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** And there's one moment even ''after'' they become her friend: They have an unusual idea of snowball fights: For one, the snowballs are the size of basketballs, for two, in their game, "Ping" doesn't know that the four of them are having a snowball fight, three, they all quite literally sneak up n "him" and, before the song cuts off, are just in the middle of smashing three basketball-sized chunks of snow over Mulan's head...at the same time. Again, this is after they've become Mulan's friend-this is their idea of a ''[[DeadlyPrank joke]]''?.

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** And there's one moment even ''after'' they become her friend: They have an unusual idea of snowball fights: For one, the snowballs are the size of basketballs, for two, in their game, "Ping" doesn't know that the four of them are having a snowball fight, three, they all quite literally sneak up n "him" and, before the song cuts off, are just in the middle of smashing three basketball-sized tightly-packed chunks of snow over Mulan's head...at the same time. Again, this is after they've become Mulan's friend-this allies-this is their idea of a ''[[DeadlyPrank joke]]''?.
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** And there's one moment even ''after'' they become her friend: They have an unusual idea of snowball fights: For one, the snowballs are the size of basketballs, for two, in their game, "Ping" doesn't know that the four of them are having a snowball fight, three, they all quite literally sneak up n "him" and, before the song cuts off, are just in the middle of smashing three basketball-sized chunks of snow over Mulan's head...at the same time. Again, this is after they've become Mulan's friend, and this is their idea of a ''[[DeadlyPrank joke]]''.

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** And there's one moment even ''after'' they become her friend: They have an unusual idea of snowball fights: For one, the snowballs are the size of basketballs, for two, in their game, "Ping" doesn't know that the four of them are having a snowball fight, three, they all quite literally sneak up n "him" and, before the song cuts off, are just in the middle of smashing three basketball-sized chunks of snow over Mulan's head...at the same time. Again, this is after they've become Mulan's friend, and this friend-this is their idea of a ''[[DeadlyPrank joke]]''.
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** Yao gets a special mention before becoming Mulan's friend: He has some pretty ''nasty'' expressions before inflicting pain on someone else, like that evil smile he got when another recruit was innocent, if naively, believing that a tattoo would protect him from harm-he wasn't mad, he just saw an opportunity t hurt someone and he did very clearly enjoy it. Ling, too, has no sympathy for the other man's misfortune.
** Also, when Shang has Mulan standing on the edge of a cliff, as a training idea of Shang, Yao, Ling, and Chien Po are chosen to throw rocks at her. Chien Po seems disturbed, but the looks that Yao and Ling have at the idea of potentially killing her "accidentally" are downright sadistic.


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** Yao gets a special mention before becoming Mulan's friend: He has some pretty ''nasty'' expressions before inflicting pain on someone else, like that evil smile he got when another recruit was innocent, innocently, if naively, believing that a tattoo would protect him from harm-he wasn't mad, he just saw an opportunity t hurt someone and he did very clearly enjoy it. Ling, too, has no sympathy for the other man's misfortune.
*** So what is Yao like when he ''is'' angry? Well, if he even ''thinks'' you insulted him, like mistaking Mushu's limp noodle remark? He gets consumed with rage and quite literally tries to beat the living daylights out of her.
*** And even his friends aren't safe-Mulan ducks and Yao is s blinded by fury that fr a full few seconds he is pummeling Ling instead.
*** His tranquil fury is far less scary but just as potent-when Ling sarcastically calls him "some King f the Rock"
''After they have clambered out of the water thinking that poisonous snake is in it'' Yao shoves Ling back in-it's your call whether Yao forgot that they were avoiding the water like the plague because of the "poisonous snake" that in his haste to get back at Ling or he was just ''that'' mad, but neither one does any favors for his character.
** Also, when Shang has Mulan standing on the edge of a cliff, as a training idea of Shang, his, Yao, Ling, and Chien Po are chosen to throw rocks at her. Chien Po seems disturbed, but the looks that Yao and Ling have at the idea of potentially killing her "accidentally" are downright sadistic.
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** Yao gets a special mention before becoming Mulan's friend: He has some pretty ''nasty'' expressions before inflicting pain on someone else, like that evil smile he got when another recruit was innocent, if naively, believing that a tattoo would protect him from harm-he wasn't mad, he just saw an opportunity t hurt someone and he did very clearly enjoy it. Ling, too, has no sympathy for the other man's misfortune.
**Also, when Shang has Mulan standing on the edge of a cliff, as a training idea of Shang, Yao, Ling, and Chien Po are chosen to throw rocks at her. Chien Po seems disturbed, but the looks that Yao and Ling have at the idea of potentially killing her "accidentally" are downright sadistic.

