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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
** In-universe in an episode of the anime where, after several incredibly dumb attempts to steal Pokémon, the Team Rocket trio actually tries something that might work. James wonders why they didn't start out with this plan, and Jessie replies that they needed to fill an episode.

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** ''Anime/PokemonTheOriginalSeries'': In-universe in an episode of the anime where, after several incredibly dumb attempts to steal Pokémon, the Team Rocket trio actually tries something that might work. James wonders why they didn't start out with this plan, and Jessie replies that they needed to fill an episode.



** By that proxy, the acts of The Strongest Mega Evolution are often criticized for their pacing problems on their special format.

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** By that proxy, the acts of [[Anime/PokemonTheSeriesXY The Strongest Mega Evolution Evolution]] are often criticized for their pacing problems on their special format.
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* The closed caption version applies for ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible A Sitch in Time'' but in a different way. When watching the movie normally, there's probably no suspicion when Ron's mother mentions her boss, but if you watch it with the closed captioning, it shows said boss's name is Ms. [[spoiler: Ogehs]] thereby spoiling TheReveal that [[spoiler: the whole thing was a BatmanGambit from a FutureBadass version of Shego]].

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* In ''Manga/AsteroidInLove'', Episode 8 of the anime(adapted from Chapter 27 of the manga), which takes place on New Year's Day, has Mira learn that Ao will have to move out as a result of her father getting a transfer, something that will happen during Spring Break in March. One would think that [[MovingAngst this sort of thing]] would happen at the end of the series, whether as a climactic problem or the cause of a BittersweetEnding, but there are four episodes to go in the anime. Mira and Ao manage to get Ao to stay with Mira's family near the start of the next episode.

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* In ''Manga/AsteroidInLove'', Episode 8 of the anime(adapted from Chapter 27 of the manga), which takes place on New Year's Day, has Mira learn that Ao will have to move out as a result of her father getting a transfer, something that will happen during Spring Break in March. One would think that [[MovingAngst this sort of thing]] would happen at the end of the series, whether as a climactic climatic problem or the cause of a BittersweetEnding, but there are four episodes to go in the anime. Mira and Ao manage to get Ao to stay with Mira's family near the start of the next episode.



* One of the first episodes of ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' featured the gang stuck in a ship that was stuck halfway in a Stargate. They attempted to rachet up the tension by reminding the viewers that the gate would automatically close after 38 minutes, severing the ship in half and killing them all. However, given that they were only a couple episodes into the first season, and there were no {{Red Shirt}}s on the ship, it was pretty obvious they were all going to make it out alive.

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* One of the first episodes of ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' featured the gang stuck in a ship that was stuck halfway in a Stargate. They attempted to rachet ratchet up the tension by reminding the viewers that the gate would automatically close after 38 minutes, severing the ship in half and killing them all. However, given that they were only a couple episodes into the first season, and there were no {{Red Shirt}}s on the ship, it was pretty obvious they were all going to make it out alive.


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** Subverted with the ECW December to Dismember PPV (2006). At the time PPVs would end after 2 hours and 45 minutes. When the winner of the last match won at the 2 hour and 15 minute mark, there was sufficient reason to believe that something would happen after. Except that it didn't, many fans demanded refunds, and there was never again an official ECW PPV.


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* ''VideoGame/QuestForGloryI'': when playing the EGA version on disks, hearing the disk drive go while in the forest let you know that you were about to have a monster encounter even if there were none on the screen yet.
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* ''Fanfic/PrincessCelestiaHuntsTheUndead'': Anyone glancing down the chapter list can guess the twist between chapters 11 and 12, in turn named ''Chrysalis actually wants peace" and "[[spoiler:I lied.]]"

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* ''Fanfic/PrincessCelestiaHuntsTheUndead'': ''Fanfic/PrincipalCelestiaHuntsTheUndead'': Anyone glancing down the chapter list can guess the twist between chapters 11 and 12, in turn named ''Chrysalis actually wants peace" and "[[spoiler:I lied.]]"
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* ''Fanfic/PrincessCelestiaHuntsTheUndead'': Anyone glancing down the chapter list can guess the twist between chapters 11 and 12, in turn named ''Chrysalis actually wants peace" and "[[spoiler:I lied.]]"
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* ''Fanfic/StarscreamAndTheDrones'' is only a few hundred words long, the description of its online upload mentions it being entered in a Funniest Fanfic Ever fanvote, and the IDoNotOwn disclaimer mentions that the author doesn't know who wrote the "original [[spoiler:Russian soldiers]] joke". From these context clues, it becomes fairly obvious that the fic is a {{Feghoot}} leading up to said joke, and the mention of what ''kind'' of joke is involved makes it easier to figure out the punchline ahead of time depending on the reader's familiarity with them.
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* ''Dramatis personae'' (list of characters) at the beginning of the play often serves as such. To give just one example, in ''The Creditors'' by Creator/AugustStrindberg the fact that Gustaf is none other than Tekla's ex-husband is revealed right in the ''dramatis personae'', while I universe reveal only takes place towards the end of the play.

