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* WeUsedToBeFriends: "It's Raining Again" from "Famous Last Words". "Oh no, I'm losing a friend" indeed.
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: "It's Raining Again" from "Famous Last Words". "Oh no, I'm losing a friend" indeed. [[note]] Hodgson wrote it to cheer up Rick Davies about the impending break up of their friendship, YMMV as to whether he was successful or not. [[/note]]
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* EpicInstrumentalOpener: Their album closers usually contain one of these. In many cases, the ending or the opener lasts ''half the song''.
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* EpicInstrumentalOpener: Their album closers usually contain one of these. In many cases, "School", "Take the ending or Long Way Home", "Fool's Overture", "Child of Vision", and "Don't Leave Me Now" are the opener lasts ''half band's most prominent long intros. Also note that the song''.last three songs were the closing numbers on their respective albums.
* LongestSongGoesLast: "Aries", "Fool's Overture", "Child of Vision".
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* OneWordTitle: Multiple songs:
** "School": About a AssimilationAcademy.
** "Dreamer": About a MadDreamer.
** "Downstream"
** "School": About a AssimilationAcademy.
** "Dreamer": About a MadDreamer.
** "Downstream"
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* OneWordTitle: Multiple songs:
** "School": Aboutsongs including: "School" (about an AssimilationAcademy), "Dreamer" (about a AssimilationAcademy.
** "Dreamer": About a MadDreamer.
** "Downstream"MadDreamer), "Downstream", "Crazy", and "Cannonball".
** "School": About
** "Dreamer": About a MadDreamer.
** "Downstream"
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* SexyPackaging: ''Indelibly Stamped'' uses a photo of a topless woman's heavily-tattooed upper body as its cover photo.
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* SexyPackaging: SexyPackaging:
** ''Indelibly Stamped'' uses a photo of a topless woman's heavily-tattooed upper body as its cover photo.
** ''Indelibly Stamped'' uses a photo of a topless woman's heavily-tattooed upper body as its cover photo.
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** [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] with the front cover of ''Breakfast In America''; the band originally intended for Libby the waitress to be young and sexy, but instead decided to feature a heavy-set, plain-looking middle-aged waitress (played by actress [[Film/FarewellMyLovely Kate Murtagh]]) instead, in keeping with the band's sense of humor.
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* TheMan: A common theme in their music, especially their more cynical songs, such as "School", and "The Logical Song".
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* SexyPackaging: ''Indelibly Stamped'' uses a photo of a topless woman's heavily-tattooed upper body as its cover photo.
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* ContemptibleCover: ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indelibly_Stamped Indelibly Stamped]]''. For those who don't want to look ([[{{NSFW}} or are at work]]), it's the heavily-tattooed upper body of a naked woman.
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* SopranoAndGravel: Hodgson is a tenor, while Davies has a deep voice.
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* SopranoAndGravel: Hodgson is a tenor, while Davies has a deep voice. This also goes down to their compositions, with Hodgson's folk and pop leanings while Davies is rooted in the blues.
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* Mark Hart – Vocals, keyboards, guitar
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* Mark Hart [[note]]later a member of ''Music/CrowdedHouse''[[/note]] – Vocals, keyboards, guitar
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* PluckyComicRelief: John Helliwell often serves as this during their concerts. For example in the ''Paris'' album, he was talking about enjoying some French cuisine, before listing off some Italian dishes instead and realizing the mix-up.
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* PluckyComicRelief: John Helliwell often serves as this during their concerts.concerts as the master of ceremonies. For example in the ''Paris'' album, he was talking about enjoying some French cuisine, before listing off some Italian dishes instead and realizing the mix-up.
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: "It's Raining Again" from "Famous Last Words". "Oh no, I'm losing a friend" indeed.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Their 1970 self-titled debut album, featuring guitarist Richard Palmer writing all the lyrics and handling most of the vocals, [[LeadBassist Roger Hodgson playing bass]], and no woodwinds.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Their 1970 self-titled debut album, featuring guitarist Richard Palmer Palmer-James writing all the lyrics and handling most of the vocals, [[LeadBassist Roger Hodgson playing bass]], and no woodwinds.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Their 1970 self-titled debut album, featuring guitarist Richard Palmer writing all the lyrics and handling most of the vocals, [[LeadBassist Roger Hodgson playing bass]], and no woodwinds.
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* LeadBassist: Roger Hodgson started as the band's bassist.
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* SplashOfColor: the cover photo of ''Crisis? What Crisis?'' features a man sitting in a beach chair under an umbrella in color, while the background (a rundown factory) is all in black and white.
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* ''Crime of the Century'' (1974)
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* ''Crime of the Century'' ''Music/CrimeOfTheCentury'' (1974)
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* AssimilationAcademy: "School", which is the trope's page quote.
