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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'',Frollo pursues an insanely harsh and fundamentalist interpretation of Christianity. In the process, he commits numerous sins while trying to "God's work", including pride and wrath. By the end of the movie, [[spoiler: he goes so far as burn the very cathedral he claimed to defend, becoming the Satanic being he claimed to oppose]].
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** The [[OurGodsAreDifferent Aedra and the Daedra]] are typically viewed as opposites, particularly by mortals. Good and Evil. [[OrderVersusChaos Order and Chaos]]. Light and Dark. [[GodIsGood Gods of Good]] and [[GodIsEvil Gods of Evil]]. [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Angels]] and [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Demons]]. However, prior to the [[CreationMyth creation of Mundus]], the mortal plane, there was no distinction made between these et'Ada ("original spirits"). The Aedra are simply the et'Ada who participated in creation (which is why their name means "our ancestors" in [[ClassicalTongue Old Aldmeris]], while the Daedra ("not our ancestors") did not. This is why scholars and, in a few cases, the deities themselves, are quick to point out that these are beings truly AboveGoodAndEvil who operate on their own BlueAndOrangeMorality. Anyone trying to classify them as such is simply trying to apply mortal moralities to immortal beings, which is a foolhardy endeavor.
** Vivec, the [[PhysicalGod Tribunal deity]], clearly was never a big fan of the [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]]. As one of [[FounderOfTheKingdom Nerevar's]] councilors, Vivec believed that peace could not be had between the Chimer and Dwemer. He later urged Nerevar to make war on the Dwemer when evidence was brought forth that showed they were in possession of the [[CosmicKeystone Heart of Lorkhan]] and were attempting to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence tap into its power]]. However, Vivec would later draw his own divine powers from the Heart and the AGodAmI-type response he gives if you question his past actions is ''very'' similar to the one he attributes to the [[MadScientist Dwemer Architect Kagrenac]] when Nerevar originally questioned him about the Heart in ''The Battle of Red Mountain'':
----> '''Vivec''': ''"Can you, mortal, presume to judge the actions and motives of a god?"''
----> '''Kagrenac''' (per Vivec): ''"But Kagrenac took great offense, and asked whom Nerevar thought he was, that he might presume to judge the affairs of the Dwemer."''
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Can be related to EnemyMine, wherein two enemies nevertheless realise they have a common goal and decide to work together to achieve it. Conversely, it can be related to YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, when enemies ''don't'' realise they have a lot in common. It may also explain why people [[CommieNazis tend to lump Communists and Nazis together in the popular imagination]]. See also VillainHasAPoint and JerkassHasAPoint, when characters the heroes and the author represent negatively nevertheless are in the right for once (and StrawmanHasAPoint, when this happens unintentionally). For more information, see [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory this article]] on That Other Wiki.

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Compare MirrorCharacter, in which two characters are much more similar than they might appear. Can be related to EnemyMine, wherein two enemies nevertheless realise they have a common goal and decide to work together to achieve it. Conversely, it can be related to YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, when enemies ''don't'' realise they have a lot in common. It may also explain why people [[CommieNazis tend to lump Communists and Nazis together in the popular imagination]]. See also VillainHasAPoint and JerkassHasAPoint, when characters the heroes and the author represent negatively nevertheless are in the right for once (and StrawmanHasAPoint, when this happens unintentionally). For more information, see [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory this article]] on That Other Wiki.
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This trope is when two groups who are ostensibly ideologically opposed to each other [[NotSoDifferent actually have a lot of ideology in common]].

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** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', take a race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel into what it is today, who bull-headedly [[FantasticRacism looks down on other races]] and [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect professions]] that are commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were once skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the rival[[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreDifferent Altmer]] as of the 4th Era.

