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* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondTheReturnOfTheJoker'', Terry proves his worth as the new Batman when he does something the original Batman was never able to do: make the Joker the butt of a joke.
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* ''VideoGame/LuminousPlume'': Raven and the final BonusBoss discuss and deconstruct this trope. [[spoiler:Victor feared that Raven's growth would surpass his own, so he sealed away Raven's memory to make the latter forget his more advanced training, which is something he admits is petty. Similarly, Raven fears that Valerie might one day [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil use aura powers for evil]] and become too strong for him to stop.]]
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However, there often comes a time when the student surpasses the mentor in ability. It is at this point at which the student reaches his full ability and becomes a master of his trade. This may result in the mentor becoming an ObsoleteMentor. If the student is arrogant, when he proves he is superior, he often utters a StockPhrase or some variation thereof from which the trope name originates: "The student has surpassed the teacher."

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However, there often comes may come a time when the student surpasses the mentor in ability. It is at this point at which the student reaches his full ability and becomes a master of his trade. This may result in the mentor becoming an ObsoleteMentor. If the student is arrogant, when he proves he is superior, he often utters a StockPhrase or some variation thereof from which the trope name originates: "The student has surpassed the teacher."

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-->'''Dorian:''' Soolin was taught by the best.
-->'''Soolin:''' The second best actually.
-->'''Dorian:''' ''(laughs)'' Oh, of course you killed him didn't you? He was one of the men [[YouKilledMyFather responsible for the death of her family]]. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge She killed all the others too.]] She's a formidable enemy.

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The second best actually.
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''(laughs)'' Oh, of course you killed him didn't you? He was one of the men [[YouKilledMyFather responsible for the death of her family]]. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge She killed all the others too.]] She's a formidable enemy.



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* ''VideoGame/MarchenForestMylneAndTheForestGift'': Catching the master of the forest, a Sylvanshark, can get this haiku from Mr. Pole:
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has beat the master.
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** The first one of Wolf's teachers you may encounter and cut down is [[CoolOldLady Lady Butterfly]] who, along with Wolf's foster father, Owl, trained Wolf in his childhood. Upon being cut down she dedicates her FamousLastWords to complimenting Wolf on how stong he's become.

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** The first one of Wolf's teachers you may encounter and cut down is [[CoolOldLady Lady Butterfly]] who, along with Wolf's foster father, Owl, trained Wolf in his childhood. Upon being cut down she dedicates her FamousLastWords last words to complimenting Wolf on how stong he's become.

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* Invoked directly in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreed'' when Altair finally takes down Al Mualim. Al Mualim says the trope's name nearly word-for-word, and Altair simply replies with the titular creed.
* This a major theme in several of the games of the ''VideoGame/{{Atelier}}'' franchise. Particularly in the latter games of the series, which are trilogies, it is not unusual for the star of the next game to have the previous game's lead character as their alchemy teacher. They will then go on to achieve feats that the teacher never even could have imagined.



* In ''VideoGame/FantasyLife'', the player is mentored by a character with the rank of Master. There are however characters with the higher ranks of Hero or Legend, which the player can eventually reach also. The DownloadableContent adds yet an extra rank.
* ''VideoGame/FarawayStory'' allows Pia to challenge her teacher, Ellevark, to an [[BonusBoss optional]] DuelBoss battle. Winning will result in a non-canon alternate ending where Pia goes on to become the WorldsBestWarrior.



* Achieving a "cool" ranking in any level in the ''VideoGame/ParappaTheRapper'' series amounts to this, as it leads to the level's instructor informing you that they have nothing more to teach you and leaving you to your own devices. If you can sustain this until the level ends, [[AchievementSystem said level is marked with a crown]].

