History Main / StarTrekMovieCurse

-->-- '''[[TheNostalgiaCritic]]''', in his intro to Star Trek month.

Michael Demtschyna, as noted above, along with SFDebris, have suggested the alternate theory that the movie is bad when any of the main characters sing. These are ''The Final Frontier'', ''Generations'', ''Insurrection'', and ''Nemesis'' (with Chuck snarking that ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' doesn't contain singing only because [[LeaveTheCameraRunning it would distract from the boredom]]).

Interestingly, the ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' franchise seems to be the opposite; odd-numbered movies (''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'', ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade'') do well, while even-numbered movies (''Film/IndianaJonesTemplOfDoom'', ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'') are nowhere near as good.

Interestingly, the ''IndianaJones'' franchise seems to be the opposite; odd-numbered movies (''Raiders of the Lost Ark'', ''Last Crusade'') do well, while even-numbered movies (''Temple of Doom'', ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'') are nowhere near as good.

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-->-- '''[[{{Spaced}} Tim Bisley]]''', played by '''SimonPegg''', who [[HilariousInHindsight starred in the eleventh Star Trek movie]], and noted the irony.

Various ''StarTrek'' series have collected various groups within ''Trek'' fandom: Some will love a particular series, some will gush about almost ''anything'' to do with ''Star Trek'' at all, and some will vocally express their rabid dislike of a particular movie or series, and present a laundry-list of reasons ''why'' it's the worst of the lot.

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''GalaxyQuest'' as a ''Star Trek'' movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''), as [[http://qntm.org/odd put by]] [[ThingsOfInterest Sam Hughes]]. Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''Film/StarTrek'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]] -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest. A third theory says that, because of ''Film/StarTrek'''s departure from established canon and lack of any apparent message, it is "bad", and it (at least) follows the theory.

Michael Demtschyna, as noted above, along with SFDebris, have suggested the alternate theory that the movie is bad when any of the main characters sing. These are ''The Final Frontier'', ''Generations'', ''Insurrection'', and ''Nemesis'' (with Chuck snarking that ''StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' doesn't contain singing only because [[LeaveTheCameraRunning it would distract from the boredom]]).

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''GalaxyQuest'' as a ''Star Trek'' movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''Film/StarTrek'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]] -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest. A third theory says that, because of ''Film/StarTrek'''s departure from established canon and lack of any apparent message, it is "bad", and it (at least) follows the theory.

Some have also taken to referring the [[ContinuityReboot reboot]] film as "''Star Trek 0''," thus placing it in an arguably even spot. Alternately, [[ThingsOfInterest Sam Hughes]] [[http://qntm.org/odd patches the theory]].

So far, the only films exempted from Curse are the tenth and eleventh, as 2002's ''StarTrekNemesis'' sucked while 2009's ''StarTrekXI'' was a hit, contrary to their position in the series. It is unknown whether this anomaly means the Curse has actually been broken, or merely inverted.

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''GalaxyQuest'' as a ''Star Trek'' movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''[[Film/StarTrek XI]]'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]] -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest. A third theory says that, because of ''XI'''s departure from established canon and lack of any apparent message, it is "bad", and it (at least) follows the theory.

Interestingly, the ''IndianaJones'' franchise seems to be the opposite; odd-numbered movies (''Raiders of the Lost Ark'', ''Last Crusade'') do well, while even-numbered movies (''Temple of Doom'', ''Crystal Skull'') are nowhere near as good.

In a nutshell, the ''Trek'' feature films have followed a peculiar pattern: even-numbered ''Star Trek'' films have always done extremely well at the box office (with the exception of ''[[StarTrekNemesis Nemesis]]''). Odd-numbered films, on the other hand, have either failed miserably or still succeeded, but had a few glaring flaws that kept it from that coveted 'top spot'.

->"''Sure as day follows night, sure as eggs is eggs, sure as every odd numbered ''Star Trek'' movie is shit.''"
-->-- '''[[{{Spaced}} Tim Bisley]]''', played by Simon Pegg, who [[HilariousInHindsight starred in the eleventh Star Trek movie]], and noted the irony.

