History Main / ThirtySuePileup

--> -- ''ErrantStory'', whose lightbulb [[LampshadeHanging must be nearly invisible by now]].

ParodySue is usually this done deliberately, although [[PoesLaw it can become hard to tell it was supposed to be a joke]]. Parodies of multiple types of Sue tend to turn into a bloodbath (see page picture), as [[BlackHoleSue there's usually only room for one]]. And the above example raises a kind of interesting question: When ''everyone'' is a MarySue, [[FridgeLogic would they cancel each other out]]? [[DivideByZero Or would the universe implode]]?

'''No examples please, the just defines the trope.'''

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!!Examples:

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[[folder:Comics]]
* Elly, Elizabeth, Michael and Anthony make one of these in ''ForBetterOrForWorse'', mainly in the later years of the strip.
* TheAuthority. The team consists of a Superman CaptainErsatz and a Batman CaptainErsatz for people who think that the problem with Batman is that he doesn't have NewPowersAsThePlotDemands (both without the [[ThouShaltNotKill qualms]] about [[ARealManIsAKiller killing]]); three people who can pretty much [[GreenLanternRing do anything]] (one of whom is a [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute replacement]] for a dead team member who was just virtually invincible, not virtually omnipotent); one who can ''literally'' do anything; [[AndZoidberg and Swift]].
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[[folder:Fanfiction]]
* The GonterVerse may have at least one or two Sues or Stus per story, but when you consider they all seem to be in the same universe, they slowly start to form one of these.
* ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'' long ago passed the Sue Event Horizon. You have the main character, AuthorAvatar Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way, her friend's character Willow, and [[PossessionSue total character rehauls]] for [[DracoInLeatherPants Draco]], Harry, Hermione, Ron, [[strike:Hagrid]] "Hargrid" (inexplicably a Hogwarts student), Ginny, Neville, Crabbe, Goyle, and Professor [[strike:Trelawny]] "Trevolry" (a.k.a. Professor [[strike:Sinistra]] "Sinister"). They all become "goffik"; wear only Hot Topic clothes, listen to the same bands she does, cut themselves, look like singers from her favorite bands, and all the guys become bisexual. When she goes back in time, similar treatments are given to James, [[strike:Sirius]] "Serious", [[strike:Lucius]] Lucian, Tom "Satan" Riddle (a.k.a. Tom Bombadil), and Hedwig (actually a male bisexual wizard). Strangely, [[strike:[[EstrogenBrigadeBait Snape]]]] [[EstrogenBrigadeBait "Snap"]] is cast as a major villain.
* Star Ruby and her friends from {{Transformers}} FanFic.
* The author's self insert and his friends in the SailorMoon / {{Urotsukidoji}} crossover, "The Coming of Munihausen." The same can be said for most of the villains as well.
* CoriFalls tends to do this to all the characters she likes.
* ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5567629/1/Stand_of_the_Exiles Stand of the Exiles]]'' has at least three: the [[JerkSue heroine]], her [[PuritySue designated love interest]], and the [[VillainSue villain]].
* ''LightAndDarkTheAdventuresOfDarkYagami'' starts out with just the one stu - Dark Yagami. Then comes Sayu, Night Yagami (Dark's evil(er) clone), [[MindScrew Shakespeare's Shinigami]]... And later comes Day Yagami, [[strike:Darknight]] Dawn Yagami, Dusk Yagami (also a robot), all of them clones from the original Sue, Dark.
* ''[[FanFic/TheElizaTrilogy Harry Potter and the Story of Eliza]]'' is ''made'' of this trope. Not only do you have Eliza Diawna Snape, of course Snape's daughter, but her twin sister Diawna Eliza, their mother Deloris, and Wyrren Malfoy, Draco's would-be CreepyChild little sister. Add in the fact that every single character is OOC (Draco in particular) and you've got one giant mess of a fic on your hands. In the early days of the fandom it was considered the epitome of Mary Sue fic; unfortunately it's now very hard to find online, but if you can get your hands on it it's hysterical.
* ''Fanfic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K'' is [[LoveItOrHateIt possible]] proof of the mantra TropesAreNotBad. Piling almost every MarySue trope onto Shinji at once turns out to be awesome. And the funny thing is WordOfGod states that the point of the fic was to ''avert'' the tendency of Shinji becoming any kind of Sue to achieve happiness. That went over about as well as [[MisaimedFandom Rei]] [[MoeMoe being]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint creepy]].
* ''FanFic/HowIBecameYours'' - The entire [[FanNickname Gaang]] from ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'', save Sokka (his {{Badass Normal}}ity stops just short) and Aang (who doesn't really show up enough), plus ''[[DaddysLittleVillain Azu]][[ManipulativeBastard la]]'', of all people.
