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IsaacAsimov once said that most ScienceFiction is written by atheists. There are a [[CSLewis number of]] [[CliffordSimak notable]] [[RayBradbury exceptions]], and it might not be literally true, but SciFi probably has more atheist authors than other genres do. A lot of these writers insert this [[AuthorAppeal personal outlook]] into the story. Sometimes they just portray atheists as good and rationally thinking people. Sometimes they go further.

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IsaacAsimov once said that most ScienceFiction is written by atheists. There are a [[CSLewis number number]] [[OrsonScottCard of]] [[CliffordSimak notable]] [[RayBradbury exceptions]], and it might not be literally true, but SciFi probably has more atheist authors than other genres do. A lot of these writers insert this [[AuthorAppeal personal outlook]] into the story. Sometimes they just portray atheists as good and rationally thinking people. Sometimes they go further.
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He\'s not so much given an option as he outright argues with Morpheus on the point.


** One notable example of this trope is the conversation with Morpheus in the first game, who says things along the lines that God is man-made. However, JC is given the option to disagree, as well as reject [[spoiler: Helios']] desire to play God as well.

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** One notable As an example of this trope on how religion is the conversation with Morpheus treated in the first game, who says things along the lines Morpheus (an A.I. [[spoiler: prototype of a global surveillance system]] developed by a surviving Knights Templar) claims that God is man-made. However, not only man-made but made out of a desire to be observed. Morpheus believes humans feel pleasure when they're watched, so he concludes religion was invented to give this pleasure. [[PlayerCharacter JC Denton]], however, disagrees and argues with Morpheus on the matter ("Electronic surveillance hardly inspires reverence. Perhaps fear and obedience, but not reverence").\\
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While Morpheus is never proven "right" or "wrong" about religion, he ''does'' foreshadow plot details with the conversation. Later on, JC Denton
is given the option to disagree, as well as reject [[spoiler: Helios']] desire to play God as well.God.
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** AN episode concerned a planet that was filled with corpses. The crew found one person who was not quite dead and revived him. It turned out that on his planet, people who are about to die are sent through a portal to the afterlife, and he was understandably distraught to find that it was actually sending them to another planet where they stayed dead. However, the episode had an OrIsIt ending, where it's hinted that their afterlife ''does'' exist in the planet's rings.

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** AN episode concerned a planet that was filled with corpses. The crew found one person who was not quite dead and revived him. It turned out that on his planet, people who are about to die are sent through a portal to the afterlife, and he was understandably distraught to find that it was actually sending them to another planet where they stayed dead. However, the episode had an OrIsIt ending, where it's hinted that their afterlife ''does'' exist in the planet's rings.rings, and the planet filled with corpses is probably just some kind of temporary holding space.
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* In ''HisDarkMaterials'', God exists ([[spoiler:and is killed]]), but [[CrystalDragonJesus Magisterium]] is wrong and [[CorruptChurch corrupt]], they must die, their churches must be destroyed and characters will team up with anything, being it good or evil, to fulfill it.

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* In ''HisDarkMaterials'', God exists ([[spoiler:and is killed]]), but [[CrystalDragonJesus Magisterium]] is wrong and [[CorruptChurch corrupt]], they must die, their churches must be destroyed and characters will team up with anything, being be it good or evil, to fulfill it.it. Priests are depicted as being nothing but [[CardCaryingVillan Card Carying Villans]].




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* The ''Doctor Who'' book ''[[HumansareBastards Night of the Humans]]'' plays out this trope in a truly bizarre fashion. The Doctor responds to a crash-landed alien race on a massive pile of space-junk that is threatening a nearby planet. This interesting premise is quickly overshadowed by an incredibly unsubtle StrawManPolitical message that turns [[AuthorFilibuster the entire book into one long and extremely dubious]] [[BrokenAesop Aesop]] about how all religion is [[ReligionOfEvil completely eeeeeevil]]. The chosen 'god' of the crashed humans turns out to be [[NightmareFuel a creepy, creepy, clown]] [[{{Squick}} called Gobo]], who's presence and use as a (very) heavy-handed metaphor for all religion is just ''one'' of the many things ([[spoiler:along with the fact that this book is aimed directly at young children]]) that will probably lead you to an [[ManipulativeBastard unfavourable opinion of the author]].
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*** They also made sure that a less moral (or simply more nosy) character can find out he's a hypocrite. Despite his insistence that Children of the Atom be sober pacifists, in his desk are a bottle of whiskey and a gun.
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** One notable example of this trope is the conversation with Morpheus in the first game, who says things along the lines that God is man-made. However, JC is given the option to disagree, as well as reject [[spoiler: Helios']] desire to play God as well.
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** Religion in DragonAge is a lot more complicated than that. Supposedly, prayers aren't answered because of mankind's hubris. The priest refused to bless the knights because what they were asking for wasn't a simple blessing, but a guarantee of divine protection, something she couldn't provide. The Templars are a lot more morally grey than their name implies, and overall, the game leaves the existence or nonexistence of [[{{God}} The Maker]] ambiguous. [[IncrediblyLamePun Word]] [[WordOfGod Of God]] is that they intend for it to stay that way.

