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* SequelFirst: For some reason, the American leg of the ''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' tour was scheduled to happen before the album itself had even been released in the US. The band ended up playing the entirety of the album to audiences who hadn't heard it yet and certainly weren't expecting [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible anything like that]].

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* SequelFirst: For some reason, Due to a late injury to Steve Hackett during rehearsals and the necessary switching of venue dates that followed, the American leg of the ''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' tour was scheduled to happen before the album itself had even been released in the US. The band ended up playing the entirety of the album to audiences who hadn't heard it yet and certainly weren't expecting [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible anything like that]].
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** Arguments over included songs and lyrics. The other members of the band would occasionally rewrite lyrics to better fit their music, and Gabriel wrote several songs on his own (to bridge already-written sections) without the rest of the band's input (one of them, "The Carpet Crawlers", would be a live staple for the post-Gabriel band). Gabriel also ran into writer's block with "The Light Lies Down On Broadway", leaving Banks and Rutherford to write the music.

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** Arguments over included songs and lyrics. The other members of the band would occasionally rewrite Gabriel's lyrics to better fit their music, and Gabriel wrote several songs on his own (to bridge already-written sections) without the rest of the band's input (one of them, "The Carpet Crawlers", would be a live staple for the post-Gabriel band). Gabriel also ran into writer's block with "The Light Lies Down On Broadway", leaving Banks and Rutherford to write the music.both music and lyrics.



** Due to stress from being creatively sidelined on the album and his own failing marriage, Steve Hackett snapped a wineglass in his hand shortly before the start of the tour, injuring his hand and delaying the start of the tour. This meant the first wing performed was the American wing, where the album hadn't been released yet. Ticket sales went "meh." Hackett would record his first solo album shortly after the tour, and leave the band within two years.

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** Due to stress from being creatively sidelined on the album and his own failing marriage, Steve Hackett snapped a wineglass in his hand shortly before the start of the tour, injuring tendons in his hand thumb and delaying the start of the tour. This After some juggling of venue dates, this meant the first wing performed was the American wing, where the album hadn't been released yet. Ticket sales went "meh." Hackett would record his first solo album shortly after the tour, and leave the band within two years.

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* MindScrewdriver: the story that Gabriel wrote for the liner notes. It still doesn't explain everything, though. For that, see [[http://www.bloovis.com/music/lamb.html this site]].
** That site doesn't explain everything, either. Face it, [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible it is inexplicable]].

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* MindScrewdriver: the story that Gabriel wrote for the liner notes. It still doesn't explain everything, though. For that, see [[http://www.bloovis.com/music/lamb.html this site]].
** That site doesn't explain everything, either. Face it, [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible it is inexplicable]].
site]] might help...probably.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Both the album itself and the surreal, fantastical stage show that resulted. Genesis, as (mostly) former boarding school students, were in fact one of rock's ''least'' intoxicated bands of their time, and were not normally followers of the rock and roll lifestyle (though they were possibly not entirely untouched by drugs or alcohol in their lives). Gabriel often jokes of the band rebelling by "removing the paper covers of the soap at the hotel" in the middle of the night.
** Phil Collins claims that as the Lamb tour dragged on and on, he eventually took to getting stoned backstage before going on -- he specifically chose to smoke grass because, unlike booze, it had no noticeable effect on his drumming.
*** Phil helped write and arrange some of the music for ''The Lamb'' along with the other Genesis members, but PeterGabriel (by his insistence) wrote all of the lyrics and concept, save for "The Light Dies Down On Broadway", which Tony wrote the words for when Peter got writer's block. Gabriel was, for the most part, drug-free.
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* GainaxEnding[=/=]MindScrew: Admittedly, the whole ''album'' is a giant MindScrew, but the ending...well, "''it''" doesn't seem to be about anything clearly related to the story, but the end of the story in the liner notes is pure crazy. [[spoiler: Rael saves his brother John's life only to discover that he and John are actually the same person, they have an out-of-both-bodies experience, they are "outlined in yellow," and ''they and the scenery melt into purple haze.'']] Figure ''that'' one out.

