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* Running Man. There's a boss in [=MG2=] called ''[[FailOSuckyName Running Man]]''. And his skill is... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOntheTin running really fast]]. And he can be beaten in the most ludicrously mundane of fashions: putting mines on the floor that he's too stupid to get around, treading on one every time without fail. And, yes, his name [[Film/TheRunningMan is an Arnie reference]].

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* Running Man. There's a boss in [=MG2=] called ''[[FailOSuckyName ''[[AtrociousAlias Running Man]]''. And his skill is... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOntheTin running really fast]]. And he can be beaten in the most ludicrously mundane of fashions: putting mines on the floor that he's too stupid to get around, treading on one every time without fail. And, yes, his name [[Film/TheRunningMan is an Arnie reference]].
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* Also in the Gamecube version, we have Ocelot's face as he notices that his arm's been chopped off. It looks more like [[DreamworksFace the kind of face]] you'd see in a Creator/{{Dreamworks}} movie.

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* Also in the Gamecube version, we have Ocelot's face as he notices that his arm's been chopped off. It looks more like [[DreamworksFace the kind of face]] you'd see in a Creator/{{Dreamworks}} Creator/DreamworksAnimation movie.

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* This is the first game in the series to incorporate RagdollPhysics, which is used as you'd expect for knocked down and killed enemies. Except they're strangely floaty yet heavy at the same time; if someone gets sent flying by a grenade, their entire body visibly locks up as they ascend and then flop on their face, stiff as a rock before flattening out. Funny against the odd {{Mook}} or in online matches, absolutely ''hilarious'' when the most random of knockdown damage sends ''Snake'' hurtling onto his ass like a curled-up plank of wood. This even happens when he dies, resulting in a massive MoodWhiplash of the support team freaking out as his life flashes before his eyes while Snake just acts like he flops over, dead with rigor mortis in an instant.

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* This is the first game in the series to incorporate RagdollPhysics, which is used as you'd expect for knocked down and killed enemies. Except they're strangely floaty yet heavy at the same time; if someone gets sent flying by a grenade, their entire body visibly locks up as they ascend and then flop on their face, stiff as a rock before flattening out. Funny against the odd {{Mook}} or in online matches, absolutely ''hilarious'' when Snake's body doesn't ragdoll properly when he's knocked back by something, leading to his body rigidly falling to the most random of knockdown damage sends ''Snake'' hurtling onto his ass like a curled-up plank of wood. floor. This even happens when he dies, resulting in a massive MoodWhiplash of the support team freaking out as his life flashes before his eyes while Snake just acts like he awkwardly flops over, dead with rigor mortis in an instant.



* Snake's body doesn't ragdoll properly when he's knocked back by something, leading to his body rigidly falling to the floor. It's quite hilarious, actually.
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* This is the first game in the series to incorporate RagdollPhysics, which is used as you'd expect for knocked down and killed enemies. Except they're strangely floaty yet heavy at the same time; if someone gets sent flying by a grenade, their entire body visibly locks up as they ascend and then flop on their face, stiff as a rock before flattening out. Funny against the odd {{Mook}} or in online matches, absolutely ''hilarious'' when the most random of knockdown damage sends ''Snake'' hurtling onto his ass like a curled-up plank of wood. This even happens when he dies, resulting in a massive MoodWhiplash of the support team freaking out as his life flashes before his eyes while Snake just acts like he flops over, dead with rigor mortis in an instant.
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* The fully animated Briefing cutscene in ''The Twin Snakes''. It starts off fairly sedate, until Snake rather [[IncrediblyLamePun animatedly]] gestures and flails about while speaking in a manner well out of character for him. At one point, Snake leans on the waist high examining table after taking in a WhamLine, apparently unaware of how ridiculous he looks mooning the camera. Of course this was probably meant as [[MrFanservice fanservice]].

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* The fully animated Briefing cutscene in ''The Twin Snakes''. It starts off fairly sedate, until Snake rather [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} animatedly]] gestures and flails about while speaking in a manner well out of character for him. At one point, Snake leans on the waist high examining table after taking in a WhamLine, apparently unaware of how ridiculous he looks mooning the camera. Of course course, this was probably meant as [[MrFanservice fanservice]].
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* There's multiple boss fights where they just stay in their general area, waiting for Snake to come by so they can try to kill him -- and there's nothing stopping you from having a half-hour or longer diatribe of exploring other areas just to look for their weakness before you come back. This includes a man ''stuck in the walls'' so he can fling grenades at you, and an entire Hind-D assault chopper that stays in the air indefinitely.
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Quotes completely out of context, and if you as the player choose to put in a silly game, that's not the game having poor execution.


* "But ''WHY?!''"
* "I'm afraid of the night!"



* Raiden throwing away the dogtags that have the player entered information printed on them during the ending is supposed to be symbolic of him separating himself from the player and [[spoiler:make the player wonder if the person going through the S3 plan was Raiden or themselves]]. It's also good symbolism, of Raiden not letting himself be controlled by the player anymore, and of throwing away the identity the Patriots have forced on him... '''if''', unlike some players, you did not decide to abuse the HelloInsertNameHere potential by entering something like [[LetsPlay/ChipCheezum "Suck My Dick"]] or "Boner Patrol". Or, heck, something belonging to another in-game character. Adds a certain bit of confusion to Raiden's claim that he's never heard the name written on the tags before.
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What one scene? The reader has no idea because it's a dead link. Also it's association Narm assuming the player has seen some random youtube video.


* In Mission 12 ("Hellbound"), when [[spoiler: Skull Face shoves him down the stairs, Huey [[BringMyBrownPants pisses himself in terror]] when he lands]]. This would be fine (and [[TheDreaded appropriate]]) if that way it was animated didn't immediately bring that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfBxM7Mt5ww one scene]] from ''Metal Gear Awesome'' to mind.
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None of this seems like Narm. Putting your own music is player invoked and the timeline showing the events isn't unintentionally funny because "lots of people die." If you scroll through a timeline of any series, do you just laugh at all the names of the dead?


* In the PC version, you can put in your own custom music that will play in-game, which can cause severe SoundtrackDissonance during tense scenes.
** You can replace the helicopter's theme (played over its loudspeaker no less) with anything you like. And we do mean anything. How's about Morpho[=/=]Pequod coming in backed by "[[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse WE ARE THE CRYSTAL GEMS?]]" Even if the music file you use comprises of nothing but '''screaming'''. Like what Vinny of WebVideo/{{Vinesauce}} fame did. It's easy to think "[[WithCatlikeTread So much for a stealthy extraction]]" but nobody on the enemy's side is any bit the wiser.
* Both endings come with a timeline of events, both in-game and real life, showing what happened to cause the game's events and what happens afterwards. While this is clearly meant to be a sombre look at how dark and miserable the series is (and the real life wars and conflicts that are referenced throughout), it can be humorous to people who enjoy black comedy when you realise that it's basically a list of which characters die at some point or other...which is basically [[EverybodysDeadDave all of them]]. There's something darkly amusing about the game just hammering it in that everybody dies at some point or another, [[DiabolusExMachina because nothing and no one can ever be happy in this series]].
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This is player invoked, so it doesn't count. If I spend all my time in Skyrim picking flowers and customizing my house, that doesn't make the threat of Alduin suddenly Narm.


* The open-world layout can create Narm via tremendous MoodWhiplash on its own too. One minute you're witnessing the cold, brutal realities of war; the next moment you're tying balloons to sheep.
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** Just the fact that they justified her skimpy outfit by saying she "breathes through her skin". It comes across like a hamfisted attempt at trying to have their {{Fanservice}} and make it work in-story, only achieving something really awkward and silly.
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'''?:''' ''Uh... yeah.''

