History Main / StopHavingFunGuys

** Heck, just having the "wrong" ''moveset'' can cause the StopHavingFunGuys to look down upon you. And to put it further, having the wrong nature, stats, and whatnot is also frowned upon.

*** One words: Demoknights. After the Demoman gained the ability to give up his StickyBomb ability for increased melee potential, players will either complain about either how using stickies is unfair because it encourages camping or that Valve never should have given the ''demolitions'' man an ability completely related to [[StuffBlowingUp blowing shit up]].

* The biggest, and perhaps most [[MemeticMutation goofy]] of all fighting games' [=SHFG=] goes to the ''entire'' SuperSmashBros series. Despite all the ways that this game can be played on both the goofball mess fests and serious 1 on 1 duels, a lot of the serious players seem to heavily focus on the Tournament Level, which focuses on not using items and playing very static stages. While there is nothing wrong with this style of play, it isn't how everyone likes to play, per say. None the less, a quick stop to any Smash Forum [[InternetBackdraft and asking up the idea of "how do you play" is not really a good idea...]] This is lovingly [[http://legendaryfrog.deviantart.com/art/Hardcorez-75608753 drawn out in this LegendaryFrog comic]]. The Tournament scene is arguably more well known for its Hatedom than anything else. Despite this, it's hard to find Brawl games that ''do'' allow items and break the AbridgedArenaArray.

* Older people expressing an interest in activities or forms of entertainment that are more commonly associated with kids or teenagers. Once you turn twenty five, you are no longer permitted to enjoy cartoons, video games, cosplay, fanfiction, anime, Halloween or anything else that has been arbitrarily designated as "kids/teens only." The only way you're allowed to enjoy such things unironically is vicariously through a kid, either yours or one that you "borrowed" so you'd have an excuse to do "kid stuff." Stop having fun, old guys, lest someone label you a stunted deviant that won't grow up because you own a PS3. And never mind that the people who created the material for consumption by kids only are usually in their late twenties, thirties, or even *GASP!* their forties (my God, why are people allowed to live to that age???).

** ''RockBand'' fans get one up on the [=SHFGs=]: the new version will teach to play proper guitar, and it taught basic singing, drums and now keyboard anyway. Once we get a good song writer we'll be doing live gigs for real.
*** Not really true. The new ''Rock Band'' controller teaches people to play an insanely rare version of the keytar. This is a good example of the {{Scrub}} reaction to SHFG. ''Rock Band'' and ''Guitar Hero'' intentionally distill instruments to [[RuleOfFun a form simple enough to be fun]] for people without years of training, it was never intended as a teaching tool.
** Some ''actual musicians in bands'' have tried rhythm games and failed, simply because the controllers are different than actual guitars or drums, for a variety of reasons[[hottip:* :For example, the game might represent a guitar arpeggio by having the player move up and down the neck, while a "real" guitarist would hold one chord the whole time and pluck each string in sequence. Also, an experienced musician playing a familiar song [[DamnYouMuscleMemory must fight his or her own muscle memory]], similar to being HollywoodToneDeaf.]]. One such example appears in ''GeneSimmonsFamilyJewels'', where KISS tries to play ''Detroit Rock City'' on ''Rock Band 2'', but fails after only a few seconds. Such encounters often leads the game's fans [[FanDumb to accuse the musicians of not being able to play their instruments.]]

* ''{{Disgaea2}}''. Do you use monster classes for anything other that Magichange? You are noob, humanoids are way better. The best class is [[strike:Samurai]]MagicKnight. And God help you if you teach healer any attack magic.

** Some ''actual musicians in bands'' have tried rhythm games and failed, simply because the controllers are different than actual guitars or drums, for a variety of reasons [[hottip:* : for example, the game might represent a guitar arpeggio by having the player move up and down the neck, while a "real" guitarist would hold one chord the whole time and pluck each string in sequence. Also, an experienced musician playing a familiar song [[DamnYouMuscleMemory must fight his or her own muscle memory]], similar to being HollywoodToneDeaf.]] One such example appears in ''GeneSimmonsFamilyJewels'', where KISS tries to play ''Detroit Rock City'' on ''Rock Band 2'', but fails after only a few seconds. Such encounters often leads the game's fans [[FanDumb to accuse the musicians of not being able to play their instruments.]]

** The server Tichondrius is widely known to be the worst in ''WoW'', as it is filled to the gills with elitist [=PvPer=] jerks who will actually SCAN YOUR ARMORY PROFILE to make sure you are a seasoned [=PvPer=]. If you aren't? You're blacklisted by all players. Fun does not exist here and so (as the servers motto goes) "Tichondrius is Not For You".

** The official ''World of Warcraft'' class forums are chock full of posters that epitomize this trope. Don't have a + 16 Intellect gem in every gem slot of your gear? Then you are the worst Holy Paladin in the world and deserve to be boiled in acid. Have a talent point spent somewhere other than in the cookie-cutter build? Delete your character immediately and never play ''WoW'' again, you complete and utter loser.
** There are massive complaints on the forums by the very vocal minority of "Hardcore" Raiders stating how Blizzard is ruining the game by allowing Casual Gamers to acquire endgame gear with the new Random Dungeon Finder tool (which allows players to get into Pick Up Groups that have a fair chance of not sucking, and hands out endgame loot tokens for successful runs). Has everyone forgotten that ''WoW'' has always been a casual-player-targeted MMO?

