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* Various child abuse scandals, especially those with supposed Satanic cult connections and multiple alleged perpetrators, result from this: one suspicions parent, teacher, or social worker questions a child (who may or may not be an actual abuse victim) and soon worried parents are questioning their kids and the number of "victims" and "abusers" starts expanding dramatically.
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* In [[VorkosiganSaga The Warrior's Apprentice]]'', to help a pilot with some financial troubles Miles Vorkosigan starts a SnowballLie by pretending to be his benefactor. A few months later, Miles is several dozen light-years away, the pilot's spaceship is damaged beyond repair, Miles is an admiral commanding nineteen starships and three thousand space mercenaries, and his government has issued him an arrest warrant for high treason. This happens fairly often with the plans Miles comes up with.
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* ''The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion'', a fraudulent anti-Semitic manifesto about a worldwide Jewish conspiracy. It was first used to scapegoat Jews for the monarchists' defeat in the Russo-Japanese war and the Russian Revolution, was infamously used by AdolfHitler according to some historians as his justification for his campaign of genocide during WorldWarII, and is still believed to be real by many people even today.
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* ''The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion'', a fraudulent anti-Semitic manifesto about [[ConspiracyTheory a worldwide Jewish conspiracy.conspiracy]]. It was first used to scapegoat Jews for the monarchists' defeat in the Russo-Japanese war and the Russian Revolution, was infamously used by AdolfHitler according to some historians as his justification for his campaign of genocide during WorldWarII, and is still believed to be real by many people even today.
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* ''THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION'', a manifesto about a worldwide Jewish conspiracy. Many people even today believe its contents.
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** Orwell used it again in AnimalFarm, where the ruling class of the titular farm were pigs. One, Napoleon, had his followers turn on his rival. He then proceeded to sell blatantly false and ever-expanding stories of his rival's duplicity and treachery in order to secure more and more power for himself and his cronies. His rival? Snowball. Any similarities to real persons in certain socialist revolutions is entirely intentional.
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** Orwell used it again in AnimalFarm, where the ruling class of the titular farm were pigs. One, Napoleon, had his followers turn on his rival. He then proceeded to sell blatantly false and ever-expanding stories of his rival's duplicity and treachery in order to secure more and more power for himself and his cronies. His rival? Snowball. Any similarities to real persons in certain [[RussianRevolution socialist revolutions revolutions]] is entirely intentional.
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* In ''Ghostbusters'' Walter Peck accuses The Ghost busters of using hazardous wastes, later on he claims them to be snowball artists. Ironically he himself is a Snowball liar even blaming them for the explosion he caused at their headquarters.
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* This is a regular feature of AsTimeGoesBy, particularly in any episode where Jean is trying to avoid becoming the target of her officious and patronising sister-in-law's pity (or intervene in Judith, Sandy and/or Alistair's love lives...). Lionel invariably protests and tries to avoid participation, but if it's a Penny (sister-in-law) LiesSnowball, he will never quite manage to get free of it.
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* Thanks to the {{Clap Your Hands If You Believe}} nature of the universe in ''[[PlanescapeTorment Planescape: Torment]],'' a snowball lie can cause quite a lot of unintended consequences, up to and including creating a ''[[TheErnest entirely new person]]'' out of an alias the Nameless One uses.
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* {{Death Note}} The entire series is based on Light Yagami's elaborate, psychopathic plots to trick police and detective forces that he is NOT a serial killer... untill [[spoiler: it all blows up in his face, his cover is blown, and he dies.]]
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* Rather a nasty example in ''Gossip,'' a guy sees a girl pass out at party when alone with her boyfriend. The boyfriend leaves her to sleep. But the guy suggests to his friends that they should spread the rumor that the boyfriend had sex with her while she was unconscious, to see how far the rumor goes. The rumor goes far enough that she has the boyfriend arrested for rape. Viewers might wonder if the girl couldn't tell the difference, turns out she could, and the guy starting the rumor was in fact covering up his rape.
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* Rather a nasty example in ''Gossip,'' a guy sees a girl pass out at party when alone with her boyfriend. The boyfriend leaves her to sleep. But the guy suggests to his friends that they should spread the rumor that the boyfriend had sex with her while she was unconscious, to see how far the rumor goes. The rumor goes far enough that she has the boyfriend arrested for rape. Viewers might wonder if the girl couldn't tell the difference, turns out she could, and the guy starting the rumor was in fact [[spoiler: covering up his rape.rape. She was also extremely sensitive to the whole plan because she had been date-raped before, by the guy who started the rumor and raped her again.]]
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* Dianetics was quite possibly the most successful snake oil in the history of the world, blossoming into a full blown religion so fanatical that it engaged in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_snow_white the largest and most successful infiltration of the U.S. government in history]], all to protect the lie.
