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* In the nightmarish, post-apocalyptic America of ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'', the most dangerous challenge to the titular [[DisasterDemocracy successor republic]] comes from Leader von Braun's [[PuttingOnTheReich Nazi-imitating]] faction in the Great Lakes region. The protagonists note that unlike the various other ravaging bands, hordes and would-be tyrants, but like themselves, his Party of the Will is building a real, functional state, and they are, for the most part, ruthlessly efficient and competent about it.

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* In the nightmarish, post-apocalyptic America of ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'', the most dangerous challenge to the titular [[DisasterDemocracy successor republic]] comes from Leader von Braun's [[PuttingOnTheReich Nazi-imitating]] faction in the Great Lakes region. The protagonists note that unlike the various other ravaging bands, hordes and would-be tyrants, but like themselves, his Party of the Will is building a real, functional state, and they are, for the most part, ruthlessly efficient and competent about it. If not for [[DecapitatedArmy their leadership getting taken out]] in a (borderline DeusExMachina) DeadlyGas attack, who knows if the Northern Confederation could endure a war with them.
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* Great Leader, the late ruler of the city ''VideoGame/{{Brigador}}'' takes place in, ran the city as a military dictatorship with repressive policies and an iron fist. He still enjoyed plenty of popular support, as the previous government had featured incredibly rampant starvation and crime that he was able to stop. The Loyalist faction wants to keep his government going after his death because they feel that the other factions lack the efficiency needed to protect the city.
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* ''Literature/WatershipDown'': Being a rabbit version of a military dictatorship, the Efrafan Warren offers it's basic denizens very little freedom, even scheduling when rabbits can go above ground to eat. The Owlslafa are constantly on the watch and acting out can get a bunny mutilated. But it does achieve its Leader Woundwort's original goal of keeping it's rabbits safe, and even the predators are said by Captain Campion to avoid the place rather than tangle with the fighters there.


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* ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'': Later in the series Superman finds his old enemies Mala and Jax-Ur have not only escaped the Phantom Zone, but have taken over a world. They claim they did it as repayment to the people for saving their lives, and even show Kal-El how efficient the planet now runs under their command. [[spoiler: It's all a scam, however, as the people despise the Kryptonians' despotic rule and Jax-Ur is using the planet's resources to build a Fleet of Conquest to take over Earth as well.]]
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* ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'': When Hydra conquers the US in the first issue, there's an immediate montage of all the "benefits" to the country that Hydra's leadership has brought, which includes increased employment, a surge in the stock markets, negotiate new trade deals, and a rise in standardized test scores. Never mind that none of these things even make sense given the short time frame or the fact that Hydra did things like shunting Manhattan into an alternate dimension and destroy Las Vegas (killing millions of people).

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* ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'': When Hydra conquers the US in the first issue, there's an immediate montage of all the "benefits" to the country that Hydra's leadership has brought, which includes increased employment, a surge in the stock markets, negotiate new trade deals, and a rise in standardized test scores. Never mind that none of these things even make sense given the short time frame or the fact that Hydra did things like shunting Manhattan into an alternate dimension and destroy destroying Las Vegas (killing millions of people).people). Creator/{{Linkara}}'s ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' review notes that the story buys into the the lie that fascists often tell: That it is strong.
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* Creator/BrandonSanderson likes to play with this trope, as part of his love of the MoralityKitchenSink. Tyranny is never preferable, but it can sometimes be a NecessaryEvil.
** In ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive,'' BigGood Dalinar is a control freak who has serious trouble remembering that he might not always know best about everything. However, he is genuinely a moral man and a skilled ruler in a world that otherwise runs on AristocratsAreEvil, meaning that frequently things are better for his taking charge. At one point he asks another character if he's a tyrant, and is told that [[BrutalHonesty yes, he is]] - but right here and now, a tyrant might be what the world needs.
** In ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'', the heroes spend the first book getting rid of EvilEmpire that rules their world, and the second book realising that they need to institute a ''new'' (albeit less evil) empire, because after a thousand years of tyranny their world isn't ready for constitutional monarchy right away.
** In ''Literature/{{Elantris}}'', Sarene is disappointed that "Lord Spirit" is apparently a tyrannical gang boss and not the idealistic community leader she had thought[[note]](he kind of is and he kind of isn't - it's complicated)[[/note]]. However, she can't entirely bring herself to think ill of him, musing that perhaps a tyrant is the only sort of leader a WretchedHive like Elantris is capable of having.
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* ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'': When Hydra conquers the US in the first issue, there's an immediate montage of all the "benefits" to the country that Hydra's leadership has brought, which includes increased employment, a surge in the stock markets, negotiate new trade deals, and a rise in standardized test scores. Never mind that none of these things even make sense given the short time frame or the fact that Hydra did things like shunting Manhattan into an alternate dimension and destroy Los Vegas (killing millions of people).