* Sierra Ranay, who has also gone by [[IHaveManyNames many other handles]] over the past 10 or so years, writes atrocious SonicTheHedgehog fanfiction which perfectly demonstrates this trope. In one fanfic, she had the following self-insert characters: Shay Ranay, Sierra Ranay, Shay Ranay, Shalita somethingorother, [[FusionDance Sierra/Shalita? "Shay" Ranay]] and Shaetore Valencia. There also were a character or two who were based on family members. If you are a masochist [[http://web.archive.org/web/20050912214920/www.netraptor.org/fanfics/Fanfic_m.html you can peruse her old horror]] here.
* Taken to a ridiculous extreme by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/58246/Pyeknu Fred Herriot]], who can, and often has, a MarySue of almost any given stripe: [[UruseiYatsura Ataru]] gets to be a PossessionSue every time he appears in a Herriot fanfic, as does [[RanmaOneHalf Ranma]]. And it's inevitable they'd also be [[GodModeSue God Mode Sues]], [[JerkSue Jerk Sues]] and [[FixerSue Fixer Sues]], all rolled into one. And that's not counting the masses of original characters that frequently appear in his works... But wait! That's not all! There's also several [[MarySuetopia entire]] ''[[MarySuetopia alien races]]'' [[MarySuetopia of Mary Sues]] that often appear in them, such as the [[PuritySue Avalon]][[SympatheticSue ians]], the [[GodModeSue Nendo-Kata]], and the [[BlackHoleSue Sagussans]]!
* Played for comedy in [[FanFic/HagridAndTheSkoolgurlz Hagrid and the Skoolgurlz]]. The band goes to Fanfic, California, a city where [[MarySue sues]] go when Hogwarts sends them away. Voldemort, trying to compete with the titular band, makes a whole band out of sues, called [[XtremeKoolLetterz Midnight Xtasy.]]
* Pretty much every important character in ''FanFic/KnightOfLolicon'' is a Sue of some sort, whether [[AntiSue Anti]] (the male lead), [[GodModeSue God Mode]] (again, the male lead-- no, that is not a contradiction), [[RelationshipSue Relationship]] (the female lead), [[VillainSue Villain]] (the [[ShapedLikeItself antagonist]], or [[PossessionSue Possession]] (the non-[=OCs=]). [[hottip:*:To give you some idea of the latter, [[{{Lolita}} Dolores Haze]] is now the [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence Goddess of Lolicon]], and the female lead is her daughter-- her daughter somehow looks older than Dolores herself.]]
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[[folder:Literature]]
* RobertAHeinlein's later books can seem to fit this trope, in part because he brought back many of his previous characters to act as mentors for his new protagonists. Many of the main characters are {{Mary Sue}}ish (and the main protagonist is almost always an {{Author Avatar}}), they all tend to have a [[WriterOnBoard similar political outlook]] as the author (or if not at first, they are soon [[EasyEvangelism easily]] convinced by their companions) and to [[AuthorFilibuster talk about it a lot]]. The reason Heinlein remains popular despite this is because his characters are actually [[RuleOfCool very cool]], and they do go through hardships that aren't easily solved, even if you are completely awesome.
** There is an apocryphal tale that his novel most famous for the above tendency, ''TheNumberOfTheBeast'', is one he wrote deliberately trying to prove he could write a bad novel. He failed, in that it [[SpringtimeForHitler turned out to be one of his best sellers ever]]. Apparently he was enough of a good writer that even when he tried to suck, it was ''still'' entertaining.
* The ''HouseOfNight'' series by P.C. and Kristin Cast is remarkable for its all-Sue character lineup. Start with the worst possible use of OurVampiresAreDifferent, and go from there.
* Most of the characters in TheVampireChronicles qualify.
* ''TheInheritanceCycle'' and ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' are both regularly accused of nearly every main character being a MarySue. In recent years, this trope has tended to center on elves and vampires a lot.
* In Ralph Nader's ''[[OnlyTheSuperRichCanSaveUs "Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us!"]]'', all of the good guys sound remarkably like Nader.
* Everyone in the BattleRoyale novel is either a MarySue or CannonFodder that almost invariably dies in the first chapter they appear.
* [[YourMileageMayVary Arguably]], the entire cast of Douglas Hill's young-adult novels ''Blade of the Poisoner'' and ''Master of Fiends''. [[http://topazlily.livejournal.com/tag/poisoner Judge for yourself.]]
* Arguably, anyone in John Maddox Roberts's ''Stormlands'' series who's not a RedShirt, a complete incompetent, or both.
* Steven Erikson's MalazanBookOfTheFallen series is, as the title suggests, a particularly [[KillEmAll messy]] example of the 'Sues starting to cancel each other out' part of this. Pretty much ''every single character'' would qualify as the undisputed Sue of another story in some manner - the real joy is in seeing how they all [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny interact]].
