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* ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' had a non-canon story by writer Creator/StanLee and artist Marcos Martin's non-canon story "Identity Crisis" (not to be confused with the in-canon 616 story of the same name) printed as a backup ''Spidey Sunday Stories'' where Spider-Man goes to a psychologist Dr. Gray Madder (a pun on gray matter) and talking to him about his identity issues, which involve the constant changes and endless retcons to his supporting cast and rogues, such as his Aunt May being alive and dead, his marriage to MJ being retconned in and out, her being pregnant and not, Green Goblin dying and coming back, lampshading the bizarre changes to Spider-Man continuity that actually [[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/HfuEa1RFqgP_nHpxTN9RUm1KUj2b1nYENXek_G1pKDXuxiqhY752bcWhqIwILbLIV92F9_RXpUlB=s1600 drives Dr. Gray Madder nuts and has him going to a shrink.]]

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* ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' had a ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': A non-canon story by writer Creator/StanLee and artist Marcos Martin's non-canon story "Identity Crisis" (not to be confused with the in-canon 616 story of the same name) printed as a backup ''Spidey Sunday Stories'' where had Spider-Man goes to a psychologist Dr. Gray Madder (a pun on gray matter) and talking to him about his identity issues, which involve the constant changes and endless retcons to his supporting cast and rogues, such as his Aunt May being alive and dead, his marriage to MJ being retconned in and out, her being pregnant and not, Green Goblin dying and coming back, lampshading the bizarre changes to Spider-Man continuity that actually [[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/HfuEa1RFqgP_nHpxTN9RUm1KUj2b1nYENXek_G1pKDXuxiqhY752bcWhqIwILbLIV92F9_RXpUlB=s1600 drives Dr. Gray Madder nuts and has him going to a shrink.]]
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* ''Series/ThirtyRock'': Played with in that none of the characters are practicing psychiatrists. Jack advises Liz to see a therapist and she goes to Kenneth, a page, and talks to him about her problem with trusting men. She assumes Kenneth will be fine dealing with her emotional baggage, only for it to invoke some of his own repressed traumas and Jack volunteers to be his therapist as he believes he can crush the issues in his 'mind vice'. This in turn unearths Jack's DaddyIssues.

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* ''Series/ThirtyRock'': Played with in that none of the characters are practicing psychiatrists. Jack advises Liz to see a therapist and she goes to Kenneth, a page, and talks to him about her problem with trusting men. She assumes Kenneth will be fine dealing with her emotional baggage, only for it to invoke some of his own repressed traumas and traumas. Jack volunteers to be his therapist Kenneth's therapist, as he believes he can crush the issues in his 'mind vice'. This in turn unearths Jack's DaddyIssues.
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->'''Scott:''' You don't know what it's like to go to therapy!\\

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'''Scott:''' You're a therapist! Where do you go to therapy?\\

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'''Scott:''' '''Scott Wozniak:''' You're a therapist! Where do you go to therapy?\\
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'''Gerry Attricks:''' Hey, I got a life outside of this job! I go to therapy twice a week!\\

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'''Gerry '''Jerry Attricks:''' Hey, I got a life outside of this job! I go to therapy twice a week!\\



'''Gerry Attricks:''' The mirror.

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'''Gerry '''Jerry Attricks:''' The mirror.
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* Discussed in ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'': When the subject comes up of Grace possibly choosing this career, Grace mentions that if she became a therapist, she would probably need to see one herself, which she's leery of for some reason.

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* Discussed in ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'': When the subject comes up of Grace possibly choosing this career, Grace mentions that if she became a therapist, she would probably need to see one herself, which she's leery of for some reason.of, [[SarcasmMode for]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast some]] [[SelectiveObliviousness reason]].
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'''Therapist:''' Hey, I got a life outside of this job! I go to therapy twice a week!\\

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'''Therapist:''' '''Gerry Attricks:''' Hey, I got a life outside of this job! I go to therapy twice a week!\\



'''Therapist:''' The mirror.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'': [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in "PC Principal: Final Justice". Mr. Mackey is revealed to be the one who got Principal Victoria fired because he was tired of always being bossed around by her. When she asks why he didn't just talk to her about it, he claims that nobody ever listens and that they all just expect him to listen to their problems. Gerald then professes that maybe everyone should have realized that sometimes even a counselor needs counseling.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'': [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in the episode "PC Principal: Final Justice". Mr. Mackey is revealed to be the one who got Principal Victoria fired because he was tired of always being bossed around by her. When she asks asked why he didn't just talk to her about it, he claims that it's because nobody ever listens and that they all everyone just expect expects him to listen to their problems. problems, to which Gerald then professes that maybe everyone they all should have realized that sometimes even a counselor needs counseling.
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* ''Film/{{Prime}}'': Lisa (played by Creator/MerylStreep) sees a therapist frequently. She expresses various emotions about her son dating one of her patients.

