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* CreatorBreakdown: The cover of his 1969 album ''Rehearsals for Retirement'' depicts Ochs' own tombstone, which stated that he died in "Chicago, Illinois, 1968". This was later [[GallowsHumor parodied]] in ''AMightyWind'''s fictional album, ''Calling It Quits'', which provided the image for this trope.
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* GreatestHitsAlbum: Subverted; his album ''Greatest Hits'' consisted of 10 completely new songs.

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* GreatestHitsAlbum: Subverted; his album ''Greatest Hits'' consisted of 10 completely new songs.see Non-Indicative Name below.
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* GreatestHitsAlbum: Subverted; his album ''Greatest Hits'' consisted of 10 completely new songs.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself[[hottip:*:Don't bother potholing this to a certain former president, it'll only get edited out again]], while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")

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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself[[hottip:*:Don't himself[[note]]Don't bother potholing this to a certain former president, it'll only get edited out again]], again[[/note]], while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")


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* DeepSouth: "Here's to the State of Mississippi"
* DirtyCop: In "Here's to the State of Mississippi", he depicts the police in Mississipi that way:

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* DeepSouth: "Here's to the State of Mississippi"
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* DirtyCop: In "Here's to the State of Mississippi", he depicts the police in Mississipi Mississippi that way:



* HurricaneOfExcuses: "Draft Dodger Rag"

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* HurricaneOfExcuses: "Draft Dodger Rag"Rag".
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* ElvisImpersonator: One misfire was ''Greatest Hits'', Ochs' homage to Buddy Holly and Elvis. He even wore a gold suit like The King, which was interpreted as selling out. Privately, Ochs expressed anxiety about his career, as well as his plans to craft a popular image for himself: [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Che Guevara meets Elvis]]. For this reason, many purists abandoned him for prioritizing his own fame over the music, including BobDylan. Ochs gives the impression of a man torn between his healthy-sized ambition and his ideals.

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* ElvisImpersonator: One misfire was ''Greatest Hits'', Ochs' homage to Buddy Holly Music/BuddyHolly and Elvis. He even wore a gold suit like The King, which was interpreted as selling out. Privately, Ochs expressed anxiety about his career, as well as his plans to craft a popular image for himself: [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Che Guevara meets Elvis]]. For this reason, many purists abandoned him for prioritizing his own fame over the music, including BobDylan. Ochs gives the impression of a man torn between his healthy-sized ambition and his ideals.
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* JustFollowingOrders: Mentioned in his anti-war song "Is There Anybody Here":
-->''Is there anybody here who thinks that following the orders takes away the blame?\\
Is there anybody here who wouldn't mind a murder by another name?''
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* CreatorBreakdown: The cover of his 1969 album ''Rehearsals for Retirement'' depicts Ochs' own tombstone, which stated that he died in "Chicago, Illinois, 1968".

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* CreatorBreakdown: The cover of his 1969 album ''Rehearsals for Retirement'' depicts Ochs' own tombstone, which stated that he died in "Chicago, Illinois, 1968". This was later [[GallowsHumor parodied]] in ''AMightyWind'''s fictional album, ''Calling It Quits'', which provided the image for this trope.



* ElvisImpersonator: One misfire was ''Greatest Hits'', Ochs' homage to Buddy Holly and Elvis. He even wore a gold suit like The King, which was interpreted as selling out. Privately, Ochs expressed anxiety about his career, as well as his plans to craft a popular image for himself: [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Che Guevara meets Elvis]]. For this reason, many purists abandoned him for prioritizing his own fame over the music, including BobDylan. Ochs gives the impression of a man torn between his ideals and a healthy-sized ambition.

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* ElvisImpersonator: One misfire was ''Greatest Hits'', Ochs' homage to Buddy Holly and Elvis. He even wore a gold suit like The King, which was interpreted as selling out. Privately, Ochs expressed anxiety about his career, as well as his plans to craft a popular image for himself: [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Che Guevara meets Elvis]]. For this reason, many purists abandoned him for prioritizing his own fame over the music, including BobDylan. Ochs gives the impression of a man torn between his ideals and a healthy-sized ambition.ambition and his ideals.
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* ElvisImpersonator: One misfire was ''Greatest Hits'', Ochs' homage to Buddy Holly and Elvis. He even wore a gold suit like The King, which was interpreted as selling out. Privately, Ochs expressed anxiety about his career, as well as his plans to craft a popular image for himself: [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Che Guevara meets Elvis]]. For this reason, many purists abandoned him for prioritizing his own fame over the music, including BobDylan. Ochs gives the impression of a man torn between his ideals and a healthy-sized ambition.
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But {{Monopoly}} is so much fun, I'd hate to blow the game.''

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But {{Monopoly}} TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}} is so much fun, I'd hate to blow the game.''
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* SignatureSong: His anti-war song "I Ain't Marching Anymore".
** Also, "The War Is Over."
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* FoxNewsLiberal: Ochs eviscerated them in "Love Me I'm a Liberal".
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* IWillFightNoMoreForever: The ex-soldier from "I Ain't Marching Anymore."

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* NoHitWonder


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* TakeThat: A common trait of his songs.
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** Also, "The War Is Over."
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* NonIndicativeName: His 1970 album ''Greatest Hits'' wasn't a GreatestHitsAlbum, it contained only new material.
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* JesusWasWayCool: "Ballad of the Carpanter" (written by Evan [=MacColl=] presents Jesus as an advocate for the poor workers, who was killed by the rich because of that, and makes no mention of religion.