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** Technically, he blames their faulty equipment. That's like saying "The reason that the house burned down is because the sprinkler system didn't work!" after you went and shut off the main water valve. He true and firmly believed that the Ghostbusters were con artists, and the fact that all their work dried up between the movies (since they wiped out the thing that was riling all the ghosts up) got everyone else to believe it too... Despite the ''gigantic marshmallow man that had been stomping around downtown.''
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->A lie is a lie, unless everyone's in on it, then it's a commonly held belief!
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* A convicted child molester on ''BreakoutKings'' is revealed to be [[spoiler:a victim of this. Only one victim was actually assaulted, and the guilty party was her own father. She was forced into blaming her teacher. The other "victims" were kids caught up in the hysteria.]]
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* ''VeggieTales'' has "Larryboy and the Fib From Outer Space", in which Junior Asparagus tries to tell a lie to get himself out of trouble, but the lie gets crazier when those around him press for details.
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** Orwell used it again in AnimalFarm, where the ruling class of the titular farm were pigs. One, Napoleon, had his followers turn on his rival. He then proceeded to sell blatantly false and ever-expanding stories of his rival's duplicity and treachery in order to secure more and more power for himself and his cronies. His rival? Snowball. Any similarities to real persons in certain socialist revolutions is entirely intentional.
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** Not everyone. Catbert did not believe in Todd.
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* In ''Ghostbusters'' Walter Peck accuses The Ghost busters of using hazardous wastes, later on he claims them to be snowball artists. Ironically he himself is a Snowball liar even blaming them for the explosion he caused at their headquarters.
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* To avoid going to the school dance with Connie, {{Doug}} says that he has to take care of his fictional sick cousin Melvin. This has an immediate backfire (Connie ''immediately'' tells Doug's crush Patty about Melvin), but also turns into a SnowballLie when the girls show up to help Doug take care of "Melvin", Doug's sister Judy is asked to play the part, and Judy suddenly arbitrarily decides that "Melvin" has a miraculous recovery, ultimately resulting in ''"Melvin"'' being Patty's date to the dance. This lasts until a horse at the dance (ItMakesSenseInContext) eats Judy's wig.
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* [[VorkosiganSaga Miles Vorkosigan]]'s creation of the Dendarii Mercenaries in ''[[LoisMcMasterBujold The Warrior's Apprentice]]''. And almost everything else Miles ever tries.
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->'''Apu''': Is it just me or do all of your plans involve some horrible web of lies?
->'''Homer''': It's you.
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->'''Homer''': It's you.
-->''TheSimpsons'', ''The Two Mrs. Nahasapeemapetilons''
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* Miles Vorkosigan's creation of the Dendarii Mercenaries in ''[[LoisMcMasterBujold The Warrior's Apprentice]]''. And almost everything else Miles ever tries.
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* In ''ThePaladin'' by [[CJCherryh C.J. Cherryh]], MasterSwordsman Shoka allows some villagers to believe that his student [[spoiler:and lover]] Taizu is [[spoiler:a demon]]; the story quickly spreads and takes on a life of its own.
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* The claim that Abner Doubleday invented baseball in Cooperstown, New York in 1839. Doubleday, a military hero, never claimed to have invented baseball, and there's no evidence he'd ever even visited Cooperstown. In fact, the first printed reference to baseball in America [[OlderThanTheyThink was in 1791]]. In 1908, 15 years after Doubleday died, a commission whose open aim was to prove that baseball was strictly American in origin announced their findings that Doubleday was the inventor. This claim was based the testimony of just one person, an elderly mentally ill man, who would have have been a young boy in 1839. The report was forgotten until the 1930s. Then Major League Baseball kicked of a massive campaign to celebrate the supposed centennial of baseball in 1939, culminating in the opening of the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown.
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* An episode of ''BigBangTheory'' did this. A later episode subverts it. Sheldon, hiding from his [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend girl/friend]], asks Leonard to lie about where he is, with increasing specifications for the amount of detail needed to make the lie convincing. Leonard circumvents the entire plot with, "Sheldon isn't here", which was all the detail needed.
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** In a similar fashion, the so called "Gävle Boy", Johan Johansson Grijs, who was one of the most infamous children involved in the Swedish witch trials. After he had accused his own mother of witchcraft and gotten her executed in his hometown Gävle, he was sent to relatives in Stockholm, where he continued to accuse people and got other children to do the same. This went on for quite some time, until someone realised that he knew a bit too much about witchcraft for being a victim, and he himself was sentenced to death. He panicked and confessed to lying, but was executed for that instead.
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* Just about every series on Disney Channel in the last five years has had at least one episode that revolves around this.
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* The AlPacino film ''S1m0ne'' and the WhoopiGoldberg film ''The Associate'' are both about fake people invented by the protagonists.
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