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* ''Dramatis personae'' (list of characters) at the beginning of the play often serves as such. To give just one example, in ''The Creditors'' by Creator/AugustStrindberg the fact that Gustaf is none other than Tekla's ex-husband is revealed right in the ''dramatis personae'', while I universe reveal InternalReveal only takes place towards the end of the play.
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* ''Dramatis personae'' (list of characters) at the beginning of the play often serves as such. To give just one example, in ''The Creditors'' by Creator/AugustStrindberg the fact that Gustaf is none other than Tekla's ex-husband is revealed right in the ''dramatis personae'', while I universe reveal only takes place towards the end of the play.
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** If you know the history of the movie, this becomes a [[SubvertedTrope subversion.]] The part where the ScoobyDooHoax was revealed really was supposed to be the end of the movie, then the creators decided that wasn't good enough and is the reason the rest of the movie happens.
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* ''Literature/TheLockedTomb'': TheReveal in ''Harrow the Ninth'' that the SecondPersonNarration is actually ''first'' person narration from another character works very well in the print and ebook releases. The audiobook release doesn't work as well once you realize Moira Quirk uses the character's voice for the narration. It's especially obvious for listeners who went straight from ''Gideon the Ninth'' to ''Harrow the Ninth'' and didn't have time in between to forget how their voice sounded.
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* ''VideoGame/BugFables'': Chapter 5 is presented as the game's final confrontation, where the party goes over to the Wasp Kingdom and directly fights [[BigBad the Wasp King]] in his own castle. Players who had observed the map and/or the telescope view of Bugaria would notice that there is a suspicious foggy gray area that they cannot reach by this point and seems large and important, and that there is a fourth kingdom that was yet to be introduced. It is possible to backtrack after getting an ability and entering the former area, the Forsaken Lands, before getting stopped by an uncrossable gap. It is revealed that the Wasp King was planning a trap, leading to two more chapters of the game to go through, the first of which covers the Foresaken Lands and the Termite Kingdom.
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That's just the name of the song


* Chuck from ''Website/SFDebris'' in the recap of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "Duet" notes that the villain has been caught and the ending monologue has been said "huh? Much quicker than usual." (Which also appears to be a reference to ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Who Needs The Kwik-E-Mart?", as described in the WesternAnimation folder below).

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* Chuck from ''Website/SFDebris'' in the recap of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "Duet" notes that the villain has been caught and the ending monologue has been said "huh? Much quicker than usual." (Which also appears to be a reference to ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Who Needs The Kwik-E-Mart?", as described in the WesternAnimation folder below)."Homer and Apu.")



** Lampshaded with "Who Needs The Kwik-E-Mart?"

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** Lampshaded with "Who Needs The Kwik-E-Mart?"in "Homer and Apu."
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* ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}} has first contact procedures that initially hide information about a species when the player finds them. But if you find an alien empire's homeworld before completing first contact procedure, you can see in the population tab not only what they look like, but also what ethics they follow, which is often enough to deduce their personality.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}} ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'' has first contact procedures that initially hide information about a species when the player finds them. But if you find an alien empire's homeworld before completing first contact procedure, you can see in the population tab not only what they look like, but also what ethics they follow, which is often enough to deduce their personality.
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* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'': New Testament Volume 10 is a BossRush in novel form, and the titles of each chapter make it fairly obvious what enemy will be fought in them (as well as the total number of battles). Needless to say, the format also spoils that Touma and Othinus will get through each encounter, though not necessarily by winning a straight fight. It's subverted in the final chapter, which is titled "V.S. “???” — Round_12(Secret)" to hide the fact that Othinus is the final opponent.

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* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'': ''Literature/ACertainMagicalIndex'': New Testament Volume 10 is a BossRush in novel form, and the titles of each chapter make it fairly obvious what enemy will be fought in them (as well as the total number of battles). Needless to say, the format also spoils that Touma and Othinus will get through each encounter, though not necessarily by winning a straight fight. It's subverted in the final chapter, which is titled "V.S. “???” — Round_12(Secret)" to hide the fact that Othinus is the final opponent.
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* ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'': Besides Bella's [[TooDumbToLive not-suicide cliff diving]] in ''New Moon'' (as evidenced below), there's also her birthing of Renesmee in ''Breaking Dawn''. All of the tension as to whether or not she'll live falls rather flat when one considers that it happens at the end of part two, there's a buttload of pages left for part three, and that section is told from her point of view.