* ''[[{{Emberverse}} Dies the Fire]]'' by [=~S. M. Stirling~=] is full of amazing people who just happen to be loaded with unusual and cool skills. Perhaps a JustifiedTrope here, in that [[spoiler: society did sort of collapse overnight, and a lot of those skills that seem cool but a bit impractical to us now suddenly become crucial to their survival]]. This justification doesn't quite cover the fairly esoteric languages ''everyone'' just happens to speak fluently, though.
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[[folder:Live-ActionTelevision]]
* {{Charmed}} in later seasons, especially Wyatt, Chris and Billie.
* TheWestWing, yet somehow it works.
* {{NCIS}} can sometimes seem like this when the creators' urge to make everyone a BadAss gets out of hand.
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[[folder:TabletopGames]]
* A common accusation of ''{{Exalted}}'' is that the rules almost ensure a MarySue character of one variety or another. Between the [[TheChosenOne Exalted]], gods, [[InTheBlood God-Blooded]], [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons]], FairFolk, and some of the more powerful ghosts, the number of potential Sues reaches somewhere in the ''hundreds of thousands''. Hell, if you only count the Exalted as potential Sues that still puts the number around 12,000 or so (including Alchemicals).
** Your mileage may vary, though; Rule of Cool, Rule of Funny, and a huge helping of So Cool It's Awesome can easily push the Mary Sue characters (basically the entire cast) into Ace territory.
* ''{{Warhammer 40000}}'' Any SpaceMarine codex written by Matt Ward will contain at least three Mary Sues. The most infamous of these being [[GreyKnights Kaldor]] [[GodModeSue Draigo]], the Sanguinor and the rewritten Mephiston. And that's before you get to the {{Ultramarines}}.
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[[folder:Web Comics]]
* The picture at the top is from ''[[http://piratemonkeysinc.com/ms1.htm House Sparklypoo]]'', a webcomic that has great fun [[PlayingWithATrope playing with]] Sue stereotypes.
* The ''{{Walkyverse}}'' introduces at least one Mary Sue with every installment, as well as a new SelfInsert. Interestingly enough, in the latest entry into the verse, the Mary Sue and the SelfInsert were separate characters.
* ''{{Sonichu}}'', of course, has a bad case of this. You've got the title character, his girlfriend, the author's self-insert, the author's various "sweethearts"... In fact, a comment on the ''Sonichu'' article about it being a "nine mary sue pileup" was the inspiration for this trope.
* The page quote from ''ErrantStory'' describes 3 of the 4 main cast members. The last one is a skilled elven warrior, who is considered an outcast among her people, with an even more troubled past partly due to [[MayflyDecemberRomance falling in love with a human]]. None of them are actual [[ParodySue Parody Sues]]. The comic still [[BetterThanItSounds gets away with it]], thanks to a combination of good writing, actual character flaws, and liberal application of [[DeadpanSnarker Deadpan Snarkers ]] and {{Lampshading}}. According to an ad at the site, the author recently did a 'workshop' called "How to write Mary sues, tropes and cliches, and get away with it".
* BobAndGeorge community has a lot of Autor Avatars, most of which are GodModeSue. They often appear in each other's fancomics. The most suited example is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Autors' wars.]]
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[[folder:Web Original]]
* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=gjielbtm2zufd07myzd47kca&page=1#23 Battle of the Sues]] from the Forum Games.
* Likewise, most of the Pantheon/{{Disgraces}} of the Trope Pantheon, and the stories written about them. (although all written as [[ParodySue Parody Sues]]) Far from all, mind you. (though the Sues [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking tend to be in charge]])
* [[KingdomHearts Organization]] [[http://org-infinity.deviantart.com/ Infinity]], a DeviantArt clusterfuck of over ''two-hundred and seventy-five'' (and counting!) Organization!Sues, each with progressively more stupid "elements" and [[ImprobableWeaponUser weapons of choice.]]
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* ''MyImmortal'' long ago passed the Sue Event Horizon. You have the main character, AuthorAvatar Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way, her friend's character Willow, and [[PossessionSue total character rehauls]] for [[DracoInLeatherPants Draco]], Harry, Hermione, Ron, [[strike:Hagrid]] "Hargrid" (inexplicably a Hogwarts student), Ginny, Neville, Crabbe, Goyle, and Professor [[strike:Trelawny]] "Trevolry" (a.k.a. Professor [[strike:Sinistra]] "Sinister"). They all become "goffik"; wear only Hot Topic clothes, listen to the same bands she does, cut themselves, look like singers from her favorite bands, and all the guys become bisexual. When she goes back in time, similar treatments are given to James, [[strike:Sirius]] "Serious", [[strike:Lucius]] Lucian, Tom "Satan" Riddle (a.k.a. Tom Bombadil), and Hedwig (actually a male bisexual wizard). Strangely, [[strike:[[EstrogenBrigadeBait Snape]]]] [[EstrogenBrigadeBait "Snap"]] is cast as a major villain.