* There's been a recent controversy on {{Twitter}}, specifically the "TwitterDex", a group of people who like to act out ''{{Pokemon}}'' Tweets that have their own wiki. A recent influx of people portraying characters from the games (such as [[http://twitter.com/E4Karen Karen]], [[http://twitter.com/Champion_Lance Lance]], and [[http://twitter.com/ChampionSteven Steven]]) who chose to portray their characters in slightly different ways than they're shown in {{canon}} have crossed paths with the "veterans" who think that the Twitter series they're posting "isn't an RP" and that their characters are "out of line". A recent incident involving a party at Steven's house where people drank and had a good time ([[RuleOfFirstAdopters some more than others]], though nothing truly explicit occurred) was shut down when Steven reached his Tweet Limit for the day and arguments regarding the portrayal of characters and clogging up followers' feeds with multiple tweets began.
* Forum [[PlayByPost Play-by-posts]]. Seriously many people require you to have an extreme amounts of actions taken. Of course this may also happen when you are playing numerous characters or [[{{NPC}} Non-player characters]] at once, which would result in a longer post; but if you have only ONE character, then you MUST match theirs in length and description! [[WallBanger Even when you are NOT in control of the environment and therefore have nothing else to describe but your character's actions.]] Another case where it goes both ways - some StopHavingFunGuys will demand that you simply don't overload them with details or introduce them over time, and will enable you to get away with a shorter post, and if you do too much stuff then you're overwhelming other players or are just trying to show off. Bottom line? Either try and balance "Get right to the point" and "Enriching the world", don't add details for the sake of longer posts and don't just say you nod and that's all, or adapt to the type of game you're in.
* MUSHes and MUCKs often suffer from the above phenomena too. Some will encourage (or require) you to write "long, descriptive" poses or character descriptions (what others see when they "@look" at your character), where it turns out that "long and descriptive" actually means "a giant rambling paragraph of PurpleProse." And then there are the competitive posers who try to constantly one-up each other in length and PurpleProse...

* Apparently, you're not really a fan of the ''{{Mario}}'' game series unless you know ''every'' single warp pipe, hidden 1-Up block, secret passage, blah, blah, blah like the back of your hand. Likewise, some fans will tell you that the only way to beat the game is to ''not'' use any warp pipes (or the warp flute in ''SMB3''), while others will tell you that ''using'' the warp pipe is the best way.

* [Table-Top Wargaming, aka playing with toy soldiers, has its own two versions of Stop Having Fun Guys. Type one think that you can't be a proper member of the hobby if you haven't allowed for the fact that at the battle of Bunker Hill Nathaniel Smith was riding a borrowed horse, while Type two only ever plays an ad-hoc elite SS unit containing every Jagdtiger tank the Germans ever built.

* ''Certain'' {{canon}} purists when it comes to {{fanfic}}. Most canon sticklers will give plenty of leeway when it stories that take place "between the scenes" or that play around but still remain canon-compliant. They give even more leeway if the story is marked as an [[AUFic AU]] as long as canon isn't completely [[CanonDerailment derailed]]. However there is a certain group that will have none of that. Fanfic stories must adhere strictly to canon and never deviate from what has been explicitly presented. For example, a canon purist who is also a Stop Having Fun Guy will flame an author for describing a character's home or having him go there because this home never appeared on any episode of the show, which defeats the point of making a fanfic in the first place. But when a fic follows canon ''too'' closely, they bitch that ItsTheSameNowItSucks.

** Besides that, most comments on the songs will simply consist of "FC" (Full Combo), sometimes followed up with "Too easy" or "Can't believe someone failed it".The moderator staff deleted them at first, but eventually resigned and let the SHFGs shout out their pride.

* The aging, but still fairly popular ''RedFaction'' has had this problem from time to time. For a three or four year period, there was an extremely common server-side mod (still around, but the playerbase has shrunk considerably, with the SHFGs moving on to newer and flashier games) that would disable the Fusion Rocket Launcher (blasts a huge hole in the ground, and kills anyone in a considerable raidus), the Heavy Machine Gun (most powerful automatic weapon), the Super health/armor (gives double the normal max), and the invincibily/damage amp powerups.

* ''{{Minecraft}}'' is young yet, but it's already got SHFGs lurking around the forums. Since the game is still in alpha, they dedicate their time not to deriding people for playing wrong, but to demanding Notch make alterations to the game to force people to play it "right". This includes everything from removing any feature whose only practical purpose is the creativity factor, to altering the way certain tools work ''for aesthetic reasons''.

* TVTropes is unfortunately starting to become this way, from image vigilantes going after JustAFaceAndACaption to nattar nuking ConversationInTheMainPage, some see it as misguided attempts to clean up the wiki that suck the fun out of the place.

* ''{{Disgaea2}}''. Do you use monster classes for anything other that Magichange? You are noob, humanoids are way better. The best class is [[strike:Samurai]]MagicKnight. And god help you if you teach healer any attack magic.

* ''{{Maplestory}}''. If you don't have godly gear, or if your damage isn't up to par with the (increasingly more) absurd standards set by the "pros" (read: people who spend entire days just merchanting for Meso, the game's currency), or if you're playing one of the least popular classes, or, god forbid, if you play the game for fun rather than for leveling up. (Such as, say, NOT hiring a high level cleric to train you, a costly but fast process that lets you skip ahead in levels quickly), you're a noob.

* ''FinalFantasyXI''. Dear god, ''FinalFantasyXI''. The game has 20 jobs, of which you can pick a main and a sub. Of those 300+ combinations, there are maybe 15 that are acceptable to the SHFG: Any Melee class that is not Samurai or Dragoon shouldn't even bother leaving the Mog house. Sorry Warriors, Dark Knights, Thieves, etc -- you're only going to be invited to a [=SHFG's=] party if there aren't any Samurais or Dragoons available. If you are not playing Samurai or Dragoon because you have already taken both to the level cap -- you should expect to have one of three subjobs as a melee -- either /SAM (for anyone over 60), /WAR (for anyone under 60) and /NIN (for parties with a particularly loud [=SHFG=] leader). These are the only acceptable subjobs, all others will be asked to change before leaving town.

