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* '''Enforced''': Tammi is a EmotionEater and Gilbert is in MadLove.
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* '''Enforced''': Tammi is The executives see that this sort of relationship brings a EmotionEater lot of viewers in and Gilbert is in MadLove.urges the writers to pull this trope.
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* '''Justified''': Tammi and Gilbert actually ''want'' this type of relationship, both have issues and agree that though dysfunctional, as long as both enter into the relationship freely and with ground rules they're at least less likely to hurt each other.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Tammi and Gilbert actually ''want'' this type of relationship, both have issues and agree that though dysfunctional, as long as both enter into the relationship freely and with ground rules they're at least less likely to hurt eachother.other.
** Tammi [[CargoShip is an inanimate object.]]
** Tammi and Gilbert actually ''want'' this type of relationship, both have issues and agree that though dysfunctional, as long as both enter into the relationship freely and with ground rules they're at least less likely to hurt each
** Tammi [[CargoShip is an inanimate object.]]
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** ... only for Tammi to monologue about how she knows that will push him into ever more extravagant Giving.
** ... only for Gilbert to make Tammi feel inadequate in the relationship so she's afraid to leave him.
** ... only for Gilbert to make Tammi feel inadequate in the relationship so she's afraid to leave him.
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** ... only for Tammi to monologue about how she knows that will push him into ever more extravagant Giving.
** ... only for Gilbert to make Tammi feel inadequate in the relationship so she's afraid to leave him.
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** Both Tammi and Gilbert attempt to manipulate the other. HilarityEnsues because both suck.
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** Gilbert ''tries'' to undercut Tammi's sense of self worth to make her dependent, but she's so [[TheDitz naturally ditzy]] that Gilbert has actually become a CloudCuckooLandersMinder and is in over his head.
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** Gilbert ''tries'' to undercut Tammi's sense of self worth to make her dependent, but she's so [[TheDitz naturally ditzy]] that Gilbert has actually become a CloudCuckooLandersMinder CloudcuckoolandersMinder and is in over his head.
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** Tammi the taker manipulates Gilbert the giver into lavishing her with affection which she barely reciprocates.
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** Tammi the taker manipulates Gilbert the giver into lavishing her with affection which she barely reciprocates.
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** Tammi is hurts herself and acts incompetent to make Gilbert dote on her.
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** Tammi is hurts herself and acts incompetent to make Gilbert dote on her.
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** "What a creep. Gilbert hangs out where movies that trick young girls into thinking unhealthy relationships are normal play so he can get girlfriends."
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** "What a creep. Gilbert hangs out where movies that trick those 'trick young girls into thinking unhealthy relationships are normal normal' movies play just so he can get girlfriends."
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** Tammi wants to get a loyal lacky, so she tricks her boyfriend into thinking she's helpless and needs love and loyalty.
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** Tammi wants to get a loyal lacky, lackey, so she tricks her boyfriend into thinking she's helpless and needs love and loyalty.
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* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Tammi/Gilbert like manipulate others into having this kind of relationship. So he tricks them into dating each other knowing they are incompatible kinds of Giver and Taker.
* '''Defied''': Despite having manipulative and submissive tendencies, both Tammi and Gilbert try very hard not to use each other and see a therapist.
* '''Defied''': Despite having manipulative and submissive tendencies, both Tammi and Gilbert try very hard not to use each other and see a therapist.
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* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Tammi/Gilbert Tammi and Gilbert both like to manipulate others into having this kind of relationship. So So, he tricks them into dating each other other, knowing they are they're incompatible kinds of Giver and Taker.
* '''Defied''': Despite having manipulative and submissive tendencies, both Tammi and Gilbert try very hard not to use eachother other, and see they start seeing a therapist.
* '''Defied''': Despite having manipulative and submissive tendencies, both Tammi and Gilbert try very hard not to use each
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* '''Deconstructed''': Their relationship is revealed to be unrealistic and unsustainable, the kinds of personalities prone to inflicting and participating in these relationships aren't able to make them work and they break up before long. This ultimately reduces the facade of the relationship to its most abusive core and leads to a cycle of breakups.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Their relationship is revealed to be unrealistic and unsustainable, the kinds of personalities prone to inflicting and participating in these relationships aren't able to make them work and they break up before long. This ultimately reduces the facade façade of the relationship to its most abusive core and leads to a cycle of breakups.