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** Technically, [[spoiler:he is not killed, he dies because, being thousands of years old, he collapses because of the ''wind'']]
** [[spoiler: And technically he isn't God, he's an angel who convinced the rest of the multiverse that he had created everything else. So, technically, God as he is traditionally viewed doesn't exist, just an impostor who made all that stuff up]].



** Well, he wasn't always quite as gloomy about science. He just found it aesthetically displeasing - the same complaint he had about religion. He certainly loved to read scientific publications to get inspiration for his stories.
* BobShaw's ''TheRaggedAstronauts'' features twin planets and the cult claiming that all people reincarnate cycle between these two planets eternally. Then the characters make an expedition to the second planet. You can guess whether they find people there or not. Come on. Guess.
** Then the cult is reborn in ''TheWoodenSpaceships'', but with a distant planet of the same solar system. What happens then? You got the idea.

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** Well, he wasn't always quite as gloomy about science. He just found it aesthetically displeasing - the same complaint he had about religion. He certainly loved to read scientific publications to get inspiration for his stories.
* BobShaw's ''TheRaggedAstronauts'' features twin planets and the cult claiming that all people reincarnate cycle between these two planets eternally. Then the characters make an expedition to the second planet. You can guess whether they find people there or not. Come on. Guess.
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Then the cult is reborn in ''TheWoodenSpaceships'', but with a distant planet of the same solar system. What happens then? You got the idea.



* In ''TheLightOfOtherDays'', the technology is invented to open windows to any point in space and time and watch events as they happened. Amongst other things, Moses never existed, being a composite of various historical figures, and Jesus did exist but never performed any miracles.
** Although the [[spoiler:darkening of the sun at his crucifixion]] was explained as being the result of [[spoiler:too many people opening windows to see what happened]].

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* In ''TheLightOfOtherDays'', the technology is invented to open windows to any point in space and time and watch events as they happened. Amongst other things, Moses never existed, being a composite of various historical figures, and Jesus did exist but never performed any miracles.
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miracles. Although the [[spoiler:darkening of the sun at his crucifixion]] was explained as being the result of [[spoiler:too many people opening windows to see what happened]].



* One ''StarTrekVoyager'' episode concerned a planet that was filled with corpses. The crew found one person who was not quite dead and revived him. It turned out that on his planet, people who are about to die are sent through a portal to the afterlife, and he was understandably distraught to find that it was actually sending them to another planet where they stayed dead. However, the episode had an OrIsIt ending, where it's hinted that their afterlife ''does'' exist in the planet's rings.

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episode concerned a planet that was filled with corpses. The crew found one person who was not quite dead and revived him. It turned out that on his planet, people who are about to die are sent through a portal to the afterlife, and he was understandably distraught to find that it was actually sending them to another planet where they stayed dead. However, the episode had an OrIsIt ending, where it's hinted that their afterlife ''does'' exist in the planet's rings.



* Many times in StarTrekTheOriginalSeries. In Return of the Archons, the people of Beta III are all zombies under the control of the omnipotent Landru. [[spoiler: Landru is a telepathic artificial intelligence that Kirk [[KirkSummation talks]] [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath to death.]]]] In For The World is Hollow and I have Touched The Sky, the people of the spaceship Yonada have forgotten they're in a spaceship and are ruled by an unforgiving Oracle that can deal out instant, painful death should anyone disobey. [[spoiler: The Oracle is also a computer, this time defeated when its head Priestess turns against it after [=McCoy=] convinces her she's wrong through ThePowerOfLove and common sense.]] In The Apple, Kirk once again [[spoiler: destroys a civilization's computer god]], but the example is iffy, as it doesn't [[YourMilageMayVary always]] leave the watcher with the impression Kirk [[WhatTheHellHero did the right thing]].
* Done as a throwaway gag in ''RedDwarf''. A news report reveals that archaeologists have discovered the long lost first page of TheBible - "For my darling Candy. The characters and events depicted in this novel are fictitious. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental." Apparently the page "has been universally condemned by church leaders."