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* Achieving a "cool" ranking in any level in the ''VideoGame/ParappaTheRapper'' series amounts to this, as it leads to the level's instructor informing you that they have nothing more to teach you and leaving you to your own devices. If you can sustain You better hope this until is the case in ''VideoGame/MassiveChalice'' as it's directly linked to the level ends, [[AchievementSystem said progression of the game. Children sired from high level is marked parents gain a few free levels and with further training a couple more; this in turn allows them to level up past their parents and teachers, meaning that eventually their children will start with a crown]]. higher level than their parents, and so on.



* Achieving a "cool" ranking in any level in the ''VideoGame/ParappaTheRapper'' series amounts to this, as it leads to the level's instructor informing you that they have nothing more to teach you and leaving you to your own devices. If you can sustain this until the level ends, [[AchievementSystem said level is marked with a crown]].
* ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilVillage'' revealed that Ozwell E. Spencer, founder of the Umbrella Corporation and series GreaterScopeVillain, [[spoiler:was student to the BigBad of the 8th numbered title of the series, Mother Miranda. She rescued him and taught him much, but he left to follow his own path because he thought that her Mold research did not have the potential to change the world in the way that he wanted, not like viruses could. And in a way, he was right. Many millions died and cities burned around the world because of Spencer's ambitions and, in comparison, Miranda and her Mold are barely a blip on the radar.]]
* ''VideoGame/{{Sekiro}}'': The Wolf has the opportunity to do this to a lot of teachers over the course of the game.
** The first one of Wolf's teachers you may encounter and cut down is [[CoolOldLady Lady Butterfly]] who, along with Wolf's foster father, Owl, trained Wolf in his childhood. Upon being cut down she dedicates her FamousLastWords to complimenting Wolf on how stong he's become.
** Over the course of the game, Wolf gets ''two'' opportunities to do this to the Great Shinobi, Owl: The first time is in the present and even has Wolf finishing the fight with the words "You taught me well" whereupon Owl replies with [[SoProudOfYou "That's... my boy..."]] However, Owl is past his prime in this battle and later on in the game you [[GuideDangIt may]] get the opportunity to travel back to the past a few years via a memory charm and attempt to challenge and surpass Owl at his peak. Upon this second defeat, Owl instead mutters a bemused "Defeated by my own son? The feeling is not entirely unpleasant..."
** The Sculptor also used to be a shinobi and bestows upon Wolf two scrolls containing various skills for you to master: One for shinobi techniques, and a second for techniques using the tools of the prosthetic arm that the Sculptor gifted you at the start of the game, thus making him another, more hands-off kind of teacher for Wolf. Towards the end of the game, the Sculptor is transformed into a demon by his lingering resentment, hatred and karmic debt, forcing Wolf to overcome and defeat him.
** Finally there's [[CoolOldGuy Isshin Ashina]], who bestows Wolf with the Ashina-style skill scroll and also acts as a mentor to Wolf, hoping to steer him clear of the path that resulted in the Sculptor's tragic fate. Regardless of which path you walk in the game, Isshin is the FinalBoss, necessitating you to demonstrate that you've surpassed him one way or another: In the BadEnding, Isshin is still old and sick, but fights with the skill and experience he's gained after a lifetime of battle. In all other endings, he perishes from his illness before you get to fight him but is brought back in his prime whereupon he demonstrates the prowess that earned him his reputation as the WorldsBestWarrior.



* You better hope this is the case in ''VideoGame/MassiveChalice'' as it's directly linked to the level progression of the game. Children sired from high level parents gain a few free levels and with further training a couple more; this in turn allows them to level up past their parents and teachers, meaning that eventually their children will start with a higher level than their parents, and so on.
* In ''VideoGame/FantasyLife'', the player is mentored by a character with the rank of Master. There are however characters with the higher ranks of Hero or Legend, which the player can eventually reach also. The DownloadableContent adds yet an extra rank.



