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** Alice had created an image of Benny based on what's known about him publicly, and had ended up LovingAShadow rather than Benny's actual character.
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A true Troper would use the link back to BrokenPedestal. You taught me that. So... why?

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A true Troper would use the link back to BrokenPedestal. You taught me that. So... why?why? Why did you go back through the top?
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** While Chris didn't like his SinkOrSwimMentor Bob, he begrudgingly respected him for being a powerful and charitable hero. And then Chris finds out that his mentor is a SerialKiller BeneathNotice and all that respect (it's begrudging, but still respect) gets thrown out of the window.
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** The reason Bob was so angry Chris was hounding him is because Chris was close to accidentally stumbling upon Bob's crimes.

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** The reason Bob Benny was so angry Chris Alice was hounding him is was because Chris Alice was close to accidentally stumbling upon Bob's crimes.crimes, and Benny believed Alice put on an "adoring fangirl" disguise to investigate him.
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** Alternately, Chris is the one who starts committing crimes using the training he got from Bob, [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil to Bob's deep disgust when he finds out]].

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** Alternately, Chris is the one who starts committing crimes using the training he got from Bob, [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil to Bob's deep disgust when he finds out]].



** Chris finally meets Bob, someone he greatly admires, and furiously talks about how much of a jerk he was. It turns out Bob only treated Chris this way because Chris was [[StalkerWithoutACrush relentlessly hounding him]] until he got fed up.

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** Chris Alice finally meets Bob, someone he greatly admires, famous actor Benny, and later furiously talks about how much of a jerk he was. It turns out Bob Benny only treated Chris Alice this way because Chris was [[StalkerWithoutACrush relentlessly hounding him]] until he got fed up.

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** There is literally nothing Bob can do or that other people will point out to Chris, no matter how awful or even horrifying, that will destroy the pedestal Chris has built.



* '''Played For Drama''': Chris faces off against Bob in a climactic battle using everything he learned from him in order to win, [[VillainousBSOD causing a defeated Bob to regret how]] [[GoneHorriblyRight teaching Chris]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard led to his own downfall.]] It seems the student really ''has'' SurpassedTheTeacher.
* '''Played For Horror''': Chris discovers Bob is a cannibalistic SerialKiller and many of the odd things that happened during Chris' training were caused by Bob's spree, not to mention that there were many times Bob felt the desire to turn Chris into one of his victims.

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Chris faces off against Bob in a climactic battle using everything he learned from him in order to win, [[VillainousBSOD causing a defeated Bob to regret how]] [[GoneHorriblyRight teaching Chris]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard led to his own downfall.]] It seems the student really ''has'' SurpassedTheTeacher.
** Chris [[IRejectYourReality goes through some serious denial]] of Bob's vileness and it doesn't looks [[SanitySlippage like it will end well]] long before it actually does.
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Chris discovers Bob is a cannibalistic SerialKiller and many of the odd things that happened during Chris' training were caused by Bob's spree, not to mention that there were many times Bob felt the desire to turn Chris into one of his victims.victims.
** Chris is so determined to keep Bob on that pedestal that he kills all that try to destroy it, [[LoonyFan even Bob himself]].

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** As Chris grows under Bob's tutelage, he loses his starry-eyed admiration and is willing to point out Bob's flaws. Bob, for his part, wouldn't have it any other way.

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** As Chris grows under Bob's tutelage, he loses his starry-eyed admiration and comes to recognize that Bob isn’t an IdealHero. While Chris is willing to point out Bob's flaws. Bob, for naturally disappointed by this, Bob’s flaws aren’t very severe, and Chris recognizes that his part, wouldn't have it any other way.mentor is still a good man, just imperfect.



** Chris finally meets Bob, someone he greatly admires, and furiously talks about how much of a jerk he was. It turns out Bob only treated Chris this way because Chris was [[StalkerWithoutACrush relentlessly hounding him]] until he got feed up.

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** Chris finally meets Bob, someone he greatly admires, and furiously talks about how much of a jerk he was. It turns out Bob only treated Chris this way because Chris was [[StalkerWithoutACrush relentlessly hounding him]] until he got feed up.fed up.
** Bob didn’t do anything particularly bad, Chris just held him to ''very'' high standards. Once Chris understands this, he realizes expecting Bob to meet those standards was very unfair of him.