** You must use the [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome autoshotgun]]! If you pick the assault rifle or (god forbid) the hunting rifle, [[SarcasmMode you're hurting your team so much you may as well be teamkilling]]. (Amusingly enough, many people consider the hunting rifle, and its big brother the military sniper rifle, some of the best guns in the sequel.)

** Of particular note for mass hilarity is ice fishing, though some tournaments do state upfront they ban all but certain specific ways of fishing. Go ahead and use a spear or large handheld net normally though. Just do it. Lets ignore the fact the Inuit have done it this way for centuries, civilized people only use rod & tackle, same as in normal fishing. And god help you if you're sitting on anything other than your bait box. A lawn chair? You scummy suburbanite trendwhore! How dare you also dress comfortably!

* If you play ''{{Worms}}'' and you don't use rope every turn, use certain weapon combinations or get to the crates in time, god have mercy on your soul. Playing an online version with a mic (such as the Xbox Live Arcade versions) gets even worse, as you'll get several [=SHFGs=] yelling at you for every minor step you take, [[WallBanger even if you're winning the match.]]

* If you play ''any'' game in the ''FireEmblem'' series, you'd better not go on any fan forums and mention using any character that isn't [[CharacterTiers high tier]], and you better not say you didn't use a god tier character. If you do, expect to get flamed about why "X is terrible, Y is so much better" and "You're such a noob for not using Z".

* TVTropes is unfortunately starting to become this way, from image vigilantes going after JustAFaceAndACaption to nattar nuking ConversationInTheMainPage, some see it as misguided attempts to clean up the wiki that suck the fun out of the place.
** Actually, the reason people do that is because TvTropes requests it.

* Film preference can be bad about this. Fan or lover of a {{BFM}}? You're a LowestCommonDenominator with no real taste or idea of what separates the [[TrueArt real stuff]] from those {{ClicheStorm}}s that Hollywood belches out... And yes, it even happens here on TVTropes.

* {{Nintendo}} take a similar view on emulation. Doesn't matter if you have an old cartridge of SuperMarioBrothers, they would dearly like to make the use of old, out of stock games punishable by death.

* {{MUGEN}} has a LOT of these guys running around. Due to just how much ground the MUGEN fanbase covers, you are bound to find every type of this imaginable. For every helpful fellow willing to show you the ropes and help you learn how the engine works, you have a hundred angry vets calling you a noob. For every kind soul that offers to guide you to better versions of the characters you like, there are a ton of snarky folks yelling at you for not knowing better. Then there's the fact that nearly every franchise with characters available in the engine has solid fan base and hate bases, so you can expect a lot of controversy in that regard. Finally and probably most aggravatingly, there is the elitist fighting game fanboy that will laugh at you and despise you if you show so much as a passing interest in Mugen. Because clearly enjoying a fighting game engine means you know nothing about fighting games, right?
* The first requested faq on any SmackdownVsRaw game? "I want a CAW of last year's JohnCena, and 2009's Cena, and 2008's Cena, one with a hat, one without a hat, one with a singlet..." The second requested faq however is "lol what are all the unblockable Gamebreaker moves? I go tke my 98 level CAW to pwn all u noobs cause i'm so l33t lol."

* ''Mass Effect'' has a notorious amount of SHFG. Didn't kill the Rachni queen without metagaming? You're retarded. Didn't keep the Collector base? You deserve to die. Saved the Council? Get off the forum!
** Also, if you don't play on [[HarderThanHard Insanity]] as a rule- Insanity being the hardest difficulty- you're no better than a scrub, because according to the BioWare forums, Insanity is apparently "the difficulty the game was meant to be played on."
** Usually inverted on the popular Mass Effect threads on [[ImageBoard 4chan's]] [[VideoGames /v/]] board., though with [[NotSoDifferent similar responses.]] Kill the [[ObstructiveBeauracrat Council?]] What are you doing!? Save the Collector base? You're gonna doom the galaxy! [[ShippingWars Romance]] [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Tali?]] Bad move! Kill off [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Wrex]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse and]] [[WarriorPoet Grunt]]? Get out right now.
* PennyArcade has the story of how Gabe [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/07/23/pokemon/ took the mickey out of]] a larval-stage SHFG. Also [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/07/23/awesome/ a follow-up post]] showing why if you are a parent of a young child, you should never, ever let him or her attend an officially sanctioned tournament.
* Go to the general board of any Pokémon game in GameFaqs, and ask for advice on which moves you should teach to your freshly caught favourite. There will always be someone who will (a) tell you that this pokémon is not suited for competitive use, and point towards better pokémon who outdoes yours in every possible aspect, (b) variation of the first, suggesting an ineffective moveset because your pokémon does not deserve the good TMs, or (c) copy-paste a Smogon moveset, even if it involves chainbreeding.
*** Smogon movesets in particular are rather useless for normal play - the average Smogon moveset requires not only chainbreeding, but also pulling the Pokemon up to 100, EV and IV training every stat from the bottom, and using one-use, hard-to-find items. Also notably, most tiers in the game are based on the rest of the metagame, and only one Gym Leader in any game (Roark's Geodude and Onix in D/P/P, which he puts aside for the rematch) uses [[GameBreaker Stealth Rock.]]
**** Smogon movesets, at this point, aren't even for cartridge play. A lot of them involve giving the pokemon in question a specific Hidden power type, which is impossible in the actual games. They're all really only meant for Shoddy Battle, Smogon's Gen IV battle sim.
** This in turn means that they totally ignore the idea that some players don't do competitive battles or like to keep things simple.
** It isn't just GameFaqs. Pretty much anywhere the {{Pokemon}} fandom hangs out you will find REALLY obnoxious {{Stop Having Fun Guys}}. There may be more than even [[SuperSmashBros Smash Bros.]] Wi-fi and {{YouTube}} videos are dominated by them, so much that you can't find a casual battle anywhere unless you play with friends. And the worst of all is Smogon. Whatever you do, don't go to Smogon if you're a casual player.
** In fact, pretty much the entire competitive Pokémon community is the epitome of this trope. If you’re one of the poor fools who ''dares'' to raise your Pokémon without [[strike:horribly and cruelly abusing/biologically mutating]] EV Training them, you are going to be called a {{Scrub}} and be publicly humiliated. And if you even think about ''thinking about'' mentioning that it’s actually a physical possibility to play the game without regard to the endless amounts of soulless numbers and statistics, prepare to be mercilessly flamed until absolutely nothing is left of you.