* ''VideoGame/FarawayStory'' allows Pia to challenge her teacher, Ellevark, to an [[BonusBoss optional]] DuelBoss battle. Winning will result in a non-canon alternate ending where Pia goes on to become the WorldsBestWarrior.
* Invoked directly in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreed'' when Altair finally takes down al Mualim. al Mualim says the trope's name nearly word-for-word, and Altair simply replies with the titular creed.
* This a major theme in several of the games of the ''VideoGame/{{Atelier}}'' franchise. Particularly in the latter games of the series, which are trilogies, it is not unusual for the star of the next game to have the previous game's lead character as their alchemy teacher. They will then go on to achieve feats that the teacher never even could have imagined.



* ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilVillage'' revealed that Ozwell E. Spencer, founder of the Umbrella Corporation and series GreaterScopeVillain, [[spoiler:was student to the BigBad of the 8th numbered title of the series, Mother Miranda. She rescued him and taught him much, but he left to follow his own path because he thought that her Mold research did not have the potential to change the world in the way that he wanted, not like viruses could. And in a way, he was right. Many millions died and cities burned around the world because of Spencer's ambitions and, in comparison, Miranda and her Mold are barely a blip on the radar.]]
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* ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilVillage'' revealed that Ozwell E. Spencer, founder of the Umbrella Corporation and series GreaterScopeVillain, [[spoiler:was student to the BigBad of the 8th numbered title of the series, Mother Miranda. She rescued him and taught him much, but he left to follow his own path because he thought that her Mold research did not have the potential to change the world in the way that he wanted, not like viruses could. And in a way, he was right. Many millions died and cities burned around the world because of Spencer's ambitions and, in comparison, Miranda and her Mold are barely a blip on the radar.]]
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** PlayedWith at the beginning of the series. Goku's mentor, Master Roshi, disguises himself to participate without getting known at a tournament. The viewer expects this trope to appear, as Goku manages to evade all of Roshi's tactics to defeat him. However, despite Goku having managed to succeed to all of Roshi's attempts, Goku lost to him after he was goaded into a final jump-kick, receiving the brunt of the injury. There's also the fact, because Goku didn't know he was fighting Roshi, he never knew how strong his master actually is. There were some hints that Roshi was much more skilled than he lets on in the series, though it became clear that Goku surpassed him by the 22nd World Tournament. This is PlayedForDrama in the King Piccolo Saga. After losing to Piccolo, Goku goes to Korin and asked him to train him again so he can become stronger than Piccolo. Korin can only tell him that he already surpassed him and he can teach him nothing. By the end of the original ''Dragon Ball'', Goku surpassed all his teachers, including Kami. At the beginning of ''Z'', he needs to become stronger than King Kai just to have a remote chance against the Saiyans since they were stronger than him.

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** PlayedWith at the beginning of the series. Goku's mentor, Master Roshi, disguises himself to participate without getting known at a tournament. The viewer expects this trope to appear, as Goku manages to evade all of Roshi's tactics to defeat him. However, despite Goku having managed to succeed to all of Roshi's attempts, Goku lost loses to him after he was he's goaded into a final jump-kick, receiving the brunt of the injury. There's also the fact, fact that because Goku didn't know he was fighting Roshi, he never knew how strong his master actually is. There were are some hints that Roshi was is much more skilled than he lets on in the series, though it became becomes clear that Goku has surpassed him by the 22nd World Tournament. This is PlayedForDrama in the King Piccolo Saga. After losing to Piccolo, Goku goes to Korin and asked asks him to train him again so he can become stronger than Piccolo. again. Korin can only tell him Goku that he the latter has already surpassed him and he can teach him Goku nothing. By the end of the original ''Dragon Ball'', Goku has surpassed all his teachers, including Kami. At the beginning of ''Z'', he needs to become stronger than King Kai just to have a remote chance against the Saiyans since they were they're stronger than him.



* ''ComicBook/RobinSeries'': When Tim meets one of the earliest martial arts instructors he'd had while training as Robin a year later and the man assaults him Tim easily trounces him. Not only does this display his improvement, it demonstrates that his old instructor's ideology about fighting and martial arts is wrong which he'd kind of wanted to do since they first met but hadn't tried while studying under him.