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* JesusWasWayCool: Ochs covered "Ballad of the Carpanter" (written by Evan [=MacColl=] [=MacColl=]) that presents Jesus as an advocate for the poor workers, who was killed by the rich because of that, and makes no mention of religion.
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* WhenImGoneSong: "When I'm Gone", obviously.
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* JesusWasWayCool: "Ballad of the Carpanter" (written by Evan [=MacColl=] presents Jesus as an advocate for the poor workers, who was killed by the rich because of that, and makes no mention of religion.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself[[hottip:*:Don't bother [[PotHole potholing]] this to a certain former president, it'll only get edited out again]], while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")

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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself[[hottip:*:Don't bother [[PotHole potholing]] potholing this to a certain former president, it'll only get edited out again]], while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")
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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself[[hottip:*:Don't bother [[PotHole potholing]] this to a certain former president, it'll only get edited out again, while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")

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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself[[hottip:*:Don't bother [[PotHole potholing]] this to a certain former president, it'll only get edited out again, again]], while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")
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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself[[hottip:*:Don't bother [[PotHole potholing]] this to a certain former president, it'll only get edited out again]], while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")

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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself[[hottip:*:Don't bother [[PotHole potholing]] this to a certain former president, it'll only get edited out again]], again, while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")
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*MessianicArchetype: As the title suggests, "Crucifixion" is about one of these, or possibly a cycle of Messianic Archetypes including Christ and JFK. I say "possibly" because the song as a whole is a bit of a...
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Philip David "Phil" Ochs (1940-1976) was an American singer and songwriter, famous for his {{protest song}}s, or "topical songs", as he liked to call them. He was the most active during TheSixties, when he wrote hundreds of songs, covering many topics, such as the VietnamWar, the CivilRightsMovement and labor rights. After the events of 1968 (the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, the police riot in Chicago, and the election of RichardNixon) he became increasingly disillusioned and depressed. By the mid-'70s, he had serious mental problems, and the eventually [[DrivenToSuicide hanged himself]] in 1976.

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Philip David "Phil" Ochs (1940-1976) was an American singer and songwriter, SingerSongwriter, famous for his {{protest song}}s, or "topical songs", as he liked to call them. He was the most active during TheSixties, when he wrote hundreds of songs, covering many topics, such as the VietnamWar, the CivilRightsMovement and labor rights. After the events of 1968 (the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, the police riot in Chicago, and the election of RichardNixon) he became increasingly disillusioned and depressed. By the mid-'70s, he had serious mental problems, and the eventually [[DrivenToSuicide hanged himself]] in 1976.
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* FolkMusicFolkMusic: He was an important figure in the '60s folk revival.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself, while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")

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* {{Hypocrite}}: "Draft Dodger Rag" is about a red-blooded conservative who's all for that war in Vietnam, so long as he doesn't have to go himself, himself[[hottip:*:Don't bother [[PotHole potholing]] this to a certain former president, it'll only get edited out again]], while "Love Me, I'm a Liberal," is about someone who pays lip service to every left-wing cause until it becomes dangerous, distasteful or personally uncomfortable. ("The people of old Mississippi/ should all hang their heads in shame,/I can't understand how their minds work./ What's the matter, don't they watch Les Crane?/But if you ask me to bus my children/ I hope the cops take down your name ....")
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Phil Ochs (1940-1976) was an American singer and songwriter, famous for his {{protest song}}s, or "topical songs", as he liked to call them. He was the most active during TheSixties, when he wrote hundreds of songs, covering many topics, such as the VietnamWar, the CivilRightsMovement and labor rights. After the events of 1968 (the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, the police riot in Chicago, and the election of RichardNixon) he became increasingly disillusioned and depressed. By the mid-'70s, he had serious mental problems, and the eventually [[DrivenToSuicide hanged himself]] in 1976.

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Phil Philip David "Phil" Ochs (1940-1976) was an American singer and songwriter, famous for his {{protest song}}s, or "topical songs", as he liked to call them. He was the most active during TheSixties, when he wrote hundreds of songs, covering many topics, such as the VietnamWar, the CivilRightsMovement and labor rights. After the events of 1968 (the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, the police riot in Chicago, and the election of RichardNixon) he became increasingly disillusioned and depressed. By the mid-'70s, he had serious mental problems, and the eventually [[DrivenToSuicide hanged himself]] in 1976.
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Phil Ochs (1940-1976) was an American singer, famous for his {{protest song}}s, or "topical songs", as he liked to call them. He was the most active during TheSixties, when he wrote hundreds of songs, covering many topics, such as the VietnamWar, the CivilRightsMovement and labor rights. After the events of 1968 (the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, the police riot in Chicago, and the election of RichardNixon) he became increasingly disillusioned and depressed. By the mid-'70s, he had serious mental problems, and the eventually [[DrivenToSuicide hanged himself]] in 1976.

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Phil Ochs (1940-1976) was an American singer, singer and songwriter, famous for his {{protest song}}s, or "topical songs", as he liked to call them. He was the most active during TheSixties, when he wrote hundreds of songs, covering many topics, such as the VietnamWar, the CivilRightsMovement and labor rights. After the events of 1968 (the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, the police riot in Chicago, and the election of RichardNixon) he became increasingly disillusioned and depressed. By the mid-'70s, he had serious mental problems, and the eventually [[DrivenToSuicide hanged himself]] in 1976.
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* MindScrew: His eight-and-a-half minute long allegoric song, "Crucifixion".
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* CorruptChurch: In "Here's to the State of Mississippi":
-->''And here's to the churches of Mississippi\\
Where the cross, once made of silver, now is caked with rust\\
And the Sunday morning sermons pander to their lust\\
The fallen face of Jesus is choking in the dust\\
Heaven only knows in which God they can trust''

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