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* GainaxEnding[=/=]MindScrew: Admittedly, the whole ''album'' is a giant MindScrew, but the ending...well, "''it''" GainaxEnding: "''It''" doesn't seem to be about anything clearly related to the story, but the end of the story in the liner notes is pure crazy. [[spoiler: Rael saves his brother John's life only to discover that he and John are actually the same person, they have an out-of-both-bodies experience, they are "outlined in yellow," and ''they and the scenery melt into purple haze.'']] Figure ''that'' one out.



* MindScrew: AND HOW. Case in point, the main character's ''emasculation'' is a major plot point. Also, pretty much everything else.

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* MindScrew: AND HOW. Case in point, the The main character's ''emasculation'' is a major plot point. Also, pretty much everything else.
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* DarkReprise: "The Light Dies Down on Broadway" is sort of a twisted reprise of the theme from the first song.

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* DarkReprise: "The Light Dies Down on Broadway" is sort of a twisted reprise of the theme from the first song.song, mixed with part of The Lamia's melody.
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* DarkReprise: "The Light Dies Down on Broadway" is sort of a twisted reprise of the theme from the first song.
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*** Phil helped write and arrange some of the music for ''The Lamb'' along with the other Genesis members, but PeterGabriel (by his insistence) wrote all of the lyrics and concept, save for "The Light Dies Down On Broadway", which Tony wrote the words for as Peter had no time to write them. Gabriel was, for the most part, drug-free.

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*** Phil helped write and arrange some of the music for ''The Lamb'' along with the other Genesis members, but PeterGabriel (by his insistence) wrote all of the lyrics and concept, save for "The Light Dies Down On Broadway", which Tony wrote the words for as when Peter had no time to write them.got writer's block. Gabriel was, for the most part, drug-free.
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** Not to mention a full blown [[DarkReprise reprise]] of the title track in "The Light Dies Down on Broadway".

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** Not to mention a full blown [[DarkReprise reprise]] of the title track in "The Light Dies Down on Broadway".Broadway", which begins with motifs from "The Lamia" and turns into a full-blown DarkReprise of the title track.
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* ADateWithRosiePalms: The final line of "Counting Out Time":
-->Without you, mankind handkinds thru' the blues.


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* BreakingTheFourthWall: In the synopsis of the album included in the liner notes, Rael tells readers to "Keep your fingers out of my eye."
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine De Saint-Expuery's novel ''TheLittlePrince'', but PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine De Saint-Expuery's novel ''TheLittlePrince'', ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', but PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept.
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Rael comes "out of the subway" at Broadway which is evidently "just like Twenty-Second Street". The New York subway system [[DidNotDoTheResearch does not work that way]]. Averted when performed live, as Music/PhilCollins sometimes sings "just like Forty-Second Street" instead.

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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Rael comes "out of the subway" at Broadway which is evidently "just like Twenty-Second Street". The New York subway system [[DidNotDoTheResearch does not work that way]].way. Averted when performed live, as Music/PhilCollins sometimes sings "just like Forty-Second Street" instead.



* FakeAmerican: A half-Puerto Rican street kid from [[BigApplesauce New York City]] would be unlikely to refer to money as "[[DidNotDoTheResearch notes and coins]]". But he does anyway. And in the next song he says "progressive hypocrites" instead of "liberal hypocrites" -- "progressive" wouldn't become a common term in America for another fifteen or twenty years.

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* FakeAmerican: A half-Puerto Rican street kid from [[BigApplesauce New York City]] would be unlikely to refer to money as "[[DidNotDoTheResearch notes "notes and coins]]".coins". But he does anyway. And in the next song he says "progressive hypocrites" instead of "liberal hypocrites" -- "progressive" wouldn't become a common term in America for another fifteen or twenty years.
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* IntercourseWithYou: "Counting Out Time."