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* ''ComicBook/RobinSeries'': When Tim meets one of the earliest martial arts instructors he'd had while training as Robin a year later and the man assaults him him, Tim easily trounces him. Not only does this display his improvement, it demonstrates that his old instructor's ideology about fighting and martial arts is wrong wrong, which he'd kind of wanted to do call out since they first met but hadn't never tried while studying under him.



* ''ComicBook/TheTransformersDarkCybertron'': Shockwave, the prize student of Jhiaxus surpasses him in the present. Jhiaxus even acknowledges it seeing as how Shockwave is bound by only logic and no emotion, so Jhiaxus willingly follows him on his quest to control reality.

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* In ''VideoGame/WarOfOmens'' Listrata's mentor, Regent Ashkar, attempts to her for her treatment of the Pheneketians. She beats him in the following battle and thanks him for the final lesson.

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* In ''VideoGame/WarOfOmens'' Listrata's mentor, Regent Ashkar, attempts to fight her for her treatment of the Pheneketians. She beats him in the following battle and thanks him for the final lesson.
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* Medieval Christian cathedrals borrowed heavily from the architecture of Rome and the Islamic empire, both civilizations far more advanced. Despite this, the cathedrals ended up making made much of their inspiration look obsolete by comparison.

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* Medieval Christian cathedrals borrowed heavily from the architecture of Rome and the Islamic empire, both civilizations far more advanced. Despite this, the cathedrals ended up making made much of their inspiration look obsolete by comparison.
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** PlayedWith in regard to Gohan as well. By the Cell Games, Gohan surpassed both Piccolo and his father, becoming the strongest characters in the series up to that point. After the seven year time skip, Goku surpasses Gohan since he slacked off and actually got weaker. After getting empowered by Old Kai, Gohan becomes the strongest hero in the series again. He slacks off, again, and Goku greatly surpasses him by a laughable degree by ''Resurrection 'F'''.

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** PlayedWith in regard to Gohan as well. By the Cell Games, Gohan surpassed both Piccolo and his father, becoming the strongest characters in the series up to that point. After the seven year time skip, Goku surpasses Gohan since he slacked off and actually got weaker. After getting empowered by Old Kai, Gohan becomes the strongest hero in the series again. He slacks off, again, and Goku greatly surpasses him by a laughable degree by ''Resurrection 'F'''.'F'.''



** Naruto perfected [[SuperMode Sage Mode]], which Jiraiya wasn't able to do. And in a way he surpassed Kakashi, because Kakashi, like the Fourth Hokage, wasn't able to add element manipulation to the Rasengan (which is why Kakashi made Chidori and later Raikiri).[[note]]It's generally assumed the Fourth Hokage would have managed to accomplish that goal had he not [[PosthumousCharacter died before the start of the manga]].[[/note]]

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** Naruto perfected [[SuperMode Sage Mode]], which Jiraiya wasn't able to do. And in In a way he surpassed Kakashi, because Kakashi, like the Fourth Hokage, wasn't able to add element manipulation to the Rasengan (which is why Kakashi made Chidori and later Raikiri).[[note]]It's generally assumed the Fourth Hokage would have managed to accomplish that goal had he not [[PosthumousCharacter died before the start of the manga]].[[/note]]
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** In the KC Grand Championship arc, Joey duels against Grandpa Muto (who's in disguise under the alias "Apdnarg Otum"). Ultimately, Joey wins.

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** Duke Devlin, creator of Dice Monsters (and at first was one of Yugi's enemies) revealed in his debut (Episode 46) that sometime after creating the game Pegasus played it and even beat him at it!