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'''?:''' ''Uh... yeah.''Nevermind about that.''
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** A later scene at the torture section has him [[GunTwirling twirl his revolver]] to look cool as per usual -- up until ''Twin Snakes'' adds hilarity to the scene by having him, of all people, ''[[EpicFail fumble his weapon to the floor]]''. Without even so much as a tweak to the scene's dialogue, he then points the gun at Snake after lifting it up [[YouDidntSeeThat as if pretending it didn't happen.]]

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** A later scene at the torture section has him [[GunTwirling twirl his revolver]] to look cool as per usual -- up until ''Twin Snakes'' adds hilarity to the scene by having him, of all people, ''[[EpicFail fumble his weapon to the floor]]''. Without even so much as a tweak to the scene's dialogue, he then points the gun at Snake after lifting it up [[YouDidntSeeThat as if pretending it didn't happen.]]]] This means to imply he's not as coordinated with his non-dominant hand.....until Snake Eater released eight months later showed he can masterfully twirl his guns ambidextrously.
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* While talking with Baker about the Metal Gear REX, Snake lets it slip that he's had [[CallBack experience with Metal Gears before]], to which Baker freaks out about how top-secret the project is and that there's no way he should even have met a Metal Gear. For newcomers, especially at the time, this is one of many scenes that refer to prior games that doesn't make much sense without either reading the previous game summaries in ''Solid'', or playing them yourself, and that's fine. But to series veterans, it becomes hilarious to realize Kenneth Baker, for all of his major arms company development cred and direct collaboration with the Pentagon, was completely and utterly left in the dark about how much he's completely and witlessly retreading from Snake's history.
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* The first boss fight in the second game is against Black Color/Black Ninja, who is an astronaut ninja. No, not someone who became a ninja and an astronaut separately. He was literally ''trained by NASA for ninja combat in space!'' Which also kicks off the franchise's running tradition of the American military making ninjas [[OncePerEpisode on a seemingly weekly basis]]. Perhaps it's just Kyle Schneider lying out of his ass for a villain backstory, though, which just makes it intentionally absurd.

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* The first boss fight in the second game is against Black Color/Black Ninja, who is an astronaut ninja. No, not someone who became a ninja and an astronaut separately. He was literally ''trained by NASA for ninja combat in space!'' Which also kicks off the franchise's running tradition of the American military making ninjas [[OncePerEpisode on a seemingly weekly basis]]. Perhaps it's just Kyle Schneider lying out of his ass for a villain backstory, though, which just makes it intentionally absurd.
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* The first boss fight in the second game is against Black Color/Black Ninja, who is an astronaut ninja. No, not someone who became a ninja and an astronaut separately. He was literally ''trained by NASA for ninja combat in space!'' Which also kicks off the franchise's running tradition of the American military making ninjas [[OncePerEpisode on a seemingly weekly basis]].

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* The first boss fight in the second game is against Black Color/Black Ninja, who is an astronaut ninja. No, not someone who became a ninja and an astronaut separately. He was literally ''trained by NASA for ninja combat in space!'' Which also kicks off the franchise's running tradition of the American military making ninjas [[OncePerEpisode on a seemingly weekly basis]]. Perhaps it's just Kyle Schneider lying out of his ass for a villain backstory, though, which just makes it intentionally absurd.
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* While talking with Baker about the Metal Gear REX, Snake lets it slip that he's had [[CallBack experience with Metal Gears before]], to which Baker freaks out about how top-secret the project is and that there's no way he should even have met a Metal Gear. For newcomers, especially at the time, this is one of many scenes that refer to prior games that doesn't make much sense without either reading the previous game summaries in ''Solid'', or playing them yourself, and that's fine. But to series veterans, it becomes hilarious to realize Kenneth Baker, for all of his major arms company development cred and direct collaboration with the Pentagon, was completely and utterly left in the dark about how much he's completely and witlessly retreading from Snake's history.
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** Nothing can top the absurdity of poisonous Zanzibar hamsters, but Yozef abruptly ending your call because the pizza man had just arrived provides the perfect silver lining to this particular cloud of Kojima mental flatulence. Hell, Yozef himself barely seems to care one jot about the incredibly serious situation his client Snake is in, as he also jokes about Snake being unable to find a burger joint in the battlefield when Snake tries to snag Marv's carrier pigeon. Maybe that's why a lot of people liked him... that and in the [=MSX2=] version he was [[ComicBookFantasyCasting literally]] Creator/DannyDevito.

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** Nothing can top the absurdity of poisonous Zanzibar hamsters, but Yozef abruptly ending your call because the pizza man had just arrived provides the perfect silver lining to this particular cloud of Kojima mental flatulence. Hell, Yozef himself barely seems to care one jot about the incredibly serious situation his client Snake is in, as he also jokes about Snake being unable to find a burger joint in the battlefield when Snake tries to snag Marv's carrier pigeon. Maybe that's why a lot of people liked him... that and in the [=MSX2=] version he was [[ComicBookFantasyCasting literally]] Creator/DannyDevito.Creator/DannyDeVito.
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** As one Youtube commenter said, "It sounds like [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka he's]] playing with a broken vibrator". Thanks a bunch for the mental image!

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** As one Youtube commenter said, "It sounds like [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka [[Creator/AkioOtsuka he's]] playing with a broken vibrator". Thanks a bunch for the mental image!
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* When Laughing Octopus is massacring the rebels, she uses her face-camo to mimic Snake's face, though she retains her real voice and doesn't do anything to conceal her body. Many players though the otherwise horrific cutscene was hilarious thanks to the presence of [[FanDisservice Old Snake's head on the body of a young woman.]]

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* When Laughing Octopus is massacring the rebels, she uses her face-camo to mimic Snake's face, though she retains her real voice and doesn't do anything to conceal her body. Many players though thought the otherwise horrific cutscene was hilarious thanks to the presence of [[FanDisservice Old Snake's head on the body of a young woman.]]
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** In the original, Ocelot BreakingTheFourthWall in warning the player not to use turbo can be pretty narmy on its own. ''Twin Snakes'' ups the ante by having Ocelot dramatically point at the screen while giving said warning.