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* ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'': When Hydra conquers the US in the first issue, there's an immediate montage of all the "benefits" to the country that Hydra's leadership has brought, which includes increased employment, a surge in the stock markets, negotiate new trade deals, and a rise in standardized test scores. Never mind that none of these things even make sense given the short time frame or the fact that Hydra did things like shunting Manhattan into an alternate dimension and destroy Los Las Vegas (killing millions of people).
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* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': In the altered version of the ''Mobius: X Years Later'' timeline, Shadow [[TyrantTakesTheHelm marries Sally and takes over the kingdom]]. It's noted that while Shadow's regime was brutal, it still brought peace and stability to all of Mobius.

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* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'': In the altered version of the ''Mobius: X Years Later'' timeline, Shadow [[TyrantTakesTheHelm marries Sally and takes over the kingdom]]. It's noted that while Shadow's regime was brutal, it still brought peace and stability to all of Mobius.
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* ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'': When Hydra conquers the US in the first issue, there's an immediate montage of all the "benefits" to the country that Hydra's leadership has brought, which includes increased employment, a surge in the stock markets, negotiate new trade deals, and a rise in standardized test scores. Never mind that none of these things even make sense given the short time frame or the fact that Hydra did things like shunting Manhattan into an alternate dimension and destroy Los Vegas (killing millions of people).
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* The small Balkan nation of Latveria may be ruled by the iron fist of SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, but it IS prosperous. There is no crime, no poverty, no disease, and some stories imply nobody even needs to ''work'' (for anyone other than Doom, of course) as Doom has robot servants do everything. [[VetinariJobSecurity Latveria also tends to go to hell anytime Doom is removed from power]], and the Fantastic Four have even helped him return to his throne- even if they helped remove him in the first place- because they agree that he is a better ruler than his replacements.

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* The small Balkan nation of Latveria may be ruled by the iron fist of SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, ComicBook/DoctorDoom, but it IS prosperous. There is no crime, no poverty, no disease, and some stories imply nobody even needs to ''work'' (for anyone other than Doom, of course) as Doom has robot servants do everything. [[VetinariJobSecurity Latveria also tends to go to hell anytime Doom is removed from power]], and the Fantastic Four have even helped him return to his throne- even if they helped remove him in the first place- because they agree that he is a better ruler than his replacements.
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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': The Patriots are a shadow government that control America, and by the time of ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'', the entire planet, running the government and media behind the scenes and attempting to eliminate TheEvilsOfFreeWill. As oppressive and cruel as they can be, howeverm theystill run the world effectively and keep things stable, managing critical economic necessities such as water, electricity, communications and transportation. President Johnson and Colonel Campbell both state that without the Patriots, civilization as they know it would collapse entirely, and a big part of ''[=MGS4=]'' has Snake and his allies fighting to stop Liquid Ocelot from destroying them, viewing them as the LesserOfTwoEvils.