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* Despite being protagonists, Mulan's friends can occasionally be disturbing:
** The bathing scene is a shining example of this; no matter ''how'' good their intentions were, any sixteen year old, male or female, would be quite disturbed if three older men they barely knew-and had only just a short time ago taken great pleasure in bullying them! suddenly barged into their secluded bath buck-naked and started acting unusually chummy with him/her. And they want the sixteen-year-old they barely know to climb up onto a very small rock, ''again'', naked, in very close proximity with the ring leader wh just made a show of flashing his genitalia into his/her face. How was Mulan/Ping supposed to know they're just genuinely immature as opposed to genuinely creepy? ''Yikes''.
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* The Matchmaker getting her dress on fire, while funny, is still quite violent and disturbing. Mulan dumps tea on the Matchmaker, extinguishing her, but the resulting look on [[NightmareFace matchmaker's face]], the tears and the already horrifying makeup is quite a horror. Not to mention her rage bordering on a nearly maniacal level.

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* The Matchmaker getting her dress on fire, while funny, is still quite violent and disturbing. Mulan dumps tea on the Matchmaker, extinguishing her, but the resulting look on [[NightmareFace matchmaker's face]], the tears and the already horrifying makeup is quite a horror. Not to mention her rage bordering on a nearly maniacal level.
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* The [[NightmareFace matchmaker's face]] after having the tea spilled on her, the tears and the already horrifying makeup.

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* The Matchmaker getting her dress on fire, while funny, is still quite violent and disturbing. Mulan dumps tea on the Matchmaker, extinguishing her, but the resulting look on [[NightmareFace matchmaker's face]] after having the tea spilled on her, face]], the tears and the already horrifying makeup.makeup is quite a horror. Not to mention her rage bordering on a nearly maniacal level.



* Chi-Fu ordering Shang to execute the exposed Mulan. Despite it being the law that women who join the army are sentenced to death, Yao, Ling, and Chien-Po are horrified and try to rush to defend Mulan, but Chi-Fu reminds them of the law and they can only watch. The look on Shang's face is cold and scary as he slowly and menacingly walks toward Mulan with the sword in his hand. Mulan closes her eyes, ready for death as Shang raises the sword... then flings it to the ground in front of her.

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* Chi-Fu ordering Shang to execute the exposed Mulan. Despite it being the law that women who join the army are sentenced to death, Yao, Ling, Ling and Chien-Po are horrified and try to rush to defend Mulan, but Chi-Fu reminds them of the law and they can only watch. The look on Shang's face is cold and scary as he slowly and menacingly walks toward Mulan with the sword in his hand. Mulan closes her eyes, ready for death as Shang raises the sword... then flings it to the ground in front of her.
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** As [[WebVideo/HonestTrailers Epic Voice Guy]] put it in the Honest Trailer for Mulan:
--->'''Epic Voice Guy:''' Good Lord, Disney! These were an actual people, not the [[Literature/LordOfTheRings Uruk-hai!]]
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** When he realizes Mulan is "The Soldier from the Mountains", he just tosses Shang aside like trash and heads towards her. That moment is terrifying already, but when he corners Mulan on the roof, his smile is that of a serial killer! You just know that he would've made her death a painful one.
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** "Besides, the little girl will be missing her doll. We should return it to her."

