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* SludgeMetal: Sludge/doom actually; an early example if not quite a {{Trope Codifier}} and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly enough, they served as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.

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* SludgeMetal: Sludge/doom actually; an early example example, if not quite a {{Trope Codifier}} Codifier}}, for that genre, and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly enough, they served as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to Music/{{EYEHATEGOD}}, Music/TheMelvins, Music/AcidBath (when they’re not throwing DeathMetal into the mix) and Music/{{Crowbar}} of all bands. Unlike the bands that (barely) preceded them in sludge metal, Grief are slower and much angrier than the original sludge groups and have none of the grooviness or Southern rock hints that these bands have, instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic, upfront attitude, and much slower and nihilistic sound.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to Music/{{EYEHATEGOD}}, Music/{{Eyehategod}}, Music/TheMelvins, Music/AcidBath (when they’re not throwing DeathMetal into the mix) and Music/{{Crowbar}} of all bands. Unlike the bands that (barely) preceded them in sludge metal, Grief are slower and much angrier than the original sludge groups and have none of the grooviness or Southern rock hints that these bands have, instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic, upfront attitude, and much slower and nihilistic sound.
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Besides being the first band of the East Coast to play sludge metal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St. Vitus and Music/BlackSabbath, but ended up being much slower and darker than either of those two (somehow).

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Besides being the first band of the East Coast to play sludge metal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St. Vitus Music/SaintVitus and Music/BlackSabbath, but ended up being much slower and darker than either of those two (somehow).
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Besides being the beginning of the east coast side of sludge and DoomMetal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St. Vitus and Music/BlackSabbath, but much slower and darker than either of those two(somehow).

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Besides being the beginning first band of the east coast side of East Coast to play sludge and DoomMetal, metal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St. Vitus and Music/BlackSabbath, but ended up being much slower and darker than either of those two(somehow).
two (somehow).



* SludgeMetal: Sludge/doom actually; an early example if not quite a {{Trope Codifier}} and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly enough, they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.

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* SludgeMetal: Sludge/doom actually; an early example if not quite a {{Trope Codifier}} and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly enough, they serve served as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.
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Besides being the beginning of the east coast side of sludge and DoomMetal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St.Vitus and Black sabbath but much slower and darker (somehow).

As a result they are easily one of the heaviest and sludgiest of all of the sludge metal groups. Sadly the band called it quits in 2001 and reunited on and off. Their current status is unclear. ''Come to Grief'' and ''Torso'' are considered their landmark works.

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Besides being the beginning of the east coast side of sludge and DoomMetal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St. Vitus and Black sabbath Music/BlackSabbath, but much slower and darker (somehow).

than either of those two(somehow).

As a result result, they are easily one of the heaviest and sludgiest of all of the sludge metal groups. Sadly the band called it quits in 2001 and reunited on and off. Their current status is unclear. ''Come to Grief'' and ''Torso'' are considered their landmark works.
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Besides being the beginning of the east coast side of sludge and DoomMetal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St.Vitus and Black sabbath but much slower and darker ([[UpToEleven somehow]]).

