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** ''See America Right'' (2002)
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** ''Who You Are'' (2014)
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* LyricalDissonance: "No Children" is a jaunty, upbeat song with the chorus line "I hope you die. I hope we both die."
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* LyricalDissonance: "No Children" is a jaunty, upbeat song with the chorus line "I hope you die. I hope we both die."" And the bouncy "Dance Music" starts with him running away from his stepfather, who's throwing a glass at his mother.
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* TheDeterminator : "Up the Wolves." "Alpha Desperation March." "Damn These Vampires." "Sax Rohmer #1"
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* TheDeterminator : "Up the Wolves." "Alpha Desperation March." "Damn These Vampires." "Sax Rohmer #1"#1." "This Year."
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* SlapSlapKiss: Some songs involving the Alpha couple you can't quite tell whether the lyrics are describing them trying to kill eachother, or having a vicious love session, or both.
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* SlapSlapKiss: Some songs involving the Alpha couple you can't quite tell whether the lyrics are describing them trying to kill eachother, or having a vicious love session, or both. Seen most notably in "Oceanographer's Choice".
* SpokenWordInMusic: Some of the older songs like Prana Ferox and Going to Bolivia include recordings at the beginning of people speaking.
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* SpokenWordInMusic: Some of the older songs like Prana Ferox and Going to Bolivia include recordings at the beginning of people speaking.
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* SpokenWordInMusic: Some StealthPun: Possibly an unintentional example, but "Orange Ball of Peace" works equally well if you hear the older songs like Prana Ferox and Going to Bolivia include recordings at the beginning of people speaking.chorus as, "I'm a fireman" or "I'm a fire, man".
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* CreatorBacklash: JD all but refuses to play some of the old songs, especially "Going To Georgia"; you can hear him talking about this on some live recordings.
** "Golden Boy" is always followed by a long speech about his hatred for the song.
** "Golden Boy" is always followed by a long speech about his hatred for the song.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Averted for two decades and counting.
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* OldShame: ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taboo_VI:_The_Homecoming Taboo VI: The Homecoming]]'' in parts, apparently.
* OneOfUs: John is an outspoken fan of video games, trashy TV and obscure death metal.
* OneOfUs: John is an outspoken fan of video games, trashy TV and obscure death metal.
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* ThrowItIn: The tape hiss and gear grind of the boombox era. The train passing by at the end of "Insurance Fraud #2."
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The aforementioned completed-but-unreleased ''Hail and Farewell, Gothenburg'' and ''West Texas Orphans''. ''Heretic Pride'' was going to be a concept album entirely about monsters. The album version of "Lovecraft in Brooklyn" was supposed to feature AesopRock rapping over the end; Aesop eventually released a remix.
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* WordOfGod: John was quick to clarify that "Marduk T-Shirt Men's Room Incident" was not from the perspective of a rapist.
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* ExtremeMeleeRevenge: In "Alpha Desperation March" and "Orange Ball of Peace" - after [[spoiler: one member of the Alpha Couple leaves]], the other [[spoiler: tries to hurt the one that left and take eight thousand dollars from him/her in the former song, and sets his/her house on fire in the latter.]]
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** ''Moon Colony Bloodbath - with John Vanderslice (2009)
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** ''Moon Colony Bloodbath Bloodbath'' - with John Vanderslice (2009)
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* BreakingTheFourthWall: Done brutally at the end of "Seed Song":
-->[[spoiler: And I know you're waiting for the ironic ending]]
-->[[spoiler: And I know you're waiting for the punchline]]
-->[[spoiler: And I know you're waiting for the rain to come by]]
-->[[spoiler: So am I]]
-->[[spoiler: And I know you're waiting for the ironic ending]]
-->[[spoiler: And I know you're waiting for the punchline]]
-->[[spoiler: And I know you're waiting for the rain to come by]]
-->[[spoiler: So am I]]
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* CreatorBacklash: JD all but refuses to play some of the old songs, especially Going To Georgia; you can hear him talking about this on some live recordings.
--> "Golden Boy" is always followed by a long speech about his hatred for the song.
--> "Golden Boy" is always followed by a long speech about his hatred for the song.
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* CreatorBacklash: JD all but refuses to play some of the old songs, especially Going "Going To Georgia; Georgia"; you can hear him talking about this on some live recordings.
--> ** "Golden Boy" is always followed by a long speech about his hatred for the song.
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** "Going to Georgia" is about a man who was about to kill himself over unrequited love, only for the woman he was in love with to stop him.