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* ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' had "War has changed" being said repeatedly as a tagline for the game, but fell flat especially when seen or heard by the fans of ''Videogame/{{Fallout}}'' which, more subtly, preaches the opposite thing mellowly and only as a BookEnds to the beginning and end of each game, compared to this game where Snake says it at the end of every paragraph in his intro narration.
* Raiden whining that [[{{Wangst}} "It even rained the day I was born..."]]. That line's pure OTT emo whether or not it was rasped out matter-of-factly or shouted.
** Snake's response was arguably worse: "You've got it all wrong! You were the lightning in that rain! You can still shine through the darkness!" Careful Snake, you'll make [[HoYay Otacon jealous]]...
* The hilarious scene where Otacon breaks down in tears while watching [[spoiler:Naomi's]] final transmission. It would've been sad if he weren't clutching to his chest, of all the goddamn things in the world, a ''[[ProductPlacement MacBook Pro]]''.
* Gekkos. While it has its basis in Japan's history dating World War II, it's rather embarrassing that the [[DemonicSpiders toughest enemies in the game]] sound like cattle.
* Snake's impassioned heavenward cry of "LIIIIIQQQQQQQQUUUUUUUIIIIIIIDDDD!" during the final fight. The fact that it looks like he's crotch thrusting adds to it.
** Every other time he shouts the name, he grunts it out as fast as possible. "LIQID!"
* Raging Raven/Beauty's crazy speech that establishes her personal fears and psychoses is ruined by one line: "The Ravens are pecking at my flesh! And my soul!" The speech is perfectly fine and disturbing otherwise.
** Her screaming out [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry "RAAAAAAAGE! RAAAAAAAAAGE!"]].
** Whereas Laughing Beauty's speech is ruined right at the outset, as it begins with "I...am an octopus. An EIGHT LEGGED BEAST!"
** There's also the part right after where she vomits ink. It would have been perfectly acceptable if she didn't keep vomiting for like five or six seconds straight without her stopping for breath or, indeed, without the ink-vomit ever receding.
** Also during Raging Raven's fight, when you manage to get her out of her robotic suit, she begins ranting, and it's kind of creepy. Then you get an R1 (first person view during cutscene) moment when she turns away from Snake, ''and he's looking directly at her well-shaped but fucking crazy ass''.
* The backstories of the members of the Beauty and the Beast Unit were too over the top to take seriously. Except for Crying Wolf's and Raging Raven's.
** Laughing Octopus's story ''is'' perfectly creepy if you [[MST3KMantra just roll with it]] (hey, theoretically, it ''could'' happen). And then comes the bit about the spilled blood of the torture victims turning ink black. You-u-u lost me there, Drebin.
** Some can't help but to laugh after hearing some of their backstories, simply because they were so implausible; Drebin's over-dramatic delivery just heightened the Narm. One almost expects more melodramatic things from them.
--->"She had a doll, a doll she loved. And one day the soldiers came and raped the doll. The pain was so great, the doll caught fire. ''And then it exploded.'' The explosion burned down her village, and killed her grandmother. And to this day, she carries the ashes of that doll. ''That,'' Snake, is why she's a crazy overpowered Fembot."
** The inherent seriousness of the situation and the somber music just added to the Narminess.
*** See [[http://thesnakesoup.org/editorial-articles/the-5-dumbest-moments-in-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots/ here]] for a Drebin Mad Libs generator.
** Octopus's backstory revolving around a cult that kills people for eating octopus is based on a [[DeadUnicornTrope commonly-repeated but untrue Japanese factoid about Westerners not eating octopus because they associate it with the Devil]]. Since this idea isn't even known about in the West, most Western players found her backstory to be baffling, surreal nonsense.
* The B&B Unit in general. They're a squad of ''weaponized furries''.
** Their little imaginary companions? [[MemeticMutation Tulpas.]]
* When [[spoiler:Naomi dies]], what would have been an extraordinarily sad scene is ruined because [[spoiler:Otacon is present in the form of a little robot that flails in a cutesy manner as Otacon is crying.]]
** Her [[spoiler: dying words]] are spoken outside the hearing range of Otacon and Snake.
*** [[spoiler:''"Hey, come back you bastards, I'm not finished dying yet!"'' Snake and Otacon have a big emotional moment and drive off into the sunset together before she even ''lost consciousness''!]] Charming.
*** What is just plain silly is how, the moment her nanomachines are suppressed, the cancer kills her. ''Super cancer to the rescue!''
*** Worse than that: nanomachines, which the game consistently assigns near magically omnipotent properties - they allow Vamp to get back up less than two minutes after getting [[BoomHeadshot his brain scrambled by a 5.56]] and in a later game they're able to ''reattach a recently-severed limb'' simply by placing it back over the stump - somehow could only "hold back" the cancer, rather than kill the cancerous cells and cure it entirely.
** What killed the scene was [[ChewingTheScenery how hammy she was being as she died]]. It's like Snake and Otacon were unaware that she was dying so she ''forced'' them to pay attention to her.
*** Not to mention Otacon's hamminess. Bear in mind, this was a woman he'd recently met and slept with one time. If anything killed the scene, it was him sobbing, "Just when I was ready to love again!" Bonus because this has the effect of reminding the player of the narm in Otacon's ''other'' "girlfriends'" deaths.
** [[spoiler:Rather than reflexively reaching out toward the dying Naomi, Otacon must be using the unquestionably complex remote controls to manipulate the robot into a simulation of a simple human gesture.]] It kills the drama when it is understood that the character, by necessity, must be making a conscious and complicated effort to create the appearance of an instinctive human reaction.
* Examples of Narm that happen repeatedly:
## Meryl mentions "the System."
## [[ParrotExposition Snake says "huh?" or repeats what was said back.]] (If a coin was given to charity every time he said "huh?" then there would be no need for charity anymore).
## Snake [[SingleIssueWonk continues insisting across the first two acts]] that every single bit of WorldBuilding exposition is in some way related to the Patriots, even as everyone he espouses this to starts treating him like an obsessed looney for it. The fact that he turns out to be right ''on every count'' does little to assuage this.
* The whole scene with [[spoiler:one-armed Raiden illogically deciding to hold a WARSHIP IN PLACE (so it wouldn't crush Snake) when he could have (considering his implied strength at this point) picked up Snake and taken him to safety]].
** Not to mention that [[spoiler:the ship was going through concrete. No matter how powerful or durable Raiden's cyborg body is supposed to be, putting it between the ship and the dock wouldn't stop the ship from going forward. At best Raiden would be unharmed but the ground beneath his feet would keep getting destroyed. You don't need to know much anything about physics for this to realize that immediately. And this is if we ignore how fricking ridiculous the idea of anything man-sized being able to stop a damn tanker is in the first place]]. There are cool breaks from reality, then there're suspension-of-disbelief-shattering breaks from reality. Yours is made of steel if it didn't break into laughter at that point.
* Then there is the cutscene immediately preceding [[spoiler:the final [[FisticuffsBoss hand-to-hand battle]] between Old Snake and Ocelot: while the beginning of the cutscene and the interactive portion of the battle keep two geezers beating the crap out of each other outside the realm of Narm, it goes completely to hell once Snake collapses and has to use his syringe to get back on his feet. After some more fighting, Ocelot collapses and uses another syringe to get back up. After some more fighting, ''both'' men collapse and use their respective syringes at the same time. Then after some ''more'' fighting they collapse on each other and ''stab each other'' with the syringes. Yeah, don't try this at home, kids.]]
** [[spoiler:While most of the fight choreography was pretty solid, there were two moments that make people giggle with insane glee. The first is a birds-eye-view of Liquid whaling on Snake. [[OverlyLongGag Too much emphasis, maybe?]] The second is a bizarre cross body block from Snake that suggests he graduated from the WWE school of CQC (which, predictably, Ocelot counters by... catching him).]]
** Seriousness dies when Ocelot kisses Snake for some reason in the middle of the fight while romantic music plays. It even gets you a trophy!
* During the microwave scene, Snake's [[MrFanservice prominent]] [[ThongOfShielding buttocks]] ''glow''.
** His entire Octo-Camo was glowing; the color was fleshlike enough to make it seem that Snake was in a bunch of [[TooManyBelts leather straps]].
** Speaking of the microwave hallway, that whole sequence was incredibly dramatic until the PIP screen cut to Sunny dancing in front of her stove because she finally cooked an egg on her own properly.
** [[WebVideo/IsItAGoodIdeaToMicrowaveThis "Is it a good idea to microwave this?"]]
* Snake describing the Outer Haven ship as a '[[Franchise/StarWars Death Star]].'
* Naomi's final speech. "We wished to free the captured foxes. To let them run free in the wild." Especially considering she's standing in front of ''birds''.