-->-- [[http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews/StarTrekInsurrection.html Michael Demtschyna, Michael D's Region 4 DVD Info Page]]

So far, the only films exempted from Curse are the tenth and eleventh, as 2002's ''StarTrekNemesis'' sucked while 2009's Film/StarTrek was a hit, contrary to their position in the series. It is unknown whether this anomaly means the Curse has actually been broken, or merely inverted.

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''GalaxyQuest'' as a Star Trek movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''[[Film/StarTrek XI]]'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]] -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest. A third theory says that, because of XI's departure from established canon and lack of any apparent message, it is "bad", and it (at least) follows the theory.

Some have also taken to referring the Reboot film as "Star Trek 0," thus placing it in an arguably even spot. Alternately, [[ThingsOfInterest Sam Hughes]] [[http://qntm.org/odd patches the theory]].

Ominously, all of these "patches" to account for the curse failing twice in a row predict that Star Trek XII (the sequel to the reboot film) will be bad. If the film turns out to be good, then either the curse is well and truly [[BrokenStreak broken]], or it has been [[ResetButton reset]] to the classic odd-bad, even-good paradigm. [[EpilepticTrees Or even more elaborate theories will need to be developed to account for it]].

Interestingly, the IndianaJones franchise seems to be the opposite; Odd numbered movies(Raiders, Last Crusade) do well, while even numbered movies(Temple of Doom, Crystal Skull) are nowhere near as good.

In addition, the odd numbered Beethoven symphonies are the classics (3, 5, 7, and 9. 1, not so much.), whereas the evens don't get as much attention.

-->-- '''[[{{Spaced}} Tim Bisley]]''', played by Simon Pegg, who [[HilariousInHindsight starred in the eleventh Star Trek movie]].

Some have also taken to referring the Reboot film as "Star Trek 0," thus placing it in an arguably even spot.

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''GalaxyQuest'' as a Star Trek movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''[[Film/StarTrek XI]]'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]] -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest.

In addition, the odd numbered Beethoven symphonies are the classics (3, 5, 7, and 9. 1, not so much.), whereas the evens don't get much attention.

Michael Demtschyna, as noted above, along with SFDebris, have suggested the alternate theory that movies in which the cast sing are the bad ones (with Chuck snarking that ''StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' doesn't contain singing only because [[LeaveTheCameraRunning it would detract from being boring]]).

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''GalaxyQuest'' as a Star Trek movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''[[Film/StarTrek XI]]'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]] -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest. SFDebris is of the opinion that it is actually movies in which the cast sing, that are bad.

And then, there's the Star Trek Movie Curse.

In his review of ''Nemesis'', SFDebris argued a different version of the curse, that it is a bad Trek film whenever one of the main characters sings: Kirk and [=McCoy=] sing in Final Frontier, Data sings in Generations, Picard and Data sing in Insurrection, and Data sings again in Nemesis. His exceptions are The Motion Picture ("as singing would only distract from the boredom") and Search For Spock, which he considers an average Trek film.

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''GalaxyQuest'' as a Star Trek movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''[[Film/StarTrek XI]]'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]] -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest.

So far, the only films that seem to break the Curse are 2002's ''StarTrekNemesis'', the tenth film (which, if the curse is to be believed, shouldn't have sucked) and 2009's ''Film/StarTrek'', the eleventh (which, according to the Curse, ''should'' have been a stinker), but it remains to be seen if the Curse is broken, or simply inverted.

-->-- '''Tim Bisley''', who is played by Simon Pegg, who [[HilariousInHindsight starred in the eleventh Star Trek movie]].

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->"''Sure as day follows night, sure as eggs is eggs, sure as every odd numbered ''Star Trek'' movie is shit.''"
-->-- '''Tim Bisley''', who is played by Simon Pegg, who [[HilariousInHindsight starred in the eleventh Star Trek movie]].

