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* An iconic example in Western television--the genre ''and'' the hemisphere--comes from ''TheTwilightZone.'' In the episode "Mr. Denton on Doomsday," the washed-up drunkard [[RetiredGunfighter Mr. Denton]] is challenged by a young gunslinger eager to make a name for himself. Thanks to a peddler of [[SnakeOilSalesman remedies and cures of all sorts]], the showdown [[TwilightZoneTwist doesn't play out quite as expected]].
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* Played with on ''Series/{{Justified}}''. US Marshal Raylan Givens wears a cowboy hat and has a well deserved reputation as a gunslinger. A small time thug becomes fascinated with Raylan and starts imagining himself facing off against the marshal in duel. He practices his QuickDraw and even ropes in his partner into doing mock duels with him. The partner gets tired of this and decides that he would rather not split the money from their kidnapping scheme. As the wannabe is getting ready to face Raylan, [[spoiler: the partner shoots him dead. The partner than gets involved in a gunfight with Raylan who kills him]].
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Actually, there are three common outcomes to the Gunfighter Wannabe plotline, with a couple of rarer variants.

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Actually, there are three common outcomes to the The Gunfighter Wannabe plotline, Wannabe's storyline usually ends in one of three ways, with a couple of rarer variants.
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* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'', the player runs across a young hotshot wanting to sign up with the mercenaries assaulting Archangel. The player can choose to intervene and demonstrate that the kid is way out of his league, in which case you later receive an e-mail from him thanking you for saving his life. If the player ignores him, he winds up dead.
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Different trope entirely. The kid really was a gunfighter... he just wasn\'t as quick as Herod.


* ''TheQuickAndTheDead''
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* ''{{Unforgiven}}'' has a hanger-on called the Schofield Kid. In a dark version of variant 1 he realizes he doesn't really have it in him to be a killer only after he murders an unarmed man on the toilet.

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* ''{{Unforgiven}}'' ''Film/{{Unforgiven}}'' has a hanger-on called the Schofield Kid. In a dark version of variant 1 he realizes he doesn't really have it in him to be a killer only after he murders an unarmed man on the toilet.



* You fight a number 1 in ''RedDeadRedemption'' as part of a sidequest. It serves as a TakeThat against 50s-style movie cowboys.

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* You fight a number 1 in ''RedDeadRedemption'' ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'' as part of a sidequest. It serves as a TakeThat against 50s-style movie cowboys.



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* Parodied in one FarSide cartoon, where the defeated reads out outcome #3 nearly word-for-word. Except that this was a ''PingPong match.''
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* Marston in ''QuigleyDownUnder'' is a Big Fish in a Small Pond. He ''thinks'' he's a fast gun, on his cattle station in the Australian Outback, but at the time the movie starts he has never met an actual gunslinger.

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* Marston in ''QuigleyDownUnder'' ''Film/QuigleyDownUnder'' is a Big Fish in a Small Pond. He ''thinks'' he's a fast gun, on his cattle station in the Australian Outback, but at the time the movie starts he has never met an actual gunslinger.
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* ''Don't Take Your Guns To Town'' by Johnny Cash.
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Other variations include the Wannabe being a hanger-on in an Outlaw band, only to learn that this isn't what he wants -- usually when his supposed TrueCompanions abandons him (with a broken leg or something), and then the hero rescues him.

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Other variations include the Wannabe being a hanger-on in an Outlaw band, only to learn that this isn't what he wants -- usually when his supposed TrueCompanions abandons abandon him (with a broken leg or something), and then the hero rescues him.
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Other variations include the Wannabe being a hanger-on in an Outlaw band, only to learn that this isn't what he wants -- usually when his supposed {{Nakama}} abandons him (with a broken leg or something), and then the hero rescues him.

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Other variations include the Wannabe being a hanger-on in an Outlaw band, only to learn that this isn't what he wants -- usually when his supposed {{Nakama}} TrueCompanions abandons him (with a broken leg or something), and then the hero rescues him.

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This character has the IJustWantToBeSpecial attitude, but the kind of "special" he wants to be is a gunfighter. What distinguishes the Wannabe from the YoungGun is that the latter usually just needs some training/experience/maturity to get up to speed, whereas the Wannabe lacks the talent or temperament to succeed as TheGunslinger.