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* ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' had "War has changed" being said repeatedly as a tagline for the game, but fell flat especially when seen or heard by the fans of ''Videogame/{{Fallout}}'' which, more subtly, preaches the opposite thing mellowly and only as a BookEnds to the beginning and end of each game, compared to this game where Snake says it at the end of every paragraph in his intro narration.
* Raiden whining that [[{{Wangst}} "It even rained the day I was born..."]]. That line's pure OTT emo whether or not it was rasped out matter-of-factly or shouted.
** Snake's response was arguably worse: "You've got it all wrong! You were the lightning in that rain! You can still shine through the darkness!" Careful Snake, you'll make [[HoYay Otacon jealous]]...
* The hilarious scene where Otacon breaks down in tears while watching [[spoiler:Naomi's]] final transmission. It would've been sad if he weren't clutching to his chest, of all the goddamn things in the world, a ''[[ProductPlacement MacBook Pro]]''.
* Gekkos. While it has its basis in Japan's history dating World War II, it's rather embarrassing that the [[DemonicSpiders toughest enemies in the game]] sound like cattle.
* Snake's impassioned heavenward cry of "LIIIIIQQQQQQQQUUUUUUUIIIIIIIDDDD!" during the final fight. The fact that it looks like he's crotch thrusting adds to it.
** Every other time he shouts the name, he grunts it out as fast as possible. "LIQID!"
* Raging Raven/Beauty's crazy speech that establishes her personal fears and psychoses is ruined by one line: "The Ravens are pecking at my flesh! And my soul!" The speech is perfectly fine and disturbing otherwise.
** Her screaming out [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry "RAAAAAAAGE! RAAAAAAAAAGE!"]].
** Whereas Laughing Beauty's speech is ruined right at the outset, as it begins with "I...am an octopus. An EIGHT LEGGED BEAST!"
** There's also the part right after where she vomits ink. It would have been perfectly acceptable if she didn't keep vomiting for like five or six seconds straight without her stopping for breath or, indeed, without the ink-vomit ever receding.
** Also during
During Raging Raven's fight, when once you manage to get her out of her robotic suit, she begins ranting, and it's kind of creepy. ranting a MadnessMantra. Then you get an a prompt to press R1 (first person view during cutscene) cutscene), and doing so at the moment when she turns away from Snake, ''and he's looking directly at her well-shaped but fucking crazy ass''.
* The backstories of the members of the Beauty and the Beast Unit were too over the top to take seriously. Except for Crying Wolf's and Raging Raven's.
** Laughing Octopus's story ''is'' perfectly creepy if you [[MST3KMantra just roll with it]] (hey, theoretically, it ''could'' happen). And then comes the bit about the spilled blood of the torture victims turning ink black. You-u-u lost me there, Drebin.
** Some can't help but to laugh after hearing some of their backstories, simply because they were so implausible; Drebin's over-dramatic delivery just heightened the Narm. One almost expects more melodramatic things from them.
--->"She had a doll, a doll she loved. And one day the soldiers came and raped the doll. The pain was so great, the doll caught fire. ''And then it exploded.'' The explosion burned down her village, and killed her grandmother. And to this day, she carries the ashes of that doll. ''That,'' Snake, is why she's a crazy overpowered Fembot."
** The inherent seriousness of the situation and the somber music just added to the Narminess.
*** See [[http://thesnakesoup.org/editorial-articles/the-5-dumbest-moments-in-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots/ here]] for a Drebin Mad Libs generator.
** Octopus's backstory revolving around a cult that kills people for eating octopus is based on a [[DeadUnicornTrope commonly-repeated but untrue Japanese factoid about Westerners not eating octopus because they associate it with the Devil]]. Since this idea isn't even known about in the West, most Western players found her backstory to be baffling, surreal nonsense.
* The B&B Unit in general. They're a squad of ''weaponized furries''.
** Their little imaginary companions? [[MemeticMutation Tulpas.]]
* When [[spoiler:Naomi dies]], what would have been an extraordinarily sad scene is ruined because [[spoiler:Otacon is present in the form of a little robot that flails in a cutesy manner as Otacon is crying.]]
** Her [[spoiler: dying words]] are spoken outside the hearing range of Otacon and Snake.
*** [[spoiler:''"Hey, come back you bastards, I'm not finished dying yet!"''
Snake and Otacon have a big emotional moment and drive off into causes the sunset together before she even ''lost consciousness''!]] Charming.
*** What is just plain silly is how, the moment
camera to zoom in on her nanomachines are suppressed, the cancer kills her. ''Super cancer to the rescue!''
*** Worse than that: nanomachines, which the game consistently assigns near magically omnipotent properties - they allow Vamp to get back up less than two minutes after getting [[BoomHeadshot his brain scrambled by a 5.56]] and in a later game they're able to ''reattach a recently-severed limb'' simply by placing it back over the stump - somehow could only "hold back" the cancer, rather than kill the cancerous cells and cure it entirely.
** What killed the scene was [[ChewingTheScenery how hammy she was being as she died]]. It's like Snake and Otacon were unaware that she was dying so she ''forced'' them to pay attention to her.
*** Not to mention Otacon's hamminess. Bear in mind, this was a woman he'd recently met and slept with one time. If anything killed the scene, it was him sobbing, "Just when I was ready to love again!" Bonus because this has the effect of reminding the player of the narm in Otacon's ''other'' "girlfriends'" deaths.
** [[spoiler:Rather than reflexively reaching out toward the dying Naomi, Otacon must be using the unquestionably complex remote controls to manipulate the robot into a simulation of a simple human gesture.]] It kills the drama when it is understood that the character, by necessity, must be
butt, accidentally making a conscious and complicated effort to create the appearance of an instinctive human reaction.
* Examples of Narm that happen repeatedly:
## Meryl mentions "the System."
## [[ParrotExposition Snake says "huh?" or repeats what was said back.]] (If a coin was given to charity every time he said "huh?" then there would be no need for charity anymore).
## Snake [[SingleIssueWonk continues insisting across the first two acts]] that every single bit of WorldBuilding exposition is in some way related to the Patriots, even as everyone he espouses this to starts treating him like an obsessed looney for it. The fact that he turns out to be right ''on every count'' does little to assuage this.
* The whole scene with [[spoiler:one-armed Raiden illogically deciding to hold a WARSHIP IN PLACE (so it wouldn't crush Snake) when he could have (considering his implied strength at this point) picked up Snake and taken him to safety]].
** Not to mention that [[spoiler:the ship was going through concrete. No matter how powerful or durable Raiden's cyborg body is supposed to be, putting it between the ship and the dock wouldn't stop the ship from going forward. At best Raiden would be unharmed but the ground beneath his feet would keep getting destroyed. You don't need to know much anything about physics for this to realize that immediately. And this is if we ignore how fricking ridiculous the idea of anything man-sized being able to stop a damn tanker is in the first place]]. There are cool breaks from reality, then there're suspension-of-disbelief-shattering breaks from reality. Yours is made of steel if it didn't break into laughter at that point.
* Then there is
the cutscene immediately preceding [[spoiler:the final [[FisticuffsBoss hand-to-hand battle]] between Old Snake and Ocelot: while the beginning of the cutscene and the interactive portion of the battle keep two geezers beating the crap out of each other outside the realm of Narm, it goes completely to hell once Snake collapses and has to use his syringe to get back on his feet. After some more fighting, Ocelot collapses and uses another syringe to get back up. After some more fighting, ''both'' men collapse and use their respective syringes at the same time. Then after some ''more'' fighting they collapse on each other and ''stab each other'' with the syringes. Yeah, don't try this at home, kids.]]
** [[spoiler:While most of the fight choreography was pretty solid, there were two moments that make people giggle with insane glee. The first is a birds-eye-view of Liquid whaling on Snake. [[OverlyLongGag Too much emphasis, maybe?]] The second is a bizarre cross body block
go from Snake that suggests he graduated from the WWE school of CQC (which, predictably, Ocelot counters by... catching him).]]
** Seriousness dies when Ocelot kisses Snake for some reason in the middle of the fight while romantic music plays. It even gets you a trophy!
* During the microwave scene, Snake's [[MrFanservice prominent]] [[ThongOfShielding buttocks]] ''glow''.
** His entire Octo-Camo was glowing; the color was fleshlike enough
disturbing to make it seem that Snake was in a bunch of [[TooManyBelts leather straps]].
** Speaking of the microwave hallway, that whole sequence was incredibly dramatic until the PIP screen cut to Sunny dancing in front of her stove because she finally cooked an egg on her own properly.
** [[WebVideo/IsItAGoodIdeaToMicrowaveThis "Is it a good idea to microwave this?"]]
* Snake describing the Outer Haven ship as a '[[Franchise/StarWars Death Star]].'
* Naomi's final speech. "We wished to free the captured foxes. To let them run free in the wild." Especially considering she's standing in front of ''birds''.
hilarious.