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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': The Patriots are a shadow government that control America, and by the time of ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'', the entire planet, running the government and media behind the scenes and attempting to eliminate TheEvilsOfFreeWill. As oppressive and cruel as they can be, howeverm theystill however, they still run the world effectively and keep things stable, managing critical economic necessities such as water, electricity, communications and transportation. President Johnson and Colonel Campbell both state that without the Patriots, civilization as they know it would collapse entirely, and a big part of ''[=MGS4=]'' has Snake and his allies fighting to stop Liquid Ocelot from destroying them, viewing them as the LesserOfTwoEvils.
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' has the Gem Homeworld being organized as having a strict caste-system that has all types of Gems assigned to a single purpose they must fulfill and never deviate from, and any Gem who comes out wrong or "Off-Colored" are rejected by society and usually shattered on-site. Despite this, the Gems that do fit within the system are shown to harbor great respect and admiration towards the Diamonds, the leaders of Gemkind, and believe them to be completely flawless beings.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' has the Gem Homeworld being organized as having a strict caste-system that has all types of Gems assigned to a single purpose they must fulfill and never deviate from, leading to a galactic empire that runs like a well-oiled machine and has succeeded in colonizing several galaxies. To achieve this, any Gem Gems who comes come out wrong or "Off-Colored" are rejected by Homeworld society and usually shattered on-site.on-site or banished underground. Despite this, the Gems that do fit within the system are shown to harbor great respect and admiration towards the Diamonds, the leaders of Gemkind, and believe them to be completely flawless beings.
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' has the Gem Homeworld being organized as having a strict caste-system that has all types of Gems assigned to a single purpose they must fulfill and never deviate from, and any Gem who comes out wrong or "Off-Colored" are rejected by society and usually shattered on-site. Despite this, the Gems that do fit within the system are shown to harbor great respect and admiration towards the Diamonds, the leaders of Gemkind, and believe them to be completely flawless beings.
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* In Season 2 of ''Machinima/FreemansMind'', Gordon concludes that City 17 is part of a fascist state because, among [[PoliceBrutality among other things]], the trains run on time to the point they don't even brake if someone's on the rails or gets run over.

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* In Season 2 of ''Machinima/FreemansMind'', Gordon concludes that City 17 is part of a fascist state because, among because [[PoliceBrutality among other things]], the trains run on time to the point they don't even brake if someone's on the rails or gets run over.
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* It's mentioned a couple times in ''Anime/DeathNote'' that Kira (a supernatural serial killer who kills criminals in order to try to create a better world) succeeds in dramatically reducing crime rates. An interesting example considering that it's only his method of killing that is supernatural; he relies on news reports to identify criminals, meaning that he kills mostly those that have already been apprehended by police. So it is ONLY the rampant use of the death penalty as a deterrent that achieves this effect, not any increase in efficiency of actually catching criminals. (Note that studies have shown that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent in RealLife; though, granted, what Kira does is not capital punishment but outright summary spree murder.) [[spoiler: Its noted that when he dies, the crime rate slowly starts to return to normal; still, better than being [[AllCrimesAreEqual murdered for laziness]], which is where his disciple Teru Mikami ultimately wanted to take things.]]

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* It's mentioned a couple times in ''Anime/DeathNote'' that Kira (a supernatural serial killer who kills criminals in order to try to create a better world) succeeds in dramatically reducing crime rates. An interesting example considering that it's only his method of killing that is supernatural; he relies on news reports to identify criminals, meaning that he kills mostly those that have already been apprehended by police. So it is ONLY the rampant use of the death penalty as a deterrent that achieves this effect, not any increase in efficiency of actually catching criminals. (Note that studies have shown that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent in RealLife; though, granted, what Kira does is not capital punishment but outright summary spree murder.) [[spoiler: Its It's noted that when he dies, the crime rate slowly starts to return to normal; still, better than being [[AllCrimesAreEqual murdered for laziness]], which is where his disciple Teru Mikami ultimately wanted to take things.]]
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-->'''Snake''': No matter who wins, the world has no future. Until we stop Liquid and destroy the System, we'll never be free.//
'''Campbell''': Snake, what we call "peace" is an equilibrium kept in check by the war economy. Destroying the System means wiping out the information society, the end of modern civilization. Like it or not, we may have no choice but to protract the System.
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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': The Patriots are a shadow government that control America, and by the time of ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'', the entire planet, running the government and media behind the scenes and attempting to eliminate TheEvilsOfFreeWill. As oppressive and cruel as they can be, howeverm theystill run the world effectively and keep things stable, managing critical economic necessities such as water, electricity, communications and transportation. President Johnson and Colonel Campbell both state that without the Patriots, civilization as they know it would collapse entirely, and a big part of ''[=MGS4=]'' has Snake and his allies fighting to stop Liquid Ocelot from destroying them, viewing them as the LesserOfTwoEvils.
-->'''Snake''': No matter who wins, the world has no future. Until we stop Liquid and destroy the System, we'll never be free.//
'''Campbell''': Snake, what we call "peace" is an equilibrium kept in check by the war economy. Destroying the System means wiping out the information society, the end of modern civilization. Like it or not, we may have no choice but to protract the System.
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* In ''Fanfic/FarceOfTheThreeKingdoms,'' Wei under the Cao regime isn't such a bad place for the commoners (at least, until Cao Rui goes on a building spree). Cao Cao [[PragmaticVillainy is careful not to make the commoners suffer too much]], most of the time, and the state he leaves behind is quite stable for two generations. On the other hand, [[DesignatedHero Shu]] devolves into a straight {{Dystopia}}, as Zhuge Liang and later Jiang Wei drain all its resources for their (staggeringly incompetent) war machine.
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** Caesar's Legion is the game's main "evil" faction, and they certainly are quite evil. They do all kinds of terrible things such as rape, slavery, [[FelonyMisdemeanor banning alcohol]], you name it. However, even their strongest detractors will grudgingly admit that Legion-aligned merchant caravans are ''the'' safest out there, with zero danger of ever getting robbed, because ''nobody'' wants to make the Legion mad at them. One of your companions, Raul, also spent some time living in Arizona before the Legion conquered it. According to him, the Legion might be a bunch of tyrants, but they were a ''massive'' step up from "lawless, Raider-infested hellhole". For this reason he's practically the only companion that isn't vehemently anti-Legion. It's still a rather odd position for him to take, given that he's a ghoul, which are exterminated on sight in Legion-controlled territory. It's also averted in the game's endings where Caesar either didn't have his brain tumor removed leading to his post-game death or was killed by the Courier during the game, as without him to lead the Legion it quickly fragments into anarchy.