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** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', take a race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel into what it is today, who bull-headedly [[FantasticRacism looks down on other races]] and [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect professions]] that are commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were once skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the rival[[HornyVikings rival [[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreDifferent Altmer]] as of the 4th Era.
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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'':
** The Morag Tong is a legal [[OurElvesAreDifferent Dunmeri]] [[MurderInc assassin's guild]] of {{Professional Killer}}s. They hold Mephala, a Daedric Prince whose sphere is "obscured to mortals", but who is associated with [[ManipulativeBastard manipulation, lies, sex, and secrets]], as their patron deity. The Dark Brotherhood is an ''illegal'' assassin's guild (leaning closer to a PsychoForHire organization) which split off from the Morag Tong long ago. They practice a relative ReligionOfEvil, serving the "Dread Father" Sithis and his wife, the Night Mother, a mysterious entity who leads the Brotherhood and speaks through [[MouthOfSauron the Listener]] of the organization. According to some sources, the Night Mother may very well be an aspect of Mephala, meaning that both groups, despite their differences, are still dedicated to the same deity.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', Mages Guild Archmage Trebonius Artorius is an incredibly skilled [[MagicKnight Battlemage]], which allowed him to rise in the ranks of the Mages Guild. However, he quickly proved utterly incompetent at managing Guild affairs, so he was KickedUpstairs to be in charge of the Guild branch [[ReassignedToAntarctica in the most backwater district of the Empire]], keeping him out of the hair of his mainland superiors. In Morrowind, the Imperial Mages Guild has to compete with the native Dunmer [[TheClan Great House]] Telvanni, a [[TheMagocracy Magocracy]] made up of [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld ancient]] and [[EvilSorcerer rather amoral]] sorcerers, when it comes to the business of magical arts. Trebonius, notorious for assigning his underlings {{Impossible Task}}s, will demand that the PlayerCharacter [[GeneralRipper kill all of the Telvanni councilors]]. His eccentric demands and power without common sense actually make him ''very'' similar to a typical Telvanni mage lord, and his solution for dealing with them is exactly what a Telvanni would do to his rivals.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', take a race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel into what it is today, who bull-headedly [[FantasticRacism looks down on other races]] and [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect professions]] that are commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were once skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the rival[[HornyVikings Nords]] and the [[OurElvesAreDifferent Altmer]] as of the 4th Era.
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* The Website/YouTube news channel [[https://www.youtube.com/user/SyrianGirlpartisan Syrian Partisan Girl]] is this trope personified. She has a lot of fans on both the [[ThoseWackyNazis far-right]] and [[DirtyCommies far-left]] who both think she's one of them. And they're both right and wrong at the same time. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And that's all that will be said about that.]]

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* Franchise/MonsterVerse:
** Mostly of the hostile [[{{Kaiju}} Titans]] threaten to create ecosystem-destroying conditions on a regional, continental or global scale if they win, speculated by Monarch to be said Titans HostileTerraforming the environment to their liking. However, amongst the BigBad Titans that have had these goals, the [=MUTOs=] in ''Film/Godzilla2014'' are prehistoric creatures which are overall [[NonMaliciousMonster Non-Malicious Monsters]] who merely seek to survive and reproduce according to their instincts -- Ghidorah in ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'' by contrast, is [[spoiler:extraterrestrial in origin]] and is an unnaturally-{{sadist}}ic OmnicidalManiac, and the {{novelization}}s suggest Ghidorah is attempting to create an ecosphere-destroying extinction event not so much out of environmental necessity as out of malice and hatred for all other life.
** If there's just two things that all the human {{Contrasting Sequel Antagonist}}s of every film have in common besides being {{Knight Templar}}s, it's these: they don't care how many people have to die to see their plans through, and they're too reckless to care that their actions risk causing TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt.



* By the end of ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', the oppressive pigs running the farm are scarcely distinguishable (in appearance or beliefs) from the oppressive farmers they deposed. Contrary to CommonKnowledge, this was less about communism in general and more about Stalinism in particular -- Orwell was a Trotskyist and the story favors Snowball the Pig (Trotsky).