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I put all of the cassette-only releases into either the album section or the EP section - I thought this would make the list more comprehensible, but if anyone objects, we can rearrange it.
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[[folder:Discography]]
* Albums
** ''The Hound Chronicles'' (1992)
** ''Hot Garden Stomp'' (1993)
** ''Zopilote Machine'' (1994)
** ''Sweden'' (1995)
** ''Hail and Farewell, Gothenburg'' (1996)[[note]]Never officially released, but illegally leaked onto the internet in 2006.[[/note]]
** ''Nothing for Juice'' (1996)
** ''Full Force Galesburg'' (1997)
** ''The Coroner's Gambit'' (2000)
** ''All Hail West Texas'' (2002)
** ''Tallahassee'' (2002)
** ''We Shall All Be Healed'' (2004)
** ''The Sunset Tree'' (2005)
** ''Get Lonely'' (2006)
** ''Hectic Pride'' (2008)
** ''The Life of the World to Come'' (2009)
** ''All Eternals Deck'' (2011)
** ''Transcendental Youth'' (2012)
* [=EPs=]
** ''Taboo VI: The Homecoming'' (1991)
** ''Songs for Petronius'' (1992)
** ''Transmissions to Horace'' (1993)
** ''Chile de Árbol'' (1993)
** ''Taking the Dative'' (1994)
** ''Yam, the King of Crops'' (1994)
** ''Beautiful Rat Sunset'' (1994)
** ''Philyra'' (1994)
** ''Songs for Peter Hughes'' (1995)
** ''Songs About Fire'' (1995)
** ''Nine Black Poppies'' (1995)
** ''New Asian Cinema'' (1998)
** ''Isopanisad Radio Hour'' (1998)
** ''On Juhu Beach'' (2001)
** ''Devil in the Shortwave'' (2002)
** ''Jam Eater Blues'' (2002)
** ''Dilaudid EP'' (2005)
** ''Babylon Springs EP'' (2006)
** ''Satanic Messiah'' (2008)
* Demos
** ''Come, Come to the Sunset Tree'' (2005)
** ''Hectic Pride Demos'' (2008)
** ''The Life of the World in Flux'' (2009)
** ''All Survivors Pack'' (2011)
* Compilations
** ''Protein Source of the Future...Now!'' (1999) [[note]]Compiles all of ''Chile de Árbol''' ''Philyra''; ''Yam, the King of Crops''; the Mountain Goats' contributions to ''Why You All So Thief?''; and a few songs from other sources.[[/note]]
** ''Bitter Melon Farm'' (1999) [[note]]Compiles all of ''Transmissions to Horace'', ''Songs for Patronius'', ''Songs for Peter Hughes'', and a few songs from other sources.[[/note]]
** ''Ghana'' (1999) [[note]]Compiles all of ''Songs About Fire''; ''Orange Raja, Blood Royal''; ''Taking the Dative''; and a few songs from other sources.[[/note]]
** ''[=The Hound Chronicles/Hot Garden Stomp=]'' (2012) [[note]]As the name suggests, this release compiled ''The Hound Chronicles'' and ''Hot Garden Stomp''[[/note]]
* Collaborations
** ''Why You All So Theif?'' - with Simon Joyner (1994)
** ''Orange Raza, Blood Royal'' - with Alastair Galbraith (1995)
** ''Tropical Depression EP'' - with Furniture Huschle (1997)
** ''Bedside Recordings Vol. 1.2'' - with John Vanderslice (2003)
** ''Black Pair Tree EP'' - with Kaki King (2008)
** ''Moon Colony Bloodbath - with John Vanderslice (2009)
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* Albums
** ''The Hound Chronicles'' (1992)
** ''Hot Garden Stomp'' (1993)
** ''Zopilote Machine'' (1994)
** ''Sweden'' (1995)
** ''Hail and Farewell, Gothenburg'' (1996)[[note]]Never officially released, but illegally leaked onto the internet in 2006.[[/note]]
** ''Nothing for Juice'' (1996)
** ''Full Force Galesburg'' (1997)
** ''The Coroner's Gambit'' (2000)
** ''All Hail West Texas'' (2002)
** ''Tallahassee'' (2002)
** ''We Shall All Be Healed'' (2004)
** ''The Sunset Tree'' (2005)
** ''Get Lonely'' (2006)
** ''Hectic Pride'' (2008)
** ''The Life of the World to Come'' (2009)
** ''All Eternals Deck'' (2011)
** ''Transcendental Youth'' (2012)
* [=EPs=]
** ''Taboo VI: The Homecoming'' (1991)
** ''Songs for Petronius'' (1992)
** ''Transmissions to Horace'' (1993)
** ''Chile de Árbol'' (1993)
** ''Taking the Dative'' (1994)
** ''Yam, the King of Crops'' (1994)
** ''Beautiful Rat Sunset'' (1994)
** ''Philyra'' (1994)
** ''Songs for Peter Hughes'' (1995)
** ''Songs About Fire'' (1995)
** ''Nine Black Poppies'' (1995)
** ''New Asian Cinema'' (1998)
** ''Isopanisad Radio Hour'' (1998)
** ''On Juhu Beach'' (2001)
** ''Devil in the Shortwave'' (2002)
** ''Jam Eater Blues'' (2002)
** ''Dilaudid EP'' (2005)
** ''Babylon Springs EP'' (2006)
** ''Satanic Messiah'' (2008)
* Demos