** Chris' respect for Bob was turning into the kind of blind HeroWorship that the latter despised; he doesn't like being put on a pedestal in the first place. He decides to leave clues that will allow Chris to catch him breaking the law so as to shatter his student's unrealistic view of him.

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** Chris' respect for Bob was turning into the kind of blind HeroWorship that the latter despised; he doesn't does not like being put on a pedestal in the first place. He decides HeroWorship, so he does his best to leave clues that will allow ensure Chris to catch him breaking the law so as to shatter his student's won’t develop unrealistic view views of him.his mentor, along with breaking down any that already exist. This results in Chris seeing Bob as a good person who still has flaws instead of an IdealHero, and Bob wouldn't have it any other way.



* '''Deconstructed''': Chris finally realizes that Bob was always a simple asshole instead of the KnightInSourArmor he always thought he was; it's just that he (and Bob) have never let himself admit it.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Chris finally realizes that Bob was always a simple asshole instead of the KnightInSourArmor he always thought he was; it's just that he (and Bob) have never let himself admit it.it.
** Bob is a fundamentally decent person who also has flaws and vices just like everyone else, but Chris sees him as TheParagon, holding Bob to an unrealistic standard of behavior which he’s never pretended to meet. When these illusions are finally shattered and Chris tells Bob [[DisappointedInYou how disappointed he is]], Bob [[WhatTheHellHero calls Chris out]] not just for holding such delusional standards in the first place, but also for arrogantly thinking he has the right to demand Bob meet them. Rather than plucking at the audience’s heartstrings, the scene reveals Chris’ behavior for the petulance that it is.



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* '''Downplayed''': Chris discovers that his mentor, Bob, has sold out and started churning out useless self-help guides for a quick buck, causing Chris to feel somewhat contemptuous.

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Chris discovers that his mentor, Bob, has sold out and started churning out useless self-help guides for a quick buck, causing Chris to feel somewhat contemptuous.contemptuous.
** As Chris grows under Bob's tutelage, he loses his starry-eyed admiration and is willing to point out Bob's flaws. Bob, for his part, wouldn't have it any other way.


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** The reason Bob was so angry Chris was hounding him is because Chris was close to accidentally stumbling upon Bob's crimes.
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** Bob's always been an asshole, especially to Alice [[SadistTeacher and definitely during the time he trained her]]. Even as Alice seeks to stop him, every time she remembers him Alice chooses to do so WartsAndAll.

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** Bob's always been an asshole, especially to Alice Chris [[SadistTeacher and definitely during the time he trained her]]. him]]. Even as Alice Bob seeks to stop him, every time she he remembers him Alice Bob chooses to do so WartsAndAll.
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** Alice never had Bob on a pedestal to begin with, so he never disillusions her.


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* '''Played For Horror''': Chris discovers Bob is a cannibalistic SerialKiller and many of the odd things that happened during Chris' training were caused by Bob's spree, not to mention that there were many times Bob felt the desire to turn Chris into one of his victims.
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': When Chris encounters Bob after twenty years and there seems to be something weird going on that Bob is directly involved in, everybody else in the cast expects the "mentor gone evil" revelation to occur. Turns out the odd things Bob has done since he appeared are the result of harmless vices and the "Bob is a hitman for TheCartel" part of the revelation turns out to be [[NotEvilJustMisunderstood a huge misunderstanding]].

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* '''Averted''': Bob has always been the same noble teacher.

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Bob has always been the same noble teacher.teacher.
** Bob's always been an asshole, especially to Alice [[SadistTeacher and definitely during the time he trained her]]. Even as Alice seeks to stop him, every time she remembers him Alice chooses to do so WartsAndAll.

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A true Troper would use the link back to BrokenPedestal. You taught me that. So...why?

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A true Troper would use the link back to BrokenPedestal. You taught me that. So... why?

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* '''Defied''': Bob is highly disillusioned by the CrapsackWorld, but decides [[PrinciplesZealot keeping his principles is more important]], especially with all the people he influenced over his life looking up to him.

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Bob is highly disillusioned by the CrapsackWorld, but decides [[PrinciplesZealot keeping his principles is more important]], especially with all the people he influenced over his life looking up to him.

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* '''Straight''': Bob once taught Chris noble martial arts, and Chris uses his ninja powers to catch Bob committing crimes.

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Bob once taught Chris noble martial arts, and Chris uses his ninja powers to catch Bob committing crimes.
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** Alice meets her favorite actor, Benny and becomes disillusioned after discovering he's a huge JerkAss.