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** Duke Devlin, creator of Dice Monsters (and at first was one of Yugi's enemies) revealed in his debut (Episode 46) that sometime after creating the game Pegasus played it and even beat him at it!
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* ''VideoGame/TheiaTheCrimsonEclipse'': Zigzagged with Seth and his teacher, Horus. In order to leave the Vanguards, Seth had to win a duel against Horus. However, he does so by slashing Horus's eye, implying he lacks the skill to win without injuring his opponent. In the present, Horus joins as a guest at a higher level, which is implied to be a combination of Horus training more and having Orihalcon cybernetics. At Halderos, Seth wins their duel by disarming Horus, playing this trope straight.
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-->--'''[[Franchise/StarWars Yoda]]''' to Luke Skywalker, ''Film/TheLastJedi''

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** In ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', Dooku tries to pull this against his old master [[spoiler:Yoda]], but ends up retreating and distracting his former master to survive.

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** In ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', Dooku tries to pull this against his old master [[spoiler:Yoda]], Yoda, but ends up retreating and distracting his former master to survive.



** One of the last things Obi-Wan says to Anakin in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' invokes this trope (and echoes what Obi-Wan's own master told him in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''.

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* Invoked and subverted in ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', when the Son, embodiment of TheDarkSide of the Force, kidnapped and forcefully turned Ahsoka to the Dark Side, and made her fight her teacher, Anakin. After she momentarily knocked Anakin's lightsaber out of his hand, she exclaimed that "Now the student will kill the Master!". Anakin, of course, easily got back his lightsaber and blocked her attack, warned her that she was getting carried away, before easily disarming her.



* In the 90s ''WesternAnimation/XMen'', Jean Grey mockingly invokes this to Professor X while in full-on "Dark Phoenix" mode.
-->'''Dark Phoenix:''' You once told Jean Grey that the greatest joy a teacher has is to be surpassed by his own pupil. Enjoy!
* Amy spends the ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom'' episode "Fuzzy Puppy Buddies" teaching Dr. Eggman how to play the titular game. When he manages to best her, she declares this.


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* Invoked and subverted in ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', when the Son, embodiment of TheDarkSide of the Force, kidnapped and forcefully turned Ahsoka to the Dark Side, and made her fight her teacher, Anakin. After she momentarily knocked Anakin's lightsaber out of his hand, she exclaimed that "Now the student will kill the Master!". Anakin, of course, easily got back his lightsaber and blocked her attack, warned her that she was getting carried away, before easily disarming her.
* The main point of conflict in the ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' episode "Steven vs. Amethyst" is that Amethyst's already big [[BerserkButton inferiority complex]] gets bigger when newest Crystal Gem Steven starts surpassing her in ability on the battlefield.


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* In the 90s ''WesternAnimation/XMen'', Jean Grey mockingly invokes this to Professor X while in full-on "Dark Phoenix" mode.
-->'''Dark Phoenix:''' You once told Jean Grey that the greatest joy a teacher has is to be surpassed by his own pupil. Enjoy!
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Anakin was superior, he only lost out of overconfidence.


** One of the last things Obi-Wan says to Anakin in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' invokes this trope (and echoes what Obi-Wan's own master told him in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''), but it's later [[SubvertedTrope proven to not be the case]] when he defeats Vader in combat. Creator/MattStover doesn't refer to Obi-Wan as "the ultimate Jedi" for nothing.

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** One of the last things Obi-Wan says to Anakin in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' invokes this trope (and echoes what Obi-Wan's own master told him in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''), but it's later [[SubvertedTrope proven to not be the case]] when he defeats Vader in combat. Creator/MattStover doesn't refer to Obi-Wan as "the ultimate Jedi" for nothing.''Film/ThePhantomMenace''.
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* ComicBook/PoisonIvy is a meta-example. In-universe, Dr. Pamela Isley was a postdoctoral researcher whose mentor and lover was Dr. Jason Woodroe, the Floronic Man. He experimented on her, which led to her gaining her plant-based powers. As a character, Poison Ivy has become one of the most famous villains in the DC universe while the Floronic Man has been all but forgotten.

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* ComicBook/PoisonIvy is a meta-example. In-universe, Dr. Pamela Isley was a postdoctoral researcher whose mentor and lover was Dr. Jason Woodroe, the Floronic Man. He experimented on her, which led to her gaining her plant-based powers. As a character, Poison Ivy has become one of the most famous best-known villains in the DC universe while the Floronic Man has been all but forgotten.largely forgotten other than his connection to her.