* Two words: Mount Snakemore. Since it was Octocamo-generated, Liquid must have specifically asked for the ship's systems to generate the likeness of his old self, his dad, his brother and the third Snake child they all forgot about. Wow.
* When the time comes for Liquid Ocelot to demonstrate his "Guns of the Patriots" plan, his choice of executing it is without comparison: Using his fingers as guns and shouting "bang" a whole bunch. The scene where he uses his fingers as ''machine guns'', making machine gun noises as his troops waste the opposing armies, is the stuff of a thousand animated gifs.
* Ocelot's English performance in this game can be ridiculous when yells "BROTHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" It's a shame Creator/CamClarke couldn't return as Liquid, but dear god did Patric Zimmerman go beyond the call of duty to give players the ham they desired.
* The epilogues. Dear lord. If the endless ramblings about zeros and hundreds and whatever didn't make that part impossible to take seriously, then the "Like a scene from The Beauty and the Beast" line definitely killed the next one.
* The fight between Raiden and Vamp is intense and gripping. But think about it this way: Raiden and Vamp are in a swordfight that's causing Raiden to spray white bodily fluids everywhere.
** Speaking of which, why is Vamp ''always'' licking his knives even when there's no blood on them? When Vamp first captures Raiden, he stabs him in the chest and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything licks the "white blood" off the blade]]. Snake, who's currently aiming a sniper rifle to try and shoot one of Raiden's restraints off of him, has to [[ReactionShot take a moment]] to pull away from the scope and raise an eyebrow at that one.
** Even sillier is during the fight when Raiden ends up with two Gekko strapping wires to his feet, he starts breakdance-spin-kicking on his head upside down whilst ''spinning said Gekko around''., The imagery is just plain ridiculous and so over the top anime that not laughing is impossible.
** Then there's Vamp, doing some kind of thing where he swivels his torso around and around even though it's doing nothing to keep the Geckos from hitting him.
* And of course, it just gets more obscene with the unlockables on the NewGamePlus, particularly the tuxedo and facecamo: You can [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FMV7XqRTVE watch Drebin talk to himself]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg9cx_EOcdY watch Otacon sneak around like James Bond]], and if you're good enough to get it, you can even see Snake replaced by [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYyf3vb6_aw the char-grilled corpse of Solidus]]]].
* "It's the [=FROGs=]!"
** The fact that they are called [=FROGs=] is narmy itself. Ocelot doesn't seem to have a lot of faith in his elite, private army if he's going to name them after an animal that are known to get eaten by snakes.
* Brilliant though the RAY fight is, one of the special attacks is a bit... unusual. There's an animation where REX jumps on top of a grounded RAY, then leaps off, bombarding RAY with lasers. Metal Gear REX's laser cannon is situated ''between his thighs''. One or both of them will probably be squealing while this is going on.
* Your [=iPod=] can cause severe SoundtrackDissonance, such as, in the first level, playing what is essentially ''elevator music'' while people are being murdered by Gekkos.
* Snake's body doesn't ragdoll properly when he's knocked back by something, leading to his body rigidly falling to the floor. It's quite hilarious, actually.
* The final appearance of armless Raiden (carrying his sword in his teeth) is already a bit narmy, let alone how he only saved Snake because all of the [=FROGs=] dropped their guns to advance at an excruciatingly slow pace toward the almost totally paralyzed enemy with their machetes. But it gets worse when the duo pause to have a bromantic, sappy scene about how Raiden still has his youth and should let Snake go through the microwave hallway....and the two remaining [=FROGs=] were standing just out of shot the whole time, staring at them.
* Whenever you beat the BB Corps' Beast forms, you then have to deal with their Beauty forms trying to hug you to death. What propels this into narm is if you try to run away from them, you can literally see them powerwalking towards you with their arms outstretched for a hug. It's ridiculous looking, they look more like comical hug-hungry zombies!
** It's stated that whatever happened to the BB Corps have left them completely reliant on their Beast suits as sort of life support, and if they're left outside of the suits for more than a couple minutes, they will die. Sure enough, this is represented in-game - through the medium of any Beauty-form fight, after a few minutes, randomly teleporting the both of you to the VR backdrop used to test weapons in, whereupon the BB in question will drop everything to pose for you if you look at her through the in-game camera or even ''dance'' if you play certain songs on Snake's iPod.
* Johnny during the Act 5 mission briefing. By this point it's already been established throughout the franchise that this Johnny is narm incarnate and even manages to bring out the narm in those around him, but attempting to cup Mei-Ling's buttocks with the subtlety of a boar in heat?
* When Laughing Octopus makes her face-camo appear as Snake's face - while the camo is a perfect representation of his face, she's not only using her real (albeit androgynous) voice, but she hasn't done anything to conceal her body. So what we have instead of a perfect Snake disguise is [[FanDisservice Old Snake's head on the body of a young woman with massive boobs.]] And this, somehow, tricks the soldiers into thinking Snake is their enemy - until he hands over a ration or two to one of them, which they take as enough to completely forgive him for a massacre.
* The amount of throaty SayMyName moments, coughing, hacking and gurgling that Snake does in this is just plain silly. Its almost to the point when one wonders if the reason Kojima didn't get Creator/DavidHayter back for MGSV was to spare his throat the damage. It affected poor David's Snake voice as far forward as Peace Walker too!
* In the scene where Ocelot ambushes Snake and Big Mama at the end of Act 3, she attempts to call out to him by rolling an apple towards him (in reference to their Adam and Eve codenames from a mission 50 years prior, nevermind that the apple motif was never touched on before now). His response is to pick it up and look at her like he changed his mind... only to dramatically crush the apple in his hand with a hilarious growl and drop it on the floor before going away. He wasn't even able to fully crush it, leaving most of it intact.
** Big Mama effectively defines this trope for the third act because of all the forced biblical references she makes, apparently to make up for the lack of them outside her ending narration in ''[=MGS3=]'', from the aforementioned apple popping up out of nowhere as she picks it up and declares it to "appropriately" be the "forbidden fruit", to her {{insisten|tTerminology}}ce that [[spoiler:the van they keep Big Boss' brain-dead body in]] is his "pyx" or his "Holy Ark".
* [[spoiler: The moment with Big Boss lamenting to Solid Snake over whether Zero hated him or not is immediately followed by Zero [[ToiletHumour urinating/defecating into his wheelchair toilet]].]]