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* ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'': ''Literature/TheTwilightSaga'': Besides Bella's [[TooDumbToLive not-suicide cliff diving]] in ''New Moon'' ''Literature/NewMoon'' (as evidenced below), there's also her birthing of Renesmee in ''Breaking Dawn''.''Literature/BreakingDawn''. All of the tension as to whether or not she'll live falls rather flat when one considers that it happens at the end of part two, there's a buttload of pages left for part three, and that section is told from her point of view.
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* [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in ''Literature/{{Room}}''. Most readers will probably guess that Jack and Ma's grand plan to escape Room will fail, seeing how it occurs halfway through the book. But then it actually succeeds, and then the second half of the book becomes about [[HalfwayPlotSwitch adjusting to life after the escape]].
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There are too many subversions on both ends, most famously TAR 25 which pulled a To Be Continued in its penultimate episode.


*** The opposite is true with the first episode, which always ends with an elimination, and the next-to-last episode, which will end with an elimination unless the finale is a double episode with the 4th place team getting eliminated halfway through.
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* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndTheWitchsGhost'': Looks like the usual ScoobyDooHoax has been wrapped up -- the townsfolk were faking the ghost sightings to boost tourism. Guess it's time for the gang to relax and...there's 25 minutes left in the film. [[spoiler:And the [[ObviousJudas character voiced by Tim Curry]] hasn't done anything evil yet...]]
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* ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}} has first contact procedures that initially hide information about a species when the player finds them. But if you find an alien empire's homeworld before completing first contact procedure, you can see in the population tab not only what they look like, but also what ethics they follow, which is often enough to deduce their personality.
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* ''Fanfic/CNAkumas'': At the end of "Count Widow", there's some tension regarding the class trip coming to an end, whether Hawk Moth will stay in Townsville afterwards, and whether Ladybug will have to give up her earrings in the interim so he can still be stopped while she's not there. Problem is, the author planned out and posted art of every akuma ahead of time -- and Count Widow was number six out of ''twenty-six''. As such, it's pretty obvious that some sort of accident is gonna keep the ''Miraculous Ladybug'' characters stuck in Townsville for a while (in this case, the airport getting quarantined after a KND mission gone wrong).
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* Most countdowns on various websites (such as Creator/ScreenRant and CBR) are guaranteed to have their number 1 entry on their respective thumbnails.

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* Website/TVTropes: It's considered an IdiotBall by some to go reading a tropes page for a work ''before'' seeing/reading/etc the work, and expecting not to be spoiled. On another level, [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler even the spoiler tags can still spoil]], because for example:

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* Website/TVTropes: It's considered [[IdiotBall an IdiotBall act of idiocy]] by some to go reading read a tropes page for a work ''before'' seeing/reading/etc seeing/reading/etc. the work, and expecting not to be spoiled. On another level, [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler even the spoiler tags can still spoil]], because for example:



** If the gender is constantly hidden by spoilers, especially if the male-to-female ratio isn't equal (or worse yet, there's only one character of a particular gender), it can be pretty easy to guess who the spoiler tags are trying to hide. Not to mention it's also very easy to tell the difference between he and she. Relatedly, if a character is referred to as one gender in the story, but an entry about them spoilers their gender, that spoils the reveal of [[SamusIsAGirl one]] or [[GenderBender two]] tropes.
** If a character has a very long or very short name compared to the rest of the cast, spoilering the name can end up being pointless. If the entry is about ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and you use spoiler tags to hide the fact that Q appears in an episode, a reader who knows the series will easily guess who you're talking about.
** Before the 1.8 redesign, any WikiWord or {{Pothole}} hidden by spoiler markup could still be moused over, which would reveal the URL of the page being linked to. This could spoil it for any reader who accidentally left the cursor over the spoiler tag such as in cases where it was AllJustADream.

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** If the gender is constantly hidden by spoilers, especially if the male-to-female ratio isn't equal (or worse yet, there's only one character of a particular gender), it can be pretty easy to guess who the spoiler tags are trying to hide. Not to mention it's It's also very easy to tell the difference between he and she. Relatedly, Additionally, if a character is referred to as one gender in the story, but an entry about them spoilers their gender, that spoils the reveal of [[SamusIsAGirl one]] or [[GenderBender two]] tropes.
** If a character has a very an unusually long or very short name compared to the rest of the cast, [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler spoilering the name can end up being pointless.pointless]]. If the entry is about ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and you use spoiler tags to hide the fact that Q appears in an episode, a reader who knows the series will easily guess who you're talking about.
** Before the 1.8 redesign, any WikiWord Administrivia/WikiWord or {{Pothole}} hidden by spoiler markup could still be moused over, which would reveal the URL of the page being linked to. This could spoil it for any reader who accidentally left the cursor over the spoiler tag such as in cases where it was AllJustADream.