* By the end of ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', the oppressive pigs running the farm are scarcely distinguishable (in appearance or beliefs) from the oppressive farmers they deposed. Contrary to CommonKnowledge, this was less about communism in general and more about Stalinism in particular -- Orwell was a Trotskyist and the story favors Snowball the Pig (Trotsky).



* Although both German Communists and the Soviet Red Army are among the main enemies of the Freikorps in ''Literature/TheOutlaws'', the protagonist cannot help sympathy and admiration for their attitude, if not for their ideology. After all, he and many of his comrades are revolutionaries themselves and therefore way more eager to respect other revolutionaries rather than a government which they perceive as weak and corrupt. During his imprisonment, the hero even befriends an activist of the German Communist Party.
* In ''Literature/TheScrewtapeLetters'', the titular demon speaks about how any ideology can be used to turn a human to evil. He encourages creating zealots on both sides, and claims that after death their opposing souls can be blended into a most appetizing wine.
* ''Literature/SmallGods'' features an atheist character of such burning passion that it works just like belief in the gods. This was because he ''very specifically'' didn't believe in Om (in fact, he pointedly refused to believe in Om ''to Om's face''); another character who's a general atheist (in a "they're not real but there's no point thinking about it" way) just gets hit by lightning a lot.
* ''Literature/TheHandmaidsTale'':
** The book depicts radical feminists as having worked together with far-right religious fundamentalists on at least some issues that helped lead to the foundation of the theocratic state of Gilead (after which, the far-right fundamentalists turned around and slaughtered their former allies). Specifically, both had a similar disdain for things such as pornography and prostitution, among other issues.
** The earliest mentions and descriptions of Offred's mother make it sound like Offred was raised in a religious household, what with Offred mentioning that she watched ultra-conservative FemaleMisogynist preacher Serena Joy on TV as a child, or her mother's distaste for pornography and delight in burning it. As we later find out, Offred's mother was on the radical feminist side.



* In ''Literature/TheseWordsAreTrueAndFaithful,'' religious-right Pastor Mandeville agrees with Cassilda Saunders or other radical feminist lesbians on pornography, gay men's sexual freedom, and transgender issues. He even works with them in the Anti-Porn League.

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** The earliest mentions and descriptions of Offred's mother make it sound like Offred was raised in a religious household, what with Offred mentioning that she watched ultra-conservative FemaleMisogynist preacher Serena Joy on TV as a child, or her mother's distaste for pornography and delight in burning it. As we later find out, Offred's mother was on the
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* Although both German Communists and the Soviet Red Army are among the main enemies of the Freikorps in ''Literature/TheOutlaws'', the protagonist cannot help sympathy and admiration for their attitude, if not for their ideology. After all, he and many of his comrades are revolutionaries themselves and therefore way more eager to respect other revolutionaries rather than a government which they perceive as weak and corrupt. During his imprisonment, the hero even befriends an activist of the German Communist Party.
* In ''Literature/TheScrewtapeLetters'', the titular demon speaks about how any ideology can be used to turn a human to evil. He encourages creating zealots on both sides, and claims that after death their opposing souls can be blended into a most appetizing wine.
* ''Literature/SmallGods'' features an atheist character of such burning passion that it works just like belief in the gods. This was because he ''very specifically'' didn't believe in Om (in fact, he pointedly refused to believe in Om ''to Om's face''); another character who's a general atheist (in a "they're not real but there's no point thinking about it" way) just gets hit by lightning a lot.
* In ''Literature/TheseWordsAreTrueAndFaithful,'' religious-right Pastor Mandeville agrees with Cassilda Saunders or other radical feminist lesbians on pornography, gay men's sexual freedom, and transgender issues. He even works with them in the Anti-Porn League.
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For example, far-right fascist or theocratic governments, to advance the national agenda and engender absolute loyalty to God/the state, will interfere with individual rights such as freedom of speech, interfere with individual-institutional rights such as freedom of the press and media, seize property rights for service to God/the state, enact censorship laws, and even try to control the Individual's very own personal life via ThoughtCrime, punishing aberrant behavior such as homosexuality and the like. Meanwhile, in Marxist-Leninism, an ideal communist society would be a classless, stateless one, but the direct transition of a capitalist society into a communist one is held to be impossible, which is where "the Dictatorship of the Proletariat" comes in: the workers seize control of all private property. The Revolutionary Transitional government will engender absolute loyalty to the state among their citizens, interfere with individual rights, maintain rigid, censorious control of the press and media under the grounds that the state will eventually wither away once the reactionary enemy is defeated, eventually enact ThoughtCrime policies ostensibly to ensure that no reactionaries ever emerge, which means taking control of a person's individual life (up to and including their sexuality ''etc.'').