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* Two words: Mount Snakemore. Since it was Octocamo-generated, Liquid must have specifically asked for the ship's systems to generate the likeness of his old self, his dad, his brother and the third Snake child they all forgot about. Wow.
* When the time comes for Liquid Ocelot to demonstrate his "Guns of the Patriots" plan, his choice of executing it is without comparison: Using by pretending his fingers as are guns and shouting "bang" a whole bunch. The scene where he uses his fingers as ''machine guns'', making machine gun noises as Though this leads to his troops waste wasting the opposing armies, is the stuff of a thousand animated gifs.
* Ocelot's English performance in this game can be
his mannerisms are too ridiculous when yells "BROTHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" It's a shame Creator/CamClarke couldn't return as Liquid, but dear god did Patric Zimmerman go beyond the call of duty to give players the ham they desired.
be taken seriously.
* The epilogues. Dear lord. If the endless ramblings about zeros and hundreds and whatever didn't make that part impossible to take seriously, then the "Like a scene from The Beauty and the Beast" line definitely killed the next one.
* The fight between Raiden and Vamp is intense and gripping. But think about it this way: Raiden and Vamp are in a swordfight that's causing Raiden to spray white bodily fluids everywhere.
** Speaking of which, why is Vamp ''always'' licking his knives even when there's no blood on them? When Vamp first captures Raiden, he stabs him in the chest and [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything licks the "white blood" off the blade]]. Snake, who's currently aiming a sniper rifle to try and shoot one of Raiden's restraints off of him, has to [[ReactionShot take a moment]] to pull away from the scope and raise an eyebrow at that one.
** Even sillier is during the
fight when Raiden ends up with two Gekko strapping wires to his feet, he starts feet. He counters by breakdance-spin-kicking on his head upside down whilst ''spinning said Gekko around''., around''. The imagery is just plain ridiculous and so over the top anime that not laughing is impossible.
** Then there's Vamp, doing some kind of thing where he swivels his torso around and around even though it's doing nothing to keep the Geckos from hitting him.
* And of course, it just gets more obscene with the unlockables on the NewGamePlus, particularly the tuxedo and facecamo: You can [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FMV7XqRTVE watch Drebin talk to himself]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg9cx_EOcdY watch Otacon sneak around like James Bond]], and if you're good enough to get it, you can even see Snake replaced by [[spoiler:[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYyf3vb6_aw the char-grilled corpse of Solidus]]]].
* "It's the [=FROGs=]!"
** The fact that they are called [=FROGs=] is narmy itself. Ocelot doesn't seem to have a lot of faith in his elite, private army if he's going to name them after an animal that are known to get eaten by snakes.
* Brilliant though the RAY fight is, one of the special attacks is a bit... unusual. There's an animation where REX jumps on top of a grounded RAY, then leaps off, bombarding RAY with lasers. Metal Gear REX's laser cannon is situated ''between his thighs''. One or both of them will probably be squealing while this is going on.
* Your [=iPod=] can cause severe SoundtrackDissonance, such as, in the first level, playing what is essentially ''elevator music'' while people are being murdered by Gekkos.
* Snake's body doesn't ragdoll properly when he's knocked back by something, leading to his body rigidly falling to the floor. It's quite hilarious, actually.
* The final appearance of armless Raiden (carrying his sword in his teeth) is already a bit narmy, let alone how he only saved Snake because all of the [=FROGs=] dropped their guns to advance at an excruciatingly slow pace toward the almost totally paralyzed enemy with their machetes. But it gets worse when the duo pause to have a bromantic, sappy scene about how Raiden still has his youth and should let Snake go through the microwave hallway....and the two remaining [=FROGs=] were standing just out of shot the whole time, staring at them.
actually.
* Whenever you beat the BB Corps' Beast forms, you then have to deal with their Beauty forms trying to hug you to death. What propels this into narm is if you try to run away from them, you can literally see them powerwalking towards you with their arms outstretched for a hug. It's hug, which is more ridiculous looking, they look more like comical hug-hungry zombies!
** It's stated that whatever happened to the BB Corps have left them completely reliant on their Beast suits as sort of life support, and if they're left outside of the suits for more
looking than a couple minutes, they will die. Sure enough, this it is represented in-game - through the medium of any Beauty-form fight, after a few minutes, randomly teleporting the both of you to the VR backdrop used to test weapons in, whereupon the BB in question will drop everything to pose for you if you look at her through the in-game camera or even ''dance'' if you play certain songs on Snake's iPod.
* Johnny during the Act 5 mission briefing. By this point it's already been established throughout the franchise that this Johnny is narm incarnate and even manages to bring out the narm in those around him, but attempting to cup Mei-Ling's buttocks with the subtlety of a boar in heat?
scary.
* When Laughing Octopus makes is massacring the rebels, she uses her face-camo appear as to mimic Snake's face - while the camo is a perfect representation of his face, she's not only using though she retains her real (albeit androgynous) voice, but she hasn't done voice and doesn't do anything to conceal her body. So what we have instead Many players though the otherwise horrific cutscene was hilarious thanks to the presence of a perfect Snake disguise is [[FanDisservice Old Snake's head on the body of a young woman with massive boobs.]] And this, somehow, tricks the soldiers into thinking Snake is their enemy - until he hands over a ration or two to one of them, which they take as enough to completely forgive him for a massacre.
* The amount of throaty SayMyName moments, coughing, hacking and gurgling that Snake does in this is just plain silly. Its almost to the point when one wonders if the reason Kojima didn't get Creator/DavidHayter back for MGSV was to spare his throat the damage. It affected poor David's Snake voice as far forward as Peace Walker too!
* In the scene where Ocelot ambushes Snake and Big Mama at the end of Act 3, she attempts to call out to him by rolling an apple towards him (in reference to their Adam and Eve codenames from a mission 50 years prior, nevermind that the apple motif was never touched on before now). His response is to pick it up and look at her like he changed his mind... only to dramatically crush the apple in his hand with a hilarious growl and drop it on the floor before going away. He wasn't even able to fully crush it, leaving most of it intact.
** Big Mama effectively defines this trope for the third act because of all the forced biblical references she makes, apparently to make up for the lack of them outside her ending narration in ''[=MGS3=]'', from the aforementioned apple popping up out of nowhere as she picks it up and declares it to "appropriately" be the "forbidden fruit", to her {{insisten|tTerminology}}ce that [[spoiler:the van they keep Big Boss' brain-dead body in]] is his "pyx" or his "Holy Ark".
* [[spoiler: The moment with Big Boss lamenting to Solid Snake over whether Zero hated him or not is immediately followed by Zero [[ToiletHumour urinating/defecating into his wheelchair toilet]].
woman.]]
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** A later scene at the torture section has him [[GunTwirling twirl his revolver]] to look cool as per usual -- up until ''Twin Snakes'' adds hilarity to the scene by having him, of all people, ''[[EpicFail fumble his weapon to the floor]]''. Without even so much as a tweak to the scene's dialogue, he then points the gun at Snake after lifting it up [[YouDidntSeeAnything as if pretending it didn't happen.]]