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* ''Film/{{Prime}}'': ''Film/{{Prime|2005}}'': Lisa (played by Creator/MerylStreep) sees a therapist frequently. She expresses various emotions about her son dating one of her patients.
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* ''Series/{{Elementary}}'': While not a licensed therapist herself Joan Watson's work as a Sober Companion has a counselling element to it as she helps people through their recovery. During the first season she's occasionally seen checking in with a therapist of her own who expresses concern about some of the dangerous situations her work with Sherlock Holmes has put her in.

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While the idea of a person seeing a therapist has been gradually embraced in society, the concept of a therapist seeing a therapist is somewhat unusual. This isn't to say that therapists shouldn't be seeing therapists, but much like a chef going to another restaurant, the idea of a professional seeing another professional in their own field is actually quite fascinating. However, this is, needless to say, TruthInTelevision. Therapists are [[HumansAreFlawed as human as their patients]] and need mental health care as much as a dentist needs dental care. In fact, most therapists report having been in therapy themselves.

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While the idea of a person seeing a therapist has been gradually embraced in society, the concept of a therapist seeing a therapist is somewhat unusual. This isn't to say that therapists shouldn't be seeing therapists, but much like a chef going to another restaurant, the idea of a professional seeing another professional in their own field is actually quite fascinating.

However, this is, needless to say, TruthInTelevision. Therapists are [[HumansAreFlawed as human as their patients]] and need mental health care as much as a dentist needs dental care. In fact, most therapists report having been in therapy themselves.
themselves and some jurisdictions actually require therapists attend sessions as a condition of maintaining their licenses.


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* ''Series/{{Frasier}}'': The titular character spends an episode on another psychiatrist's couch unloading the problems he faces at work and at home. In the end, it's revealed that the session is Frasier's annual licensing check up and he and the psychiatrist swap places so that the other doctor can get his own out of the way.
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While the idea of a person seeing a therapist has been gradually embraced in society, the concept of a therapist seeing a therapist is somewhat unusual. This isn't to say that therapists shouldn't be seeing therapists, but much like a chef going to another restaurant, the idea of a professional seeing another professional in their own field is actually quite fascinating. However, this is, needless to say, TruthInTelevision. Therapists are [[HumansAreFlawed as human as their patients]] and need mental health as much as a dentist needs dental care. In fact, most therapists report having been in therapy themselves.

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While the idea of a person seeing a therapist has been gradually embraced in society, the concept of a therapist seeing a therapist is somewhat unusual. This isn't to say that therapists shouldn't be seeing therapists, but much like a chef going to another restaurant, the idea of a professional seeing another professional in their own field is actually quite fascinating. However, this is, needless to say, TruthInTelevision. Therapists are [[HumansAreFlawed as human as their patients]] and need mental health care as much as a dentist needs dental care. In fact, most therapists report having been in therapy themselves.
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* ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' had a non-canon story by writer Creator/StanLee and artist Marcos Martin's non-canon story "Identity Crisis" (not to be confused with the in-canon 616 story of the same name) printed as a backup ''Spidey Sunday Stories'' where Spider-Man goes to a psychologist Dr. Gray Madder (a pun on gray matter) and talking to him about his identity issues, which involve the constant changes and endless retcons to his supporting cast and rogues, such as his Aunt May being alive and dead, his marriage to MJ being retconned in and out, her being pregnant and not, Green Goblin dying and coming back, lampshading the bizarre changes to Spider-Man continuity that actually drives Dr. Gray Madder nuts and has him going to a shrink.\

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* ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' had a non-canon story by writer Creator/StanLee and artist Marcos Martin's non-canon story "Identity Crisis" (not to be confused with the in-canon 616 story of the same name) printed as a backup ''Spidey Sunday Stories'' where Spider-Man goes to a psychologist Dr. Gray Madder (a pun on gray matter) and talking to him about his identity issues, which involve the constant changes and endless retcons to his supporting cast and rogues, such as his Aunt May being alive and dead, his marriage to MJ being retconned in and out, her being pregnant and not, Green Goblin dying and coming back, lampshading the bizarre changes to Spider-Man continuity that actually [[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/HfuEa1RFqgP_nHpxTN9RUm1KUj2b1nYENXek_G1pKDXuxiqhY752bcWhqIwILbLIV92F9_RXpUlB=s1600 drives Dr. Gray Madder nuts and has him going to a shrink.\]]