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* RearrangeTheSong: "The Carpet Crawlers" was rerecorded for ''Turn It On Again: The Hits'' as "The Carpet Crawlers 1999" in... well... 1999. Notable for being the last time to date all five members who worked on this album -- Gabriel, Hackett, Rutherford, Banks, and Collins -- have performed together.
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* AllThereInTheManual: The story Gabriel wrote for the liner notes. [[YourMileageMayVary Some people]] think that it only serves to [[MindScrewdriver confuse matters even further]].

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* AllThereInTheManual: The story Gabriel wrote for the liner notes. [[YourMileageMayVary Some people]] think that it only serves to [[MindScrewdriver confuse matters even further]].
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Rael comes "out of the subway" at Broadway which is evidently "just like Twenty-Second Street". The New York subway system [[DidNotDoTheResearch does not work that way]]. Averted when performed live, as Phil Collins sometimes sings "just like Forty-Second Street" instead.

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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Rael comes "out of the subway" at Broadway which is evidently "just like Twenty-Second Street". The New York subway system [[DidNotDoTheResearch does not work that way]]. Averted when performed live, as Phil Collins Music/PhilCollins sometimes sings "just like Forty-Second Street" instead.

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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Rael comes "out of the subway" at Broadway which is evidently "just like Twenty-Second Street". The New York subway system [[DidNotDoTheResearch does not work that way]]. Averted when performed live, as Phil Collins sometimes sings "just like Forty-Second Street" instead.



* [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse What Happened To The Lamb]]: It's mentioned only once, and then...

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* [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse What Happened To The Lamb]]: Lamb?]]: It's mentioned only once, and then...



* YouFailGeographyForever: Rael comes "out of the subway" at Broadway which is evidently "just like Twenty-Second Street". The New York subway system [[DidNotDoTheResearch does not work that way]]. Averted when performed live, as Phil Collins sometimes sings "just like Forty-Second Street" instead.

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* YouFailGeographyForever: Rael comes "out "YouAreNumberSix": "Brother John is number nine", from "The Grand Parade of the subway" at Broadway which is evidently "just like Twenty-Second Street". The New York subway system [[DidNotDoTheResearch does not work that way]]. Averted when performed live, as Phil Collins sometimes sings "just like Forty-Second Street" instead.Lifeless Packaging".

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* PunctuatedForEmphasis: "I'M RAAAAAEL!!!!"



* ThisIsSPARTA: "I'M RAAAAAEL!!!!"
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* TakeThat: Apparently, on various legs of the tour, Peter Gabriel (jokingly) compared the Slippermen to either guitarist Mike Rutherford or drummer Phil Collins.

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* TakeThat: Apparently, on various legs of the tour, Peter Gabriel (jokingly) compared the Slippermen to either guitarist Mike Rutherford or drummer Phil Collins.Music/PhilCollins.

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The story follows a young half-Puerto Rican street kid from New York City named Rael as he embarks on a fantastical journey to find his brother John. [[MindScrew Or something like that...]].

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The story follows a young half-Puerto Rican street kid from New York City named Rael as he embarks on a fantastical journey to find his brother John. [[MindScrew Or something like that...]].
]]. Seriously, there's [[http://ashgate.com/default.aspx?page=637&calcTitle=1&isbn=9780754661474&lang=cy-GB an entire book]] that contains various interpretations of the story.


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* RavensAndCrows: A raven plays a pivotal role in the story when [[spoiler:it flies off with the yellow tube containing Rael's genitals]].
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* SequelFirst: For some reason, the American leg of the ''TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway'' tour was scheduled to happen before the album itself had even been released in the US. The band ended up playing the entirety of the album to audiences who hadn't heard it yet and certainly weren't expecting [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible anything like that]].

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* SequelFirst: For some reason, the American leg of the ''TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway'' ''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' tour was scheduled to happen before the album itself had even been released in the US. The band ended up playing the entirety of the album to audiences who hadn't heard it yet and certainly weren't expecting [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible anything like that]].
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If the links fail, than why have it?


* {{MST}}: See it [[http://www.solsburyhill.org/pre2010files/Lambopener.html here]].
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* MindScrew: AND HOW. Case in point, the main character's ''emasculation'' [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel is a major plot point]]. Also, pretty much everything else.