* ''ShinjiAndWarhammer40K'' is [[LoveItOrHateIt possible]] proof of the mantra TropesAreNotBad. Piling almost every MarySue trope onto Shinji at once turns out to be awesome. And the funny thing is WordOfGod states that the point of the fic was to ''avert'' the tendency of Shinji becoming any kind of Sue to achieve happiness. That went over about as well as [[MisaimedFandom Rei]] [[MoeMoe being]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint creepy]].

[[caption-width-right:350:[[ThereCanBeOnlyOne What]] ''[[ThereCanBeOnlyOne should]]'' [[ThereCanBeOnlyOne happen when one of these occurs]]]]

[[caption-width-right:350:[[ThereCanOnlyBeOne What]] ''[[ThereCanBeOnlyOne should]]'' [[ThereCanBeOnlyOne happen when one of these occurs]]]]

* ''TheInheritanceCycle'' and ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' are both regularly accused of nearly every main character being a MarySue. This trope tends to center on elves and vampires a lot.

* ''FanFic/HowIBecameYours'' - The entire [[FanNickname Gaang]] from ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'', save Sokka (his {{Badass Normal}}ity stops just short) and Aang (who doesn't really show up enough).

* ''LightAndDarkTheAdventuresOfDarkYagami'' starts out with just the one stu - Dark Yagami. Then comes [[CharacterDerailment Canon Derailed]] Sayu, Night Yagami (Dark's evil(er) clone), [[MindScrew Shakespeare's Shinigami]]... And later comes Day Yagami, [[strike:Darknight]] Dawn Yagami, Dusk Yagami (also a robot), all of them clones from the original Sue, Dark.

* ''HowIBecameYours'' - The entire [[FanNickname Gaang]] from ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'', save Sokka (his {{Badass Normal}}ity stops just short) and Aang (who doesn't really show up enough).

* ''{{Warhammer 40000}}'' Any race with a codex written by Matt Ward since 2009 is composed entirely of Mary Sues. "{{Your Mileage May Vary}}"

** There is an apocryphal tale that his novel most famous for the above tendency, "Number Of The Beast", is one he wrote deliberately trying to prove he could write a bad novel. He failed, in that it [[SpringtimeForHitler turned out to be one of his best sellers ever]]. Apparently he was enough of a good writer that even when he tried to suck, it was ''still'' entertaining.

* [[KingdomHearts Organization]] [[http://org-infinity.deviantart.com/ Infinity]], a DeviantArt clusterfuck of over ''two-hundred and seventy-five'' (and counting!) Organization!Sues, each with progressively more stupid "elements" and [[ImprobableWeaponUser weapons of choice.]] Has its own [[http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Org_Infinity page]] ({{NSFW}}) at EncyclopediaDramatica.