->Star Trek Movie Rule #1: The even-numbered Star Trek movies are always better than the odd-numbered Star Trek movies.
->Star Trek Movie Rule #2: If members of the cast sing in a Star Trek Movie, be afraid. Be very afraid.
->Star Trek Movie Rule #3: If the Director of a Star Trek movie also stars in the movie, he'll give himself some really hammy and gratuitous scenes.
-->-- [[http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews/StarTrekInsurrection.html Michael Demtschyna, Michael D's Region 4 DVD Info Page]]

Various ''StarTrek'' series have collected various groups within ''Trek'' fandom: Some will love a particular series, some will gush about almost ''anything'' to do with ''Star Trek'' at all, and some will vocally express their rabid dislike of a particular movie or series, and present a laundry-list of reasons ''why'' it's the worst of the lot.

And then, there's the Star Trek Movie Curse.

In a nutshell, the ''Trek'' feature films have followed a peculiar pattern: even-numbered ''Star Trek'' films have always done extremely well at the box office (with the exception of ''[[StarTrekNemesis Nemesis]]''). Odd-numbered films, on the other hand, have either failed miserably or still succeeded, but had a few glaring flaws that kept it from that coveted 'top spot'.

So far, the only films that seem to break the Curse are 2002's ''StarTrekNemesis'', the tenth film (which, if the curse is to be believed, shouldn't have sucked) and 2009's ''Film/StarTrek'', the eleventh (which, according to the Curse, ''should'' have been a stinker), but it remains to be seen if the Curse is broken, or simply inverted.

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''GalaxyQuest'' as a Star Trek movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''[[Film/StarTrek XI]]'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]] -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest.

Some have also taken to referring the Reboot film as "Star Trek 0," thus placing it in an arguably even spot.

Currently, Blu-Ray Disc collectors can buy the even-numbered movies and reboot individually, while the odd-numbered movies are only available in box sets of ''Star Trek'' films.
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Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including ''GalaxyQuest'' as a Star Trek movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''[[Film/StarTrek XI]]'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]] -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest.

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including ''GalaxyQuest'' as a Star Trek movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like ''StarTrekV'', was [=~DarthWiki/So Bad It's Horrible~=]. This is followed by the excuse that ''[[Film/StarTrek XI]]'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]].

-->''"Sure as day follows night, sure as eggs is eggs, sure as every odd numbered Star Trek movie is shit."''
--> -- Tim Bisley, who is played by Simon Pegg, who [[HilariousInHindsight starred in the eleventh Star Trek movie]].

--> Star Trek Movie Rule #1: The even-numbered Star Trek movies are always better than the odd-numbered Star Trek movies.
--> Star Trek Movie Rule #2: If members of the cast sing in a Star Trek Movie, be afraid. Be very afraid.
--> Star Trek Movie Rule #3: If the Director of a Star Trek movie also stars in the movie, he'll give himself some really hammy and gratuitous scenes.
--> --[[http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews/StarTrekInsurrection.html Michael Demtschyna, Michael D's Region 4 DVD Info Page]]

In a nutshell, the ''Trek'' feature films have followed a peculiar pattern: even-numbered ''Star Trek'' films have always done extremely well at the box office (with the exception of StarTrekNemesis). Odd-numbered films, on the other hand, have either failed miserably or still succeeded, but had a few glaring flaws that kept it from that coveted 'top spot'.

So far, the only films that seem to break the Curse are 2002's StarTrekNemesis, the tenth film (which, if the curse is to be believed, shouldn't have sucked) and 2009's ''Film/StarTrek'', the eleventh (which, according to the Curse, ''should'' have been a stinker), but it remains to be seen if the Curse is broken, or simply inverted.

Two commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality" are using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including GalaxyQuest as a Star Trek movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''). Another theory states that Nemesis wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and like StarTrekV, was [[SoBadItsHorrible So Bad It's Horrible]]. This is followed by the excuse that StarTrekXI doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of [[HandWave time-traveling Romulans]].