** Do ''not'' mention you use "Uber" Pokemon. At all. Even if you're just a casual player (IE: Not very competitive) the more hardcore gamers will accuse you of using nothing more than "GameBreakers" or "Relying too much on over-powered Pokemon to win battles". Heck, just having an "Uber" on your team and not even ''using'' it counts.

** This troper supposes that all most be screwed than in Suikoden 2 when one of the character recruitments 'requires' a certain amount of battle retreats. SHFG's tend not to be big on logic or exemptions.
* Apparently, you're supposed to enjoy grinding levels as well. If you don't, then you just don't know how to have fun in an RPG.

*** And then played straight, as actually playing the game with the Experts of FFVIII will give you a very bizarre Follow the Soup Cans kind of logic in how to "properly" play the game. Said way tends to involve either playing Card Games or trying to Card Them All! Which actually is even LONGER and MORE complicated then normal Level Grinding.

* On that note, do not mention Break HP Limit to any ''FinalFantasyX''. Ever. Otherwise, be prepared for a Paragraph of text on how stupid you are for even thinking of using it, and another Paragraph in how your SUPPOSED to be fighting "Insert Bonus Boss Here". Like the FFVIII example, it tends to be a Follow the Soup Cans! Logic that probably involves just as much work to find all the parts that you need. Figures.

* Try playing {{Fallout}}3 without using VATS much, or by actually playing as a good guy. Prepare to have people yelling your head off.
** Even if it's not a competitive game, don't you dare admit to using certain perks, like the ones that increase your experience gain or reveal all the map locations, because you're a noob who needs to level up faster to play the game to win.
*** Actually, don't even bother admitting to playing or liking Fallout 3 even if it's the ever buggy PC version. There are many a SHFG who whines endlessly about their dislike for the game and will not allow you to enjoy it on those merits.
* When faced with a party of {{Munchkin}}s, a game of ''DungeonsAndDragons'' can turn into this very quickly. Woe to you if you happen to have a character who is not min-maxed up the arse. Even if you want to make a character who fulfills a role that the party needs, you're still a worthless maggot because you aren't multiclassing/are multiclassing/aren't using a [[GameBreaker cleric or druid]].
** It can be a real problem in some editions if characters are at different levels of min/maxing: the game balance can be shattered. A character min/maxed by a pro and a character made by a person new to the game can have such a gap in power and survivability that anything that would be a challenge for the min/maxed character is likely to destroy the new person's character in one round. A certain amount of balance must be struck in this case where the DM either reigns in the min/maxed character or helps the new player min/max their character somewhat, or a combination thereof. What makes the StopHavingFunGuy is he will be unwilling to either tone down his character or help the other player beef up his, instead deciding to berate and insist that his character is not the problem at all and expect everyone to play his way.

* There was a time in AdventureQuest's history (before a lot of the new quests were released with both low and high level versions) when they were all one difficulty. Then Fire War was released, a low-to-medium level quest against the fire mage Drakkonan. This was immediately followed by a string of level 80+ content. When people complained that they couldn't do any of the new content they were told in no uncertain terms that low-level players had been given one special event and that was enough. Some particularly {{egregious}} arguments insinuated that even giving low-level players one event amounted to insufferable persecution of hardcore fans.
* {{Disgaea2}}. Do you use monster classes for anything other that Magichange? You are noob, humanoids are way better. The best class is [[strike:Samurai]]MagicKnight. And god help you if you teach healer any attack magic.

* Honorable Mention goes to the various "real musicians" who tell players of games like ''GuitarHero'' and ''Rock Band'' that they should stop playing video games and learn a real instrument, ignoring the fact there are no ModernWarfare fans killing passengers at airports like the infamous ''No Russian'' level, or otherwise stop playing video games and join the real CIA. Most of the time, however, these people fail to realize that these games do not just emulate playing an instrument, but the entire rock star lifestyle, which would normally be extremely improbable to obtain in real life regardless of how well one can play a real guitar.
** RockBand fans get one up on the SHFGs: the new version will teach to play proper guitar, and it taught basic singing, drums and now keyboard anyway. Once we get a good song writer we'll be doing live gigs for real.
*** Not really true. The new Rock Band controller teaches people to play an insanely rare version of the keytar. This is a good example of the Scrub reaction to SHFG. Rock Band and Guitar Hero intentionally distill instruments to a form simple enough to be fun for people without years of training, it was never intended as a teaching tool.
** Some ''actual musicians in bands'' have tried rhythm games and failed, simply because the controllers are different than actual guitars or drums, for a variety of reasons [[hottip:* : for example, the game might represent a guitar arpeggio by having the player move up and down the neck, while a "real" guitarist would hold one chord the whole time and pluck each string in sequence. Also, an experienced musician playing a familiar song must fight his or her own muscle memory, similar to being HollywoodToneDeaf.]] One such example appears in ''GeneSimmonsFamilyJewels'', where KISS tries to play ''Detroit Rock City'' on ''Rock Band 2'', but fails after only a few seconds. Such encounters often leads the game's fans [[FanDumb to accuse the musicians of not being able to play their instruments.]]

