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** Marcus Aurelius was co-emperor with his adoptive brother Lucius Verus until the latter died of either food poisoning or smallpox. He'd later appoint his son Commodus as a new co-emperor three years before his death.
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** Marcus Aurelius UsefulNotes/MarcusAurelius was co-emperor with his adoptive brother Lucius Verus until the latter died of either food poisoning or smallpox. He'd later appoint his son Commodus as a new co-emperor three years before his death.
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This can also help to diffuse potential {{Succession Cris|is}}es. Under normal succession, a younger sibling would inherit only after their elder's children and grandchildren. This can, and often does, lead to hostility and disputes from younger brothers or sisters who know that they will never hold power as long as their sibling's progeny is in the way -- the EvilUncle who schemes against his royal brother's sons is a narrative mainstay for this reason. Arrangements of this sort, with power distributed amongst different siblings, help to avoid such unpleasantness, although they can produce their own complications when deciding how to distribute power in the next generation among all of the rulers' own children.
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* Art/MediciChapels: Lorenzo and Giuliano were this in real life, which their portraits reflect. The "New Sacristy", where their tombs are located, lavishes them with an equal measure of detail, befitting of their status. Both brothers wear regal capes and have their tombs ornamented by paired, matching, allegorical {{sculptures}}.
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* Art/MediciChapels: Lorenzo and Giuliano were this in real life, which their portraits reflect. The "New Sacristy", where their tombs are located, lavishes them with an equal measure of detail, befitting of their status. Both brothers wear regal capes and have their tombs ornamented by paired, matching, allegorical {{sculptures}}.
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': There are two in-universe historical figures named Gendel and Gorne who were brothers that shared the title of King-Beyond-the-Wall. Succession was not a concern because their people, the Free Folk, do not use inherited power and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership just follow the strongest warriors]]. They led a failed invasion into the North, only to be stopped by the King in the North and his son. It's known for certain that Gorne was killed in battle, but the Northmen and the Free Folk disagree on whether Gendel was killed as well, with the Free Folk believing he managed to escape.
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'':
** There are two in-universe historical figures named Gendel and Gorne who were brothers that shared the title of King-Beyond-the-Wall. Succession was not a concern because their people, the Free Folk, do not use inherited power and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership just follow the strongest warriors]]. They led a failed invasion into the North, only to be stopped by the King in the North and his son. It's known for certain that Gorne was killed in battle, but the Northmen and the Free Folk disagree on whether Gendel was killed as well, with the Free Folk believing he managed toescape.escape.
** Downplayed in the case of the Hands of the King. While Westeros uses a simple monarchy by default, there is a long tradition of kings naming close relatives to the position of Hand of the King, who serves both as a close advisor and who can exercise functionally all of the king's powers ''in absentia'' -- the Hand speaks with the king's voice, commands the king's armies, and drafts the king's laws, and many Hands can and have acted as the realm's actual ruler when the king was weak or away. The tradition began with the first King Aegon, who named his bastard half-brother Orys as the first Hand; later examples included King Aenys, who named his half-brother Maegor as Hand; and Aegon III, whose Hand was his brother Viserys. Other cases saw kings selecting their uncles, sons, or nephews to this position.
** There are two in-universe historical figures named Gendel and Gorne who were brothers that shared the title of King-Beyond-the-Wall. Succession was not a concern because their people, the Free Folk, do not use inherited power and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership just follow the strongest warriors]]. They led a failed invasion into the North, only to be stopped by the King in the North and his son. It's known for certain that Gorne was killed in battle, but the Northmen and the Free Folk disagree on whether Gendel was killed as well, with the Free Folk believing he managed to
** Downplayed in the case of the Hands of the King. While Westeros uses a simple monarchy by default, there is a long tradition of kings naming close relatives to the position of Hand of the King, who serves both as a close advisor and who can exercise functionally all of the king's powers ''in absentia'' -- the Hand speaks with the king's voice, commands the king's armies, and drafts the king's laws, and many Hands can and have acted as the realm's actual ruler when the king was weak or away. The tradition began with the first King Aegon, who named his bastard half-brother Orys as the first Hand; later examples included King Aenys, who named his half-brother Maegor as Hand; and Aegon III, whose Hand was his brother Viserys. Other cases saw kings selecting their uncles, sons, or nephews to this position.