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** Caesar's Legion is the game's main "evil" faction, and they certainly are quite evil. They do all kinds of terrible things such as rape, slavery, [[FelonyMisdemeanor banning alcohol]], you name it. However, even their strongest detractors will grudgingly admit that Legion-aligned merchant caravans are ''the'' safest out there, with zero danger of ever getting robbed, because ''nobody'' wants to make the Legion mad at them. One of your companions, Raul, also spent some time living in Arizona before the Legion conquered it. According to him, the Legion might be a bunch of tyrants, but they were a ''massive'' step up from "lawless, Raider-infested hellhole". For this reason he's practically the only companion that isn't vehemently anti-Legion. It's still a rather odd position for him to take, given that he's a ghoul, which are exterminated on sight in Legion-controlled territory.and the Legion is virulently anti-ghoul and super mutant. It's also averted in the game's endings where Caesar either didn't have his brain tumor removed leading to his post-game death or was killed by the Courier during the game, as without him to lead the Legion it quickly fragments into anarchy.
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* ''Franchise/DragonBall'': Yes, Frieza is a ruthless, power-hungry, tyrannical GalacticConqueror, but his method of ruling through fear and intimidation was what held his empire together and kept things running. In fact, this is the entire reason Sorbet opted to resurrect him during ''[[Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF Resurrection 'F']]'', because the empire was [[VestigialEmpire on the brink of collapse without Frieza to keep things in check]].
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* ''Fanfic/FalloutEquestria'': Red Eye's empire is a brutal slave state perpetuating some of the worst parts of the Wasteland, but it is ''working''. Red Eye has industry, a real army, and children are safe under his care. He even has an actual plan that is one of the Wasteland's best chances for the future. Littlepip, despite being horrified by everything he does, admits that from a coldly pragmatic point of view, she should side with him. She decides against it because what's good for the Wasteland isn't good for Equestria. The world can never truly improve if he treats them as children who need to be forced into obedience.
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* Randall Flagg's regime in Creator/StephenKing's ''Literature/TheStand'' is like this, to the point where the characters even say "the trains run on time" word-for-word. While the more-or-less democratic [[TheRepublic Boulder Free Zone]] is struggling to get the power turned on and handle basic sanitation, [[TheEmpire Las Vegas under Flagg]] has public education, an organized system for caring for the many underage orphans of the plague, and a modern military. [[BreadEggsMilkSquick Plus public executions and crucifixions!]] He does eventually fall victim to EvilWillFail in the end, but much of that is due to his inhuman nature reasserting itself and the accompanying mental deterioration.



* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', the capital city of Ankh-Morpork is ruled by one Lord Vetinari, Tyrant. While there are MANY rival factions who would wish to take over, no one does because under Vetinari, everything works. Perfectly. When a rival ruler pops up, Vetinari usually just locks himself in the dungeon, until everyone realizes that it was so much better under him and he gets reinstated. Vetinari's authoritarian rule is explicitly contrasted against the fledgling democracy of neighboring city-state Pseudopolis (which has recently voted not to have to pay taxes). The main reason this works is that he mostly just persuades the various factions to work together instead of trying to do everything top-down, only rarely directly invoking his authority (and it's a recurring plot point that pretty much nobody in Ankh-Morpork pays taxes either).
* Civilization in ''Literature/BraveNewWorld'' is a strictly regimented society where everything about a person is planned out before they're even a fertilized test tube. Everyone is conditioned to accept their place in life, and people are kept in line by a government-produced drug called Soma. Any free thought is severely frowned upon, and even the most dull and unimaginative person from our time would hate living there, but everyone has a high standard of living, the citizens are insanely happy, and there's no crime. Occasionally someone's conditioning will fail and they'll be [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill a free thinker and unhappy with their lot]], but those people aren't punished, imprisoned, or executed, just given the choice between joining the ruling class or going into voluntary exile in an island community of like-minded people, which is relatively humane by {{dystopia}}n standards. The society is juxtaposed with that of the "savages," who are people who live in a tribal society with standards of living that are terrible by comparison.



* Zig-zagged in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]]. On the one hand, the Old Republic was a very long-lived, stable and prosperous democratic society, while various Sith Empires crumbled relatively quickly. On the other hand, post-Revenge of the Sith, everything becomes the other way round: various attempts to restore democracy result in a total mess again and again. The post-Palpatine Empire goes through a long period of decline and internal squabbling, but ultimately emerges, loses its villain status, and is shown as the more stable and responsible galactic state.

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* Zig-zagged Civilization in ''Literature/BraveNewWorld'' is a strictly regimented society where everything about a person is planned out before they're even a fertilized test tube. Everyone is conditioned to accept their place in life, and people are kept in line by a government-produced drug called Soma. Any free thought is severely frowned upon, and even the ''Franchise/StarWars'' [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]]. On most dull and unimaginative person from our time would hate living there, but everyone has a high standard of living, the one hand, citizens are insanely happy, and there's no crime. Occasionally someone's conditioning will fail and they'll be [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill a free thinker and unhappy with their lot]], but those people aren't punished, imprisoned, or executed, just given the Old Republic was a very long-lived, stable and prosperous democratic society, while various Sith Empires crumbled choice between joining the ruling class or going into voluntary exile in an island community of like-minded people, which is relatively quickly. On the other hand, post-Revenge humane by {{dystopia}}n standards. The society is juxtaposed with that of the Sith, "savages," who are people who live in a tribal society with standards of living that are terrible by comparison.
* In ''Literature/TheCityInTheMiddleOfTheNight'' the citizens of Xiosphant have tightly regimented schedules, where sleeping, waking, eating,
everything becomes takes place at specified times. Justified in that, after living on a TidallyLockedPlanet where it is always twilight in the city, this seems to be the best way the human colonists have figured out how to live without going insane. However, when having a habit of sleeping at the "wrong" times is [[FelonyMisdemeanor punished by death?!]] Yeah, it's pretty extreme.
* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', the capital city of Ankh-Morpork is ruled by one Lord Vetinari, Tyrant. While there are MANY rival factions who would wish to take over, no one does because under Vetinari, everything works. Perfectly. When a rival ruler pops up, Vetinari usually just locks himself in the dungeon, until everyone realizes that it was so much better under him and he gets reinstated. Vetinari's authoritarian rule is explicitly contrasted against the fledgling democracy of neighboring city-state Pseudopolis (which has recently voted not to have to pay taxes). The main reason this works is that he mostly just persuades the various factions to work together instead of trying to do everything top-down, only rarely directly invoking his authority (and it's a recurring plot point that pretty much nobody in Ankh-Morpork pays taxes either).
* At the start of Creator/NKJemisin's ''Literature/InheritanceTrilogy'', the Arameri empire of the Hundred Thousand Kingdoms fancies itself this, as their patron is the god of order. The Arameri keep
the other way round: various attempts to restore democracy result in a total mess again gods metaphysically chained and again. The post-Palpatine Empire goes through a long period of decline and internal squabbling, use them (and the gods' language) as weapons to enforce their will, but ultimately emerges, loses its villain status, and is shown as also to provide magical tools like long-range communicators (in other words, phones) to help their underlings manage the more stable and responsible galactic state.whole world... while still keeping the "phone" lines tapped in case someone needs to be disappeared for sedition.