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For example, far-right fascist or theocratic governments, to advance the national agenda and engender absolute loyalty to God/the state, will interfere with individual rights such as freedom of speech, interfere with individual-institutional rights such as freedom of the press and media, seize property rights for service to God/the state, enact censorship laws, and even try to control the Individual's very own personal life via ThoughtCrime, punishing behavior considered as aberrant behavior such as homosexuality and the like. Meanwhile, in Marxist-Leninism, an ideal communist society would be a classless, stateless one, but the direct transition of a capitalist society into a communist one is held to be impossible, which is where "the Dictatorship of the Proletariat" comes in: the workers seize control of all private property. The Revolutionary Transitional government will engender absolute loyalty to the state among their citizens, interfere with individual rights, maintain rigid, censorious control of the press and media under the grounds that the state will eventually wither away once the reactionary enemy is defeated, eventually enact ThoughtCrime policies ostensibly to ensure that no reactionaries ever emerge, which means taking control of a person's individual life (up to and including their sexuality ''etc.'').
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* An InvokedTrope in ''Literature/TheManchurianCandidate'', where the Communist DeepCoverAgent is posing as a fervent anti-communist, plotting to gain dictatorial powers under the guise of a RedScare.

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* An InvokedTrope in ''Literature/TheManchurianCandidate'', where the Communist DeepCoverAgent is posing as a fervent anti-communist, plotting to gain dictatorial powers under the guise of a RedScare. In an introduction to a later edition of the novel, the author Richard Condon said he remembered reading an editorial which read something to the effect of, "If UsefulNotes/JosephMcCarthy were a paid Soviet agent, he could not do more to harm this country than he's doing now," and started to wonder, "What if he really *was*?"
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* An InvokedTrope in ''Literature/TheManchurianCandidate'', where the Communist DeepCoverAgent is posing as a fervent anti-communist, plotting to gain dictatorial powers under the guise of a RedScare.
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* In ''VideoGame/DivinityOriginalSinII'', Malady {{discusse|dTrope}}s how there's little practical difference between the {{omnicidal|Maniac}} chaos of the Voidwoken and the {{despoti|smJustifiesTheMeans}}s order of the [[ChurchMilitant Magisters]] -- in game, they both deliberately inflict terror, disarray, and mass death on the greater population, and both even make use of the Black Ring ApocalypseCult.

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* ''Series/SleeperCell'': Alex went from a Neo-Nazi who beat up Muslims to a Muslim terrorist (his Muslim wife is horrified by this). He tells some white supremacists about once being like them, and they retort that Alex is even now.



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* The song "Won't Get Fooled Again" by Music/TheWho tells the story of an idealistic young revolutionary. In the first few verses of the song, he sings praises of the revolution and how it will change things for the better. By the end of the song his tone is more cynical and disillusioned as he realizes that the new society created by the revolution is no better than the old society (specifically the lyrics "there's nothing in the streets / looks any different to me" and "{{meet the new boss}} / same as the old boss").
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* In the ''Literature/HumanxCommonwealth'' prequel ''Diuturnity's Dawn'', a [[AbsoluteXenophobe human-supremacist]] group has no problem [[EnemyMine teaming up]] with a [[InsectoidAliens thranx]]-supremacist group to plan a terrorist attack, since they share a mutual hatred, a total disregard for their own people's lives, and an opposition to the formation of TheFederation, and can agree to table the question of whose species is superior.


