inside starships and at the planets they leave or arrive in, the Mark 41's refinements through further understanding of the principles behind the Predecessors' ancient relic star-drives is expected to reduce these risks, already miniscule compared to the early days of FTL travel with Mark 1 to 15 RBGs, RBG, by another order of magnitude".
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** HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace: you better be prepared to face the immense risks, dangers and costs of messing with the laws of physics, because they range from being destroyed by hostile natural phenomena unique to your FTL-space to opening the way for [[Film/EventHorizon horrible]], [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 incomprehensible inhabitants]] there to subject you and your destinations to a FateWorseThanDeath.
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** HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace: you better be prepared to face the immense risks, dangers and costs of messing with the laws of physics, because they range from being destroyed by hostile natural phenomena unique to your FTL-space to opening the way for [[Film/EventHorizon horrible]], [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 incomprehensible incomprehensible]] [[EldritchAbomination inhabitants]] there [[CosmicHorrorStory to subject you and your destinations destinations]] to a FateWorseThanDeath.
** "The HMS Troper's Reality-Bubble-Generator (RBG) Mark 41 is a refinement of the staple artificial real-space envelopes that protects the vessels travelling in FTL-Space from its hostile environment and hostile inhabitants. Whereas previous models still carries a substantial risk of causing a 'Realspace Incursion Event' inside starships and at the planets they leave or arrive in, the Mark 41's refinements through further understanding of the principles behind the Predecessors' ancient relic star-drives is expected to reduce these risks, already miniscule compared to the early days of FTL travel with Mark 1 to 15 RBGs, by another order of magnitude".
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** The universe is much more paradox-resistant than previously speculated. While you DO travel back in time, when you arrive reality literally prevents you from doing anything that could violate causality until you catch up chronologically. Or the drive will simply not make the jump at all until probability for paradox goes down to zero.
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* '''Deconstructed''':
** The FTL method violates causality and causes the laws of physics to break down across the universe after a ''successful'' jump, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard effectively dooming it]] and [[ApocalypseHow all of reality]].
** The FTL method violates causality and causes the laws of physics to break down across the universe after a ''successful'' jump, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard effectively dooming it]] and [[ApocalypseHow all of reality]].
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'''Deconstructed''': Did you ''really'' think there wouldn't be consequences for ''breaking the rules of reality''?
** The FTL method violates causality and causes the laws of physics to break down across the universe after a ''successful'' jump, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard effectively doomingit]] the FTL starship]] and [[ApocalypseHow all of reality]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': Yes, but they can be mitigated.
** The FTL method used would not violate causality it involves tunneling through space-time between two locations and traveling through it at subluminal speeds. The impossibility of faster-than-light relative speed only applies locally.
** The FTL method used would not violate causality it involves tunneling through space-time between two locations and traveling through it at subluminal speeds. The impossibility of faster-than-light relative speed only applies locally.
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** FTL is possible, but because it is more or less fundamentally a form of TimeTravel by its very causality-violating nature, any advanced interstellar civilization which developed it almost guaranteed to end up [[{{RetGone}} retroactively erasing themselves]] [[Literature/RevelationSpaceSeries from existence by accident]], thus providing another solution to the [[UsefulNotes/FermiParadox Fermi Paradox]].
** HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace: you better be prepared to face the immense risks, dangers and costs of messing with the laws of physics, because they range from being destroyed by hostile natural phenomena unique to your FTL-space to opening the way for horrible, incomprehensible EldritchAbomination inhabitants there to subject you and your destinations to a FateWorseThanDeath.
** HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace: you better be prepared to face the immense risks, dangers and costs of messing with the laws of physics, because they range from being destroyed by hostile natural phenomena unique to your FTL-space to opening the way for horrible, incomprehensible EldritchAbomination inhabitants there to subject you and your destinations to a FateWorseThanDeath.
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** FTL is possible, but because it is more or less fundamentally a form of TimeTravel by its very causality-violating nature, any advanced interstellar civilization which developed it is almost guaranteed to end up [[{{RetGone}} retroactively erasing themselves]] [[Literature/RevelationSpaceSeries from existence by accident]], thus providing another solution to the [[UsefulNotes/FermiParadox Fermi Paradox]].
** HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace: you better be prepared to face the immense risks, dangers and costs of messing with the laws of physics, because they range from being destroyed by hostile natural phenomena unique to your FTL-space to opening the way forhorrible, [[Film/EventHorizon horrible]], [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 incomprehensible EldritchAbomination inhabitants inhabitants]] there to subject you and your destinations to a FateWorseThanDeath.
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** The FTL method violates causality and causes the laws of physics to break down across the universe after a ''successful'' jump, [[HoistByItsOwnPetard effectively dooming it]] and [[ApocalypseHow all of reality]].
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** The FTL method violates causality and causes the laws of physics to break down across the universe after a ''successful'' jump, [[HoistByItsOwnPetard [[HoistByHisOwnPetard effectively dooming it]] and [[ApocalypseHow all of reality]].