** [[UnfortunateImplications One wonders if, for games like]] CommandAndConquer, MedalOfHonor and the like, [[IfYouAreSoEvilEatThisKitten Al Qaeda feel the same]].

** On a very similar note, Blizzard has announced that in the upcoming expansion, Cataclysm, Battleground PvP, most often considered by SHFG's to be a complete and total waste of arena time, is going to provide rewards at least on par with Arena gear. As can be expected, posting about it on ANY Arena forums is a bad idea.

** The server Tichondrius is widely known to be the worst in WoW, as it is filled to the gills with elitist [=PvPer=] jerks who will actually SCAN YOUR ARMORY PROFILE to make sure you are a seasoned [=PvPer=]. If you aren't? You're blacklisted by all players. Fun does not exist here and so (as the servers motto goes) "Tichondrius is Not For You".

*** The Rampage US battlegroup has similar problems with TWO such servers; Illidan and Cho'gall. Don't argue with them. Just smile and nod. Their vision is based on movement.
** The official World of Warcraft class forums are chock full of posters that epitomize this trope. Don't have a + 16 Intellect gem in every gem slot of your gear? Then you are the worst Holy Paladin in the world and deserve to be boiled in acid. Have a talent point spent somewhere other than in the cookie-cutter build? Delete your character immediately and never play WoW again, you complete and utter loser.
** There are massive complaints on the forums by the very vocal minority of "Hardcore" Raiders stating how Blizzard is ruining the game by allowing Casual Gamers to acquire endgame gear with the new Random Dungeon Finder tool (which allows players to get into Pick Up Groups that have a fair chance of not sucking, and hands out endgame loot tokens for successful runs). Has everyone forgotten that WoW has always been a casual-player-targeted MMO?

** The Random Dungeon Finder combined with the new gearscore attributes have caused a whole new outbreak of StopHavingFunGuys. It's not at all uncommon to wait some time to get a random group, only to have the tank and/or healer (the two hardest members to find) look at your gearscore and immediately declare they are "not playing with a bunch of noobs" and drop group -- even if said gearscore is equivalent to raid-quality gear prior to the most recent raid dungeon updates and you are playing an easy 5-man instance. It can also lead to party leaders voting to boot other party members with "unacceptable" gear scores. An exceptionally petty action when the said low-scoring player is probably still leveling their endgame gear and they just got bumped from the chance to earn tokens to buy better gear, and by getting booted from a random dungeon party, they are now forced to re-queue. The worst bit is that the point at which a gear score stops being too low is about the same point as you don't want any of the gear from the dungeon anyway. If you actually need something from the dungeon you're running, you're not good enough.

** Some people have this very attitude towards vanity items and the people who farm for them: Why would you farm for a mount and/or pet? It doesn't help you during a boss fight. Same goes for people who do Vanilla/BC raids. You're dumb for collecting old gear that's outmatched by the greens you got while questing in Outlands/Northrend.

* The reverse has been known to be true as well; some players advocate a maximum number of lines (usually three or five) per post for a variety of reasons that boil down to "you're a noob if you can't say what you need to say in three lines" or "you're a poser who pads his posts with purple prose." It can become a CyclicTrope when the para-posters become dominant in a particular chat, leave a couple of disgruntled veterans who aren't on the paragraph side, and the latter become role models for a lot of newbies who don't like the para-post clans, form their own clans until they become dominant in numbers and the para-posting clans disintegrate, leaving behind a few old guard who start wowing the newbies with their "mad posting skillz..."
* There's been a recent controversy on Twitter, specifically the "TwitterDex", a group of people who like to act out Pokemon Tweets that have their own wiki. A recent influx of people portraying characters from the games (such as [[http://twitter.com/E4Karen Karen]], [[http://twitter.com/Champion_Lance Lance]], and [[http://twitter.com/ChampionSteven Steven]]) who chose to portray their characters in slightly different ways than they're shown in canon have crossed paths with the "veterans" who think that the Twitter series they're posting "isn't an RP" and that their characters are "out of line". A recent incident involving a party at Steven's house where people drank and had a good time ([[FreudWasRight some more than others]], though nothing truly explicit occurred) was shut down when Steven reached his Tweet Limit for the day and arguments regarding the portrayal of characters and clogging up followers' feeds with multiple tweets began.
* Forum Play-by-posts. Seriously many people require you to have an extreme amounts of actions taken. Of course this may also happen when you are playing numerous characters or Non-player characters at once, which would result in a longer post; but if you have only ONE character, then you MUST match theirs in length and description! [[WallBanger Even when you are NOT in control of the environment and therefore have nothing else to describe but your character's actions.]] Another case where it goes both ways -- some StopHavingFunGuys will demand that you simply don't overload them with details or introduce them overtime and will enable you to get away with a shorter post, and if you do too much stuff then you're overwhelming other players or are just trying to show off. Bottom line? Either try and balance "Get right to the point" and "Enriching the world", don't add details for the sake of longer posts and don't just say you nod and that's all, or adapt to the type of game you're in.