* Randall Flagg's regime in Creator/StephenKing's ''Literature/TheStand'' is like this, to the point where the characters even say "the trains run on time" word-for-word. While the more-or-less democratic [[TheRepublic Boulder Free Zone]] is struggling to get the power turned on and handle basic sanitation, [[TheEmpire Las Vegas under Flagg]] has public education, an organized system for caring for the many underage orphans of the plague, and a modern military. [[BreadEggsMilkSquick Plus public executions and crucifixions!]] He does eventually fall victim to EvilWillFail in the end, but much of that is due to his inhuman nature reasserting itself and the accompanying mental deterioration.
* Zig-zagged in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]]. On the one hand, the Old Republic was a very long-lived, stable and prosperous democratic society, while various Sith Empires crumbled relatively quickly. On the other hand, post-Revenge of the Sith, everything becomes the other way round: various attempts to restore democracy result in a total mess again and again. The post-Palpatine Empire goes through a long period of decline and internal squabbling, but ultimately emerges, loses its villain status, and is shown as the more stable and responsible galactic state.



* At the start of Creator/NKJemisin's ''Literature/InheritanceTrilogy'', the Arameri empire of the Hundred Thousand Kingdoms fancies itself this, as their patron is the god of order. The Arameri keep the other gods metaphysically chained and use them (and the gods' language) as weapons to enforce their will, but also to provide magical tools like long-range communicators (in other words, phones) to help their underlings manage the whole world... while still keeping the "phone" lines tapped in case someone needs to be disappeared for sedition.
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* ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'': The Seanchan [[TheEmpire Empire]] is an authoritarian regime with a brutally enforced caste system, a ghastly institution of slavery and {{Dehumanization}}, and an infamous StateSec, but its (non-enslaved) citizens are otherwise secure and well provided for. Many commoners in its invaded territories are glad for the relative peace and stability, compared to the previous generations of squabbling noble houses.
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** Caesar's Legion is the game's main "evil" faction, and they certainly are quite evil. They do all kinds of terrible things such as rape, slavery, [[FelonyMisdemeanor banning alcohol]], you name it. However, even their strongest detractors will grudgingly admit that Legion-aligned merchant caravans are ''the'' safest out there, with zero danger of ever getting robbed, because ''nobody'' wants to make the Legion mad at them. One of your companions, Raul, also spent some time living in Arizona before the Legion conquered it. According to him, the Legion might be a bunch of tyrants, but they were a ''massive'' step up from "lawless, Raider-infested hellhole". For this reason he's practically the only companion that isn't vehemently anti-Legion.

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** Caesar's Legion is the game's main "evil" faction, and they certainly are quite evil. They do all kinds of terrible things such as rape, slavery, [[FelonyMisdemeanor banning alcohol]], you name it. However, even their strongest detractors will grudgingly admit that Legion-aligned merchant caravans are ''the'' safest out there, with zero danger of ever getting robbed, because ''nobody'' wants to make the Legion mad at them. One of your companions, Raul, also spent some time living in Arizona before the Legion conquered it. According to him, the Legion might be a bunch of tyrants, but they were a ''massive'' step up from "lawless, Raider-infested hellhole". For this reason he's practically the only companion that isn't vehemently anti-Legion. It's still a rather odd position for him to take, given that he's a ghoul, which are exterminated on sight in Legion-controlled territory. It's also averted in the game's endings where Caesar either didn't have his brain tumor removed leading to his post-game death or was killed by the Courier during the game, as without him to lead the Legion it quickly fragments into anarchy.
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* In ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'', the Clans like to portray their society, which is a caste system with an planned economy where everything is run by and in support of the Warrior Caste as being the epitome of efficiency. In reality it's an absurdly wasteful system that foolishly wastes resources and lives due to insisting on TheSpartanWay as the only way to do things. For more than 100 years prior to their invasion of the Inner Sphere, the Clans had been economically and technologically stagnant.
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** In-contrast to the [[FascistButInefficient cripplingly inefficient]] [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Earth Queen]] and her [[SecretPolice Dai Li]], [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Kuvira and the Earth Empire]] in ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' are portrayed as much more effective in winning over the people and establishing order. She and her organization single-handedly made peace between all of the Earth Kingdom territories after the anarchy brought on by the Earth Queen's death and then quickly establishes herself as its new monarch, gathering nay-sayers and citizens of non-Earth Kingdom descent into re-education camps and developed [[StupidJetpackHitler spirit-energy-based super weapons]] operated on metalbending with intentions on taking back Republic City. Because of her intelligence and skill, Kuvira and the Earth Empire are arguably the largest threat in the entire series.