He may have plinked cans in the backyard, and practiced his fancy draw in the mirror, but the Wannabe doesn't have the speed and accuracy he thinks he does. And he's going to challenge a real gunfighter just as soon as he gets up the nerve. This will not end well.

Actually, there are three common outcomes to the Gunfighter Wannabe plotline, with a couple of rarer variants.

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This character has the IJustWantToBeSpecial attitude, but the kind of "special" he wants to be is a gunfighter. What distinguishes the Wannabe from the YoungGun is that the latter usually just needs some training/experience/maturity to get up to speed, whereas the Wannabe lacks the talent or temperament to succeed as TheGunslinger.

TheGunslinger.

He may have plinked cans in the backyard, and practiced his fancy draw in the mirror, but the Wannabe doesn't have the speed and accuracy he thinks he does. And he's going to challenge a real gunfighter just as soon as he gets up the nerve. This will not end well.

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Actually, there are three common outcomes to the Gunfighter Wannabe plotline, with a couple of rarer variants.
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In a rarer scenario, TheGunfighterWannabe challenges someone who he thinks is TheGunslinger but isn't. So the Wannabe ends up killing some {{Cowboy}} or CitySlicker, and is promptly branded an {{Outlaw}} -- but discovers he lacks the cojones for banditry -- usually ends with the other bandits killing or abandoning him. Occasionally this results in a HeelFaceTurn, but since RedemptionEqualsDeath, it usually doesn't end well.

Other variations include the Wannabe being a hanger-on in an Outlaw band, only to learn that this isn't what he wants -- usually when his supposed {{Nakama}} abandons him (with a broken leg or something), and then the hero rescues him.

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In a rarer scenario, TheGunfighterWannabe challenges someone who he thinks is TheGunslinger but isn't. So the Wannabe ends up killing some {{Cowboy}} or CitySlicker, and is promptly branded an {{Outlaw}} -- but discovers he lacks the cojones for banditry -- usually ends with the other bandits killing or abandoning him. Occasionally this results in a HeelFaceTurn, but since RedemptionEqualsDeath, it usually doesn't end well.

well.

Other variations include the Wannabe being a hanger-on in an Outlaw band, only to learn that this isn't what he wants -- usually when his supposed {{Nakama}} abandons him (with a broken leg or something), and then the hero rescues him.
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* ''{{The Quick and the Dead}}''
* Jim AKA The Waco Kid, (a RetiredBadass from ''BlazingSaddles'') recalls encountering a lot of these types back when he was the FastestGunInTheWest and how "it got so that every piss-ass prairie punk who thought he could shoot a gun would ride into town to try out The Waco Kid", including the one that sent him into his HeroicBSOD: a six year old kid with a revolver. ([[CrossesTheLineTwice Who promptly shot Jim in the ass]] [[SatireParodyPastiche when he threw down his guns and walked away]]).

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* Jim AKA The Waco Kid, (a RetiredBadass from ''BlazingSaddles'') ''Film/BlazingSaddles'') recalls encountering a lot of these types back when he was the FastestGunInTheWest and how "it got so that every piss-ass prairie punk who thought he could shoot a gun would ride into town to try out The Waco Kid", including the one that sent him into his HeroicBSOD: a six year old kid with a revolver. ([[CrossesTheLineTwice Who promptly shot Jim in the ass]] [[SatireParodyPastiche when he threw down his guns and walked away]]).



* ''Sackett'' by [[LouisLAmour Louis L'Amour]] has one of the hanger-on type of gunfighter wannabe.

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* ''Irving: The 142nd Fastest Gun in the West'' of DoctorDemento fame.

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A common variant of this is the BigFishInASmallPond: sometimes the Wannabe ''is'' the fastest gun around, among the rather small group of people that he knows, and thinks he's really hot stuff, until a ''real'' gunfighter comes along.

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A common variant of this is the BigFishInASmallPond: NormalFishInATinyPond: sometimes the Wannabe ''is'' the fastest gun around, among the rather small group of people that he knows, and thinks he's really hot stuff, until a ''real'' gunfighter comes along.
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* Deconstructed rather unpleasantly in the short story "The Conqueror" by RichardMatheson.

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* Deconstructed rather unpleasantly in the The short story "The Conqueror" by RichardMatheson.
RichardMatheson plays with this. [[spoiler: It starts as Type 3, only the kid is just plain ambushed by the friends of the men he killed and shot to pieces. And then we find out that he may just have been a PsychopathicManchild who was planning to kill his way across the plains as the baddest gunfighter ever.]]
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* Deconstructed rather unpleasantly in the short story "The Conqueror" by RichardMatheson.

