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** Ace, after his [[TooDumbToLive not-so-glorious death]] that leads many to compare him to [[TorsoWithAView a donut]], as well as the fact he doesn't win any on-screen fight except against mooks and an anime-only hunter who has no powers. He was a bit salvaged after he stalemated Yamato, [[spoiler:who can stall Kaido for a while.]]

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** Ace, after his [[TooDumbToLive not-so-glorious death]] that leads many to compare him to [[TorsoWithAView a donut]], as well as the fact he doesn't win any on-screen fight except against mooks and an anime-only hunter who has no powers.powers, due to his insistence on fighting some of [[OvershadowedByAwesome the strongest characters in the setting]]. He was a bit salvaged after he stalemated Yamato, [[spoiler:who can stall Kaido for a while.]]



** Giants are seen as a powerful race, and Big Mom believes she would have become Pirate King if she's gained Elbaf's allegiance, but more often than not, their imposing size simply serves to hype up their opponents who easily defeating them.[[note]]Marineford-Luffy can easily defeat them, meaning any New World pirate worth their bounties aren't going to have a hard time defeating them.[[/note]] Special mention goes to the Numbers, who are effortlessly trounced despite being hyped up as Ancient Giants like Oars.

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** Giants are seen as a powerful race, and Big Mom believes she would have become Pirate King if she's gained Elbaf's allegiance, but more often than not, their imposing size simply serves to hype up their opponents who easily defeating them.[[note]]Marineford-Luffy can easily defeat them, meaning any New World pirate worth their bounties aren't going to have a hard time defeating them.[[/note]] Special mention goes to the Numbers, who are effortlessly trounced despite being hyped up as Ancient Giants like Oars.Oars and having the size to match.



** Sanji was always dunked on by a good handful of fans. However, what is perhaps the straw that broke the camel's back is when the Egghead Arc saw him getting knocked out by Saturn's DeadlyGaze and rendered immobile and helpless while supposedly weaker individuals like Bonney and [[spoiler:Kuma]] were seemingly unaffected by it or able to snap out of it. Cue uproar of fans calling him a "hype tool". The fact that Oda once jokingly said to Hiroaki Hirata, Sanji's VA, that Sanji will no longer have any highlight scenes in the future is not helping matters.
** The Gum-Gum Fruit, weirdly, has fallen into this among a sector of fans, who have noted that despite, or perhaps [[DramaPreservingHandicap because of]], it being the main character's Devil Fruit, it seems to carry a weird number of downsides (i.e. its stronger forms being CastFromLifespan) and appears to have made Luffy weaker after he first ate it, whereas most other Devil Fruits instantly make the user stronger with no apparent downsides apart from not being able to swim. Ironically, the main people pushing this idea are people [[MemeticBadass doing the opposite with Luffy himself]]--essentially arguing that Luffy has become as good as he is in spite of having such a patently flawed power, and that the Gum-Gum Fruit is actually holding him back.

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** Sanji was always dunked on by a good handful of fans.fans, but it was usually limited to his [[WouldNotHitAGirl issues against women]]. However, what is perhaps the straw that broke the camel's back is when the Egghead Arc saw him getting knocked out by Saturn's DeadlyGaze and rendered immobile and helpless while supposedly weaker individuals like Bonney and [[spoiler:Kuma]] were seemingly unaffected by it or able to snap out of it. Cue uproar of fans calling him a "hype tool". The fact that Oda once jokingly said to Hiroaki Hirata, Sanji's VA, that Sanji will no longer have any highlight scenes in the future is not helping matters.
** The Gum-Gum Fruit, weirdly, has fallen into this among a sector of fans, who have noted that despite, or perhaps [[DramaPreservingHandicap because of]], it being the main character's Devil Fruit, it seems to carry a weird number of downsides (i.e. its stronger forms being CastFromLifespan) and appears to have made Luffy weaker after he first ate it, whereas most other Devil Fruits instantly make the user stronger with no apparent downsides apart from not being able to swim. Ironically, the main people pushing this idea are people [[MemeticBadass doing the opposite with Luffy himself]]--essentially arguing that Luffy has become as good as he is in spite of having such a patently flawed power, and that the Gum-Gum Fruit is actually holding him back. Even after [[spoiler:the Awakening of the Fruit showed it to be a MagikarpPower, fans admit it only reached its peak thanks to Luffy's own worth]].
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* ''Manga/{{Lady}}'': Protagonist Lynn (or, as she is called in Italian, [[DubNameChange Milly]]) is considered this in the Italian fandom, to the point a common joke is calling the series "Milly, un sfiga dopo l'altro" (Milly, one misfortune after the other). This is because the writers intend for her to come off as a sweet child with a DarkAndTroubledPast, but Italian viewers deride it for the {{melodrama}} instead.