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** Alice decides to never meet her hero Benny, so she won't be disappointed if he turns out to be a jerkass.
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** Bob is just as flawed as anyone else.

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** Chris confronts [[BigBad Alice]], who he blames for Bob's FaceHeelTurn. No, Alice had nothing to do with it. Looks like Bob was just using Chris to get rid of the competition. Or Bob was nothing more than her [[EvilAllAlong flunky all along.]]

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** Chris confronts [[BigBad Alice]], who whom he blames for Bob's FaceHeelTurn. No, FaceHeelTurn, but it turns out Alice had nothing to do with it. Looks like Bob was just using Chris had willingly joined forces with her, then tries to get rid of shift all the competition. Or Bob was nothing more than blame on her [[EvilAllAlong flunky all along.]] to avoid taking responsibility of her actions because he's such a DirtyCoward.



* '''Enforced''': The writers decide Bob needs some CharacterDevelopment.

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The writers decide Bob needs some CharacterDevelopment.CharacterDevelopment.
** The writers believe that HumansAreFlawed and finds Bob to be too unrealistically good, so they make him a secretly villainous character who is just pretending to be virtuous.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Chris becomes disillusioned after finding out that his instructor, Bob, who used to be admired for his martial arts skills, is now a nobody working in a low income job.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob, once a pacifist and a lover of kittens, has crossed the MoralEventHorizon and is barely recognized as Chris' original mentor, such is the atrocity of his crimes.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob, once a pacifist and a lover of kittens, has crossed the MoralEventHorizon to become a CompleteMonster, and is barely recognized as Chris' original mentor, such is the atrocity of his crimes.

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* '''Deconstructed''':
** Chris spirals into depression over the intense hypocrisy of Bob's good teachings and his current evil actions.
** Chris finally realizes that Bob was always a simple asshole instead of the KnightInSourArmor he always thought he was; it's just that he (and Bob) have never let himself admit it.

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** Chris spirals into depression over the intense hypocrisy of Bob's good teachings and his current evil actions.
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'''Deconstructed''': Chris finally realizes that Bob was always a simple asshole instead of the KnightInSourArmor he always thought he was; it's just that he (and Bob) have never let himself admit it.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Chris faces off against Bob in a climactic battle using everything he learned from him in order to win, causing a defeated Bob to regret how [[GoneHorriblyRight teaching Chris]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard led to his own downfall.]]

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* '''Played For Drama''': Chris faces off against Bob in a climactic battle using everything he learned from him in order to win, [[VillainousBSOD causing a defeated Bob to regret how how]] [[GoneHorriblyRight teaching Chris]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard led to his own downfall.]]]] It seems the student really ''has'' SurpassedTheTeacher.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Chris faces off against Bob in a climactic battle using everything he learned from him in order to win, causing a defeated Bob to regret [[GoneHorriblyRight how teaching Chris]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard led to his own downfall.]]

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* '''Played For Drama''': Chris faces off against Bob in a climactic battle using everything he learned from him in order to win, causing a defeated Bob to regret how [[GoneHorriblyRight how teaching Chris]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard led to his own downfall.]]
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'''Played For Drama''': Chris faces off against Bob in a climactic battle using everything he learned from him in order to win, causing a defeated Bob to regret [[GoneHorriblyRight how teaching Chris]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard led to his own downfall.]]

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* '''Played For Drama''': Chris faces off against Bob in a climactic battle using everything he learned from him in order to win, causing a defeated Bob to regret [[GoneHorriblyRight how teaching Chris]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard led to his own downfall.]]

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'''Played For Drama''': Chris faces off against Bob in a climactic battle using everything he learned from him in order to win, causing a defeated Bob to regret [[GoneHorriblyRight how teaching Chris]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard led to his own downfall.]]



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** Chris was always aware Bob was never a good person, he learned under him for his skills not his moral character.
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** Bob deliberately arranges things that break Chris' [[HeroWorship unrealistic expectations]] of Bob, to force him to acknowledge that [[HumansAreFlawed no one is flawless]].



* '''Invoked''': Bob decides to go under an alias and commit crimes in another city. The city where Chris is now policing.
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* '''Invoked''': Bob decides to go under an alias and commit crimes in another city. The city where Chris is now policing.
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* '''Exploited''': Bob decides to go under an alias and commit crimes in another city. The city where Chris is now policing.

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