-->''"I can see you in the morning when you go to school\\
Don't forget your books, you know you've got to learn the golden rule\\
Teacher tells you stop your play and get on with your work\\
and be like Johnny -- too good, don't you know he never shirks\\
He's coming along."''
* BecauseISaidSo: "School" even provides the page quote.
-->''"Don't do this, and don't Do that\\
What are they trying to do?\\
Make a good boy of you\\
Do they know where it's at?\\
Don't criticize, they're old and wise\\
Do as they tell you to\\
Don't want the devil to\\
Come and put out your eyes"''
* BookEnds: ''Crime of the Century'' opens and ends with the harmonica solo of "School", and their debut album features one version of the song "Surely" at each end.
* BrilliantButLazy: Deconstructed with "Dreamer", as the person in the song continues to dream on instead on acting on his thoughts. Thus wasting his life while doing nothing noteworthy.
-->''"I can see you in the morning when you go to school\\
Don't forget your books, you know you've got to learn the golden rule\\
Teacher tells you stop your play and get on with your work\\
and be like Johnny -- too good, don't you know he never shirks\\
He's coming along."''
* BecauseISaidSo: "School" even provides the page quote.
-->''"Don't do this, and don't Do that\\
What are they trying to do?\\
Make a good boy of you\\
Do they know where it's at?\\
Don't criticize, they're old and wise\\
Do as they tell you to\\
Don't want the devil to\\
Come and put out your eyes"''
* BookEnds: ''Crime of the Century'' opens and ends with the harmonica solo of "School", and their debut album features one version of the song "Surely" at each end.
* BrilliantButLazy: Deconstructed with "Dreamer", as the person in the song continues to dream on instead on acting on his thoughts. Thus wasting his life while doing nothing noteworthy.
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* CaptivityHarmonica: The intro to "School" invokes this.
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* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: On the original Lyrics sheet insert for ''Crime of the Century'' (the album), Roger Hodgson's vocals are colored white, and Rick Davies' yellow.
* ConceptAlbum: ''Crime of the Century''. Its uniting theme being insanity, or the dark side of society. However, Roger Hodgson says that other than a deliberate connection between "School" and the first line of "Bloody Well Right", there was never any intention to link any of the songs, and any reading of it as a concept album is strictly the listener's.
* ConceptAlbum: ''Crime of the Century''. Its uniting theme being insanity, or the dark side of society. However, Roger Hodgson says that other than a deliberate connection between "School" and the first line of "Bloody Well Right", there was never any intention to link any of the songs, and any reading of it as a concept album is strictly the listener's.
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* HumansAreBastards: The song "Crime Of The Century" is either this or a group jumping the MoralEventHorizon (Raping the universe besides being difficult, would obviously cross that line) depending on how you interpret the fact that behind the masks "there's you and there's me".
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%%* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: "Dreamer"
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* TrainSong: "Rudy". ''Rudy's on a train to nowhere, ...''
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* YouAreNotAlone: "Hide In Your Shell."
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* MotifMerger: Of a sort; the cover of their compilation album ''The Very Best of Supertramp'' features items from three of their most famous albums: the grate from the cover of ''Crime of the Century'', from which emerges the hand carrying a glass of an orange-colored drink from the cover of ''Breakfast in America'', with the glass adorned with the orange umbrella from ''Crisis? What Crisis?''.
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* MotifMerger: Of a sort; the cover of their compilation album ''The Very Best of Supertramp'' features items from three of their most famous albums: the grate from the cover of ''Crime of the Century'', from which emerges the hand carrying a glass of an orange-colored drink orange juice from the cover of ''Breakfast in America'', with the glass adorned with the orange umbrella from ''Crisis? What Crisis?''.
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Breakfast In Amreica now has its own page
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* ''Breakfast in America'' (1979)
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* ''Breakfast in America'' ''Music/BreakfastInAmerica'' (1979)
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* BigApplesauce: The cover for ''Breakfast in America'' is NYC with boxes as buildings and a waitress as the Statue of Liberty.
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* GreasySpoon: The diner in the back cover of ''Breakfast in America'', based on a real life diner the band ate at across the street from the studio where they recorded the album.
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%%* GrowingUpSucks: "The Logical Song"
%%* HatesSmallTalk: "Casual Conversations"
%%* HatesSmallTalk: "Casual Conversations"
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* HorribleHollywood: "Gone Hollywood".
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* JadeColoredGlasses: The page quote is from "The Logical Song".
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* LossOfIdentity: "The Logical Song", again.