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** A later scene at the torture section has him [[GunTwirling twirl his revolver]] to look cool as per usual -- up until ''Twin Snakes'' adds hilarity to the scene by having him, of all people, ''[[EpicFail fumble his weapon to the floor]]''. Without even so much as a tweak to the scene's dialogue, he then points the gun at Snake after lifting it up [[YouDidntSeeAnything [[YouDidntSeeThat as if pretending it didn't happen.]]
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* Monsoon's speech about memes didn't exactly age very well. Memes are cultures spread from person to person, but in the present day are practically unanimously associated with funny images and videos on the internet. It can be quite difficult to take him seriously and can incite a few chuckles when someone mentions them in a serious conversation.
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* For the most part, DevelopersForesight as is standard for ''Metal Gear'', and will change small parts of the story if you decide to, for instance, rescue Paz first instead of Chico. However, if you bring Paz with you to Camp Omega's prison cells and then try to rescue Chico while carrying her, Snake will unceremoniously drop her to the ground with a loud thud as he enters cutscene mode.[[labelnote:*]]Alas, there is no cutscene where Chico moans how he got Paz killed [[FailedASpotCheck while she's lying right in front of him]].[[/labelnote]]

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* For the most part, DevelopersForesight [[DevelopersForesight the dev team thought of everything]] as is standard for ''Metal Gear'', and will change small parts of the story if you decide to, for instance, rescue Paz first instead of Chico. However, if you bring Paz with you to Camp Omega's prison cells and then try to rescue Chico while carrying her, Snake will unceremoniously drop her to the ground with a loud thud as he enters cutscene mode.[[labelnote:*]]Alas, there is no cutscene where Chico moans how he got Paz killed [[FailedASpotCheck while she's lying right in front of him]].[[/labelnote]]



* The short quasi-credits that play at the beginning and end of every single mission can start to feel like a giant RunningGag very quickly. It also has some odd combinations like "Starring (insert vehicle here)"

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* The short quasi-credits that play at the beginning and end of every single mission can start to feel like a giant RunningGag very quickly. It also has some odd combinations like "Starring (insert vehicle here)"here)".



* True to Kojima tradition, one of the cassette tapes you can unlock is just audio of a guard having an EXTREMELY loud bowel movement, which is both NauseaFuel and this trope.
** It gets even better. [[spoiler: If a guard is suspicious to your position and comes to check you out, [[ToiletHumor you can hide in a porta-potty and play the tape]] [[DevelopersForesight with an upgraded iDroid to drive them off.]]]]

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* True to Kojima tradition, one of the cassette tapes you can unlock is just audio of a guard [[ToiletHumor having an EXTREMELY loud bowel movement, movement]], which is both NauseaFuel and this trope.
** It gets even better. [[spoiler: If a guard is suspicious to your position and comes to check you out, [[ToiletHumor [[DevelopersForesight you can hide in a porta-potty and play the tape]] [[DevelopersForesight tape with an upgraded iDroid to drive them off.]]]]



** Christopher Randolph acted his heart out as Huey but it doesn't change the fact that Huey, when he's acting as his own defense attorney, sounds so much like a LargeHam that it's hard to take him seriously. Especially when he's practically blaming the frigging DOG for the Diamond Dogs' many problems.

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** Christopher Randolph acted his heart out as Huey but it doesn't change the fact that Huey, when he's acting as his own defense attorney, sounds so much like a LargeHam that it's hard to take him seriously. Especially when he's practically blaming the frigging DOG ''dog'' for the Diamond Dogs' many problems.



* Not even ''Metal Gear Solid Ghost Babel'' is immune. After killing the boss Marionette Owl, he says that he and his unit have vowed vengeance on 'Anonymous'. This was fine at the time; but with the rise of certain ImageBoards, [[HilariousInHindsight the effect is reminiscent of a certain FOX news broadcast.]] "His madness surpasses even my own," says Owl (the line was aimed at Black Arts Viper, but with how the dialogue is written it instead looks like it's directed at Anonymous). Considering Owl's FreudianExcuse was that he found the murdered, shredded body of his friend Laura as a child, you can understand he'd have such a hatred for a board full of trolling and {{Guro}}.

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* Not even ''Metal Gear Solid Ghost Babel'' ''VideoGame/MetalGearGhostBabel'' is immune. After killing the boss Marionette Owl, he says that he and his unit have vowed vengeance on 'Anonymous'. This was fine at the time; but with the rise of certain ImageBoards, [[HilariousInHindsight the effect is reminiscent of a certain FOX news broadcast.]] "His madness surpasses even my own," says Owl (the line was aimed at Black Arts Viper, but with how the dialogue is written it instead looks like it's directed at Anonymous). Considering Owl's FreudianExcuse was that he found the murdered, shredded body of his friend Laura as a child, you can understand he'd have such a hatred for a board full of trolling and {{Guro}}.
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* ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' had "War has changed" being said repeatedly as a tagline for the game, but fell flat especially when seen or heard by the fans of ''Videogame/{{Fallout}}'' which, more subtly, preaches the opposite thing mellowly and often as a BookEnds instead of a OncePerEpisode ArcWords.

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* ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' had "War has changed" being said repeatedly as a tagline for the game, but fell flat especially when seen or heard by the fans of ''Videogame/{{Fallout}}'' which, more subtly, preaches the opposite thing mellowly and often only as a BookEnds instead to the beginning and end of a OncePerEpisode ArcWords.each game, compared to this game where Snake says it at the end of every paragraph in his intro narration.



--->(''done in a husky, over-dramatic Drebin[=/=]Creator/KharyPayton impression'') "She had a doll, a doll she loved. And one day the soldiers came and raped the doll. The pain was so great, the doll caught fire. ''And then it exploded.'' The explosion burned down her village, and killed her grandmother. And to this day, she carries the ashes of that doll. ''That,'' Snake, is why she's a crazy overpowered Fembot."

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--->(''done in a husky, over-dramatic Drebin[=/=]Creator/KharyPayton impression'') "She --->"She had a doll, a doll she loved. And one day the soldiers came and raped the doll. The pain was so great, the doll caught fire. ''And then it exploded.'' The explosion burned down her village, and killed her grandmother. And to this day, she carries the ashes of that doll. ''That,'' Snake, is why she's a crazy overpowered Fembot."



** None of this makes the sheer ridiculousness of the scene any less. [[spoiler:The ship was going through concrete. No matter how powerful or durable Raiden's cyborg body is supposed to be, putting it between the ship and the dock wouldn't stop the ship from going forward. At best Raiden would be unharmed but the ground beneath his feet would keep getting destroyed. You don't need to know much anything about physics for this to realize that immediately. And this is if we ignore how fricking ridiculous the idea of anything man-sized being able to stop a damn tanker is in the first place]]. There are cool breaks from reality, then there're suspension-of-disbelief-shattering breaks from reality. Yours is made of steel if it didn't break into laughter at that point.

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** None of this makes the sheer ridiculousness of the scene any less. [[spoiler:The Not to mention that [[spoiler:the ship was going through concrete. No matter how powerful or durable Raiden's cyborg body is supposed to be, putting it between the ship and the dock wouldn't stop the ship from going forward. At best Raiden would be unharmed but the ground beneath his feet would keep getting destroyed. You don't need to know much anything about physics for this to realize that immediately. And this is if we ignore how fricking ridiculous the idea of anything man-sized being able to stop a damn tanker is in the first place]]. There are cool breaks from reality, then there're suspension-of-disbelief-shattering breaks from reality. Yours is made of steel if it didn't break into laughter at that point.
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* The first boss fight in the second game is against Black Color/Black Ninja, who is an astronaut ninja. No, not someone who became a ninja and an astronaut separately. He was literally ''trained by NASA for ninja combat in space!'' Which also kicks off the franchise's running gag of the American military making ninjas [[OncePerEpisode on a seemingly weekly basis]], sometimes at Area 51.