* Efedding. It's a forum based writing/roleplaying game with ProfessionalWrestling as a backdrop. Efedding players can generally be broken down into "storyline" (writing short stories and chapters thereof featuring your character(s)) and "trashtalk" (doing like real pro wrestlers do and talk trash about your opponent and the match). Stop Having Fun Guys exist on both ends of the spectrum. Trashtalker [=SHFGs=] consider storyliners to be pretentious psuedo-intellectuals who don't know how to play the game. Storyliner [=SHFGs=] consider trashtalkers to be uncreative dullards who don't know how to play the game.

* In ''EVEOnline'' there's a constant struggle going on between "carebears" who do non-PvP related activities such as mining or mission running and the [=PvPers=] and pirates. Sure, there's the saying that "PvP in EVE is consensual and you consent whenever you undock", but [=PvPers=] seem to be of the mind that the game is ALL PvP and you should not have the freedom to play the game the way you like- if you prefer to fly out into an asteroid belt and shoot rocks with a mining laser, you ''deserve'' to die and be taunted for it. This despite the fact that freedom of gameplay is EVE's biggest drawcard and that half the ingame economy is powered by carebears. They're a little more forgiving if you're a new player, and don't have the skills or equipment to survive in 0.0, but veteran players have no excuse. (Which is not to say there aren't carebear players who are just as Serious Business).

* {{Maplestory}}. If you don't have godly gear, or if your damage isn't up to par with the (increasingly more) absurd standards set by the "pros" (read: people who spend entire days just merchanting for Meso, the game's currency), or if you're playing one of the least popular classes, or, god forbid, if you play the game for fun rather than for leveling up. (Such as, say, NOT hiring a high level cleric to train you, a costly but fast process that lets you skip ahead in levels quickly), you're a noob.
* As far as many Runescape players are concerned, if you haven't leveled all of your Free-to-play skills up to ''at least'' 75 than you're barely playing the game. And don't even consider buying a membership; you aren't worthy.

* ''Left4Dead''. While people do need a good amount of skill to survive the Advanced and Expert difficulties, some players will immediately kill or boot another player from the game if they make just one mistake and/or call them a n00b for not knowing how to play properly. Shown a lot more in VS mode where team members will accuse you of making them lose because of...well, anything. Because of stuff like this, [[{{Griefer}} some people get pure joy in making other players rage at their bad game playing]]. This becomes more apparent when you get scolded or booted from the game for something that could be beyond your control, such as shooting someone by accident as they wander into your line of fire or popping a Boomer that was next to someone as it catches you by surprise.
** Doubly annoying in Versus mode, as there is no place to practice the infected side other than during an actual match.
** Don't forget the [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome autoshotgun]]! If you pick the assault rifle or (god forbid) the hunting rifle, [[SarcasmMode you're hurting your team so much you may as well be teamkilling]].
*** Amusingly enough, many people consider the hunting rifle, and its big brother the military sniper rifle, some of the best guns in the sequel.

* ModernWarfare 2: A number of these show up in online play with regards to player gear. Assault rifles, for example: the SCAR-H/ACR fanboys will flame anyone for even daring to use an assault rifle that isn't their most treasured weapon, even players who have ''not yet unlocked'' the ACR. Bonus points if the player is using a FAL which is probably the least-liked assault rifle for not being able to unload its magazine instantly. Grenade-launcher attachments are called Noob-Tubes; if the KnifeNut and Akimbo Shotgun kits suddenly flood a match you can guarantee that anyone trying to use anything else will be flamed for not being a real player. The riot shield is probably the biggest offender to the trope, despite making the player ImmuneToBullets, and its ability to dominate in close-ranged fire-fights especially against opponents armed with shotguns or pistols, using it is seen as a sign of noobhood to the so-called "Pros". Using the 2 "stealth" perks and a silencer/heartbeat bling weapon will invite a hefty dose of flaming more often than not.

* Try to find a ''[[BattlefieldSeries Battlefield 2]]'' server running something other than Strike at Karkand I/O or Wake. Wake in particular is beloved of "pro" players due the the phenomenally unbalanced Chinese jets that can be whored for the entire match. Expect to be teamkilled if you try to get to one first.
** Most ''Battlefield 2142'' Titan games will have ''something'' stupid going on, be it a commander parking his Titan over an antiaircraft gun so he can get tons of repair points for fixing the guns, parking his Titan over a missile silo so he can skip straight to the "loads of easy Claymore and RDX kills" stage of the match, parking his Titan directly in front of the ''other'' Titan for loads of free kills on enemy transports and gunships taking off, or the fact that everyone else playing is either doing it for tons of free Clay and RDX kills or really, really likes dying. Needless to say, this is how the game is "supposed" to be played, and capturing the silos to win rather than fighting through the ludicrously booby-trapped Titan is the height of noobery. Elsewhere, the StopHavingFunGuys can be found abusing the PK rockets / Voss combo to the hilt and accusing anyone who kills them with the Bauer (or, for that matter, anything else) of haxing, or sniping at you from on top of a ridiculously tall building because pod surfing is pro.

* Killing a "crawler" which is a zombie without legs in NaziZombies will cause torments of nerd fury to come upon you. Granted, the frustration is somewhat understandable, as keeping one alive will prevent the next round from starting, allowing the team to rebuild barriers, upgrade weapons, etc. But others frustrations will go too far.
* The aging, but still fairly popular Red Faction has had this problem from time to time. For a three or four year period, there was an extremely common server-side mod (still around, but the playerbase has shrunk considerably, with the SHFGs moving on to newer and flashier games) that would disable the Fusion Rocket Launcher (blasts a huge hole in the ground, and kills anyone in a considerable raidus), the Heavy Machine Gun (most powerful automatic weapon), the Super health/armor (gives double the normal max), and the invincibily/damage amp powerups.