-->Please, please tell me what we've learned\\
I know it sounds absurd\\
Please tell me who I am
-->Please, please tell me what we've learned\\
I know it sounds absurd\\
Please tell me who I am
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%%* NotStayingForBreakfast: "Goodbye Stranger"
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* PackagedAsOtherMedium: The inner sleeve of ''Breakfast in America'' is designed to look like a diner menu, in keeping with the theme of the cover.
* ParodyOfEvolution: * The Music/{{Supertramp}} album cover for ''Brother Where You Bound'' is a multi-colored straight example, but the inside artwork shows an AbbeyRoadCrossing pose by the members of the band, all not too dissimilar to how the "man" figure is walking.
* ParodyOfEvolution: * The Music/{{Supertramp}} album cover for ''Brother Where You Bound'' is a multi-colored straight example, but the inside artwork shows an AbbeyRoadCrossing pose by the members of the band, all not too dissimilar to how the "man" figure is walking.
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* RefrainFromAssuming: "Breakfast In America" is not "Take a Look at My Girlfriend".
%%* RhymesOnADime: "The Logical Song," again.
* RhymingWithItself: "Breakfast In America" rhymes girlfriend with girlfriend.
%%* RockstarSong: "Take the Long Way Home"
%%* RhymesOnADime: "The Logical Song," again.
* RhymingWithItself: "Breakfast In America" rhymes girlfriend with girlfriend.
%%* RockstarSong: "Take the Long Way Home"
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* TakeThat: WordOfGod says that "Casual Conversations" and "Child of Vision" are take thats to Roger Hodgson and Rick Davies respectively (and written by Rick Davies and Roger Hodgson, respectively).
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* TheSomethingSong: "The Logical Song"
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* MotifMerger: Of a sort; the cover of their compilation album ''The Very Best of Supertramp'' features items from three of their most famous albums: the grate from the cover of ''Crime of the Century'', from which emerges the hand carrying a glass of an orange-colored drink from the cover of ''Breakfast in America'', with the glass adorned with the orange umbrella from ''Crisis? What Crisis?''.
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* Bob Siebenberg Drums, percussion
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* Bob Siebenberg – Drums, percussion
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* Richard Palmer-James – Vocals, electric guitar, acoustic guitar, balalaika[[note]]If you're wondering what a balalaika is, it's a kind of Russian stringed instrument with a triangular body and three strings.[[/note]]
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* Richard Palmer-James – Vocals, electric guitar, acoustic guitar, balalaika[[note]]If you're wondering what a balalaika is, it's a kind of Russian stringed instrument with a triangular body and three strings.[[/note]]balalaika
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->''When I was young it seemed that life was so wonderful,\\
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->''"When I was young it seemed that life was so wonderful,\\
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Oh playfully watching me.''
-->"The Logical Song"
-->"The Logical Song"
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Oh playfully watching me.''
-->"The"''
-->--"'''The LogicalSong"
Song'''"
-->"The
-->--"'''The Logical
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!!They provide examples of:
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* GratuitousPanning: Cleverly used on "Better Days", when it uses clips of speeches from the 1984 Presidential campaign; Republicans Ronald Reagan and George Bush on the right channel, Democrats Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro on the left.
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* SpokenWordInMusic: "Fool's Overture" has a short clip of Winston Churchill's famous "We shall fight on the beaches" speech.
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* SpokenWordInMusic: SpokenWordInMusic:
** "Fool's Overture" has a short clip of Winston Churchill's famous "We shall fight on the beaches"speech.speech.
** "Better Days" ends with clips from UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan, his vice-president UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush, and their Democrat opponents Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro, taken from the 1984 US Presidential campaign.
** "Brother Where You Bound" opens with readings of news reports and passages from ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour''.
** "Fool's Overture" has a short clip of Winston Churchill's famous "We shall fight on the beaches"
** "Better Days" ends with clips from UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan, his vice-president UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush, and their Democrat opponents Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro, taken from the 1984 US Presidential campaign.
** "Brother Where You Bound" opens with readings of news reports and passages from ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour''.
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%%* AssimilationAcademy: "School", which is the trope's page quote.
%%* BecauseISaidSo: "School" even provides the page quote.
%%* BecauseISaidSo: "School" even provides the page quote.
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Don't forget your books, you know you've got to learn the golden rule\\
Teacher tells you stop your play and get on with your work\\
and be like Johnny -- too good, don't you know he never shirks\\
He's coming along."''
* BecauseISaidSo: "School" even provides the page
-->''"Don't do this, and don't Do that\\
What are they trying to do?\\
Make a good boy of you\\
Do they know where it's at?\\
Don't criticize, they're old and wise\\
Do as they tell you to\\
Don't want the devil to\\
Come and put out your eyes"''
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%%* ButNowIMustGo: "Goodbye Stranger".
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-->''Goodbye stranger, it's been nice''\
''Hope you find your paradise...''
