Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Main / SweetAndSourGrapes

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In the ''MyLittlePony: Frienship is Magic'' episode "The Ticket Master," Twilight Sparkle gets two tickets to The Grand Galloping Gala, and naturally all her friends want to go. Unable to decide, she sends the tickets back to Princess Celestia, telling her that if her friends can't all go, she doesn't want to go either. The princess responds by sending enough tickets for her and her friends.

to:

* In the ''MyLittlePony: Frienship Friendship is Magic'' episode "The Ticket Master," Twilight Sparkle gets two tickets to The Grand Galloping Gala, and naturally all her friends want to go. Unable to decide, she sends the tickets back to Princess Celestia, telling her that if her friends can't all go, she doesn't want to go either. The princess responds by sending enough tickets for her and her friends.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
...that doesn\'t make a lot of sense.


** Ditto for conceiving a child, which may explain the InverseLawOfFertility.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* JaneEyre leaves Mr. Rochester when she learns of his [[spoiler: insane wife he keeps in the attic]] because being with him would violate her morals and sense of self-worth. Thankfully, [[spoiler: Bertha]] dies in a fire and Rochester is [[spoiler: blinded and rendered armless]] in the same fire so they can [[spoiler: marry]] and live as equals.


to:

* JaneEyre leaves Mr. Rochester when she learns of his [[spoiler: insane wife he keeps in the attic]] because being with him would violate her morals and sense of self-worth. Thankfully, [[spoiler: Bertha]] dies in a fire and Rochester is [[spoiler: blinded and rendered armless]] in the same fire so they can [[spoiler: marry]] marry and live as equals.

equals]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None




to:

\n* JaneEyre leaves Mr. Rochester when she learns of his [[spoiler: insane wife he keeps in the attic]] because being with him would violate her morals and sense of self-worth. Thankfully, [[spoiler: Bertha]] dies in a fire and Rochester is [[spoiler: blinded and rendered armless]] in the same fire so they can [[spoiler: marry]] and live as equals.

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Please to not be potholing the ptitles. They do not enjoy being potholed. =(


* A common occurrence in ToBeAMaster shows. This often plays out with a competitor who believes that [[SecondPlaceIsForLosers winning is more important than anything else]], while our considerably more casual protagonist tries to show him the error of his mentality. Usually by beating him in competition, thus resulting in the protagonist becoming the grand champion after all. It says something about the broken nature of this genre when protagonists who ''don't'' go on to win the overall competition (for example, [[{{ptitle70n0mn3c}} Ash Ketchum]]) are written off by fans as {{Failure Hero}}es.

to:

* A common occurrence in ToBeAMaster shows. This often plays out with a competitor who believes that [[SecondPlaceIsForLosers winning is more important than anything else]], while our considerably more casual protagonist tries to show him the error of his mentality. Usually by beating him in competition, thus resulting in the protagonist becoming the grand champion after all. It says something about the broken nature of this genre when protagonists who ''don't'' go on to win the overall competition (for example, [[{{ptitle70n0mn3c}} [[{{Pokemon}} Ash Ketchum]]) are written off by fans as {{Failure Hero}}es.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* There is a mini inversion in ''KungFuPanda'': Master Shifu administers a kung fu test during a meal, where he challenges the glutton Po to steal the last steamed bun from him. When Po finally manages to get the bun, he shrugs and tosses it aside. "I'm not hungry."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In AvatarTheLastAirbender, Aang interprets Guru Pathik statement that he must "let go" of his attachment to Katara in order to intentionally enter his powerful Avatar State as meaning he must abandon his feelings for her if he wants access to all that power. Aang chooses [[ThePowerofLove love]], a move later applauded by [[TheObiWan Iroh]]. Inverting the trope initially, once he is forced to try, he is immediately defeated anyways. But it's played straight by the end of the series when Aang has both mastered the Avatar State (well enough to stop himself from landing a killing blow even in self defense) and had his [[EarnYourHappyEnding happy ending]] with Katara.

to:

* In AvatarTheLastAirbender, ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'', Aang interprets Guru Pathik statement that he must "let go" of his attachment to Katara in order to intentionally enter his powerful Avatar State as meaning he must abandon his feelings for her if he wants access to all that power. Aang chooses [[ThePowerofLove love]], a move later applauded by [[TheObiWan Iroh]]. Inverting the trope initially, once he is forced to try, he is immediately defeated anyways. But it's played straight by the end of the series when Aang has both mastered the Avatar State (well enough to stop himself from landing a killing blow even in self defense) and had his [[EarnYourHappyEnding happy ending]] with Katara.