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* MindScrew: AND HOW. Case in point, the main character's ''emasculation'' [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel is a major plot point]].point. Also, pretty much everything else.
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* TroubledProduction:
** For starters, Peter Gabriel insisted on writing all of the lyrics himself, feeling that a consistent story would be necessary. At the time, his marriage was in trouble and his newborn daughter was in an incubator. This led to most of the music being written in his absence by the Banks/Rutherford/Collins trio.
** Arguments over included songs and lyrics. The other members of the band would occasionally rewrite lyrics to better fit their music, and Gabriel wrote several songs on his own (to bridge already-written sections) without the rest of the band's input (one of them, "The Carpet Crawlers", would be a live staple for the post-Gabriel band). Gabriel also ran into writer's block with "The Light Lies Down On Broadway", leaving Banks and Rutherford to write the music.
** In the middle of the album sessions, Gabriel received an offer to work with William Friedkin on a movie screenplay, and couldn't see why the rest of the band thought leaving in the middle of an album session might be a bad thing. Genesis' manager Tony Smith had to call Friedkin and get him to back off, which led to discontent on Gabriel's part. Gabriel made it clear he was leaving the band, although he stayed to do the live tour.
** Due to stress from being creatively sidelined on the album and his own failing marriage, Steve Hackett snapped a wineglass in his hand shortly before the start of the tour, injuring his hand and delaying the start of the tour. This meant the first wing performed was the American wing, where the album hadn't been released yet. Ticket sales went "meh." Hackett would record his first solo album shortly after the tour, and leave the band within two years.
** The live show was troubled by faulty equipment (including the slides meant to visually display the story). The band performed the entire double album, and only performed older, more recognized material in encores. Gabriel eschewed his trademark costumes for most of the show, and when he donned them for the second half, the overly elaborate designs prevented him from getting a microphone near his mouth, rendering the lyrics incomprehensible.
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*** Phil helped write and arrange some of the music for ''The Lamb'' along with the other Genesis members, but PeterGabriel (by his insistence) wrote all of the lyrics and concept, save for "The Light Dies Down On Broadway", which Tony wrote the words for as Peter had no time to write them. Gabriel was, for the most part, drug-free.
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* Creator/{{Hipgnosis}}: Did the cover art.

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* GainaxEnding /MindScrew: Admittedly, the whole ''album'' is a giant MindScrew, but the ending...well, "''it''" doesn't seem to be about anything clearly related to the story, but the end of the story in the liner notes is pure crazy. [[spoiler: Rael saves his brother John's life only to discover that he and John are actually the same person, they have an out-of-both-bodies experience, they are "outlined in yellow," and ''they and the scenery melt into purple haze.'']] Figure ''that'' one out.

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* GainaxEnding /MindScrew: GainaxEnding[=/=]MindScrew: Admittedly, the whole ''album'' is a giant MindScrew, but the ending...well, "''it''" doesn't seem to be about anything clearly related to the story, but the end of the story in the liner notes is pure crazy. [[spoiler: Rael saves his brother John's life only to discover that he and John are actually the same person, they have an out-of-both-bodies experience, they are "outlined in yellow," and ''they and the scenery melt into purple haze.'']] Figure ''that'' one out.out.
* Creator/{{Hipgnosis}}: Did the cover art.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine De Saint-Expuery's novel ''TheLittlePrince'', but PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept.

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* EpicRiff: Mostly on keyboards, see "In The Cage", "The Raven" and "Riding the Scree".



* FreudWasRight: The Slippermen, and Doktor Dyper's "[[HighOctaneNightmareFuel cure]]" for same.


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* TakeThat: Apparently, on various legs of the tour, Peter Gabriel (jokingly) compared the Slippermen to either guitarist Mike Rutherford or drummer Phil Collins.
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''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' is a ConceptAlbum released by Music/{{Genesis}} in 1974. It is their last album with PeterGabriel.

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''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' is a ConceptAlbum released by Music/{{Genesis}} in 1974. It is their last album with PeterGabriel.
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