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%%* ParodyOfEvolution: ''Brother Where You Bound''
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%%* SanitySlippageSong: Asylum
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-->''Don't arrange to have me sent to no asylum.''\\
''[[BlatantLies I'm just as sane as anyone]].''\\
''[[StatusQuoIsGod It's just a game I play for fun...]]''
** "Just Another Nervous Wreck" seems to play this trope [[AxCrazy much straighter]].
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%%* CaptivityHarmonica: "School".
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* AssimilationAcademy: "School", which is the trope's page quote.
* BecauseISaidSo: "School" even provides the page quote.
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* ButNowIMustGo: "Goodbye Stranger".
* CaptivityHarmonica: "School".
* TheCasanova: "Lover Boy".
* CaptivityHarmonica: "School".
* TheCasanova: "Lover Boy".
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* GrowingUpSucks: "The Logical Song"
* HatesSmallTalk: "Casual Conversations"
* HereWeGoAgain: Hey, hey, hah-oh, lah-la, hey-hey. Give a little bit. Give a little bit of your love to me...
* HatesSmallTalk: "Casual Conversations"
* HereWeGoAgain: Hey, hey, hah-oh, lah-la, hey-hey. Give a little bit. Give a little bit of your love to me...
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* HereWeGoAgain: Hey, hey, hah-oh, lah-la, hey-hey. Give a little bit. Give a little bit of your love to me...
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* MadDreamer: "Dreamer", obviously
* NonAppearingTitle: "The Logical Song", "Breakfast In America", "Gone Hollywood", "A Soapbox Opera", "Fool's Overture", "Downstream", "Just Another Nervous Wreck".
* NotStayingForBreakfast: "Goodbye Stranger"
* NonAppearingTitle: "The Logical Song", "Breakfast In America", "Gone Hollywood", "A Soapbox Opera", "Fool's Overture", "Downstream", "Just Another Nervous Wreck".
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* ParodyOfEvolution: ''Brother Where You Bound''
* PerpetualPoverty: "Poor Boy"
* PleaseDontLeaveMe: "Don't Leave Me Now"
* PerpetualPoverty: "Poor Boy"
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* RockstarSong: "Take the Long Way Home"
* SanitySlippageSong: Asylum
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* SillyLoveSongs: A couple, such as "Oh! Darling!", "Give A Little Bit", and "Downstream".
* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: "Dreamer"
* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: "Dreamer"
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* GreasySpoon: The diner in the back cover of ''Breakfast in America'', based on a real life diner the band ate at across the street from the studio they recorded the album at.
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* GreasySpoon: The diner in the back cover of ''Breakfast in America'', based on a real life diner the band ate at across the street from the studio where they recorded the album at.album.
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* PackagedAsOtherMedium: The inner sleeve of ''Breakfast in America'' is designed to look like a diner menu, in keeping with the theme of the cover.
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--> So roll up and see
--> How they rape the Universe
--> [[AndThatsTerrible Now they've gone from bad to worse.]]
--> How they rape the Universe
--> [[AndThatsTerrible Now they've gone from bad to worse.]]
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-->see\\
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-->Universe\\
[[AndThatsTerrible Now they've gone from bad to worse.]]
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How they rape the
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[[AndThatsTerrible Now they've gone from bad to worse.]]
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-->Please, please tell me what we've learned
-->I know it sounds absurd
-->Please tell me who I am
-->I know it sounds absurd
-->Please tell me who I am
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-->Please, please tell me what we've learned
-->Ilearned\\
I know it soundsabsurd
-->Pleaseabsurd\\
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* OneWordTitle: Multiple songs:
** "School": About a AssimilationAcademy.
** "Dreamer": About a MadDreamer.
** "Downstream"
** "School": About a AssimilationAcademy.
** "Dreamer": About a MadDreamer.
** "Downstream"
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* PluckyComicRelief: John Helliwell often serve as this during their concerts. For example in the Paris album, he was talking about enjoying some French cuisine, before listing off some Italian dishes instead and realizing the mix-up.
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* PluckyComicRelief: John Helliwell often serve serves as this during their concerts. For example in the Paris ''Paris'' album, he was talking about enjoying some French cuisine, before listing off some Italian dishes instead and realizing the mix-up.
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While in this context that YMMV item counts as invoked, I am of the impression it’s probably better to just not have such a pothole.
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* ThreeChordsAndTheTruth: Nevermind three chords, Rick Davies wrote "Cannonball" on ''one'' chord, just because [[SelfImposedChallenge he wanted to see if he could.]]
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* ThreeChordsAndTheTruth: Nevermind three chords, Rick Davies wrote "Cannonball" on ''one'' chord, just because [[SelfImposedChallenge he wanted to see if he could.]]