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* Many times in StarTrekTheOriginalSeries. StarTrekTheOriginalSeries:
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In Return "Return of the Archons, Archons," the people of Beta III are all zombies under the control of the omnipotent Landru. [[spoiler: Landru is a telepathic artificial intelligence that Kirk [[KirkSummation talks]] [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath to death.]]]] ]]]]
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In For "For The World is Hollow and I have Touched The Sky, Sky," the people of the spaceship Yonada have forgotten they're in a spaceship and are ruled by an unforgiving Oracle that can deal out instant, painful death should anyone disobey. [[spoiler: The Oracle is also a computer, this time defeated when its head Priestess turns against it after [=McCoy=] convinces her she's wrong through ThePowerOfLove and common sense.]] ]]
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In The Apple, "The Apple," Kirk once again [[spoiler: destroys a civilization's computer god]], but the example is iffy, as it doesn't [[YourMilageMayVary always]] leave the watcher with the impression Kirk [[WhatTheHellHero did the right thing]].
* Done as a throwaway gag in ''RedDwarf''. ''RedDwarf'':
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A news report reveals that archaeologists have discovered the long lost first page of TheBible - "For my darling Candy. The characters and events depicted in this novel are fictitious. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental." Apparently the page "has been universally condemned by church leaders."



*** Of course, Cat is so self-centered that if he even considers the idea of God worth bothering with, he's convinced that ''he'' is God. Not to mention that Lister both dislikes the idea that he was deified, is perfectly aware of the fact he is not even remotely divine, and has personal habits that would make just about any faithful religious person disown the very thought he could actually be their god.
* Impressively subverted in StargateSG1. Our heroes constantly prove to societies that they are serving false gods and that their religious artifacts are actually advanced technology, but various members of the SGC retain a belief in God that no one ever tries to dispute.

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*** ** Of course, Cat is so self-centered that if he even considers the idea of God worth bothering with, he's convinced that ''he'' is God. Not to mention that Lister both dislikes the idea that he was deified, is perfectly aware of the fact he is not even remotely divine, and has personal habits that would make just about any faithful religious person disown the very thought he could actually be their god.
* Impressively subverted Subverted in StargateSG1. Our heroes constantly prove to societies that they are serving false gods and that their religious artifacts are actually advanced technology, but various members of the SGC retain a belief in God that no one ever tries to dispute.



* The central aspect of the ''AssassinsCreed'' metaplot concerns advanced technology that was used to perform the miracles in various religions. The ending of the sequel reveals that [[spoiler:all world religions are based on misinterpreted accounts of a technologically advanced race of {{Precursors}} who created humans in their image]].
** If you're willing believe AncientConspiracy, of course - which is ''[[ParanoiaFuel exactly what they want you to think]]''.

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* The central aspect of the ''AssassinsCreed'' metaplot concerns advanced technology that was used to perform the miracles in various religions. The ending of the sequel reveals that [[spoiler:all world religions are based on misinterpreted accounts of a technologically advanced race of {{Precursors}} who created humans in their image]].
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* ''DragonAge: Origins'' is either an aversion or a subversion. Chantry says that [[TheGodsMustBeLazy the Maker is just lazy]], prayers are not answered, religion is ''not'' magic (note that ReligionIsMagic in all other {{BioWare}} games which have magic), [[KnightTemplar templars]] are dumb, killers and drug-users, and clergy even refuses to bless an army at some point, making you think that trope is played completery straight... and then the game starts [[ShoutOut quoting]] ''TheLordOfTheRings'' without {{Deconstruction}}. In case you didn't know, ''TheLordOfTheRings'' is about [[{{God}} Iluvatar]]'s guidance.
** The religious outlook of the game is probably something like "GodIsGood" but religious ''organisations'' can do some pretty stupid things.
* Invoked in ''Fallout 3'' with the cult formed around Harold, a ghoul who has turned into a large tree. The cult in the Oasis worship him as a god and blithely ignore and over-interpret his protests otherwise. If the player character finishes the relevant quest by killing Harold (which is what he ''wants'') the cult more-or-less thank you for freeing them from their religion, and are suddenly able to see that Harold wasn't a god after all.