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Besides being the beginning of the east coast side of sludge and DoomMetal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St.Vitus and Black sabbath but much slower and darker ([[UpToEleven somehow]]).
(somehow).
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to Music/{{EYEHATEGOD}}, Music/TheMelvins, Music/AcidBath (When they’re not throwing DeathMetal into the mix.) and Crowbar of all bands: Unlike the bands that (barely) preceded them in sludge Grief are slower and much angrier than the original Sludge groups and have none of the grooves or southern rock hints that these bands have, instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic and upfront attitude.
* EpicRocking: Few songs are less than 5-6 minutes and many over 8 minutes long. Epic is a bit of an misleading word though... more like "relentless dirge". "Earthworm" being a standout example.
* SludgeMetal: Sludge/ doom actually; an early example if not quite {{Trope Codifier}}s and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to Music/{{EYEHATEGOD}}, Music/TheMelvins, Music/AcidBath (When (when they’re not throwing DeathMetal into the mix.) mix) and Crowbar Music/{{Crowbar}} of all bands: bands. Unlike the bands that (barely) preceded them in sludge metal, Grief are slower and much angrier than the original Sludge sludge groups and have none of the grooves grooviness or southern Southern rock hints that these bands have, instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic and aesthetic, upfront attitude.attitude, and much slower and nihilistic sound.
* EpicRocking: Few songs are less than 5-6 minutes and many are over 8 minutes long. Epic is a bit of an misleading word though... more like "relentless dirge". dirge" would be a more accurate term. "Earthworm" being is a standout example.
* SludgeMetal: Sludge/ doom Sludge/doom actually; an early example if not quite a {{Trope Codifier}}s Codifier}} and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly enough, they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Almost never slips below a slow agonizing 9-10, except maybe for a random guitar solo here and there, but it's basically non-stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics. At their most extreme, they're a solid 11.
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Almost never slips below a slow agonizing 9-10, except maybe for a random guitar solo here and there, but it's basically non-stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics.

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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Almost never slips below a slow agonizing 9-10, except maybe for a random guitar solo here and there, but it's basically non-stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics. At their most extreme, they're a solid 11.
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* SludgeMetal: Sludge/ doom actually; an early example if not quite TropeCodifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.

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* SludgeMetal: Sludge/ doom actually; an early example if not quite TropeCodifiers {{Trope Codifier}}s and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.

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Besides being the beginnings of the east coast side of Sludge and doom metal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St.Vitus and Black sabbath but much slower and darker ([[UpToEleven somehow]]).

As a result they are easily one of the heaviest and sludgiest of all of the sludge metal groups.
Sadly the band called it quits in 2001 and reunited on and off. Their current status is unclear: "come to greif" and "torso" being their landmark works.

!Tropes that apply to Grief:

** SludgeMetal: Sludge/ doom actually: an early example if not quite TropeCodifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.

** DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to EYEHATEGOD, Melvins, Music/AcidBath (When they’re not throwing DeathMetal into the mix.) and Crowbar of all bands: Unlike the bands that (barely) preceded them in sludge Grief are slower and much angrier than the original Sludge groups and have none of the grooves or southern rock hints that these bands have, instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic and upfront attitude.

** MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Almost never slips below a slow agonizing 9-10, except maybe for a random guitar solo here and ther, but its basically non-stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics.

** EpicRocking: Few songs are less than 5-6 minutes and many over 8 minutes long : epic is a bit of an misleading word though... more like "relentless dirge" "Earthworm" being a standout example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psyUeA-VdkA&list=PLrJDwCtfUZACTY0cxnZolgpxDjjgGsX7d subverted with a couple songs that are all of 1-3 mins long.

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Besides being the beginnings beginning of the east coast side of Sludge sludge and doom metal, DoomMetal, Grief were chiefly inspired by St.Vitus and Black sabbath but much slower and darker ([[UpToEleven somehow]]).

As a result they are easily one of the heaviest and sludgiest of all of the sludge metal groups. \n Sadly the band called it quits in 2001 and reunited on and off. Their current status is unclear: "come unclear. ''Come to greif" Grief'' and "torso" being ''Torso'' are considered their landmark works.

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works.

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that apply to Grief:

** SludgeMetal: Sludge/ doom actually: an early example if not quite TropeCodifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre. Oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.

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Grief:
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DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to EYEHATEGOD, Melvins, Music/{{EYEHATEGOD}}, Music/TheMelvins, Music/AcidBath (When they’re not throwing DeathMetal into the mix.) and Crowbar of all bands: Unlike the bands that (barely) preceded them in sludge Grief are slower and much angrier than the original Sludge groups and have none of the grooves or southern rock hints that these bands have, instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic and upfront attitude. \n\n**
* EpicRocking: Few songs are less than 5-6 minutes and many over 8 minutes long. Epic is a bit of an misleading word though... more like "relentless dirge". "Earthworm" being a standout example.
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MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Almost never slips below a slow agonizing 9-10, except maybe for a random guitar solo here and ther, there, but its it's basically non-stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics.