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** "Besides, "[[WouldHurtAChild Besides, the little girl will be missing her doll. We should return it to her."]]"
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*** Just the sheer ''implication'' of what he did to the nameless soldier who lit the signal flare that alerted all of China to his presence. Shan-Yu snaps a flagpole off its post, burns the flag in the fire and just ''grins'' while responding to the knowledge that his presence is known by quipping back [[BringIt "Perfect."]] We don't see what he does to the soldier, but he was burning the flag off of a ''very'' [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice sharp stick]]...
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* The avalanche, once Mulan triggers it. It wipes out most of the Huns, yes, but it also nearly wipes out Mulan's entire battalion. Shang has a moment to comprehend the danger before Mulan tries to pull him away. They and Khan get caught by the snowdrifts, while the rest of the battalion takes cover behind a rock. It's one of the few times "Ping" calls out to Shang in her real voice on seeing him unconscious and being carried away. If not for Yao shooting that arrow, and Mulan shooting it back in record time, she, Shang, Khan, Mushu and Cri-Kee would have fallen off the cliff. Even so, the safety rope nearly pulls Yao, Ling and the men off as well until Chien Po picks them up and walks backward. It's hard to blame Shang for afterward calling Ping "the craziest man I know."
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* Shan Yu's NoHoldsBarredBeatdown against Shang in the climax. Mulan's plan, after taking out the Huns guarding the palace doors, didn't account for Shan Yu being twice her Captain's body weight. While Shang puts up a good fight, Shan Yu defeats him with a head-butt and leaves him semiconscious.
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*** Unlikely. The real life Huns and some Mongols had an MO of burying their dead immediately after battle or some ritual (even taking the dead away for a proper funeral) and any way in real life after a victory as crushing as the one shown, even disorganized primitive armies like barbarian hordes have enough decency to pick up their dead for some ritual from the field (especially in a siege which the sack of the town was implied). Considering by the time they came all the buildings had long since been burnt and not a single survivor is found not even dead women, it can be implied the Huns had enough times to do their version of the last rites and even enslave the remaining civilian survivors. They didn't destroy most of the Chinese army either as recruitment and conscription has just been passed and other villages are still safe (thus implying local militia is being trained). Though they probably did destroy a fair chunk of the professional forces. Considering the nature of besieging even small towns with favorable terrain in real life can be difficult, Shang probably lost plenty of troops and had some difficulty but for story purposes they skimped over the actual events and in addition as I mentioned earlier they probably buried their casualties out of respect.
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*** Unlikely. The real life Huns and some Mongols had an MO of burying their dead immediately after battle or some ritual (even taking the dead away for a proper funeral) and any way in real life after a victory as crushing as the one shown, even disorganized primitive armies like barbarian hordes have enough decency to pick up their dead for some ritual from the field (especially in a siege which the sack of the town was implied). Considering by the time they came all the buildings had long since been burnt and not a single survivor is found not even dead women, it can be implied the Huns had enough times to do their version of the last rites and even enslave the remaining civilian survivors. They didn't destroy most of the Chinese army either as recruitment and conscription has just been passed and other villages are still safe (thus implying local militia is being trained). Though they probably did destroy a fair chunk of the professional forces. Considering the nature of besieging even small towns with favorable terrain in real life can be difficult, Shang probably lost plenty of troops and had some difficulty but for story purposes they skimped over the actual events and in addition as I mentioned earlier they probably buried their casualties out of respect.
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*** Even worse, he doesn't snarl those words or growl them. He asks them with utter nonchalance, a smirk plastered across his face as he does so. He knows what he's asking and simply doesn't ''care''.
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** The moment after that, after Mushu tries to comfort Mulan. It quietly cuts to a snowy mountainside, holding on it for a few eerily silent moments, then, ''WHAM!'', Shan-Yu's falcon soars back in with a determined look on its face, and then the [[OhCrap connection hits Mulan, Mushu and the audience]] [[NotQuiteDead like a ton of bricks]].

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** The moment after that, after Mushu tries to comfort Mulan. It quietly cuts to a snowy mountainside, holding on it for a few eerily silent moments, then, ''WHAM!'', Shan-Yu's falcon ''[[RaisedHandOfSurvival WHAM!]]'', Hayabusa soars back in with a determined look on its his face, and then the [[OhCrap connection hits Mulan, Mushu and the audience]] [[NotQuiteDead like a ton of bricks]].
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* Chi-Fu ordering Shang to execute the exposed Mulan. Despite it being the law that women who join the army are sentenced to death, Yao, Ling, and Chien-Po are horrified and try to rush to defend Mulan, but Chi-Fu reminds them of the law and they can only watch. The look on Shang's face is cold and scary as he slowly and menacingly walks toward Mulan with the sword in his hand. Mulan closes her eyes, ready for death as Shang raises the sword... then flings it to the ground. So, even though Shang spared Mulan's life, he did so at literally ''the last second.''

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* Chi-Fu ordering Shang to execute the exposed Mulan. Despite it being the law that women who join the army are sentenced to death, Yao, Ling, and Chien-Po are horrified and try to rush to defend Mulan, but Chi-Fu reminds them of the law and they can only watch. The look on Shang's face is cold and scary as he slowly and menacingly walks toward Mulan with the sword in his hand. Mulan closes her eyes, ready for death as Shang raises the sword... then flings it to the ground. So, even though Shang spared Mulan's life, he did so at literally ''the last second.''ground in front of her.



** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MkurYLnW9o The Huns crawling out of the snow like frigging zombies.]] While it's only Shan Yu and his elite (the credits directly call them that), it's still unsettling how these guys just. Won't. Die.

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** * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MkurYLnW9o The Huns crawling out of the snow like frigging zombies.]] While it's only Shan Yu and his elite (the credits directly call them that), it's still unsettling how these guys just. Won't. Die.
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--> '''Shang:''' Prepare to fight. If we die, [[DefiantToTheEnd we die with honor.]]

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--> '''Shang:''' Prepare to fight. If we die, [[DefiantToTheEnd we die with honor.]]]]
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** The Huns crawling out of the snow like frigging zombies. While it's only Shan Yu and his elite (the credits directly call them that), it's still unsettling how these guys just. Won't. Die.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MkurYLnW9o The Huns crawling out of the snow like frigging zombies. zombies.]] While it's only Shan Yu and his elite (the credits directly call them that), it's still unsettling how these guys just. Won't. Die.
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** The Huns crawling out of the snow like frigging zombies. While it's only Shan Yu and his elite (the credits directly call them that), it's still unsettling how these guys just. Won't. Die.
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** Shan-Yu has enough NightmareFuel on his own. And it's not just from the fact that Miguel Ferrer's performance being just so gravelly and husky that it gives you the chills.

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** Shan-Yu has enough NightmareFuel on his own. And it's not just from the fact that Miguel Ferrer's Creator/MiguelFerrer's performance being is just so gravelly and husky that it gives you the chills.
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* Chi-Fu ordering Shang to execute the exposed Mulan. Despite it being the law that women who join the army are sentenced to death, Yao, Ling, and Chien-Po are horrified and try to rush to defend Mulan, but Chi-Fu reminds them of the law and they can only watch. As Shang raises the sword, Mulan closes her eyes, ready for death. The look on Shang's face is cold and scary, as he raises the sword... then flings it to the ground. So, even though Shang spared Mulan's life, he did so at literally ''the last second.''

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* Chi-Fu ordering Shang to execute the exposed Mulan. Despite it being the law that women who join the army are sentenced to death, Yao, Ling, and Chien-Po are horrified and try to rush to defend Mulan, but Chi-Fu reminds them of the law and they can only watch. As Shang raises the sword, Mulan closes her eyes, ready for death. The look on Shang's face is cold and scary, scary as he slowly and menacingly walks toward Mulan with the sword in his hand. Mulan closes her eyes, ready for death as Shang raises the sword... then flings it to the ground. So, even though Shang spared Mulan's life, he did so at literally ''the last second.''
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** Shan-Yu has enough NightmareFuel on his own.

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** Shan-Yu has enough NightmareFuel on his own. And it's not just from the fact that Miguel Ferrer's performance being just so gravelly and husky that it gives you the chills.


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[[caption-width-right:350:Meet Shan-Yu]]

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*** And the scene cuts to black ''right there''! Burr...

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*** And the scene cuts to black ''right there''! Burr...Brr...
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* The aftermath of the Chinese army's rocket barrage against Shan Yu's forces. As the dust settles, there's Shan Yu astride his horse completely unharmed…and then he is joined by two of his lieutenants… and then they are joined by more… and more… and more. The music swells as it dawns on the Chinese Army (and the audience) that, for all their vaunted firepower, the Huns have literally just [[NoSell shaken off]] their best effort. If it wasn't for [[IndyPloy Mulan coming up with a ridiculously creative solution,]] the Huns would have won right there.
** As it dawns on Shang that this could be it, you can hear his voice cracking a little bit as he tries to maintain morale for his troops…even though he knows it's all over.

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* The aftermath of the Chinese army's rocket barrage against Shan Yu's forces. As the dust settles, there's Shan Yu astride his horse completely unharmed…and unharmed… and then he is joined by two of his lieutenants… and then they are joined by more… and more… and more. The music swells as it dawns on the Chinese Army (and the audience) that, for all their vaunted firepower, the Huns have literally just [[NoSell shaken off]] their best effort. If it wasn't for [[IndyPloy Mulan coming up with a ridiculously creative solution,]] the Huns would have won right there.
** As it dawns on Shang that this could be it, you can hear his voice cracking a little bit as he tries to maintain morale for his troops…even troops… even though he knows it's all over.

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