[[caption-width-right:350:[[ThereCanOnlyBeOne What]] ''[[ThereCanBeOnlyOne should]]'' [[ThereCanBeOnlyhOne happen when one of these occurs]]]]

[[caption-width-right:350:What ''should'' happen when one of these occurs]]

* ''MyImmortal'' long ago passed the Sue Event Horizon. You have the main character, AuthorAvatar Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way, her friend's character Willow, and [[PossessionSue total character rehauls]] for [[DracoInLeatherPants Draco]], Harry, Hermione, Ron, [[strike:Hagrid]] "Hargrid" (inexplicably a Hogwarts student), Ginny, Neville, Crabbe, Goyle, and Professor [[strike:Trelawny]] "Trevolry" (a.k.a. Professor [[strike:Sinistra]] "Sinister"). They all become "goffik"; wear only Hot Topic clothes, listen to the same bands she does, cut themselves, look like singers from her favorite bands, and all the guys become bisexual. When she goes back in time, similar treatments are given to James, [[strike:Sirius]] "Serious", [[strike:Lucius]] Lucian, Tom "Satan" Riddle (a.k.a. Tom Bombadil), and Hedwig ([[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer actually a male bisexual wizard]]). Strangely, [[strike:[[EstrogenBrigadeBait Snape]]]] [[EstrogenBrigadeBait "Snap"]] is cast as a major villain.

->'''Meji''': ...so... um... you're Jon's [[LongLostSibling long lost, estranged sister]], who's been turned into an [[EmotionlessGirl emotionless]] magic Ninja assasin by some [[AllMonksKnowKungFu secret order of monks]] [[ShamgriLa hidden in the mountains]]? That's like, really, kinda freaking stupid if you don't mind me saying. And I thought your brother's whole '[[HitmanWithAHeart hitman with a troubled past and a heart of gold]]' bit was bad.\\

* The page quote from ''ErrantStory'' describes 3 of the 4 main cast members. The last one is a skilled elven warrior, who is considered an outcast among her people, with an even more troubled past partly due to [[MayflyDecemberRomance falling in love with a human]]. None of them are actual [[ParodySue Parody Sues]]. The comic still [[BetterThanItSounds gets away with it]], thanks to a combination of good writing, actual character flaws, and liberal application of [[DeadpanSnarker Deadpan Snarkers ]] and [[LampShade Lampshading]]. According to an ad at the site, the author recently did a 'workshop' called "How to write Mary sues, tropes and cliches, and get away with it".
* BobAndGeorge comumnity has a lot of Autor Avatars, most of which are GodModeSue. They often appear in each other's fancomics. The most suited example is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Autors' wars.]]

* TheInheritanceCycle and {{Twilight}} are both regularly accused of nearly every main character being a MarySue. This trope tends to center on elves and vampires a lot.

* ''{{Warhammer 40000}}'' Any race with a codex written by Matt Ward since 2009 is composed entirely of Mary Sues.

* ''MyImmortal'' long ago passed the Sue Event Horizon. You have the main character, AuthorAvatar Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way, her friend's character Willow, and [[PossessionSue total character rehauls]] for [[DracoInLeatherPants Draco]], Harry, Hermione, Ron, [[strike:Hagrid]] "Hargrid" (inexplicably a Hogwarts student), Ginny, Neville, Crabbe, Goyle, and Professor [[strike:Trelawny]] "Trevolry" (a.k.a. Professor [[strike:Sinistra]] "Sinister"). They all become "goffik"; wear only Hot Topic clothes, listen to the same bands she does, cut themselves, look like singers from her favorite bands, and all the guys become bisexual. When she goes back in time, similar treatments are given to James, [[strike:Sirius]] "Serious", [[strike:Lucius]] Lucian, Tom "Satan" Riddle (a.k.a. Tom Bombadil), and Hedwig (actually a male bisexual wizard). Strangely, [[strike:[[EstrogenBrigadeBait Snape]]]] [[EstrogenBrigadeBait "Snap"]] is cast as a major villain.

* The author's self insert and his friends in the SoBadItsHorrible SailorMoon / {{Urotsukidoji}} crossover, "The Coming of Munihausen." The same can be said for most of the villains as well.

* Played for comedy in HagridAndTheSkoolgurlz. The band goes to Fanfic, California, a city where [[MarySue sues]] go when Hogwarts sends them away. Voldemort, trying to compete with the titular band, makes a whole band out of sues, called [[XtremeKoolLetterz Midnight Xtasy.]]

--> -- ''ErrantStory'', whose lightbulb [[LampShade must be nearly invisible by now]].