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* The first boss fight in the second game is against Black Color/Black Ninja, who is an astronaut ninja. No, not someone who became a ninja and an astronaut separately. He was literally ''trained by NASA for ninja combat in space!'' Which also kicks off the franchise's running gag tradition of the American military making ninjas [[OncePerEpisode on a seemingly weekly basis]], sometimes at Area 51.basis]].



* The DARPA Chief, Anderson, ([[spoiler:Or rather, Decoy Octopus]]) dies of an apparent heart attack right in front of Snake, complete with trying to voice his final words while clutching at Snake's shirt. After he falls to the ground, Snake takes his pulse, and simply says, "Huh. Dead." Funnily enough, Snake is justifiably freaked out in the codec conversation immediately afterward.

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* The DARPA Chief, Anderson, ([[spoiler:Or Anderson ([[spoiler:or rather, Decoy Octopus]]) Octopus]]), dies of an apparent heart attack right in front of Snake, complete with trying to voice his final words while clutching at Snake's shirt. After he falls to the ground, Snake takes his pulse, and simply says, "Huh. Dead." Funnily enough, Snake is justifiably freaked out in the codec conversation immediately afterward.



** The ''Twin Snakes'' "fix" is hindered by one thing probably making the scene a bit too over-the-top, though: disarmed of his weapon and straight in Wolf's sights, Snake suddenly ''leaps more than twice his entire body height to backflip'' onto the stock of his grounded rifle. He then catches the gun out of the air, does a full clockwise rotation for seemingly no reason, and then shoots Wolf before she can hit him a second later. Yes, he just [[MemeticMutation 360 no-scoped]] off a superhuman backflip that even had Wolf confused.

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** The ''Twin Snakes'' "fix" is hindered by one thing probably making the scene a bit too over-the-top, though: disarmed of his weapon and straight in Wolf's sights, Snake suddenly ''leaps more than twice his entire body height to backflip'' onto the stock of his grounded rifle. He then catches the gun out of the air, does a ''two'' full clockwise rotation counterclockwise rotations for seemingly no reason, and then shoots Wolf before she can hit him a second later. Yes, he just [[MemeticMutation 360 720 no-scoped]] off a superhuman backflip that even had Wolf confused.



** What makes it better/worse is that the very next two lines literally are as anime as they can be, with Gray Fox going on about he's "come from another world" to fight Snake and Snake assuming he wants revenge for something or other. ''TTS'' even gives us dramatic anime-style close-ups of their faces as they deliver these next two lines.

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** What makes it better/worse is that the very next two lines literally are as anime as they can possibly be, with Gray Fox going on about he's "come from another world" to fight Snake and Snake assuming he wants revenge for something or other. ''TTS'' even gives us dramatic anime-style close-ups of their faces as they deliver these next two lines.



** In the original, Snake stumbles upon Liquid and Ocelot chatting about their plans for activating the Metal Gear by [[CutsceneIncompetence accidentally running in front of the open door]] and then hiding, making you wonder how they missed that (though they did have a camera on him that he somehow [[FailedASpotCheck failed to notice]], so they knew the whole time anyway). In ''Twin Snakes'', they try to make Snake seem less like he bumbled into the scene by having him approach the door wearily.. and then ''somersault side-flip over the entire doorway'' for seemingly no reason other than to justify getting him to where he took cover in the original scene.
* When the guards go to knock out Snake, the original version has him down and out almost instantly. ''Twin Snakes'' has him get hit with a gun up the back of the head as the guards prep for a job well done-- and then he just [[DeathGlare turns and stares]] at the guy that did it as they [[OhCrap cower in sheer terror.]] And ''then'' he passes out seconds later, and, much like the altered Ocelot fail scene above, the scene moves on like it didn't change at all and like that guard [[BringMyBrownPants totally didn't shit himself]].

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** In the original, Snake stumbles upon Liquid and Ocelot chatting about their plans for activating the Metal Gear by [[CutsceneIncompetence accidentally running in front of the open door]] and then hiding, making you wonder [[FailedASpotCheck how they missed that that]] (though they did have a camera on him that he somehow [[FailedASpotCheck failed to notice]], notice in turn, so they knew the whole time anyway). In ''Twin Snakes'', they try to make Snake seem less like he bumbled into the scene by having him approach the door wearily..wearily... and then ''somersault side-flip over the entire doorway'' for seemingly no reason other than to justify getting him to where he took cover in the original scene.
* When the guards go to knock out Snake, the original version has him down and out almost instantly. ''Twin Snakes'' has him get hit with a gun up the back of the head as the guards prep for a job well done-- and then he just [[DeathGlare turns and stares]] at the guy that did it as they [[OhCrap cower in sheer terror.]] And And, after several seconds of him starting to slowly walk towards the guard that hit him, ''then'' he passes out seconds later, out, and, much like the altered Ocelot fail scene above, the scene moves on like it didn't change at all and like that guard [[BringMyBrownPants totally didn't shit himself]].



** Even worse is the dying guard that was immediately dead and fried in the original.. but gets back up in ''Twin Snakes'' panicking, trying to put his flames out as he approaches Snake for help. Snake summarily throat-punches the poor bastard, who falls over like a sack of potatoes and then dies ''and'' is put out a second later, like Snake has some sort of magic touch.

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** Even worse is the dying guard that was immediately dead and fried in the original.. but gets back up in ''Twin Snakes'' panicking, trying to put his flames out as he approaches Snake for help. Snake summarily throat-punches the poor bastard, who falls over like a sack of potatoes and then dies ''and'' is put out a second later, like Snake has some sort of magic touch.later by landing in the snow.



* '''The Best is Yet to Come''' is a beautiful song and gets effectively used in the game's more emotional scenes. Well, for the first few, anyway. It's used so many times in nearly every dramatic confrontation it feels obnoxious. To the point where whenever the operatic vocals start playing, it becomes funny instead, as if it were a RunningGag like a sitcom leading into a commercial with a joke and fading in its theme song.

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* '''The Best is Yet to Come''' is a beautiful song and gets effectively used in the game's more emotional scenes. Well, for the first few, anyway. It's used so many times in nearly every dramatic confrontation it feels obnoxious. To the point where whenever the operatic vocals start playing, it becomes funny instead, as if it were a RunningGag like comparable to a sitcom [[RunningGag leading into a every commercial break]] with a joke and fading in a snippet of its theme song.
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* The Otacon ending in the original game is poignant and has an air of tragedy about it since Snake failed to save Meryl, having him and Otacon climbing out of Shadow Moses with only the monologue about genetic fate by Naomi and the ending music going on in the background. ''Twin Snakes'' decided to liven it up for whatever reason by having Otacon repeatedly fall and stumble over himself like a complete and utter [[EpicFail dumbass]], in an attempt at comedy so horribly misplaced that it's hilarious ''because'' of the MoodWhiplash.
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* When Ocelot decides it's time to leave Volgin high and dry by forcing him to fight Snake mano-a-mano, he proceeds to call Volgin by his name instead of his rank with a bit of spite. Volgin then looks up to Ocelot in [[BerserkButton confused rage]] and goes, "''Vol-jin?!''" Besides being a LostInTranslation case of Ocelot using some MaliciousMisnaming to throw Volgin off of his game, the English dub makes it come off as Volgin either being offended at realizing everyone's calling him the wrong thing this entire time, or ''forgetting how to say his own name.''

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