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* '''Conversed''': "Wow, if it weren't for the fact ThereAreNoTherapists, ''both of these people would be in an institution.'' by now."
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* '''Conversed''': "Wow, if it weren't for the fact ThereAreNoTherapists, ''both of these people would be in an institution.'' by institution'' now."
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* '''Conversed''': "Wow, if it weren't for ThereAreNoTherapists ''both of these people would be in an institution."''
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* '''Conversed''': "Wow, if it weren't for ThereAreNoTherapists the fact ThereAreNoTherapists, ''both of these people would be in an institution."'''' by now."
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* '''Straight''': Tammi the taker manipulates Gilbert the giver into lavishing her with affection which she barely reciprocates.
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* '''Straight''': '''Straight''':
** Tammi the taker manipulates Gilbert the giver into lavishing her with affection which she barely reciprocates.
** Tammi the taker manipulates Gilbert the giver into lavishing her with affection which she barely reciprocates.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Tammi is emotionally and physically abusive of Gilbert to the point that neighbors call the police, with Gilbert ''still'' refusing to press charges and insisting his love can redeem her.
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Tammi is emotionally and physically abusive of Gilbert to the point that neighbors call the police, with Gilbert ''still'' refusing to press charges and insisting his love can redeem her.
** Tammi is emotionally and physically abusive of Gilbert to the point that neighbors call the police, with Gilbert ''still'' refusing to press charges and insisting his love can redeem her.
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* '''Downplayed''': Tammi does put some love and energy into the relationship, but it's clear Gilbert is the one holding it together.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Tammi does put some love and energy into the relationship, but it's clear Gilbert is the one holding it together.
** Tammi does put some love and energy into the relationship, but it's clear Gilbert is the one holding it together.
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* '''Inverted''': Tammi honestly doesn't want to date Gilbert at all, and all that that does is make Gilbert even more enthusiastic about his Giving.
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** Tammi honestly doesn't want to date Gilbert at all, and all that that does is make Gilbert even more enthusiastic about his Giving.
** Tammi honestly doesn't want to date Gilbert at all, and all that that does is make Gilbert even more enthusiastic about his Giving.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ... only for Tammi to monologue about how she knows that will push him into ever more extravagant Giving.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ...Subverted''':
** ... only for Tammi to monologue about how she knows that will push him into ever more extravagant Giving.
** ... only for Tammi to monologue about how she knows that will push him into ever more extravagant Giving.
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* '''Parodied''': Tammi is [[ComedicSociopathy comically abusive]] of Gilbert, who nonetheless is unfailingly generous with his love and affection.
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Tammi is [[ComedicSociopathy comically abusive]] of Gilbert, who nonetheless is unfailingly generous with his love and affection.
** Tammi is [[ComedicSociopathy comically abusive]] of Gilbert, who nonetheless is unfailingly generous with his love and affection.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "The only way Tammi could find a boyfriend was to get an emotionally crippled puppy-love obsessed guy like Gilbert."
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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
** "The only way Tammi could find a boyfriend was to get an emotionally crippled puppy-love obsessed guy like Gilbert."
** "The only way Tammi could find a boyfriend was to get an emotionally crippled puppy-love obsessed guy like Gilbert."
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* '''Invoked''': Tammi wants to get a loyal lacky, so she tricks her boyfriend into thinking she's helpless and needs love and loyalty.
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* '''Invoked''': '''Invoked''':
** Tammi wants to get a loyal lacky, so she tricks her boyfriend into thinking she's helpless and needs love and loyalty.
** Tammi wants to get a loyal lacky, so she tricks her boyfriend into thinking she's helpless and needs love and loyalty.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Their relationship is revealed to be unrealistic and unsustainable, the kinds of personalities prone to inflicting and participating in these relationships aren't able to make them work and they break up before long. This ultimately reduces the facade of the relationship to its most abusive core and leads to a cycle of breakups.