** EpicRocking: Few songs are less
lyrics.
* SludgeMetal: Sludge/ doom actually; an early example if not quite TropeCodifiers and they may be slower
than 5-6 minutes and many over 8 minutes long : epic is a bit of most bands in either genre. Oddly they serve as an misleading word though... inspiration for the more like "relentless dirge" "Earthworm" being a standout example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psyUeA-VdkA&list=PLrJDwCtfUZACTY0cxnZolgpxDjjgGsX7d subverted with a couple songs that are all of 1-3 mins long.hardcore oriented sludge bands such as Iron Monkey and Raging Speedhorn.
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Tropes that apply to Grief:

** SludgeMetal: Sludge/ doom actually: an early example if not quite Codifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as iron monkey and Raging speedhorn.

** Darker and edgier: of EYEHATEGOD, Melvins, Acid bath and Crowbar of all bands: Unlike the bands that (barely) preceded them in sludge Greif are slower and much angrier than the original Sludge groups and have none of the grooves or southern rock hints that these bands have instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic and upfront attitude.

** Mohs Scale of Rock and metal hardness: NEVER slips below a slow agonizing 9-10, not even for a second... well maybe 5 seconds a random guitar solo here and there but its basically non stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics.

** Epic rocking: Few songs are less than 5-6 minutes and many over 8 minutes long : epic is a bit of an advised word though... more like "relentless dirge" "Earthworm" being a standout example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psyUeA-VdkA&list=PLrJDwCtfUZACTY0cxnZolgpxDjjgGsX7d subverted with a couple songs that are all of 1-3 mins long.

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Tropes !Tropes that apply to Grief:

** SludgeMetal: Sludge/ doom actually: an early example if not quite Codifiers TropeCodifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre oddly genre. Oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as iron monkey Iron Monkey and Raging speedhorn.Speedhorn.

** Darker and edgier: of **DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to EYEHATEGOD, Melvins, Acid bath Music/AcidBath (When they’re not throwing DeathMetal into the mix.) and Crowbar of all bands: Unlike the bands that (barely) preceded them in sludge Greif Grief are slower and much angrier than the original Sludge groups and have none of the grooves or southern rock hints that these bands have have, instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic and upfront attitude.

** Mohs Scale of Rock and metal hardness: NEVER **MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Almost never slips below a slow agonizing 9-10, not even for a second... well except maybe 5 seconds for a random guitar solo here and there ther, but its basically non stop non-stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics.

** Epic rocking: EpicRocking: Few songs are less than 5-6 minutes and many over 8 minutes long : epic is a bit of an advised misleading word though... more like "relentless dirge" "Earthworm" being a standout example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psyUeA-VdkA&list=PLrJDwCtfUZACTY0cxnZolgpxDjjgGsX7d subverted with a couple songs that are all of 1-3 mins long.
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Greif are a sludge/ doom metal band formed in 1991 in Boston by Terry Sevastano and Pete Donovan.

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Grief
are a sludge/ doom sludge/doom metal band formed in 1991 in Boston by Terry Sevastano and Pete Donovan.



Besides being the beginnings of the east coast side of Sludge and doom metal Greif were cheifly inspired by St Vitus and Black sabbath but much slower and darker (somehow).

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Besides being the beginnings of the east coast side of Sludge and doom metal Greif metal, Grief were cheifly chiefly inspired by St St.Vitus and Black sabbath but much slower and darker (somehow).
([[UpToEleven somehow]]).



Sadly the band called it quits in 2001 and reunited on and off their current status is unclear : "come to greif" and "torso" being their landmark works.

Tropes that apply to Greif:

** Sludge metal: Sludge/ doom actually: an early example if not quite Codifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as iron monkey and Raging speedhorn.

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Sadly the band called it quits in 2001 and reunited on and off their off. Their current status is unclear : unclear: "come to greif" and "torso" being their landmark works.

Tropes that apply to Greif:

** Sludge metal:
Grief:

**SludgeMetal:
Sludge/ doom actually: an early example if not quite Codifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as iron monkey and Raging speedhorn.
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Sadly the band called it quits in 1999: "come to greif" and "torso" being their landmark works.