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While the idea of a person seeing a therapist has been gradually embraced in society, the concept of a therapist seeing a therapist is somewhat unusual. This isn't to say that therapists shouldn't be seeing therapists, but much like a chef going to another restaurant, the idea of a professional seeing another professional in their own field is actually quite fascinating. However, this is, needless to say, TruthInTelevision. Therapists need mental health as much as a dentist needs dental care. In fact, most therapists report having been in therapy themselves.

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While the idea of a person seeing a therapist has been gradually embraced in society, the concept of a therapist seeing a therapist is somewhat unusual. This isn't to say that therapists shouldn't be seeing therapists, but much like a chef going to another restaurant, the idea of a professional seeing another professional in their own field is actually quite fascinating. However, this is, needless to say, TruthInTelevision. Therapists are [[HumansAreFlawed as human as their patients]] and need mental health as much as a dentist needs dental care. In fact, most therapists report having been in therapy themselves.


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* ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' had a non-canon story by writer Creator/StanLee and artist Marcos Martin's non-canon story "Identity Crisis" (not to be confused with the in-canon 616 story of the same name) printed as a backup ''Spidey Sunday Stories'' where Spider-Man goes to a psychologist Dr. Gray Madder (a pun on gray matter) and talking to him about his identity issues, which involve the constant changes and endless retcons to his supporting cast and rogues, such as his Aunt May being alive and dead, his marriage to MJ being retconned in and out, her being pregnant and not, Green Goblin dying and coming back, lampshading the bizarre changes to Spider-Man continuity that actually drives Dr. Gray Madder nuts and has him going to a shrink.\
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* Discussed in ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'': When the subject comes up of Grace possibly choosing this career, Grace mentions that if she became a therapist, she would probably need to see one herself, which she's leery of for some reason.
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** The second installment, reviewing ''VideoGame/MarioTennis: UltraSmash'', opens with the therapist giving himself a pep talk in front of his mirror.

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** The second installment, reviewing ''VideoGame/MarioTennis: UltraSmash'', Ultra Smash'', opens with the therapist giving himself a pep talk in front of his mirror.

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-->'''Scott:''' You don't know what it's like to go to therapy!
-->'''Therapist:''' Hey, I got a life outside of this job! I go to therapy twice a week!
-->'''Scott:''' You're a therapist! Where do you go to therapy?
-->'''Therapist:''' The mirror.

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* Parodied in the ''WebVideo/ScottTheWoz'' review of ''VideoGame/MarioTennisUltraSmash'', in which Scott's therapist assures Scott that the therapist knows what it's like to go to therapy, as ''he'' goes to therapy twice a week. Scott asks where a therapist goes to therapy, and his therapist says, "The mirror." This becomes a BrickJoke later when the therapist screams into his mirror about how annoyed he is with Scott.
** In the finale of the Dark age of Nintendo miniseries ''Videogame/ChibiRoboZiplash'', the Therapist is forced to get therapy from Scott, [[MakesAsMuchSenseInContext who decided to repress everything after playing Ziplash and become a therapist]], because his mirror is in the shop.