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* ''DragonAge: Origins'' is either an aversion or a subversion. Chantry says that [[TheGodsMustBeLazy the Maker is just lazy]], prayers are not answered, religion is ''not'' magic (note that ReligionIsMagic in all other {{BioWare}} games which have magic), [[KnightTemplar templars]] are dumb, killers and drug-users, and clergy even refuses to bless an army at some point, making you think that trope is played completery straight... and then the game starts [[ShoutOut quoting]] ''TheLordOfTheRings'' without {{Deconstruction}}. In case you didn't know, ''TheLordOfTheRings'' is about [[{{God}} Iluvatar]]'s guidance.
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guidance. The religious outlook of the game is probably something like "GodIsGood" but religious ''organisations'' can do some pretty stupid things.
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cult formed around Harold, a ghoul who has turned into a large tree. The cult in the Oasis worship him as a god and blithely ignore and over-interpret his protests otherwise. If the player character finishes the relevant quest by killing Harold (which is what he ''wants'') the cult more-or-less thank you for freeing them from their religion, and are suddenly able to see that Harold wasn't a god after all.



* ''{{Futurama}}'' parodies this trope when Leela finally finds out the truth about the origins of the universe and the meaning of life (which we the audience do not get to hear), the only thing she says is, "so every religion is wrong!"
** Contrast the example on ReligionIsRight where Bender meets God.
*** Sort of. It might have been a SufficientlyAdvancedAlien, or, as Bender suggests, the remains of a computerized space probe that collided with God... [[DoubleSubversion which still implies that there was a God for it to collide with]].
** Every religion can be wrong at the same time that God exists. Especially concerning a particular topic like an origin story.
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* ''{{Futurama}}'' parodies this trope when Leela finally finds out the truth about the origins of the universe and the meaning of life (which we the audience do not get to hear), the only thing she says is, "so every religion is wrong!"
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wrong!" Contrast the example on ReligionIsRight where Bender meets God.
*** Sort of. It might have been a SufficientlyAdvancedAlien, or, as Bender suggests, the remains of a computerized space probe that collided with God... [[DoubleSubversion which still implies that there was a God for it to collide with]].
** Every religion can be wrong at the same time that God exists. Especially concerning a particular topic like an origin story.
*** Since they are mutually exclusive, most of them are definitely wrong.
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* Many times in StarTrekTheOriginalSeries. In Return of the Archons, the people of Beta III are all zombies under the control of the omnipotent Landru. [[spoiler: Landru is a telepathic artificial intelligence that Kirk [[KirkSummation talks]] [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath to death.]]]] In For The World is Hollow and I have Touched The Sky, the people of the spaceship Yonada have forgotten they're in a spaceship and are ruled by an unforgiving Oracle that can deal out instant, painful death should anyone disobey. [[spoiler: The Oracle is also a computer, this time defeated when its head Priestess turns against it after [=McCoy=] convinces her she's wrong through ThePowerOfLove and common sense.]] In The Apple, Kirk once again [[spoiler: destroys a civilization's computer god]], but the example is iffy, as it doesn't [[YourMilageMayVary always]] leave the watcher with the impression Kirk [[WhatTheHellHero did the right thing]].
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Compare ScamReligion, UnwantedFalseFaith and ThePresentsWereNeverFromSanta. Contrast ReligionIsRight. For a musical version, this trope is also a goldmine of ReligionRantSong material.

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Compare ScamReligion, UnwantedFalseFaith and ThePresentsWereNeverFromSanta. Contrast ReligionIsRight. For a musical version, this trope is also a goldmine of ReligionRantSong material. For an emotional, rather than scientifical, denounce see ThereIsNoGod.
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This change can be seen easiest with TheKnightsTemplar in both games. In ''DeusEx'', they were the surviving descendants of the original Knights, who had remained as religious bankers [[spoiler: with ties to the Illuminati]]. In ''Invisible War'', they're one of the only truly "black" factions who will plunge the world into an [[TheFundamentalist extremist]], [[BeliefMakesYouStupid theocratic dark age]] if they win.

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This change can be seen easiest with TheKnightsTemplar in both games. In ''DeusEx'', they were the surviving descendants of the original Knights, who had remained as religious bankers [[spoiler: with bankers[[hottip:*:(The Knights Templar also had ties to the Illuminati]].Illuminati, but the Illuminati of ''Deus Ex'' had intrinsic spiritual themes as a contrast to Bob Page's secular Majestic Twelve. Spirituality and religion were part of what they were, not a method of controlling people.)]]. In ''Invisible War'', they're one of the only truly "black" factions who will plunge the world into an [[TheFundamentalist extremist]], [[BeliefMakesYouStupid theocratic dark age]] if they win.
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This change can be seen easiest with TheKnightsTemplar in both games. In ''DeusEx'', they were the surviving descendants of the original Knights, who had remained religious bankers. In ''Invisible War'', they're one of the only truly "black" factions who will plunge the world into an extremist, theocratic dark age if they win.