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Sadly the band called it quits in 1999: 2001 and reunited on and off their current status is unclear : "come to greif" and "torso" being their landmark works.



** Mohs Scale of Rock and metal hardness: NEVER slips below a slow agonizing 10, not even for a second... well maybe 5 seconds a random guitar solo here and there but its basically non stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics.

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** Mohs Scale of Rock and metal hardness: NEVER slips below a slow agonizing 10, 9-10, not even for a second... well maybe 5 seconds a random guitar solo here and there but its basically non stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics.
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Besides being the beginnings of the east coast side of Sludge and doom metal Greif were cheifly inspired by St Vitus Black sabbath but much slower and darker (somehow).

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Besides being the beginnings of the east coast side of Sludge and doom metal Greif were cheifly inspired by St Vitus and Black sabbath but much slower and darker (somehow).
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** Epic rocking: Few songs are less than 6 minutes and many over 8 minutes long : epic is a bit of an advised word though... more like "relentless dirge"

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** Epic rocking: Few songs are less than 6 5-6 minutes and many over 8 minutes long : epic is a bit of an advised word though... more like "relentless dirge"dirge" "Earthworm" being a standout example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psyUeA-VdkA&list=PLrJDwCtfUZACTY0cxnZolgpxDjjgGsX7d subverted with a couple songs that are all of 1-3 mins long.

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Sadly the band called it quits in 1999: "come to greif" being their landmark work.

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Sadly the band called it quits in 1999: "come to greif" and "torso" being their landmark work.works.



** Sludge metal: Sludge/ doom actually: an early example if not quite Codifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre.

** Darker and edgier: of EYEHATEGOD Melvins Acid bath and Crowbar of all bands: Greif are slower and much angrier than the original Sludge groups and have none of the grooves or southern rock hints that these bands have instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic and upfront attitude.

** Mohs Scale of Rock and metal hardness: NEVER slips below a slow agonizing 10, not even for a second... well maybe 5 seconds a random guitar solo here and there but its basically non stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs.

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** Sludge metal: Sludge/ doom actually: an early example if not quite Codifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre.genre oddly they serve as an inspiration for the more hardcore oriented sludge bands such as iron monkey and Raging speedhorn.

** Darker and edgier: of EYEHATEGOD Melvins EYEHATEGOD, Melvins, Acid bath and Crowbar of all bands: Unlike the bands that (barely) preceded them in sludge Greif are slower and much angrier than the original Sludge groups and have none of the grooves or southern rock hints that these bands have instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic and upfront attitude.

** Mohs Scale of Rock and metal hardness: NEVER slips below a slow agonizing 10, not even for a second... well maybe 5 seconds a random guitar solo here and there but its basically non stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs.riffs with dark moody themes and angry lyrics.
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Greif are a sludge/ doom metal band formed in 1991 in Boston by Terry Sevastano and Pete Donovan.
Besides being the beginnings of the east coast side of Sludge and doom metal Greif were cheifly inspired by St Vitus Black sabbath but much slower and darker (somehow).
As a result they are easily one of the heaviest and sludgiest of all of the sludge metal groups.
Sadly the band called it quits in 1999: "come to greif" being their landmark work.

Tropes that apply to Greif:

** Sludge metal: Sludge/ doom actually: an early example if not quite Codifiers and they may be slower than most bands in either genre.

** Darker and edgier: of EYEHATEGOD Melvins Acid bath and Crowbar of all bands: Greif are slower and much angrier than the original Sludge groups and have none of the grooves or southern rock hints that these bands have instead opting for a more hardcore aesthetic and upfront attitude.

** Mohs Scale of Rock and metal hardness: NEVER slips below a slow agonizing 10, not even for a second... well maybe 5 seconds a random guitar solo here and there but its basically non stop thunderous depressing grinding riffs.

** Epic rocking: Few songs are less than 6 minutes and many over 8 minutes long : epic is a bit of an advised word though... more like "relentless dirge"

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