* '''Reconstructed''': Both Tammi and Gilbert are unable to recognize the abusive type of relationship they're in due to being blinded by abusive/dysfunctional pasts... ''at first.'' Once they realize this, they try hard to leave and/or change.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Tammi is comically needy and easy to anger. Gilbert is outrageously generous and insecure. They break up at least twice a day.
* '''Played For Drama''': Tammi and Gilbert were only mildly dysfunctional at the start, but years of insecurity and dysfunction have warped them into thinking they're in a normal relationship. Eventually they do break up... and take their bad habits with them.
* '''Reconstructed''': Both Tammi and Gilbert are unable to recognize the abusive type of relationship they're in due to being blinded by abusive/dysfunctional pasts... ''at first.'' Once they realize this, they try hard to leave and/or change.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Tammi is comically needy and easy to anger. Gilbert is outrageously generous and insecure. They break up at least twice a day.
* '''Played For Drama''': Tammi and Gilbert were only mildly dysfunctional at the start, but years of insecurity and dysfunction have warped them into thinking they're in a normal relationship. Eventually they do break up... and take their bad habits with them.
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Back to [Trope]
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Back to [Trope]AllTakeAndNoGive.
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* '''Inverted''': Tammi doesn't manipulate Gilbert through stringing him along with morsels of affection, she strategically uses impressive displays of love to keep him giving far more than is healthy.
** Gilbert makes Tammi ''think'' he's actually helping her become more independent, but everything he's teaching her to do make her more emotionally frail and lost, making it that much easier to brainwash her.
* '''Subverted''': Tammi does not want Gilbert's effusive affection and would rather he stop trying to date her.
** Gilbert tries to make Tammi less dependent on him, while trying ''very'' hard to avoid her tricking him into thinking she's still weak.
** Gilbert makes Tammi ''think'' he's actually helping her become more independent, but everything he's teaching her to do make her more emotionally frail and lost, making it that much easier to brainwash her.
* '''Subverted''': Tammi does not want Gilbert's effusive affection and would rather he stop trying to date her.
** Gilbert tries to make Tammi less dependent on him, while trying ''very'' hard to avoid her tricking him into thinking she's still weak.
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* '''Inverted''': Tammi honestly doesn't manipulate want to date Gilbert through stringing him along with morsels of affection, she strategically uses impressive displays of love to keep him giving far more than at all, and all that that does is healthy.
**make Gilbert makes even more enthusiastic about his Giving.
** Tammi''think'' he's actually helping her become more independent, but everything he's teaching her is hurts herself and acts incompetent to do make her more emotionally frail and lost, making it that much easier to brainwash her.
Gilbert dote on her.
* '''Subverted''': Both Tammidoes not want Gilbert's effusive affection and would rather he stop trying to date her.
**Gilbert tries to make Tammi less dependent on him, while trying ''very'' hard to avoid her tricking him into thinking she's still weak.insist that they be equal partners in love, neither giving nor taking in excess.
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** Tammi
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** ... only for Tammi to hurt herself to force Gilbert into a permanent caretaker role, which was exactly what he wanted.
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** ... only for Tammi to hurt herself to force Gilbert into a permanent caretaker role, which was exactly what he wanted.to make Tammi feel inadequate in the relationship so she's afraid to leave him.
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* '''Justified''': Tammi and Gilbert actually ''want'' this type of relationship, both come have issues and agree that though dysfunctional, as long as both enter into the relationship freely and with ground rules they're at least less likely to hurt each other.
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* '''Justified''': Tammi and Gilbert actually ''want'' this type of relationship, both come have issues and agree that though dysfunctional, as long as both enter into the relationship freely and with ground rules they're at least less likely to hurt each other.
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* ** Gilbert tries to make Tammi less dependent on him, while trying ''very'' hard to avoid her tricking him into thinking she's still weak.
* '''Double Subverted''': ... only for Tammi to realize she is BecomingTheMask and starts feeling bad about it, so she reins in his affection.