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* ''Manga/{{Lady}}'': Protagonist Lynn (or, as she is called in Italian, [[DubNameChange Milly]]) is considered this in the Italian fandom, to the point a common joke is calling the series "Milly, un una sfiga dopo l'altro" (Milly, one misfortune after the other). This is because the writers intend intended for her to come off as a sweet child with a DarkAndTroubledPast, but Italian viewers deride it for the there's so much {{melodrama}} that fans focus on that instead.
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--> ''Lisa si distese sul letto. Dalla stanza accanto arrivava la voce di Music/CristinaDAvena che cantava la nenia di Milly un giorno dopo l'altro. Claudia stava seduta a cavalcioni della sedia, lo sguardo attento alle avventure della stupida bambina bionda.[[labelnote:Translation]]Lisa lay down on the bed. From the next room came the voice of Music/CristinaDAvena, who sang the theme song of ''Milly, one day after another''. Claudia sat astride the chair, her gaze attentive to the adventures of the stupid blonde girl.[[/labelnote]]

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--> ''Lisa Lisa si distese sul letto. Dalla stanza accanto arrivava la voce di Music/CristinaDAvena che cantava la nenia di Milly un giorno dopo l'altro. Claudia stava seduta a cavalcioni della sedia, lo sguardo attento alle avventure della stupida bambina bionda.[[labelnote:Translation]]Lisa [[labelnote:Translation]] Lisa lay down on the bed. From the next room came the voice of Music/CristinaDAvena, who sang the theme song of ''Milly, one day after another''. Claudia sat astride the chair, her gaze attentive to the adventures of the stupid blonde girl.[[/labelnote]]
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--> ''Lisa si distese sul letto. Dalla stanza accanto arrivava la voce di Music/CristinaDAvena che cantava la nenia di Milly un giorno dopo l'altro.
Claudia stava seduta a cavalcioni della sedia, lo sguardo attento alle avventure della stupida bambina bionda.[[labelnote:Translation]]Lisa lay down on the bed. From the next room came the voice of Music/CristinaDAvena, who sang the theme song of ''Milly, one day after another''. Claudia sat astride the chair, her gaze attentive to the adventures of the stupid blonde girl.[[/labelnote]]

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--> ''Lisa si distese sul letto. Dalla stanza accanto arrivava la voce di Music/CristinaDAvena che cantava la nenia di Milly un giorno dopo l'altro.
l'altro. Claudia stava seduta a cavalcioni della sedia, lo sguardo attento alle avventure della stupida bambina bionda.[[labelnote:Translation]]Lisa lay down on the bed. From the next room came the voice of Music/CristinaDAvena, who sang the theme song of ''Milly, one day after another''. Claudia sat astride the chair, her gaze attentive to the adventures of the stupid blonde girl.[[/labelnote]]
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** Hell, even in 2023 she still has this reputation, with novels like ''I ragazzi sognano in technicolor'' joining in the ragging.

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** Hell, even in 2023 she still has this reputation, with novels like ''I ragazzi sognano in technicolor'' [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/m_93.png joining in in]] on the ragging.
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*''Manga/{{Lady}}'': Protagonist Lynn (or, as she is called in Italian, [[DubNameChange Milly]]) is considered this in the Italian fandom, to the point a common joke is calling the series "Milly, un sfiga dopo l'altro" (Milly, one misfortune after the other). This is because the writers intend for her to come off as a sweet child with a DarkAndTroubledPast, but Italian viewers deride it for the {{melodrama}} instead.
-->'''[[https://youtu.be/yFJf2rmtExc?si=AsDGawot8MKYSVIH&t=34 Memoriea8bit]]:'''[[note]]Translated from Italian[[/note]] Of course, they have the typical shojo cliches here, like the child losing her mother in a car accident and being adopted by a family where they are all awful. Did you think ''Manga/CandyCandy'' was the biggest loser in the world? Well, you're wrong. Want to know who is an even bigger loser? ''Milly''. Every episode has a new misfortune befall her! This anime was rerun quite often in my generation, but nowadays it is mostly forgotton, because of other anime that tell much better stories!
**Hell, even in 2023 she still has this reputation, with novels like ''I ragazzi sognano in technicolor'' joining in the ragging.
--> ''Lisa si distese sul letto. Dalla stanza accanto arrivava la voce di Music/CristinaDAvena che cantava la nenia di Milly un giorno dopo l'altro.
Claudia stava seduta a cavalcioni della sedia, lo sguardo attento alle avventure della stupida bambina bionda.[[labelnote:Translation]]Lisa lay down on the bed. From the next room came the voice of Music/CristinaDAvena, who sang the theme song of ''Milly, one day after another''. Claudia sat astride the chair, her gaze attentive to the adventures of the stupid blonde girl.[[/labelnote]]

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