* Lampshaded in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA3WogFaeFQ one video by]] WebVideo/StuartAshen, on the subject of the fastest game-overs in video game history:
-->"''(On ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry1InTheLandOfTheLoungeLizards'')'' 1.6 seconds! We've managed to beat the current champion ''Series/GrangeHill''. Can we do better? Of course we can, there's still a fair bit of video time remaining!"
** Made more funny in that his first video on the quickest game overs ended with about the same amount of the time as when ''Leisure Suit Larry 1'' beat ''Grange Hill''[='=]s record, so time is padded out with footage of the drug dealer HaveANiceDeath scene without any reference to the time remaining in the video.
-->"[[WhatTheHellPlayer Oh, Gonch. Gonch!]] You're never going to get an acting job in ''Series/{{Eastenders}}'' now."

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* Lampshaded in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA3WogFaeFQ one a video by]] WebVideo/StuartAshen, WebVideo/StuartAshen on the subject of the fastest game-overs in video game history:
-->"''(On ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry1InTheLandOfTheLoungeLizards'')''
history. When he mentions that it's possible to get a game over in ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry1InTheLandOfTheLoungeLizards'' in 1.6 seconds! We've managed seconds, he asks if it's possible to beat the current champion ''Series/GrangeHill''. Can we do better? Of get one faster than that before saying "Of course we can, there's still a fair bit of video time remaining!"
** Made more funny in that his first video on the quickest game overs ended with about the same amount of the time as when ''Leisure Suit Larry 1'' beat ''Grange Hill''[='=]s record, so time is padded out with footage of the drug dealer HaveANiceDeath scene without any reference to the time remaining in the video.
-->"[[WhatTheHellPlayer Oh, Gonch. Gonch!]] You're never going to get an acting job in ''Series/{{Eastenders}}'' now."
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* ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'' this one might take a bit of thinking to get, but in one of Leon Kuwata's free time conversations, he makes mention of [[https://youtu.be/oF9NLoOgNTQ?t=456 Sayaka]]. The reason why this is a spoiler is because [[spoiler:Sayaka is the victim in the first case.]] This would mean that [[spoiler:if it was possible to talk to Leon during the second chapter, this line of dialogue would make no sense,]] and as such, it would only make sense for any player reading this line of dialogue to conclude that [[spoiler:Leon must be the killer.]]
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* A few trailers and promos of ''WesternAnimation/TrollsWorldTour'' basically hinted at Barb's HeelFaceTurn, especially when some commercials showed her on good terms with Poppy and the others.
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* ''Film/HalloweenKills'' has "Evil dies tonight" as its ArcWords, referring to killing the BigBad Michael Myers and ending his murder spree. Before the movie was even released, a sequel was confirmed to be in the works. Considering how this is a VillainBasedFranchise, [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt very few people ever considered Myers' death in this movie to be a possibility]].
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Jumanji}}'', several times. If the kids return to the real world (especially with Alan), especially if they solve the clue early, and there's more than a minute or two left, expect things to go to hell very quickly.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Jumanji}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Jumanji|The Animated Series}}'', several times. If the kids return to the real world (especially with Alan), especially if they solve the clue early, and there's more than a minute or two left, expect things to go to hell very quickly.
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* In general, if you enter a shop in an RPG and you find a weapon that your current party can't use, it either means you still have a new party member coming, you're getting a new class that will unlock said weapon, or certain events provide you the opportunity to wield it.


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* Heading into the DiscOneFinalDungeon to confront Exdeath in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' with much of your magic menu still missing a bunch of spells will likely clue you in that there's still a considerable chunk of the game to play afterwards.
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** If the episode is less than 30-ish minutes in, whatever lead the investigation is currently following is probably going to be a dead end, or at best will be only part of the puzzle.
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* In general, completed {{Lets Play}}s that have a {{Permadeath}} gimmick (such as [[FinalDeathMode Hardcore]] runs of ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' or [[SelfImposedChallenge Nuzlocke]] runs of ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'') can fall victim to this. If you're familiar with the game and see that the final episode is at a point far from the game's end, it's a fair bet that [[KillEmAll things don't go well for the player]].

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* In general, completed {{Lets Play}}s that have a {{Permadeath}} gimmick (such as [[FinalDeathMode Hardcore]] runs of ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' or [[SelfImposedChallenge Nuzlocke]] runs of ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'') can fall victim to this. If you're familiar with the game and see that the final episode is at a point far from the game's end, it's a fair bet that [[KillEmAll things don't go well for the player]].player.
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* ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles3'': Hero Quests are always fully voice acted. So if you run into a quest marker and the characters start speaking audible lines, the quest is going to end with someone joining the party. This is particularly notable with the Machine Assassin quest, which tries ''very hard'' to pretend it isn't a Hero Quest at first, even giving you a fake normal quest that's completed after the initial battle and replaced with the true quest, but the voice acting still gives it away.

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