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* Demonstrated by ''VideoGame/Frostpunk'' via the Order and Faith paths. The Order path focuses on keeping people productive by suppressing discontent, while the Faith path keeps people productive by inspiring them with hope. However, as the trees go further on, both begin exercising increasingly brutal and oppressive means to enforce the captain's will, and are functionally identical by the time they hit the final law: New Order/New Faith.

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The Horseshoe effect, however, argues that this is not so. Rather than a linear spectrum from left to right, political ideologies all sit on a curved, horseshoe-shaped arc, in which the two extremes of the spectrum are closer to each other than they are to the centre of the spectrum, and they have less "space" between them than less-extreme points do (if this sounds like a MindScrew, [[MindScrewdriver look at the page image again]]). This means that the more radical and extreme an individual's political beliefs get, the more they come to resemble the beliefs of individuals on the "opposite" end of the political spectrum.

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The Horseshoe In the case of the horseshoe effect, however, argues that this is not so. Rather than a linear spectrum from left to right, political ideologies all sit on a curved, horseshoe-shaped arc, in which the two extremes of the spectrum are closer to each other than they are to the centre of the spectrum, and they have less "space" between them than less-extreme points do (if this sounds like a MindScrew, [[MindScrewdriver look at the page image again]]). This means that the more radical and extreme an individual's political beliefs get, the more they come to resemble the beliefs of individuals on the "opposite" end of the political spectrum.
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For example, far-right fascist or theocratic governments, to advance the national agenda and engender absolute loyalty to God/the state, will interfere with individual rights such as freedom of speech, interfere with individual-institutional rights such as freedom of the press and media, seize property rights for service to God/the state, enact censorship laws, and even try to control the Individual's very own personal life via ThoughtCrime, punishing aberrant behavior such as homosexuality and the like. Meanwhile, in Marxist-Leninism, an ideal communist society would be a classless, stateless one, but the direct transition of a capitalist society into a communist one is held to be impossible, which is where "the Dictatorship of the Proletariat" comes in: the workers seize control of all private property. The Revolutionary Transitional government will engender absolute loyalty to the state among their citizens, interfere with individual rights, maintain rigid, censorious control of the press and media under the grounds that the state will eventually wither away once the reactionary enemy is defeated, eventually enact ThoughtCrime policies ostensibly to ensure that no reactionaries ever emerge, which means taking control of a person's individual life (up to and including their sexuality ''etc.'').

Although the ideologies of the two governments in the example above are ''ostensibly'' on opposite ends of the political spectrum (such that both states would consider one another mortal enemies), in terms of practical ''de facto'' policies, they end up becoming rather similar.

This theory was first observed in comparing far-right and far-left governments, but is also visible when comparing political groups or organisations on each end of the spectrum. Consider how some far-left radical feminists[[note]]In feminist circles, some refer to such people as "trans-excluding radical feminists" ([=TERFs=]) and "sex worker–excluding radical feminists" ([=SWERFs=]).[[/note]] tend to have remarkably similar attitudes towards prostitution, pornography and UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} people as do conservative fundamentalists; or how far-right white supremacist groups and far-left black supremacist groups have in some cases been known to collaborate with one another in order to achieve common goals (segregation, for example).

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In the case of the horseshoe effect, however, this is not so. Rather than a linear spectrum from left to right, political ideologies all sit on a curved, horseshoe-shaped arc, in which the two extremes of the spectrum are closer to each other than they are to the centre of the spectrum, and they have less "space" between them than less-extreme points do (if this sounds like a MindScrew, [[MindScrewdriver look at the page image again]]). This means that the more radical and extreme an individual's political beliefs get, the more they come to resemble the beliefs of individuals on the "opposite" end of the political spectrum.