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* Parodied PlayedForLaughs in the ''WebVideo/ScottTheWoz'' review mini-series "The Dark Age of ''VideoGame/MarioTennisUltraSmash'', in which Nintendo":
** In the first installment, reviewing ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing: amiibo Festival'',
Scott's therapist assures Scott that the therapist he knows what it's like to go to therapy, as ''he'' goes to therapy he does it twice a week. Scott asks where a therapist goes to therapy, and his therapist says, "The mirror." This becomes a BrickJoke later when the therapist screams into his mirror about how annoyed he is with Scott.
** The second installment, reviewing ''VideoGame/MarioTennis: UltraSmash'', opens with the therapist giving himself a pep talk in front of his mirror.
** In the finale of the Dark age of Nintendo miniseries ''Videogame/ChibiRoboZiplash'', the Therapist final installment, reviewing ''VideoGame/ChibiRobo: Zip Lash'', Scott's therapist is forced to get therapy from Scott, [[MakesAsMuchSenseInContext who had decided to repress everything after playing Ziplash the game and become a therapist]], because his mirror is in the shop.
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* The short-lived Creator/TedDanson sitcom ''Help Me Help You'' had his character Dr. Bill Hoffman as a therapist who also attended group therapy with several other therapists.
* ''Series/HowToGetAwayWithMurder'': Isaac Roa, a psychiatrist Annalise sees in season 4, also sees his ex-wife Jacqueline for his own therapy. And yes, the fact that that's a conflict of interest is brought up.
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** In the finale of the Dark age of Nintendo miniseries ''Videogame/ChibiRoboZiplash'', the Therapist is forced to get therapy from Scott, [[MakesAsMuchSenseInContext who decided to repress everything after playing Ziplash and become a therapist]], because his mirror is in the shop.
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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'': [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in "PC Principal: Final Justice". Mr. Mackey is revealed to be the one who got Principal Victoria fired because he was tired of always being bossed around by her. When she asks why he didn't just talk to her about it, he claims that nobody ever listens and that they all just expect him to listen to their problems. Gerald then professes that maybe everyone should have realized that sometimes even a counselor needs counselling.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'': [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in "PC Principal: Final Justice". Mr. Mackey is revealed to be the one who got Principal Victoria fired because he was tired of always being bossed around by her. When she asks why he didn't just talk to her about it, he claims that nobody ever listens and that they all just expect him to listen to their problems. Gerald then professes that maybe everyone should have realized that sometimes even a counselor needs counselling.
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* One of the requirements for a would-be psychoanalyst is to have undergone a psychoanalytic cure himself, called "training analysis."

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* One of the requirements for a would-be psychoanalyst is to have undergone a psychoanalytic cure himself, themselves, called "training analysis."" Even if a psychology program doesn't mandate this, it is highly encouraged that students regularly attend therapy themselves in order to better process the emotions they'll go through while helping others with their issues, and are urged to continue doing so if possible once they're actively working in the field.

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* ''Webcomic/Level30Psychiatry'': Dr. Gardevoir, being the only qualified Psychiatrist in a world of video game characters, attempts to give herself therapy but in doing so manifests a split personality glasses wearing version of herself who shows up at inopportune times to try and help her work through her problems.

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* ''Webcomic/Level30Psychiatry'': Dr. Gardevoir, being the only qualified Psychiatrist in a world of video game characters, attempts to give herself therapy but in doing so manifests a split personality glasses wearing glasses-wearing version of herself who shows up at inopportune times to try and help her work through her problems.



* ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'': Played for laughs in the short WesternAnimation/PunchTrunk, where a therapist is listening to a patient and taking notes, before the five-inch elephant that is the star of the short wanders onto his desk, and drinks his water. The therapist then assumes he?s going a bit bonkers, and promptly swaps places with the patient, placing himself on his FreudianCouch and talking about his life in the same manner as the patient was before then.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': In the episode "Yokel Chords", Bart traumatizes the students of Springfield Elementary (and some staff members, including the school therapist) with a story about a murderous cafeteria cook, Dark Stanley. He is sent to see a professional therapist as a result, and they connected easily. After Bart's final therapy session, his therapist began to miss him and obsess over him, and talks about this to her own therapist, who theorizes she sees Bart as a replacement for her own son, who was [[RealAfterAll murdered by Dark Stanley.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'': Played for laughs in the short WesternAnimation/PunchTrunk, where a therapist is listening to a patient and taking notes, before the five-inch elephant that is the star of the short wanders onto his desk, and drinks his water. The therapist then assumes he?s he's going a bit bonkers, and promptly swaps places with the patient, placing himself on his FreudianCouch and talking about his life in the same manner as the patient was before then.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': In the episode "Yokel Chords", Bart traumatizes the students of Springfield Elementary (and some staff members, including the school therapist) with a story about a murderous cafeteria cook, Dark Stanley. He is sent to see a professional therapist as a result, and they connected easily. After Bart's final therapy session, his therapist began to miss him and obsess over him, him and talks about this to her own therapist, who theorizes she sees Bart as a replacement for her own son, who was [[RealAfterAll murdered by Dark Stanley.]]



* Religious equivalent: priests also have to undergo the sacrament of penance, and they cannot do it themselves. Even UsefulNotes/ThePope has [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preacher_of_the_Papal_Household his own confessor]].

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-->'''Therapist:''' The mirror.
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The field of psychotherapy and people's understanding and reception of it has evolved in recent history. What was once derided and stigmatized as a sign of weakness and an expensive placebo has gradually been taken more seriously by people who have come to realize the importance of mental health and wellbeing.