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* ''Series/Foundation2021'' is a sci-fi variant, the Empire is ruled by three clones of Emperor Cleon I, referred to as Brother Dawn, Brother Day, and Brother Dusk in ascending order of age. With a new Brother Dawn decanted when Brother Dusk dies. Though while they usually refer to one another as "brothers" Cleon XIII confesses that he thinks of Cleon XIV as more of a son.
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* ''Series/Foundation2021'' is a sci-fi variant, variant: the Empire is ruled by three clones of Emperor Cleon I, referred to as Brother Dawn, Brother Day, and Brother Dusk in ascending order of age. With a A new Brother Dawn is decanted when the current Brother Dusk dies. Though while they They usually refer to one another as "brothers" "brothers", but Cleon XIII confesses that he thinks of Cleon XIV as more of a son.son due to their significant age gap.
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* In ''ComicBooks/{{Castelmaure}}'', of the four surviving children of the king, the conjoined twins are the ones who eventually rule over the kingdom.
* In ''Comicbook/WonderWoman,'' the title character's mother, Hippolyta, originally co-ruled the Amazons with her sister, Antiope. The latter eventually left with her own band of followers, who became the Bana-Mighdall.
* In ''ComicBooks/{{Castelmaure}}'', of the four surviving children of the king, the conjoined twins are the ones who eventually rule over the kingdom.
* In ''Comicbook/WonderWoman,'' the title character's mother, Hippolyta, originally co-ruled the Amazons with her sister, Antiope. The latter eventually left with her own band of followers, who became the Bana-Mighdall.
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* ''Fanfic/CodexEquus'':
** The sisters Blue Diadem, Yellow Barding, White Corona, and Rose Regalia co-founded the Coronan Imperium in their mother's name, and ruled it together as the Radiant Tetrarchy.
** Blanche Amour and Cramoisie , fraternal twin sisters, are the founders, and co-rulers of {{the Necrocracy}} of Royaumort. Blanche Amour rules over the Death cults, while Cramoisie rules over the vampires of the Court of Blood.
* ''Fanfic/JoJoNewUniverse'': While Zanac is in place to be the sole king of Re-Estize, in practice he intends to share the actual ruling of the kingdom with his two sisters.
* ''Fanfic/QueensOfMewniSpinoffs'': Post-retcon, Heliador's sister Eureka survived infancy but was a very sick child. Seeing this and also not wanting either of her children to suffer, Astra decided to give both of them the wand and crown. No succession crisis occurred, as the two decided that, whomever had kids first, that child gets the throne, which in this case was Heliador's daughter Oneira.
* ''Fanfic/SignverseAU'': [[spoiler: Andromeda and Orion both get wands on their 14th birthday, and both will inherit the throne when they're older.]]
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* ''Fanfic/CodexEquus'':
** The sisters Blue Diadem, Yellow Barding, White Corona, and Rose Regalia co-founded the Coronan Imperium in their mother's name, and ruled it together as the Radiant Tetrarchy.
** Blanche Amour and Cramoisie , fraternal twin sisters, are the founders, and co-rulers of {{the Necrocracy}} of Royaumort. Blanche Amour rules over the Death cults, while Cramoisie rules over the vampires of the Court of Blood.
* ''Fanfic/JoJoNewUniverse'': While Zanac is in place to be the sole king of Re-Estize, in practice he intends to share the actual ruling of the kingdom with his two sisters.
* ''Fanfic/QueensOfMewniSpinoffs'': Post-retcon, Heliador's sister Eureka survived infancy but was a very sick child. Seeing this and also not wanting either of her children to suffer, Astra decided to give both of them the wand and crown. No succession crisis occurred, as the two decided that, whomever had kids first, that child gets the throne, which in this case was Heliador's daughter Oneira.