* In ''Film/CrouchingTigerHiddenDragon'', master criminal Jade Fox spent years HidingInPlainSight as the nanny to Governor Yu's daughter Jen, secretly teaching her martial arts as she got older. Fox is self-taught from the famed Wudang manuscript, but because she's [[NeverLearnedToRead illiterate]], she could only study the diagrams. Jen's ability to read the text allowed her to gain a deeper understanding of the techniques, but she hid this knowledge from Fox. When Fox discovers that Jen had become a superior martial artist, it drives a wedge between the two.

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* In ''Film/CrouchingTigerHiddenDragon'', master criminal Jade Fox spent years HidingInPlainSight as the nanny to Governor Yu's daughter Jen, secretly teaching her martial arts as she got older. Fox is self-taught from the famed Wudang manuscript, but because she's [[NeverLearnedToRead illiterate]], she could only study the diagrams. Jen's ability to read the text allowed her to gain a deeper understanding of the techniques, but she hid this knowledge from Fox. When Fox discovers that finds out Jen had become been keeping this a superior martial artist, secret from her, it drives a wedge between the two.
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* ''Series/RupaulsDragRace'': Season 8 contestant [=DaxExclamationPoint=] was the drag mother to Season 7 winner Violet Chatzki. Unfortunately, Dax fared ''much'' more poorly in her own season, as not only was she eliminated in the second episode, but she was part of the show's second-ever double elimination. Of all the mother-daughter pairs that have competed on the show, Dax is the only one (or at least the first one) who did worse than her protege.

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* In ''Film/CrouchingTigerHiddenDragon'', Master criminal Jade Fox spent years HidingInPlainSight as the nanny to Governor Yu's daughter Jen, secretly teaching her martial arts as she got older. Fox is self-taught from the famed Wudang manuscript, but because she's [[NeverLearnedToRead illiterate]], she could only study the diagrams. Jen's ability to read the text allowed her to gain a deeper understanding of the techniques, but she hid this knowledge from Fox. When Fox discovers that Jen had become a superior martial artist, it drives a wedge between the two.

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* In ''Film/CrouchingTigerHiddenDragon'', Master master criminal Jade Fox spent years HidingInPlainSight as the nanny to Governor Yu's daughter Jen, secretly teaching her martial arts as she got older. Fox is self-taught from the famed Wudang manuscript, but because she's [[NeverLearnedToRead illiterate]], she could only study the diagrams. Jen's ability to read the text allowed her to gain a deeper understanding of the techniques, but she hid this knowledge from Fox. When Fox discovers that Jen had become a superior martial artist, it drives a wedge between the two.
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** Similarly, Tom experiences this treatment in reverse in Professor Tom. After failing to get his cousin to learn how to capture mice like Jerry. After failing to properly instruct his cousin, Jerry and the cousin eventually remove Tom of his status and Jerry becomes the new teacher of how to cats should interact with mice.

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* Played for laughs several times in [[WesternAnimation/{{TomAndJerry}}]].

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**Jerry experiences this in Little School Mouse when his nephew manages to find ways to manipulate Tom into helping him achieve the directives set by Jerry. Finally, when the Nephew outright befriends Tom, Jerry resigns himself to being the fool while the nephew becomes the new teacher who promotes cats and mice being friends.
**Similarly, Tom experiences this treatment in reverse in Professor Tom. After failing to get his cousin to learn how to capture mice like Jerry. After failing to properly instruct his cousin, Jerry and the cousin eventually remove Tom of his status and Jerry becomes the new teacher of how to cats should interact with mice.
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* This a major theme in several of the games of the ''VideoGame/{{Atelier}}'' franchise. Particularly in the latter games of the series, which are trilogies, it is not unusual for the star of the next game to have the previous game's lead character as their alchemy teacher. They will then go on to achieve feats that the teacher never even could have imagined.

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