* Expect to be called a noob for doing... just about anything outside of using the advanced sword cancel techniques with shotguns in the online game ''{{GunZ}} the Duel''. Even using the most accurate rifle in the game, you'll be doing nothing but spraying wildly... even after you nail an opponent 14 times in the chest. Using a dagger to knock someone down and shooting them while they're on the ground because they didn't jump out of it? You're being a dagger noob.

* On ''Gears of War'' on Xbox Live, much of community believes that the only weapon that should be used is the Shotgun. If you kill someone with say, the chainsaw or Lancer, it's not uncommon to receive an angry message from that person saying "Take out your shotgun, you noob!".
* In the case of ''MetroidPrime'', the StopHavingFunGuys are actually the company rather than the players. Retro seems to have a deep, abiding and ''entirely pointless'' hatred for sequence breaking, to the point that each successive version has tried progressively harder to ruin the game for speedrunning, apparently simply on the basis that this isn't the correct way to play the game. Most famously, Retro removed the "Space Jump First" glitch (where players who used a "scan jump" glitch when they first land on Tallon IV to get the Space Jump Boots much earlier than intended) from every subsequent edition after the original pressing.

** Not only that, but there is no tutorial, and no practice games. Essentially, to START PLAYING, you have to already be a SHFG on Defense of the Ancients.

* Mario Kart Wii is no better when it comes to using bikes and certain characters with stat bonuses. If you dare to use anyone other than Daisy and Funky Kong (since they have the best bonus for top speed), any bike other than the Dolphin Dasher, Mach Bike, Flame Runner, or even try to play by just using a kart, pro players will tell you that you will always lose and stand no chance against people using a bike. You're also a {{Scrub}} by default if you even go as far as denouncing bikes for being overpowered. Apparently, no one is allowed to use anything other than the top tiered characters and bikes because it's all about using only the best to win.

** Interestingly, Spiderweb Software switched to using IdiosyncraticDifficultyLevels in the later ''{{Geneforge}}'' games as a response to something similar to this. The fanbase itself has relatively little friction between those who play on Normal or Tough in the older games and those who prefer [[HarderThanHard Torment]], but WordOfGod says that there's often an impression that playing on Easy is somehow wrong, and they didn't want people to feel that they were stuck playing on Normal or harder if they had trouble with the games. Makes a certain amount of sense--after all, if they didn't want people using Easy, they wouldn't have included it.

* ''Mount & Blade'' offers players the chance to play either on foot as infantry, or use a horse. In an unusual bidirectional relationship, horse players and infantry players both generally hate each other and view the other side's tactics as noobish. Cavalry players typically hate infantry because they are too slow and don't rack up enough kills, while infantry players typically hate cavalry for being a one trick pony (pun totally intended) and without any real skill.

* Apparently, you're not really a fan of the {{Mario}} game series unless you know ''every'' single warp pipe, hidden 1-Up block, secret passage, blah, blah, blah like the back of your hand.
** Likewise, some fans will tell you that the only way to beat the game is to ''not'' use any warp pipes (or the warp flute in SMB3), while others will tell you that ''using'' the warp pipe is the best way.
** Woe betide anyone who says they don't try for 100% completion in the games. IE: All the levels, all the coins, all the stars, all the bonuses etc.

* Chris Sawyer, creator of the ''Roller Coaster Tycoon'' games, went on the record as saying that the "entire point" of Roller Coaster Tycoon were the scenarios, only the scenarios, and that the casual sandbox-players (that is, those who just wanted to build a simulated theme partk and who didn't care about the scenarios) were "doing it wrong, and needed to get serious and do it right", especially when they used a fan-produced "key" program to open the game up for sandbox play. He disliked sandbox play so much that when he wrote ''Roller Coaster 2'', he included code that would wreck the game if the player attempted to use any sort of "sandbox key". Sales on ''Roller Coaster Tycoon 2'' plummeted appropriately. ''Roller Coaster Tycoon 3'' was not only produced without input by Chris Sawyer, it included an open sandbox option.
* Table-Top Wargaming, aka playing with toy soldiers, has it's own two versions of Not Having Fun Guys. Type one think that you can't be a proper member of the hobby if you haven't allowed for the fact that at the battle of Bunker Hill Nathaniel Smith was riding a borrowed horse while Type two only ever plays an ad-hoc elite SS unit containing every Jagdtiger tank the Germans ever built.

* {{Minecraft}} is young yet, but it's already got SHFGs lurking around the forums. Since the game is still in alpha, they dedicate their time not to deriding people for playing wrong, but to demanding Notch make alterations to the game to force people to play it "right". This includes everything from removing any feature whose only practical purpose is the creativity factor, to altering the way certain tools work ''for aesthetic reasons''.

** Of particular note for mass hilarity is ice fishing, though some tournaments do state upfront they ban all but certain specific ways of fishing. Go ahead and use a spear or large handheld net normally though. Just do it. Lets ignore the fact the Inuit have done it this way for centuries, civilized people only use rod&tackle, same as in normal fishing. And god help you if you're sitting on anything other than your bait box. A lawn chair? You scummy suburbanite trendwhore! How dare you also dress comfortably!

