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* ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'': [[spoiler: While it's left ambiguous whether Professor Sada/Turo was evil, the Paradise Protection Protocol AI they designed definitely shows the depths of their obsession by locking the heroes' Pokéballs and sending out a feral Koraidon/Miraidon to attack them.]]
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* ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'': [[spoiler:Volo]] crossed it when [[spoiler:he told Giratina to ''kill the player''.]] And after his defeat, [[SoreLoser his reaction]] makes it clear that [[spoiler:he's still unrepentant over it]]. It's completely a wonder why [[spoiler:he receives no comeuppance from anything or anyone, especially in a franchise known for gleefully punishing other villains of similar magnitude with [[FateWorseThanDeath Fates Worse Than Death]].]]
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* ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'': [[spoiler:Volo]] crossed it when [[spoiler:he told Giratina to ''kill the player''.]] And after his defeat, [[SoreLoser his reaction]] makes it clear that [[spoiler:he's still unrepentant over it]]. It's completely a wonder why [[spoiler:he [[spoiler:[[KarmaHoudini he receives no comeuppance comeuppance]] from anything or anyone, especially in a franchise known for gleefully punishing other villains of similar magnitude with [[FateWorseThanDeath Fates Worse Than Death]].]]
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* ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'': Volo [[spoiler:Volo]] crossed it when [[spoiler:he told Giratina to ''kill the player''.]] And after his defeat, [[SoreLoser his reaction]] makes it clear that [[spoiler:he's still unrepentant over it]]. It's completely a wonder why [[spoiler:he receives no comeuppance from anything or anyone, especially in a franchise known for gleefully punishing other villains of similar magnitude with [[FateWorseThanDeath Fates Worse Than Death]].]]
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* [[BigBad Kodai]] from ''Anime/PokemonZoroarkMasterOfIllusions'' crosses this when he electrocutes a baby right in front of its mother. Unlike the other horrific things he did, this is really the first time he's shown doing something terrible that didn't have anything to do with his plan, as Zoroark stopped attacking the moment she saw he had Zorua. He even comes right out and says he enjoyed it directly after that.
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* [[BigBad Kodai]] from ''Anime/PokemonZoroarkMasterOfIllusions'' crosses this when he electrocutes a the baby Zorua right in front of its mother.mother Zoroark. Unlike the other horrific things he did, this is really the first time he's shown doing something terrible that didn't have anything to do with his plan, as Zoroark stopped attacking the moment she saw he had Zorua. He even comes right out and says he enjoyed it directly after that.
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* Lysandre crosses it [[spoiler: when he lays waste to Lumiose City and captures Ash and his Pokémon for information on the Bond Phenomenon. Alain, who is normally TheStoic; is left horrified that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he willingly helped Lysandre accomplish all this]]]].
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* Lysandre crosses it [[spoiler: when he lays waste to Lumiose City and captures Ash [[spoiler:after Z2 was freed and his Pokémon weapon dismantled, he opts for information a contingency plan to have a Zygarde-shaped Megalith rock, powered by Mairin's infected Chespin (coldly subverting Lysandre's previous PetTheDog moment where he agreed to look after it and keep it alive) act as his new weapon and have it eat up all the power of the Anistar Sundial so that it would unleash energy that would ''eradicate all life on the Bond Phenomenon. Alain, planet'']], and he's willing to do this solely out of spite and resentment for the world and the people who is normally TheStoic; is left horrified that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he willingly helped Lysandre accomplish all this]]]].obstructed his genocidal plans.
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* Even putting his KillEmAll plan aside, Lysandre certainly crossed it by [[spoiler: locking Emma's expansion suit and forcing her to fight 'til it almost gets her killed]].
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* Ghetsis's original MoralEventHorizon crossing plans from the games are still here, but on top of that he has six Unova Gym Leaders captured, beaten up/tortured, and hung up on crosses in order to make a statement of Team Plasma's superiority, and then tries to have his Hydregion [[KillItWithFire kill Black with fire]] on the spot. When normal trainers interfere and stand up to Team Plasma, he orders for them to be killed too. And of course, there's him [[spoiler: trapping Black inside the Light Stone for two whole years.]]
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* Ghetsis's original MoralEventHorizon crossing plans from the games are still here, but on top of that he has six Unova Gym Leaders captured, beaten up/tortured, and hung up on crosses in order to make a statement of Team Plasma's superiority, and then tries to have his Hydregion [[KillItWithFire kill Black with fire]] on the spot. When normal trainers interfere and stand up to Team Plasma, he orders for them to be killed too. And of course, there's him [[spoiler: trapping Black inside the Light Stone for two whole years.years out of spite.]]
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* Ghetsis's original MoralEventHorizon crossing plans from the games are still here, but on top of that he has six Unova Gym Leaders captured, beaten up/tortured, and hung up on crosses in order to make a statement of Team Plasma's superiority, and then tries to have his Hydregion [[KillItWithFire kill Black with fire]] on the spot. When normal trainers interfere and stand up to Team Plasma, he orders for them to be killed to.too. And of course, there's him [[spoiler: trapping Black inside the Light Stone for two whole years.]]