For example, far-right fascist or theocratic governments, to advance the national agenda and engender absolute loyalty to God/the state, will interfere with individual rights such as freedom of speech, interfere with individual-institutional rights such as freedom of the press and media, seize property rights for service to God/the state, enact censorship laws, and even try to control the Individual's very own personal life via ThoughtCrime, punishing aberrant behavior such as homosexuality and the like. Meanwhile, in Marxist-Leninism, an ideal communist society would be a classless, stateless one, but the direct transition of a capitalist society into a communist one is held to be impossible, which is where "the Dictatorship of the Proletariat" comes in: the workers seize control of all private property. The Revolutionary Transitional government will engender absolute loyalty to the state among their citizens, interfere with individual rights, maintain rigid, censorious control of the press and media under the grounds that the state will eventually wither away once the reactionary enemy is defeated, eventually enact ThoughtCrime policies ostensibly to ensure that no reactionaries ever emerge, which means taking control of a person's individual life (up to and including their sexuality ''etc.'').

Although the ideologies of the two governments in the example above are ''ostensibly'' on opposite ends of the political spectrum (such that both states would consider one another mortal enemies), in terms of practical ''de facto'' policies, they end up becoming rather similar.

This theory was first observed in comparing far-right and far-left governments, but is also visible when comparing political groups or organisations on each end of the spectrum. Consider how some far-left radical feminists[[note]]In feminist circles, some refer to such people as "trans-excluding radical feminists" ([=TERFs=]) and "sex worker–excluding radical feminists" ([=SWERFs=]).[[/note]] tend to have remarkably similar attitudes towards prostitution, pornography and UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} people as do conservative fundamentalists; or how far-right white supremacist groups and far-left black supremacist groups have in some cases been known to collaborate with one another in order to achieve common goals (segregation, for example).

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In the case of the horseshoe The Horseshoe effect, however, argues that this is not so. Rather than a linear spectrum from left to right, political ideologies all sit on a curved, horseshoe-shaped arc, in which the two extremes of the spectrum are closer to each other than they are to the centre of the spectrum, and they have less "space" between them than less-extreme points do (if this sounds like a MindScrew, [[MindScrewdriver look at the page image again]]). This means that the more radical and extreme an individual's political beliefs get, the more they come to resemble the beliefs of individuals on the "opposite" end of the political spectrum.

For example, far-right fascist or theocratic governments, to advance the national agenda and engender absolute loyalty to God/the state, will interfere with individual rights such as freedom of speech, interfere with individual-institutional rights such as freedom of the press and media, seize property rights for service to God/the state, enact censorship laws, and even try to control the Individual's very own personal life via ThoughtCrime, punishing aberrant behavior such as homosexuality and the like. Meanwhile, in Marxist-Leninism, an ideal communist society would be a classless, stateless one, but the direct transition of a capitalist society into a communist one is held to be impossible, which is where "the Dictatorship of the Proletariat" comes in: the workers seize control of all private property. The Revolutionary Transitional government will engender absolute loyalty to the state among their citizens, interfere with individual rights, maintain rigid, censorious control of the press and media under the grounds that the state will eventually wither away once the reactionary enemy is defeated, eventually enact ThoughtCrime policies ostensibly to ensure that no reactionaries ever emerge, which means taking control of a person's individual life (up to and including their sexuality ''etc.'').

Although the ideologies of the two governments in the example above are ''ostensibly'' on opposite ends of the political spectrum (such that both states would consider one another mortal enemies), in terms of practical ''de facto'' policies, they end up becoming rather similar.