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* '''Deconstructed''':
** The FTL method violates causality and causes the laws of physics to break down across the universe after a ''successful'' jump, [[HoistByItsOwnPetard effectively dooming it]] and [[ApocalypseHow all of reality]].
** FTL is possible, but because it is more or less fundamentally a form of TimeTravel by its very causality-violating nature, any advanced interstellar civilization which developed it almost guaranteed to end up [[{{RetGone}} retroactively erasing themselves]] [[Literature/RevelationSpaceSeries from existence by accident]], thus providing another solution to the [[UsefulNotes/FermiParadox Fermi Paradox]].
** HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace: you better be prepared to face the immense risks, dangers and costs of messing with the laws of physics, because they range from being destroyed by hostile natural phenomena unique to your FTL-space to opening the way for horrible, incomprehensible EldritchAbomination inhabitants there to subject you and your destinations to a FateWorseThanDeath.
** The FTL method violates causality and causes the laws of physics to break down across the universe after a ''successful'' jump, [[HoistByItsOwnPetard effectively dooming it]] and [[ApocalypseHow all of reality]].
** FTL is possible, but because it is more or less fundamentally a form of TimeTravel by its very causality-violating nature, any advanced interstellar civilization which developed it almost guaranteed to end up [[{{RetGone}} retroactively erasing themselves]] [[Literature/RevelationSpaceSeries from existence by accident]], thus providing another solution to the [[UsefulNotes/FermiParadox Fermi Paradox]].
** HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace: you better be prepared to face the immense risks, dangers and costs of messing with the laws of physics, because they range from being destroyed by hostile natural phenomena unique to your FTL-space to opening the way for horrible, incomprehensible EldritchAbomination inhabitants there to subject you and your destinations to a FateWorseThanDeath.
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* '''Parodied''': Alex can fly at superluminal speeds by [[ToiletHumor farting extremely powerfully.]]
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* '''Parodied''': Alex can fly at superluminal speeds by [[ToiletHumor [[ToiletHumour farting extremely powerfully.]]
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** Bob's spaceship uses futuristic non-Newtonian propulsion that can break the lightspeed limit.
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* '''Straight''': Bob travels faster than light in a spaceship, which can take minutes to travel a distance light takes years.
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** Everything travels faster than light except the ship.
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* '''Discussed''': If this was science fiction, our ship will be traveling faster than light.
* '''Conversed''': "Why do spaceships travel faster than light in science fiction when it is impossible to go faster than light.
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* '''Discussed''': If "If this was science fiction, our ship will be traveling faster than light.
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* '''Conversed''': "Why do spaceships travel faster than light in science fiction when it is impossible to go faster thanlight.light?" "[[MST3KMantra It's just a show.]]"
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* '''Double Subverted''': ???It turns out that spaceships ''can'' travel faster than light, but it's expensive to do so, and it wasn't deemed necessary for that specific journey.
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* '''Invoked''': ???Alice, a very intelligent scientist and inventor, discovers an easy way to transfer matter faster than the speed of light.
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* '''Defied''': ???The work is at [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness the hard end of the scale,]] and thus deems FTL travel impossible.
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* '''Straight''': Bob travels faster than light in a spaceship, which can take minutes to travel a distance light takes years
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob can travel across the observable universe in a split-second
* '''Downplayed''': Bob travels slightly faster than light
* '''Justified''': The speed of light is faster, sometimes even infinite
* '''Inverted''': A ship travels ridiculously slow
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob can travel across the observable universe in a split-second
* '''Downplayed''': Bob travels slightly faster than light
* '''Justified''': The speed of light is faster, sometimes even infinite
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* '''Straight''': Bob travels faster than light in a spaceship, which can take minutes to travel a distance light takes years
years.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob can travel across the observable universe in asplit-second
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* '''Conversed''': "Why do spaceships travel faster than light in science fiction when it is impossible to go faster thanlightlight.
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'''Basic Trope''': Travel faster than light in spaceships
* '''Straight''': Bob travels faster than light in a spaceship, which can take minutes to travel a distance light takes years
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob can travel across the observable universe in a split-second
* '''Downplayed''': Bob travels slightly faster than light
* '''Justified''': The speed of light is faster, sometimes even infinite
* '''Inverted''': A ship travels ridiculously slow
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* '''Averted''': The spaceships travel slower than light
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* '''Exploited''': ???
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* '''Discussed''': If this was science fiction, our ship will be traveling faster than light
* '''Conversed''': "Why do spaceships travel faster than light in science fiction when it is impossible to go faster than light
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* '''Straight''': Bob travels faster than light in a spaceship, which can take minutes to travel a distance light takes years
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob can travel across the observable universe in a split-second
* '''Downplayed''': Bob travels slightly faster than light
* '''Justified''': The speed of light is faster, sometimes even infinite
* '''Inverted''': A ship travels ridiculously slow
* '''Subverted''': ???
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* '''Parodied''': ???
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* '''Averted''': The spaceships travel slower than light
* '''Enforced''': The greater wants interstellar travel to happen within a reasonable length of time
* '''Lampshaded''': "Why can spaceships travel faster than light"
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* '''Exploited''': ???
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