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This change can be seen easiest with TheKnightsTemplar in both games. In ''DeusEx'', they were the surviving descendants of the original Knights, who had remained as religious bankers. bankers [[spoiler: with ties to the Illuminati]]. In ''Invisible War'', they're one of the only truly "black" factions who will plunge the world into an extremist, [[TheFundamentalist extremist]], [[BeliefMakesYouStupid theocratic dark age age]] if they win.
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* ''[[DeusExInvisibleWar Deus Ex: Invisible War]]'' makes this one of its major themes in a glaring change from its predecessor, ''DeusEx.'' In ''DeusEx'', religion and spirituality were themes that ran parallel to the setting and plot, but never outright stated to be either "right" or "wrong." In ''Invisible War'', however, all religion is subsumed into The Order, and The Order is [[spoiler: merely a system of control for the Illuminati]]. The player is given the chance to break the news to an Order member, with predictable results.\\
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***Since they are mutually exclusive, most of them are definitely wrong.
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* This seems to be the case in the DeathNote universe. At the beginning of the series, the {{shinigami}} Ryuk tells [[VillainProtagonist Light Yagami]] that anyone who uses the titular notebook can "neither go to heaven or hell", but at the very end, [[spoiler: just as he's about to die from Ryuk writing his name in his own notebook after having been finally defeated]] we see a flashback were Light deduces that this simply means that there is [[CessationOfExistence no afterlife at all]]. Also, WordOfGod has apparently stated at least once that there are no gods in the manga's universe, aside from the shinigami. This is at least the case in the manga; the anime series is much more ambiguous on the question of God and the afterlife.
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* In ''TheLastResurrection'' Jesus is the final boss, and is portrayed as a genocidal lunatic personally responsible for Nazism.
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** ''Voyager'' also had an episode about Neelix questioning his faith after dying and being resuscitated, which showed him that [[TheNothingAfterDeath there is nothing after death]], instead of the Talaxian afterlife he expected.

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* Played with in ''{{Futurama}}'', when Leela finally finds out the truth about the origins of the universe and the meaning of life (which we the audience do not get to hear), the only thing she says is, "so every religion is wrong!"
** It' probably an outright ''parody'' of this trope, not just playing with it.

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* Played with in ''{{Futurama}}'', ''{{Futurama}}'' parodies this trope when Leela finally finds out the truth about the origins of the universe and the meaning of life (which we the audience do not get to hear), the only thing she says is, "so every religion is wrong!"
** It' probably an outright ''parody'' of this trope, not just playing with it.
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*** Sort of. It might have been a SufficientlyAdvancedAlien, or, as Bender suggests, the remains of a computerized space probe that collided with god.God... [[DoubleSubversion which still implies that there was a God for it to collide with]].
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** The religious outlook of the game is probably something like "GodIsGood" but religious ''organisations'' can do some pretty stupid things.
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* Impressively subverted in StargateSG1. Our heroes constantly prove to societies that they are serving false gods and that their religious artifacts are actually advanced technology, but various members of the SGC retain a belief in God that no one ever tries to dispute.
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** In other words, [[CaptainObvious author doesn't like Christianity too much]].
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*** That wasn't God, it was God after a satellite crashed into Him.

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*** That wasn't God, it was God after Sort of. It might have been a satellite crashed into Him.SufficientlyAdvancedAlien, or, as Bender suggests, the remains of a computerized space probe that collided with god.
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This trope ''is'' partially TruthInTelevision regarding [[CreationMyth mythology of creation]] and the nature of the universe- the earth moves around the sun and not visa-versa, stars are distant suns rather than bits of spilt milk from a torn breast, the world is a large round ball with inhabitants the whole way around and not a disc riding on an animal or a ball with people on one side, the world was made from the dust of exploded stars coalescing over the course of eons rather than out of the corpse of a giant over the course of a weekend, humanity is extremely recent and didn't exist for most of the planet's existence, etc. Sometimes the religion is correct if it was made recently enough or was sufficiently vague to be correct FromACertainPointOfView, but chances are the trope is in action if its CreationMyth goes into much detail.

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* Invoked in ''Fallout 3'' with the cult formed around Harold, a ghoul who has turned into a large tree. The cult in the Oasis worship him as a god and blithely ignore and over-interpret his protests otherwise. If the player character finishes the relevant quest by killing Harold (which is what he ''wants'') the cult more-or-less thank you for freeing them from their religion, and are suddenly able to see that Harold wasn't a god after all.
** This trope is also in play with the church of Atom in the town of Megaton, who worship an atomic bomb as a potential creator billions of universes. Confessor Cromwell, who is effectively a preacher for the religion, stands all day in a pool of irradiated water and it's implied that this has driven him mad, or at least less sane.

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