While the idea of a person seeing a therapist has been gradually embraced in society, the concept of a therapist seeing a therapist is somewhat unusual. This isn't to say that therapists shouldn't be seeing therapists, but much like a chef going to another restaurant, the idea of a professional seeing another professional in their own field is actually quite fascinating. However, this is, needless to say, TruthInTelevision. Therapists need mental health as much as a dentist needs dental care. In fact, most therapists report having been in therapy themselves.

Compare TheCobblersChildrenHaveNoShoes.

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* ''Film/{{Prime}}'': Lisa (played by Creator/MerylStreep) sees a therapist frequently. She expresses various emotions about her son dating one of her patients.
* ''Film/WhatAboutBob'': Dr. Leo Marvin is driven to madness, and a mental hospital, after being forced to contend with the eponymous Bob.

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* ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'': This is the case for Hannibal Lecter, a psychiatrist who is, in turn, seeing his own psychiatrist. Said psychiatrist happens to be his mentor, Dr. Bedelia Du Maurier, who later becomes involved with Hannibal's criminal life.
* ''Series/InTreatment'': Dr. Paul Weston, a private psychotherapist, sees Dr. Diane Tull, his therapist and mentor, at the end of the week after seeing his own patients.
* ''Series/TheSopranos'': Dr. Jennifer Melfi is shown to be seeing a therapist due to her guilt over losing a patient to suicide because of Tony Soprano telling her to go on the lam.
* ''Series/TedLasso'': Dr. Sharon Fieldstone consults with a professional colleague over the phone about her frustrations with Ted, in particular his tendency to deflect when pressed.
* ''Series/ThirtyRock'': Played with in that none of the characters are practicing psychiatrists. Jack advises Liz to see a therapist and she goes to Kenneth, a page, and talks to him about her problem with trusting men. She assumes Kenneth will be fine dealing with her emotional baggage, only for it to invoke some of his own repressed traumas and Jack volunteers to be his therapist as he believes he can crush the issues in his 'mind vice'. This in turn unearths Jack's DaddyIssues.

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* ''Webcomic/Level30Psychiatry'': Dr. Gardevoir, being the only qualified Psychiatrist in a world of video game characters, attempts to give herself therapy but in doing so manifests a split personality glasses wearing version of herself who shows up at inopportune times to try and help her work through her problems.

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* Parodied in the ''WebVideo/ScottTheWoz'' review of ''VideoGame/MarioTennisUltraSmash'', in which Scott's therapist assures Scott that the therapist knows what it's like to go to therapy, as ''he'' goes to therapy twice a week. Scott asks where a therapist goes to therapy, and his therapist says, "The mirror." This becomes a BrickJoke later when the therapist screams into his mirror about how annoyed he is with Scott.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'': In the first episode, Warner Bros. Studios' psychiatrist Dr. Scratchansniff recounts to another psychiatrist on his first meeting and sessions with the Warner siblings, whom he was put on duty to "de-zanitize". They instead drove him crazy, hence Scratchansniff needing to see a therapist.
* ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'': Played for laughs in the short WesternAnimation/PunchTrunk, where a therapist is listening to a patient and taking notes, before the five-inch elephant that is the star of the short wanders onto his desk, and drinks his water. The therapist then assumes he?s going a bit bonkers, and promptly swaps places with the patient, placing himself on his FreudianCouch and talking about his life in the same manner as the patient was before then.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': In the episode "Yokel Chords", Bart traumatizes the students of Springfield Elementary (and some staff members, including the school therapist) with a story about a murderous cafeteria cook, Dark Stanley. He is sent to see a professional therapist as a result, and they connected easily. After Bart's final therapy session, his therapist began to miss him and obsess over him, and talks about this to her own therapist, who theorizes she sees Bart as a replacement for her own son, who was [[RealAfterAll murdered by Dark Stanley.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'': [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in "PC Principal: Final Justice". Mr. Mackey is revealed to be the one who got Principal Victoria fired because he was tired of always being bossed around by her. When she asks why he didn't just talk to her about it, he claims that nobody ever listens and that they all just expect him to listen to their problems. Gerald then professes that maybe everyone should have realized that sometimes even a counselor needs counselling.

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* One of the requirements for a would-be psychoanalyst is to have undergone a psychoanalytic cure himself, called "training analysis."
* Religious equivalent: priests also have to undergo the sacrament of penance, and they cannot do it themselves. Even UsefulNotes/ThePope has [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preacher_of_the_Papal_Household his own confessor]].

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