* In any strategy videogame, if you believe the forums, there are exactly two kinds of players. According to the ''other'' kind, these are turtlers, who suck at the game and need to come out and fight and use proper tactics, and rushers, who need to lay off the caffiene and actually try to have some fun. Both are the offspring of the terrible union of Satan, Hitler and Skeletor.

** Worse yet: In Heroes of Might and Magic V there are people who actually come with arguments of how the Dungeon faction, specialist in destruction magic, is now completely ruined and obviously inferior to any other faction using destruction magic because other Heroes don't have a natural skill that pierces magic resistance, and thus, the Black Dragon's magic immunity, regardless of the fact that Warlocks, the Dungeon heroes, does from 50% to 200% more damage with destruction and receives way more Spell Power than any other faction hero save necromancers, and these are better off debuffing enemy armies and raising back theirs than wasting their mana in damaging spells. Trying using a destruction spell that isn't Armageddon didn't cross anyone's mind apparently.

* In SupremeCommander , if you don't use your Commander as a heavy tank destroying heavy platform in the early game, you're obviously trying to lose. Also building anything else than light tanks and engineers in the early game. Or using any other strategy than the siege bot spamming in the late game.
** Unfortunately (Or fortunately, depending on your tastes) [[StrawmanHasAPoint due to the way the original SupremeCommander was designed, if you didn't follow the above advice and someone else did, you were almost guaranteed to lose on most maps]]. It wasn't just good strategy: it was pretty much a required set of tactics and it came down to who could do the above tactics better... Fortunately, the expansion, Forged Alliance, added some new units and shook things up a bit, variety-wise, but the tactics still remain ingrained deeply in the community.
* And let's not begin with CommandAndConquer itself. Didn't maximize the ore income in the beginning of the game with 3+ refineries? You lose. Didn't immediately begin to spam your basic tank? You lose. You actually bothered with human soldiers? You're so noob it hurts the pro's mother.
* {{Starcraft}} is a unique RTS in the sense that it requires the same twitch reflexes usually associated with FPSers and Fighting Gamers. Your commands per second is less than 3? What are you doing wasting the professional's time and ruining their fun? You're not even worth thinking about. Didn't know that to defeat a 6 zergling zerg you only need a Zealot and a shield recharger... plus inhumanly reflexes capable of attacking the zerglings, landing exactly 2 hits and retreating before they can gank your zealot, ganking the zerglings with your probes as the zealot retreat, while recharging the zealot's shield? Even south koreans babies are born knowing that. You don't deserve to exist if you didn't know that.
** Thankfully though, {{Starcraft}} generally manges to avert the trope since the best players play professionally and don't have time to be on the same server as the average players. The best average players can't invoke this trope since they are far and away worse than the pros.

* If you don't play {{Civilization}} at the highest difficulty setting using a build order that has been mathematically proven to be the absolute best then you're a brain-dead sub-human.
** If you play at any difficulty level below Prince then sorry but you're too stupid to play Civ and should buy a game more to your level like Barney Teaches Numbers or something.

** To make matters even worse, there's a subset of tournament players who play in Friday Night Magic (the most casual of the game's nationally sanctioned tournament formats) just to boost their player rating. Why is rating important? Because a high rating can qualify you for high-level tournaments that aren't necessarily open to all players, among other things. So these players will farm rating off of any newbie or cash-poor regular who shows up at the tournament looking for a fun chance to play some Magic. As if that weren't bad enough, a common response to beating the stuffing out of the "lesser" player is along the lines of "Well, you didn't lose that much rating anyway, since yours is so much lower than mine." Ignoring the fact that if you cared about your rating at all, the match might have lasted longer than seven minutes, including time to shuffle.
** Dan Shive, of ElGoonishShive, reports the following dialogue following a game of Magic (he was the one using the card):

* ''Certain'' canon purists when it comes to fanfic. Most canon sticklers will give plenty of leeway when it stories that take place "between the scenes" or that play around but still remain canon-compliant. They give even more leeway if the story is marked as an AU as long as canon isn't completely derailed. However there is a certain group that will have none of that. Fanfic stories must adhere strictly to canon and never deviate from what has been explicitly presented. For example, a canon purist who is also a Stop Having Fun Guy will flame an author for describing a character's home or having him go there because this home never appeared on any episode of the show.
** Which defeats the point of making a fanfic in the first place.
** And when a fic follows canon ''too'' closely, they bitch that ItsTheSameNowItSucks.

* Whenever a comic book character is adopted into television or movie form, there will be legions of angry fanboys screaming about ''every. single. detail'' that differs even ''slightly'' from the comics. For examples, see: {{Smallville}}, The {{X-Men}} Trilogy, eh, virtually ''EVERY'' onscreen adaptation of a comic book character will have an army of {{StopHavingFunGuys}} flaming the people who enjoy it.

''You do realize that [[MassEffect wooing aliens]]\[[SuperMarioBrothers eating mushrooms]]\[[ModernWarfare killing passengers]] doesn't make you cool like real galactic badasses\plumbers\terrorists, right? Do you hear me? Stop having fun!''

* In ''[[PhantasyStar Phantasy Star Universe]]'', there is a large group of people who will boot you from the party for a number of reasons. Picking up "trash" rare items (Even when there is some value to them)? Not having the right Weapon/Armor element (especially at a low percent)? Having weapons that are not grinded (enough)? Having low Photon Art levels? Daring to not play as the "right" race/class combo, ''especially'' as a disadvantaged one (Beast Gunner, Newman Fighter, CAST Techer)? Getting most of the ''good'' rares when the setting's on Set Random? Oh Noes! Hell, ''just being there'' at the end boxes on missions is a viable reason to be kicked from the party. You don't have to do much to get booted from the party. Sometimes even nothing at all...