* ''Fanfic/SignverseAU'': [[spoiler: Andromeda and Orion both get wands on their 14th birthday, and both will inherit the throne when they're older.]]
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* In ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', the 4 Pevensie siblings are crowned Kings and Queens of Narnia at the end of ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe''. We briefly get to see them working together in this capacity in ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy''. First-born Peter gets the title of "High King." Lampshaded in the film adaptation of ''Literature/PrinceCaspian'':
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* In ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', the 4 ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'': The four Pevensie siblings are crowned Kings and Queens of Narnia at the end of ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe''. We briefly get to see them working together in this capacity in ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy''. First-born The first-born Peter gets the title of "High King." King". Lampshaded in the film adaptation of ''Literature/PrinceCaspian'':
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* ''[[Literature/KushielsLegacy Kushiel's Dart]]'': The throne of the Dalriada people is held jointly by twins Eamonn and Grainne, which poses some difficulty for Phèdre's diplomatic mission as she has to get ''both'' of them to agree to help her and Eamonn is a lot more cautious than his sister.
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* ''[[Literature/KushielsLegacy Kushiel's Dart]]'': ''Literature/ChroniclesOfTheKencyrath'': The twins Essien and Essiar share the title of Lord Edirr. This is standard practice in their House, which runs strongly to twins. Their heirs are briefly introduced, and are another set of twin boys.
* ''Literature/EarthsChildren'': Amongst the Mamutoi, Camps are led by a headman and headwoman, who are traditionally a brother and sister. The siblings Talut and Tulie are the co-leaders of the Lion Camp, while Tulie's eldest son Tarneg and eldest daughter Deegie intend to start up a new camp with them as the leaders.
* ''Literature/TheJewelKingdom'': Siblings in the original, cousins in the reprint. While the king and queen are still in charge, they give the four principalities surrounding the capital to the four Jewel Princesses.
* ''Literature/KushielsLegacy'': In ''Kushiel's Dart'', the throne of the Dalriada people is held jointly by twins Eamonn and Grainne, which poses some difficulty for Phèdre's diplomatic mission as she has to get ''both'' of them to agree to help her and Eamonn is a lot more cautious than his sister.
* ''Literature/EarthsChildren'': Amongst the Mamutoi, Camps are led by a headman and headwoman, who are traditionally a brother and sister. The siblings Talut and Tulie are the co-leaders of the Lion Camp, while Tulie's eldest son Tarneg and eldest daughter Deegie intend to start up a new camp with them as the leaders.
* ''Literature/TheJewelKingdom'': Siblings in the original, cousins in the reprint. While the king and queen are still in charge, they give the four principalities surrounding the capital to the four Jewel Princesses.
* ''Literature/KushielsLegacy'': In ''Kushiel's Dart'', the throne of the Dalriada people is held jointly by twins Eamonn and Grainne, which poses some difficulty for Phèdre's diplomatic mission as she has to get ''both'' of them to agree to help her and Eamonn is a lot more cautious than his sister.
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': There are two in-universe historical figures named Gendel and Gorne who were brothers that shared the title of King-Beyond-the-Wall. Succession was not a concern because their people, the Free Folk, reject primogeniture and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership just follow the strongest warriors]]. They led a failed invasion into the North, only to be stopped by the King in the North and his son. It's known for certain that Gorne was killed in battle, but the Northmen and the Free Folk disagree on whether Gendel was killed as well, with the Free Folk believing he managed to escape.
* The first ''WesternAnimation/ATaleDarkAndGrimm'' book ends with Hansel and Gretel being crowned the new King and Queen of Grimm. Their mother quickly adds that they'll be marrying other people, just in case anyone was confused. {{Played With}} in the sequel, where the cousins Jack and Jill get the throne of Märchen.