** ... only for Tammi to finally go StepfordSmiler and snap at Gilbert, killing him in order to become fully independent.
* '''Double Subverted''': ... only for Tammi to realize she is BecomingTheMask and starts feeling bad about it, so she reins in his affection.
** ... only for Tammi to finally go StepfordSmiler and snap at Gilbert, killing him in order to become fully independent.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ... only for Tammi to
** ... only for Tammi to
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* '''Parodied''': Tammi is [[ComedicSocipathy comically abusive]] of Gilbert, who nonetheless is unfailingly generous with his love and affection.
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* '''Parodied''': Tammi is [[ComedicSocipathy [[ComedicSociopathy comically abusive]] of Gilbert, who nonetheless is unfailingly generous with his love and affection.
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* '''Enforced''': Tammi is a PsychicVampire and Gilbert is in MadLove.
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* '''Enforced''': Tammi is a PsychicVampire EmotionEater and Gilbert is in MadLove.
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'''Basic Trope''': A dysfunctional relationship where either a Taker manipulates a Giver into giving them unconditional love, or the Giver manipulates the Taker into being cripplingly dependent.
* '''Straight''': Tammi the taker manipulates Gilbert the giver into lavishing her with affection which she barely reciprocates.
** Gilbert undercuts Tammi's sense of self worth and independence to keep her dependent to his giving.
* '''Exaggerated''': Tammi is emotionally and physically abusive of Gilbert to the point that neighbors call the police, with Gilbert ''still'' refusing to press charges and insisting his love can redeem her.
** Gilbert only dates Tammi because she is physically disabled and emotionally damaged in order to better force her into a dependent Taker position.
* '''Downplayed''': Tammi does put some love and energy into the relationship, but it's clear Gilbert is the one holding it together.
** Tammi actually does need Gilbert's help, who only happens to be condescending about her attempts at independence rather than actively disabling.
* '''Justified''': Tammi and Gilbert actually ''want'' this type of relationship, both come have issues and agree that though dysfunctional, as long as both enter into the relationship freely and with ground rules they're at least less likely to hurt each other.
* '''Inverted''': Tammi doesn't manipulate Gilbert through stringing him along with morsels of affection, she strategically uses impressive displays of love to keep him giving far more than is healthy.
** Gilbert makes Tammi ''think'' he's actually helping her become more independent, but everything he's teaching her to do make her more emotionally frail and lost, making it that much easier to brainwash her.
* '''Subverted''': Tammi does not want Gilbert's effusive affection and would rather he stop trying to date her.
* ** Gilbert tries to make Tammi less dependent on him, while trying ''very'' hard to avoid her tricking him into thinking she's still weak.
* '''Double Subverted''': ... only for Tammi to realize she is BecomingTheMask and starts feeling bad about it, so she reins in his affection.
** ... only for Tammi to finally go StepfordSmiler and snap at Gilbert, killing him in order to become fully independent.
* '''Parodied''': Tammi is [[ComedicSocipathy comically abusive]] of Gilbert, who nonetheless is unfailingly generous with his love and affection.
** Gilbert ''tries'' to undercut Tammi's sense of self worth to make her dependent, but she's so [[TheDitz naturally ditzy]] that Gilbert has actually become a CloudCuckooLandersMinder and is in over his head.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Tammi and Gilbert actually alternate the roles of Taker and Giver over the course of the story.
* '''Averted''': Tammi and Gilbert are actually completely emotionally independent and healthy. Whatever affection they share is mutual or non-binding.
* '''Enforced''': Tammi is a PsychicVampire and Gilbert is in MadLove.
* '''Lampshaded''': "The only way Tammi could find a boyfriend was to get an emotionally crippled puppy-love obsessed guy like Gilbert."
** "What a creep. Gilbert hangs out where movies that trick young girls into thinking unhealthy relationships are normal play so he can get girlfriends."
* '''Invoked''': Tammi wants to get a loyal lacky, so she tricks her boyfriend into thinking she's helpless and needs love and loyalty.
** Charlie wants to break up Gilbert and Tammi, so he tricks Tammi into thinking Gilbert is trying to make emotionally fragile.
* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Tammi/Gilbert like manipulate others into having this kind of relationship. So he tricks them into dating each other knowing they are incompatible kinds of Giver and Taker.
* '''Defied''': Despite having manipulative and submissive tendencies, both Tammi and Gilbert try very hard not to use each other and see a therapist.
* '''Discussed''': "Why is it they're together? Surely such a relationship will only end in tears and blood."
* '''Conversed''': "Wow, if it weren't for ThereAreNoTherapists ''both of these people would be in an institution."''
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* '''Straight''': Tammi the taker manipulates Gilbert the giver into lavishing her with affection which she barely reciprocates.
** Gilbert undercuts Tammi's sense of self worth and independence to keep her dependent to his giving.
* '''Exaggerated''': Tammi is emotionally and physically abusive of Gilbert to the point that neighbors call the police, with Gilbert ''still'' refusing to press charges and insisting his love can redeem her.
** Gilbert only dates Tammi because she is physically disabled and emotionally damaged in order to better force her into a dependent Taker position.
* '''Downplayed''': Tammi does put some love and energy into the relationship, but it's clear Gilbert is the one holding it together.
** Tammi actually does need Gilbert's help, who only happens to be condescending about her attempts at independence rather than actively disabling.
* '''Justified''': Tammi and Gilbert actually ''want'' this type of relationship, both come have issues and agree that though dysfunctional, as long as both enter into the relationship freely and with ground rules they're at least less likely to hurt each other.
* '''Inverted''': Tammi doesn't manipulate Gilbert through stringing him along with morsels of affection, she strategically uses impressive displays of love to keep him giving far more than is healthy.
** Gilbert makes Tammi ''think'' he's actually helping her become more independent, but everything he's teaching her to do make her more emotionally frail and lost, making it that much easier to brainwash her.
* '''Subverted''': Tammi does not want Gilbert's effusive affection and would rather he stop trying to date her.
* ** Gilbert tries to make Tammi less dependent on him, while trying ''very'' hard to avoid her tricking him into thinking she's still weak.
* '''Double Subverted''': ... only for Tammi to realize she is BecomingTheMask and starts feeling bad about it, so she reins in his affection.
** ... only for Tammi to finally go StepfordSmiler and snap at Gilbert, killing him in order to become fully independent.
* '''Parodied''': Tammi is [[ComedicSocipathy comically abusive]] of Gilbert, who nonetheless is unfailingly generous with his love and affection.
** Gilbert ''tries'' to undercut Tammi's sense of self worth to make her dependent, but she's so [[TheDitz naturally ditzy]] that Gilbert has actually become a CloudCuckooLandersMinder and is in over his head.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Tammi and Gilbert actually alternate the roles of Taker and Giver over the course of the story.
* '''Averted''': Tammi and Gilbert are actually completely emotionally independent and healthy. Whatever affection they share is mutual or non-binding.
* '''Enforced''': Tammi is a PsychicVampire and Gilbert is in MadLove.
* '''Lampshaded''': "The only way Tammi could find a boyfriend was to get an emotionally crippled puppy-love obsessed guy like Gilbert."
** "What a creep. Gilbert hangs out where movies that trick young girls into thinking unhealthy relationships are normal play so he can get girlfriends."
* '''Invoked''': Tammi wants to get a loyal lacky, so she tricks her boyfriend into thinking she's helpless and needs love and loyalty.
** Charlie wants to break up Gilbert and Tammi, so he tricks Tammi into thinking Gilbert is trying to make emotionally fragile.
* '''Exploited''': Charlie knows Tammi/Gilbert like manipulate others into having this kind of relationship. So he tricks them into dating each other knowing they are incompatible kinds of Giver and Taker.
* '''Defied''': Despite having manipulative and submissive tendencies, both Tammi and Gilbert try very hard not to use each other and see a therapist.
* '''Discussed''': "Why is it they're together? Surely such a relationship will only end in tears and blood."
* '''Conversed''': "Wow, if it weren't for ThereAreNoTherapists ''both of these people would be in an institution."''
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