* In ThePrincessAndTheFrog, Dr. Facilier offers Tiana the restaurant she's always dreamed off, in exchange for his voodoo talisman. She almost gives in, but realizes that [[ThePowerOfLove those she loves]] are even more important than her dreams, so she smashes the talisman. After Charlotte's kiss fails, she and Naveen decide to marry anyway. However, since she has just married a prince, Tiana becomes a princess, and their kiss breaks the spell. Then, with a little "aggressive persuasion" from Louis, Tiana is able to buy her restaurant, and she and Naveen deck out the place in splendid fasion.

to:

* In ThePrincessAndTheFrog, ''ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', Dr. Facilier offers Tiana the restaurant she's always dreamed off, in exchange for his voodoo talisman. She almost gives in, but realizes that [[ThePowerOfLove those she loves]] are even more important than her dreams, so she smashes the talisman. After Charlotte's kiss fails, she and Naveen decide to marry anyway. However, since she has just married a prince, Tiana becomes a princess, and their kiss breaks the spell. Then, with a little "aggressive persuasion" from Louis, Tiana is able to buy her restaurant, and she and Naveen deck out the place in splendid fasion.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* LeftBehind: Two of the main protagonists are offered jobs by the [[BigBad Antichrist]], jobs that, were they offered by anyone else would seem like dream jobs. The characters are reluctant to take those jobs, rightly seeing them as tests of temptation before them. After some initial reluctance, they take the jobs anyway, as they feel that taking them was "God's will."


to:

* LeftBehind: Two In ''LeftBehind'', two of the main protagonists are offered jobs by the [[BigBad Antichrist]], jobs that, were they offered by anyone else would seem like dream jobs. The characters are reluctant to take those jobs, rightly seeing them as tests of temptation before them. After some initial reluctance, they take the jobs anyway, as they feel that taking them was "God's will."

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* LeftBehind: Two of the main protagonists are offered jobs by the [[BigBad Antichrist]], jobs that, were they offered by anyone else would seem like dream jobs. The characters are reluctant to take those jobs, rightly seeing them as tests of temptation before them. After some initial reluctance, they take the jobs anyway, as they feel that taking them was "God's will."

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[AC:{{Anime}}]]
* A common occurrence in ToBeAMaster shows. This often plays out with a competitor who believes that [[SecondPlaceIsForLosers winning is more important than anything else]], while our considerably more casual protagonist tries to show him the error of his mentality. Usually by beating him in competition, thus resulting in the protagonist becoming the grand champion after all. It says something about the broken nature of this genre when protagonists who ''don't'' go on to win the overall competition (for example, [[{{ptitle70n0mn3c}} Ash Ketchum]]) are written off by fans as {{Failure Hero}}es.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Ditto for conceiving a child, which may explain the InverseLawOfFertility.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* In the back story of ''KingOfTheHill,'' Hank and Peggy [[InverseLawOfFertility weren't able to have a child]] due to Hank's [[RunningGag narrow urethra]] and unwillingness to use in vitro fertilization. In the end, they settle for getting a puppy, Hank's beloved Ladybird...and soon after conceive Bobby. Hank later comments that he thinks the happiness they got from Ladybird helped "loosen him up" enough to finally succeed even though they weren't even trying anymore.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Actually it's more like God is just testing him in general. By choosing 'Wisdom' he shows that he already possesses that quality, because with wisdom all the other offered things can be obtained, however none of the other things can impart wisdom itself. Wisdom was the only correct answer to the test.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Midnight Run qualifies. When [[spoiler: bounty-hunter Robert DeNiro decides to forgo the reward for transporting Charles Grodin cross-country, and lets him go, Grodin takes off a money belt with over $200,000 and hands it to DeNiro.]]

to:

* Midnight Run ''MidnightRun'' qualifies. When [[spoiler: bounty-hunter Robert DeNiro decides to forgo the reward for transporting Charles Grodin cross-country, and lets him go, Grodin takes off a money belt with over $200,000 and hands it to DeNiro.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* ''LostOdyssey'' plays WhoWantsToLiveForever very hard for its immortal characters, but by the end of the game, they've mostly decided to embrace their eternal lives rather than angst about it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Picard himself theorizes he was never in any danger and Q was just taking advantage of the situation to teach Picard a lesson. Another possibility is that Q, satisfied with the lesson Picard learned, and not wanting to lose one of his most interesting toys, fixed Picard's heart himself.
*** Actually, the ending suggests that the whole thing was AllJustADream.

to:

** Picard himself theorizes he was never in any danger and Q the whole thing was just taking advantage of the situation an hallucination created by Q to teach Picard a lesson. Another possibility is that Q, satisfied with the lesson Picard learned, and not wanting to lose one of his most interesting toys, fixed Picard's heart himself.
*** Actually, the ending suggests that the whole thing was AllJustADream.
heart.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* In the ''MyLittlePony: Frienship is Magic'' episode "The Ticket Master," Twilight Sparkle gets two tickets to The Grand Galloping Gala, and naturally all her friends want to go. Unable to decide, she sends the tickets back to Princess Celestia, telling her that if her friends can't all go, she doesn't want to go either. The princess responds by sending enough tickets for her and her friends.

Added: 302

Changed: 417

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In AvatarTheLastAirbender, Aang is told by Guru Pathik that he must either give up his love for Katara or give up his ability to enter his powerful Avatar State. Aang chooses [[ThePowerofLove love]], a move later applauded by [[TheObiWan Iroh]]. Apparently karma agreed, because it turns out Pathik was wrong; by the end of the series Aang has both completely mastered the Avatar State and had his [[EarnYourHappyEnding happy ending]] with Katara.

to:

* In AvatarTheLastAirbender, Aang is told by interprets Guru Pathik statement that he must either give up "let go" of his love for attachment to Katara or give up his ability in order to intentionally enter his powerful Avatar State.State as meaning he must abandon his feelings for her if he wants access to all that power. Aang chooses [[ThePowerofLove love]], a move later applauded by [[TheObiWan Iroh]]. Apparently karma agreed, because it turns out Pathik was wrong; Inverting the trope initially, once he is forced to try, he is immediately defeated anyways. But it's played straight by the end of the series when Aang has both completely mastered the Avatar State (well enough to stop himself from landing a killing blow even in self defense) and had his [[EarnYourHappyEnding happy ending]] with Katara.Katara.
** Arguably, this trope doesn't even apply if one considers that Aang was just acting like an idiot, confusing "letting go" with "giving up" and if he had completed his training (instead of turning away at the last second) he may have been able to save Katara and the Earth Kingdom immediately anyways.

Changed: 945

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* In the ''ForgottenRealms'' novel ''Faces of Deception'' by Troy Denning, the protagonist, Atreus, has been staggeringly ugly since childhood as a result of a spell GoneHorriblyWrong. All he wants is to become handsome so that he can have a normal life. Others point out to him that he should first learn to appreciate inner beauty, but since people tend to run screaming at the sight of him he's a fairly cynical about that idea. Finally he finds a "perfect" land where people don't see even him as ugly and where he finally finds love - but he can't stay there permanently. [[spoiler: The very fact that it would be such an obvious thing for this trope to happen by the end makes it a subversion when it doesn't. Atreus throws everything away and tries to steal a source of the sacred valley's power to heal his appearance, and the [[ShaggyDogStory story ends]] with his neither having stopped wanting better looks nor having achieved them.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Consciously [[AvertedTrope averted]] in ''Jennifer Murdley's Toad'', a children's lit novel by {{Bruce Coville}} about a insecure and ugly little girl who adopts a talking frog sought out by a shallow, beauty-obsessed temptress. In early versions of the story, Jennifer became beautiful, but Coville realized that such a transformation broke the Aesop and instead went with an ending in which Jennifer just accepts herself for who she is.

to:

* Consciously [[AvertedTrope averted]] in ''Jennifer ''[[MagicShop Jennifer Murdley's Toad'', Toad]]'', a children's lit novel by {{Bruce Coville}} about a insecure and ugly little girl who adopts a talking frog sought out by a shallow, beauty-obsessed temptress. In early versions of the story, Jennifer became beautiful, but Coville realized that such a transformation broke the Aesop and instead went with an ending in which Jennifer just accepts herself for who she is.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Consciously [[AvertedTrope averted]] in ''Jennifer Murdley's Toad'', a children's lit novel by Bruce Coville about a insecure and ugly little girl who adopts a talking frog sought out by a shallow, beauty-obsessed temptress. In early versions of the story, Jennifer became beautiful, but Coville realized that such a transformation broke the Aesop and instead went with an ending in which Jennifer just accepts herself for who she is.

to:

* Consciously [[AvertedTrope averted]] in ''Jennifer Murdley's Toad'', a children's lit novel by Bruce Coville {{Bruce Coville}} about a insecure and ugly little girl who adopts a talking frog sought out by a shallow, beauty-obsessed temptress. In early versions of the story, Jennifer became beautiful, but Coville realized that such a transformation broke the Aesop and instead went with an ending in which Jennifer just accepts herself for who she is.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None







** Although it's played with in that [[spoiler: DeNiro, having refused to accept bribes and stubbornly held to his code of honour throughout the movie, initially refuses to accept it; Grodin has to persuade him that it's not a bribe, but a 'thank you' gift: "You already let me go."]] As such, whilst it still qualifies, it's arguably a less glaring example [[spoiler: since it comes across more as a genuine reward for DeNiro's honourable actions throughout the movie rather than LaserGuidedKarma making sure he has his cake and eats it too.]]

to:

** Although it's played with in that [[spoiler: DeNiro, DeNiro's character, having refused to accept bribes (including those offered by Grodin's character previously) and stubbornly held to his code of honour throughout the movie, initially refuses to accept it; Grodin Grodin's character has to persuade him that it's not a bribe, but a 'thank you' gift: "You already let me go."]] As such, whilst it still qualifies, it's arguably a less glaring example [[spoiler: since it comes across more as a genuine reward for DeNiro's honourable actions throughout the movie rather than LaserGuidedKarma making sure he has his cake and eats it too.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Changed: 240

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Towards the end of ''LittleWomen'', newlyweds Laurie and Amy discuss the implications of her marrying the wealthy Laurie [[MarryForLove for love]] after previously coming to her senses and resolving not to marry Fred Vaughn for his money.

Changed: 107

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Most cases of MagnumOpusDissonance -- given up trying to write that bestseller? Cue writing a bestseller!
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* In ''{{Around The World In Eighty Days}}'', it appears that Phileas Fogg has lost his bet to do what the title says and his fortune with it, but is compensated by his having learned to appreciate life rather than continue the sterile, emotionless existence he was leading before. Then it turns out he'd forgotten about gaining an extra day by crossing the International Date Line, and still has time to win the bet.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
  • Closely related to the Beauty and the Beast: the Loathly Lady.

Added DiffLines:

* Closely related to the Beauty and the Beast: the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loathly_lady Loathly Lady]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


-> '''Cuddy''': Oh, yeah, I looked up your philosopher, Jagger; you're right, you don't always get what you want, but I found that, if you try sometimes, you get what you need.

to:

-> '''Cuddy''': Oh, yeah, I looked up your philosopher, Jagger; you're right, you don't always get what you want, but I found that, [[WaxingLyrical if you try sometimes, you get what you need.
need]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** ''HowToMarryAMillionaire'' actually did it first, although the main character Schatze's choice isn't between a rich ''jerk'' and a humble ''sweetheart'' (they're both very sweet fellows) but between a millionaire decades older than Schatze, for whom she can only bring herself to feel platonic affection, and an (secretly far ''richer'') everyman who is the same age as her and has completely swept her off her feet. She, too, chooses the latter.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
More on Disney's Belle.


** In the Disney version, the writers recognized that the prince becoming handsome at the end kind of broke the Aesop, and at one point considered giving Belle a throwaway line at the end suggesting the prince grow a beard.

to:

** In the Disney version, the writers recognized that the prince becoming handsome at the end kind of broke the Aesop, and at one point considered giving Belle a throwaway line at the end suggesting the prince grow a beard. As it was, she was suspicious of the transformed Beast until she recognised him by his eyes.

Top