This theory was first observed in comparing far-right and far-left governments, but is also visible when comparing political groups or organisations on each end of the spectrum. Consider how some far-left radical feminists[[note]]In feminist circles, some refer to such people as "trans-excluding radical feminists" ([=TERFs=]) and "sex worker–excluding radical feminists" ([=SWERFs=]).[[/note]] tend to have remarkably similar attitudes towards prostitution, pornography and UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} people as do conservative fundamentalists; or how far-right white supremacist groups and far-left black supremacist groups have in some cases been known to collaborate with one another in order to achieve common goals (segregation, for example).
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* ''VideoGame/SomaSpirits'': Form and Dissonance are zealots for the emotions of Joy and Sorrow respectively, believing that only their preferred emotions are good while the opposite emotions are evil. [[spoiler:After the world is split into Joy and Sorrow halves, they each want to destroy the half of the world that they disagree with and have the exact same plan of turning their proteges into living weapons who are just as obsessed with their respective emotions as their mentors. In the true ending, both are so dogmatic about their ideals that they decide to team up to destroy Soma when their proteges render their plans impossible.]]
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* This is a CentralTheme of ''Series/AmericanHorrorStoryCult''. Notably StrawMisogynist conservative cult leader Kai Anderson had an EvilMentor who was a StrawFeminist belonging to a similar cult in the 60's, in the end it's implied {{Protagonist|JourneyToVillain}} Ally Mayfair-Richards will be bringing this cult back. It's worth noting that Kia's StartOfDarkness began when he killed a fundamentalist priest who spouted the same values Kia would eventually hold.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev373c7wSRg This video]] by Ryan Long highlighting the similarities between racial segregation and PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev373c7wSRg This video]] by Ryan Long highlighting the similarities between racial segregation and PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad.
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!!Note: This page lists examples of works in which two ideologically opposed groups are ''presented'' as having beliefs in common. This page does not pass judgement on whether that presentation is fair, charitable or justified. If you think that a particular presentation is unfair or uncharitable, this page is [[JustifyingEdit not the place to argue the point]].

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!!Note: This page lists examples of works in which two ideologically opposed groups are ''presented'' as having beliefs in common. This page does not pass judgement on whether that presentation is fair, charitable or justified. If you think that a particular presentation is unfair or uncharitable, this page is [[JustifyingEdit [[Administrivia/JustifyingEdit not the place to argue the point]].
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!!'''Note:''' This trope is about ''ideological'' similarities between ostensibly opposed people or groups of people.

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!!'''Note:''' !!Note: This trope is about ''ideological'' similarities between ostensibly page lists examples of works in which two ideologically opposed people or groups of people.
are ''presented'' as having beliefs in common. This page does not pass judgement on whether that presentation is fair, charitable or justified. If you think that a particular presentation is unfair or uncharitable, this page is [[JustifyingEdit not the place to argue the point]].
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Justifying Edit, Conversation in the Main Page. This page is not the place to discuss whether or not examples of the horseshoe effect in media are fair, charitable or reasonable. This page simply catalogues examples of the horseshoe effect, without passing judgement on whether or not they are justified (if we did pass judgement in this fashion, this trope would be YMMV).


** Thought Slime argues in his [[https://youtu.be/m0ZDHgD9084 video on the topic]] that the sketch is a cynical attempt to invoke the trope rather than an honest attempt to parody it. The "woke" arguments like the one above are ludicrous StrawmanPolitical positions that would get you laughed out of the room by actual leftists and are painfully contrived to match the old-school racist talking points. He argues that the point of the bit is to invoke the GoldenMeanFallacy by positioning the creator's own highly conservative position as being in the center of the horseshoe.
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** Thought Slime argues in his [[https://youtu.be/m0ZDHgD9084 video on the topic]] that the sketch is a cynical attempt to invoke the trope rather than an honest attempt to parody it. The "woke" arguments like the one above are ludicrous StrawmanPolitical positions that would get you laughed out of the room by actual leftists and are painfully contrived to match the old-school racist talking points. He argues that the point of the bit is to invoke the GoldenMeanFallacy by positioning the creator's own highly conservative position as being in the center of the horseshoe.
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Although this quote is relevant to the trope, it's effectively a Zero Context Example unless you know the full story, so it's not a good fit for a page quote.


-> ''“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”''
-->-- ''Literature/AnimalFarm'' (final words)
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-> ''“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”''
-->-- ''Literature/AnimalFarm'' (final words)

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