** ''Come, Come to the Sunset Tree'' (2005)
** ''Hectic Pride Demos'' (2008)
** ''The Life of the World in Flux'' (2009)
** ''All Survivors Pack'' (2011)
* Compilations
** ''Protein Source of the Future...Now!'' (1999) [[note]]Compiles all of ''Chile de Árbol''' ''Philyra''; ''Yam, the King of Crops''; the Mountain Goats' contributions to ''Why You All So Thief?''; and a few songs from other sources.[[/note]]
** ''Bitter Melon Farm'' (1999) [[note]]Compiles all of ''Transmissions to Horace'', ''Songs for Patronius'', ''Songs for Peter Hughes'', and a few songs from other sources.[[/note]]
** ''Ghana'' (1999) [[note]]Compiles all of ''Songs About Fire''; ''Orange Raja, Blood Royal''; ''Taking the Dative''; and a few songs from other sources.[[/note]]
** ''[=The Hound Chronicles/Hot Garden Stomp=]'' (2012) [[note]]As the name suggests, this release compiled ''The Hound Chronicles'' and ''Hot Garden Stomp''[[/note]]
* Collaborations
** ''Why You All So Theif?'' - with Simon Joyner (1994)
** ''Orange Raza, Blood Royal'' - with Alastair Galbraith (1995)
** ''Tropical Depression EP'' - with Furniture Huschle (1997)
** ''Bedside Recordings Vol. 1.2'' - with John Vanderslice (2003)
** ''Black Pair Tree EP'' - with Kaki King (2008)
** ''Moon Colony Bloodbath - with John Vanderslice (2009)
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* ConceptAlbum: ''Sweden'', ''All Hail West Texas'', ''Tallahassee'', ''We Shall All Be Healed'', ''The Sunset Tree'', ''The Life of the World to Come''.
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* ConceptAlbum: ''Sweden'', ''All Hail West Texas'', ''Tallahassee'', ''We Shall All Be Healed'', ''The Sunset Tree'', ''The Life of the World to Come''.Come,'' and John Darnielle with John Vanderslice's "Moon Colony Bloodbath,"
--> Moon Colony Bloodbath: ''Some of the songs have something to do with a loose rock opera/'concept album' idea about organ harvesting colonies on the moon and the employees thereof, who spent their off months living in secluded opulence in remote American locations. Concepts like this are actually more fun when you abandon them but leave their traces kicking around, so that’s what we did.''
--> Moon Colony Bloodbath: ''Some of the songs have something to do with a loose rock opera/'concept album' idea about organ harvesting colonies on the moon and the employees thereof, who spent their off months living in secluded opulence in remote American locations. Concepts like this are actually more fun when you abandon them but leave their traces kicking around, so that’s what we did.''
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You can vote for the best songs [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/BestEpisode/TheMountainGoats here]].
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* EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys: "The Monkey Song."
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* AudienceParticipationSong: "No Children" (''"I hope we ALL die!"''), "Hand Ball," "Carmen Cicero," "Terror Song."
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* AudienceParticipationSong: "No Children" (''"I hope we ALL die!"''), "Hand Ball," "Carmen Cicero," "Terror Song."Song", "The Best Ever Death Metal Band In Denton".
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** Also, the entirety of the film version of "The Life Of The World To Come", which features Darnielle playing songs from the album in an empty auditorium, directed by Rian Johnson of {{Brick}} and TheBrothersBloom.
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** Also, the entirety of the film version of "The Life Of The World To Come", which features Darnielle playing songs from the album in an empty auditorium, directed by Rian Johnson of {{Brick}} and TheBrothersBloom.Creator/RianJohnson.
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spelling correction on Dinu Lipatti\'s name.