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** In-contrast In contrast to the [[FascistButInefficient cripplingly inefficient]] [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Earth Queen]] and her [[SecretPolice Dai Li]], [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Kuvira and the Earth Empire]] in ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' are portrayed as much more effective in winning over the people and establishing order. She and her organization single-handedly made peace between all of the Earth Kingdom territories after the anarchy brought on by the Earth Queen's death and then quickly establishes herself as its new monarch, gathering nay-sayers and citizens of non-Earth Kingdom descent into re-education camps and developed [[StupidJetpackHitler spirit-energy-based super weapons]] operated on metalbending with intentions on taking back Republic City. Because of her intelligence and skill, Kuvira and the Earth Empire are arguably the largest threat in the entire series.
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In RealLife, this is [[FascistButInefficient averted]] ''at least'' as often as played straight. Authoritarianism is notoriously plagued by corruption, and even when dictatorships work relatively well, those that are based around a CultOfPersonality tend to crumble on their leader's death. It's noteworthy that in UsefulNotes/NaziGermany itself, the trains were in fact notoriously unreliable... not least because the Nazis promoted the use of automobiles and invested in the autobahns at the expense of trains and the railways even though Germany produced neither rubber nor oil and was one of the world's leading producers of steel and coal (on the grounds that [[TechnologyLevels automobiles were 'more advanced' and 'more modern' than trains]]). Consequently they actually had ''fewer'' trains in 1939 than they had in 1914, and ran out of (unused) tires in mid-July 1941 after the second week of their campaign against the USSR. And, contrary to popular belief, Mussolini did ''not'' [[http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.asp make the trains run on time]]. Remember also, that fascism came to power in countries which were already developed and that a good deal of its vaunted "efficiency" is blurred by the pre-takeover infrastructure continuing afterwards.

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In RealLife, this is [[FascistButInefficient averted]] ''at least'' as often as played straight. Authoritarianism is notoriously plagued by corruption, and even when dictatorships work relatively well, those that are based around a CultOfPersonality tend to crumble on their leader's death. It's noteworthy that in UsefulNotes/NaziGermany itself, the trains were in fact notoriously unreliable... not least because the Nazis promoted the use of automobiles and invested in the autobahns at the expense of trains and the railways even though Germany produced neither rubber nor oil and was one of the world's leading producers of steel and coal (on the grounds that [[TechnologyLevels automobiles were 'more advanced' and 'more modern' than trains]]). Consequently they actually had ''fewer'' trains in 1939 than they had in 1914, and ran out of (unused) tires in mid-July 1941 after the second week of their campaign against the USSR. And, contrary to popular belief, Mussolini did ''not'' [[http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.asp make the trains run on time]].time]], his regime actually being [[FascistButInefficient the polar opposite]]. Remember also, that fascism came to power in countries which were already developed and that a good deal of its vaunted "efficiency" is blurred by the pre-takeover infrastructure continuing afterwards.
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* * ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' probably gets as close to this as possible for [[AnimationAgeGhetto a kid cartoon]] with the Justice Lords, a KnightTemplar AlternateUniverse equivalent to the titular League, who revoked their ThouShaltNotKill dogma, removed free speech, united all world governments under their rule and lobotomized all their supervillains (and, reading between the lines, possibly a few rebellious superheroes as well). End result:

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* * ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' probably gets as close to this as possible for [[AnimationAgeGhetto a kid cartoon]] with the Justice Lords, a KnightTemplar AlternateUniverse equivalent to the titular League, who revoked their ThouShaltNotKill dogma, removed free speech, united all world governments under their rule and lobotomized all their supervillains (and, reading between the lines, possibly a few rebellious superheroes as well). End result:

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