* The first ''WesternAnimation/ATaleDarkAndGrimm'' book ends with Hansel and Gretel being crowned the new King and Queen of Grimm. Their mother quickly adds that they'll be marrying other people, just in case anyone was confused. {{Played With}} in the sequel, where the cousins Jack and Jill get the throne of Märchen.
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': There are two in-universe historical figures named Gendel and Gorne who were brothers that shared the title of King-Beyond-the-Wall. Succession was not a concern because their people, the Free Folk, reject primogeniture do not use inherited power and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership just follow the strongest warriors]]. They led a failed invasion into the North, only to be stopped by the King in the North and his son. It's known for certain that Gorne was killed in battle, but the Northmen and the Free Folk disagree on whether Gendel was killed as well, with the Free Folk believing he managed to escape.
* ''Literature/ATaleDarkAndGrimm'': The first''WesternAnimation/ATaleDarkAndGrimm'' book ends with Hansel and Gretel being crowned the new King and Queen of Grimm. Their mother quickly adds that they'll be marrying other people, just in case anyone was confused. {{Played With}} PlayedWith in the sequel, where the cousins Jack and Jill get the throne of Märchen.
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* In the Disney+ revival of ''Series/TheQuest'', this ends up being how the {{succession crisis}} is resolved between the three heirs of Sanctum. Princes Cederic and Emmett and princess Adaline were gifted to the king as infants by the Fates, so there is no clear order of succession. Each of them has their own strengths that would make them a good ruler, but also flaws that would make them less fit to handle certain situations than their siblings. By the end of the series, each sibling has had a chance to realize this, so the Divine Crown gets split into three parts, with rule of Sanctum being shared equally between them.
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* ''Series/TheQuest'': In the Disney+ revival of ''Series/TheQuest'', revival, this ends up being how the {{succession crisis}} is resolved between the three heirs of Sanctum. Princes Cederic and Emmett and princess Adaline were gifted to the king as infants by the Fates, so there is no clear order of succession. Each of them has their own strengths that would make them a good ruler, but also flaws that would make them less fit to handle certain situations than their siblings. By the end of the series, each sibling has had a chance to realize this, so the Divine Crown gets split into three parts, with rule of Sanctum being shared equally between them.
* Myth/ArthurianLegend: The earliest version of Arthur [[KingInTheMountain being taken to Avalon]] has it ruled by nine [[FairyGodmother benevolent fairy]] sisters, with Morgan le Fay being the most prominent. This was before she was reworked into Arthur's [[AdaptationalVillainy evil]] [[AdaptationalSpeciesChange human]] [[RelatedInTheAdaptation sister]].
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* Art/MediciChapels: Lorenzo and Giuliano were this in real life, which their portraits reflect. The "New Sacristy", where their tombs are located, lavishes them with an equal measure of detail, befitting of their status. Both brothers wear regal capes and have their tombs ornamented by paired, matching, allegorical {{sculptures}}.
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* Art/MediciChapels: Lorenzo and Giuliano were this in real life, which their portraits reflect. The "New Sacristy", where their tombs are located, lavishes them with an equal measure of detail, befitting of their status. Both brothers wear regal capes and have their tombs ornamented by paired, matching, allegorical {{sculptures}}.
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* In ''Comicbook/WonderWoman,'' the title character's mother, Hippolyta, originally co-ruled the Amazons with her sister, Antiope. The latter eventually left with her own band of followers, who became the Bana-Mighdall.
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'''Edmund''': It's "King Edmund", actually. Just King though, Peter's the High King. Yeah, I know, it's confusing.
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* ArthurianLegend: The earliest version of Arthur [[KingInTheMountain being taken to Avalon]] has it ruled by nine [[FairyGodmother benevolent fairy]] sisters, with Morgan le Fay being the most prominent. This was before she was reworked into Arthur's [[AdaptationalVillainy evil]] [[AdaptationalSpeciesChange human]] [[RelatedInTheAdaptation sister]].