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* LonelyTogether: "Dinu Lapatti's Bones" demonstrates how dark this trope can be.
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* LonelyTogether: "Dinu Lapatti's Lipatti's Bones" demonstrates how dark this trope can be.
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* TheMasochismTango: The Alpha Couple are the ''epitome'' of this trope.
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Avert Word Cruft.
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* WordSaladLyrics: Averted, hard.
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* WordSaladLyrics: Averted, hard.Averted.
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* FormerChildStar: Seems to be a fascination of John Darnielle. "Song for Dana Plato" "The Autopsy Garland" "Tyler Lambert's Grave"
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* FormerChildStar: Seems to be a fascination of John Darnielle. "Song for Dana Plato" Plato", "The Autopsy Garland" Garland", "Tyler Lambert's Grave"Grave", "Harlem Roulette"...
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome: "But in the long tresses of your hair...I AM A BABBLING BROOOOOOOOOOOK"
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Cleanup project — only use this when it happens in-universe.
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--> -- "Going to Georgia", from ''Zopilote Machine''[[hottip:*:AndTheFandomRejoiced]]
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--> -- "Going to Georgia", from ''Zopilote Machine''[[hottip:*:AndTheFandomRejoiced]]
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* ShoutOut: The chorus of "Enoch 18:14" is cutscene dialogue from OdinSphere.
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* ShoutOut: The chorus of "Enoch 18:14" is cutscene dialogue from OdinSphere.''VideoGame/OdinSphere''.
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* IAmNotShazam: Even when performing solo, John will introduce himself with 'Hi, we're The Mountain Goats'.
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* SpokenWordInMusic: Some of the older songs like Prana Ferox and Going to Bolivia include recordings at the beginning of people speaking.
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* EpicSong: "The Best Ever Death Metal Band in Denton."
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* EpicSong: EpicRocking: "The Best Ever Death Metal Band in Denton."
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* WithFriendsLikeThese: Refered to in "Game Shows Touch Our Lives." ''"They say that friends don't destroy one another. What do they know about friends?"''
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** ''We Shall All Be Healed'' ends with "Quito" and "The Pigs That Ran Straightaway into the Water, Triumph Of". Both are songs of victory over addiction but account for the many who were not as lucky.
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** ''We Shall All Be Healed'' ends with "Quito" and "The Pigs That Ran Straightaway into the Water, Triumph Of". Both are songs of The former is about a speed freak planning out how everything's going to be better as soon as his luck changes while the latter is about victory over addiction addiction, but both account for the many who were not as lucky.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome: "But in the long tresses of your hair...I AM A BABBLING BROOOOOOOOOOOK"
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trope was renamed.
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* TheTropeSong: "Anti-Music Song." "The Black Ice Cream Song." "California Song." "Chinese Rifle Song." "Island Garden Song." "The Monkey Song." "Neon Orange Glimmer Song." "Pseudothyrum Song." "Shadow Song." "Song for an Old Friend." "Stable Boy Song." "Standard Bitter Love Song" #1-8. "Song for Cleomenes," "Song for Dana Plato," "Song for Dennis Brown," "Song for Lonely Giants," "Song for My Stepfather," "Song for the Julian Calendar," "Song for Tura Santana"...
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* TheTropeSong: TheSomethingSong: "Anti-Music Song." "The Black Ice Cream Song." "California Song." "Chinese Rifle Song." "Island Garden Song." "The Monkey Song." "Neon Orange Glimmer Song." "Pseudothyrum Song." "Shadow Song." "Song for an Old Friend." "Stable Boy Song." "Standard Bitter Love Song" #1-8. "Song for Cleomenes," "Song for Dana Plato," "Song for Dennis Brown," "Song for Lonely Giants," "Song for My Stepfather," "Song for the Julian Calendar," "Song for Tura Santana"...
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Completely Missing The Point is an in-universe comedy trope. It is not for complaining about things you don\'t like or people missing the point of something in general.
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* CompletelyMissingThePoint: For the first decade-and-a-half of his career, virtually all of John's songs were fictional, but he still got lumped in with confessional singer-songwriters. Two explicitly autobiographical albums in the 00's only muddied the waters.
** Some people think the songs on ''Tallahassee'' are ironic love songs. Um, no.
** Some people think the songs on ''Tallahassee'' are ironic love songs. Um, no.
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* AngryMobSong: Inverted by "If You See Light," where the narrator is ''hiding'' from a mob.
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* AngryMobSong: Inverted by "If You See Light," where the narrator is ''hiding'' from a mob, and in "Heretic Pride," in which the narrator is being killed by an angry mob.