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* ''Irving: The 142nd Fastest Gun in the West'' of DoctorDemento fame.
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* Ocelot in ''MetalGearSolid3'' is a rare example of a Wannabe who grows up into a formidable fighter.
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* The Ultimate Nullifier in ''Vengeance'', a rookie hero dressed in an all-white version of Captain America's costume (sans mask because he's just too damn pretty) and wielding two PowerNullifier pistols that he spins frequently. In his mind, he ''is'' the modern heroic ideal.

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!!Examples
* Ron Howard's character in ''The Shootist'' is type 1.
* Dealing with Wannabes is a major theme of ''The Gunfighter''. [[spoiler:It starts with scenario 2, then has scenario 1, and finishes with number 3.]]
* ''Sackett'' by [[LouisLAmour Louis L'Amour]] has one of the hanger-on type of gunfighter wannabe.
* ''{{Unforgiven}}'' has a hanger-on called the Schofield Kid. In a dark version of variant 1 he realizes he doesn't really have it in him to be a killer only after he murders an unarmed man on the toilet.
** The original script says he drowned himself out of guilt.
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* Ron Howard's character in ''The Shootist'' is type 1.
* Dealing with Wannabes is a major theme of ''The Gunfighter''. [[spoiler:It starts with scenario 2, then has scenario 1,
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and finishes with number 3.]]
* ''Sackett'' by [[LouisLAmour Louis L'Amour]] has one of the hanger-on type of gunfighter wannabe.
* ''{{Unforgiven}}'' has a hanger-on called the Schofield Kid. In a dark version of variant 1 he realizes he doesn't really have it in him to be a killer only after he murders an unarmed man on the toilet.
** The original script says he drowned himself out of guilt.
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* Ron Howard's character in ''TheShootist'' is type 1.
* Dealing with Wannabes is a major theme of ''TheGunfighter''. [[spoiler:It starts with scenario 2, then has scenario 1, and finishes with number 3.]]
* ''{{Unforgiven}}'' has a hanger-on called the Schofield Kid. In a dark version of variant 1 he realizes he doesn't really have it in him to be a killer only after he murders an unarmed man on the toilet.
** The original script says he drowned himself out of guilt.
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* ''Sackett'' by [[LouisLAmour Louis L'Amour]] has one of the hanger-on type of gunfighter wannabe.

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* Jim AKA The Waco Kid, (a RetiredBadass from ''BlazingSaddles'') recalls encountering a lot of these types back when he was the FastestGunInTheWest and how "it got so that every piss-ass prairie punk who thought he could shoot a gun would ride into town to try out The Waco Kid", including the one that sent him into his HeroicBSOD: a six year old kid with a revolver. ([[CrossesTheLineTwice Who promptly shot Jim in the ass]] [[SatireParodyPastiche when he threw done his guns and walked away]]).

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* Jim AKA The Waco Kid, (a RetiredBadass from ''BlazingSaddles'') recalls encountering a lot of these types back when he was the FastestGunInTheWest and how "it got so that every piss-ass prairie punk who thought he could shoot a gun would ride into town to try out The Waco Kid", including the one that sent him into his HeroicBSOD: a six year old kid with a revolver. ([[CrossesTheLineTwice Who promptly shot Jim in the ass]] [[SatireParodyPastiche when he threw done down his guns and walked away]]).
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* Marston in ''QuigleyDownUnder'' is a type 4. He ''thinks'' he's a fast gun, on his cattle station in the Australian Outback, but at the time the movie starts he has never met an actual gunslinger.

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* Marston in ''QuigleyDownUnder'' is a type 4.Big Fish in a Small Pond. He ''thinks'' he's a fast gun, on his cattle station in the Australian Outback, but at the time the movie starts he has never met an actual gunslinger.
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# The BigFishInASmallPond variant: The Wannabe ''is'' the fastest gun around, among the rather small group of people that he knows, and thinks he's really hot stuff, until a ''real'' gunfighter comes along.

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Wannabe ''is'' the fastest gun around, among the rather small group of people that he knows, and thinks he's really hot stuff, until a ''real'' gunfighter comes along.

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