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* ArthurianLegend: Myth/ArthurianLegend: The earliest version of Arthur [[KingInTheMountain being taken to Avalon]] has it ruled by nine [[FairyGodmother benevolent fairy]] sisters, with Morgan le Fay being the most prominent. This was before she was reworked into Arthur's [[AdaptationalVillainy evil]] [[AdaptationalSpeciesChange human]] [[RelatedInTheAdaptation sister]].
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* ArthurianLegend: The earliest version of Arthur [[KingInTheMountain being taken to Avalon]] has it ruled by nine [[FairyGodmother benevolent fairy]] sisters, with Morgan le Fay being the most prominent. This was before she was reworked into Arthur's [[AdaptationalVillainy evil]] [[AdaptationalSpeciesChange human]] [[RelatedInTheAdaptation sister]].
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* The first ''WesternAnimation/ATaleDarkAndGrimm'' book ends with Hansel and Gretel being crowned the new King and Queen of Grimm. Their mother quickly adds that they'll be marrying other people, just in case anyone was confused.
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* The first ''WesternAnimation/ATaleDarkAndGrimm'' book ends with Hansel and Gretel being crowned the new King and Queen of Grimm. Their mother quickly adds that they'll be marrying other people, just in case anyone was confused. {{Played With}} in the sequel, where the cousins Jack and Jill get the throne of Märchen.
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* ''Series/Foundation2021'' is a sci-fi variant, the Empire is ruled by three clones of Emperor Cleon I, referred to as Brother Dawn, Brother Day, and Brother Dusk in ascending order of age. With a new Brother Dawn decanted when Brother Dusk dies. Though while they usually refer to one another as "brothers" Cleon XIII confesses that he thinks of Cleon XIV as more of a son.
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** Theodosius I, the last ruler of the united empire, gave the Eastern half (aka the UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire) to his eldest son Arcadius and the West to his other son Honorius.
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** Theodosius I, UsefulNotes/TheodosiusI, the last ruler of the united empire, gave the Eastern half (aka the UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire) to his eldest son Arcadius and the West to his other son Honorius.
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-->--'''Shasta''' on King Edmund and Queen Susan, ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy''
Typically in fiction, royal families abide by the tradition of primogeniture -- the first-born son, barring a sudden, untimely death, gets to inherit the throne. In more progressive societies, a first-born daughter can get it, but her younger siblings are still out of luck. It's where the whole concept of "the heir and the spare" comes from -- you need many spares in case that sudden, untimely death happens, but only one child can be the heir.
Typically in fiction, royal families abide by the tradition of primogeniture -- the first-born son, barring a sudden, untimely death, gets to inherit the throne. In more progressive societies, a first-born daughter can get it, but her younger siblings are still out of luck. It's where the whole concept of "the heir and the spare" comes from -- you need many spares in case that sudden, untimely death happens, but only one child can be the heir.
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Typically in fiction, royal families abide by the tradition of primogeniture -- the first-born son, barring a sudden, untimely death, gets to inherit the throne. In more progressive societies, a first-born daughter can get it, but her younger siblings are still out of luck. It's where the whole concept of
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': There are two in-universe historical figures named Gendel and Gorne who were brothers that shared the title of King-Beyond-the-Wall. Succession was not a concern because their people, the Free Folk, reject primogeniture and [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority just follow the strongest warriors]]. They led a failed invasion into the North, only to be stopped by the King in the North and his son. It's known for certain that Gorne was killed in battle, but the Northmen and the Free Folk disagree on whether Gendel was killed as well, with the Free Folk believing he managed to escape.
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': There are two in-universe historical figures named Gendel and Gorne who were brothers that shared the title of King-Beyond-the-Wall. Succession was not a concern because their people, the Free Folk, reject primogeniture and [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership just follow the strongest warriors]]. They led a failed invasion into the North, only to be stopped by the King in the North and his son. It's known for certain that Gorne was killed in battle, but the Northmen and the Free Folk disagree on whether Gendel was killed as well, with the Free Folk believing he managed to escape.
