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The term "relative unknown" refers to people, usually actors or other celebrities, who may have a cult following or be somewhat famous (especially perhaps in only a certain area) but are not expected to draw in crowds on their name power alone. For example, in about 2009 Creator/EmilyBlunt was a big name in the UK but a nobody in the US, so her film ''Film/GulliversTravels'' opened to poor reception in the latter country.

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The term "relative unknown" refers to people, usually actors or other celebrities, who may have a cult following or be somewhat famous (especially perhaps in only a certain area) but are not expected to draw in crowds on their name power alone. For example, in about 2009 Creator/EmilyBlunt was a big name in the UK but a nobody in the US, so her film ''Film/GulliversTravels'' ''Film/GulliversTravels2010'' opened to poor reception in the latter country.
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The term "relative unknown" refers to people, usually actors or other celebrities, who may have a cult following or be somewhat famous (especially perhaps in only a certain area) but are not expected to draw in crowds on their name power alone. For example, in about 2009 Creator/EmilyBlunt was a big name in the UK but a nobody in the US, so nobody in the latter country went to see ''Gulliver's Travels''.

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The term "relative unknown" refers to people, usually actors or other celebrities, who may have a cult following or be somewhat famous (especially perhaps in only a certain area) but are not expected to draw in crowds on their name power alone. For example, in about 2009 Creator/EmilyBlunt was a big name in the UK but a nobody in the US, so nobody her film ''Film/GulliversTravels'' opened to poor reception in the latter country went to see ''Gulliver's Travels''.
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Most people know who they are related to. Most people know their friends' family, too. However, in fiction there are many ways to create story tension by having a relative be unknown before leading into a reveal.

The work has Alice, who has been friends with Bob for a long time. In season 4, Bob's sister Claire comes to visit and Alice does not know who she is, despite it being a reasonable expectation for her to be acquainted with Claire after knowing her brother so long. Bob may be on vacation and doesn't introduce them, leading to awkward hijinks occurring before it is revealed who Claire is to both the characters and audience. Perhaps Alice has been dismissive of Claire, or mentioned how much she feels threatened by her friend's sisters.

This is not the only circumstance, but is a common one. Another common variation is the character themselves not knowing of a relative of their own, that person then coming to meet them -- in these cases it is more likely that the audience already knows.

A character may also be hiding their relationship to a family member from their friends for a good reason, though that family member may be frequently present.

May be foreshadowed by [[SameSurnameMeansRelated having the same surname]]. The interactions may go on for a significant length of time before the reveal, sometimes with everyone but the relative not knowing, though usually the identity will gradually be told to more people.

See also RememberTheNewGuy, when a never-before-seen character is treated as if they've been through the story with everyone else (making them an unknown relative to the audience, rather than the characters).

SuperTrope to LongLostRelative, for specific cases of when ''both'' parties do not know they are related, YourSonAllAlong, when the relationship is a father-son one that the father doesn't know about and LukeIAmYourFather for the other way around, and RelativeError, when someone doesn't know that two people are siblings and thinks they are dating.

This is not for examples of when two people have alternate identities and don't know that their masked partner/villain is related to them.

The unknown relative may be played by an actor who's a relative unknown, but you may be looking for DarkhorseCasting.

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Luffy apparently never even thought of ''having'' a father (he only remembered having a grandpa) until his grandpa Garp points it out. It, of course, enables a reveal: that Luffy's father is an infamous criminal (the most wanted man in the world, in fact) named Dragon. It is implied that Dragon never raised Luffy and just left him in his hometown in East Blue.
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* In ''Film/{{Wanted}}'', Wesley doesn't realize that [[spoiler:Cross is his father]] until after he kills him. This is foreshadowed by the fact that [[spoiler:Cross seems bent on killing everyone ''but'' Wesley]].
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* ''Series/HouseOfAnubis'':
** Though Patricia had been in Anubis House for what's implied to be several years, only her best friend Joy seemed to be aware of the existence of her [[PolarOppositeTwins Polar Opposite Twin]], Piper. This allowed for a subplot where Piper stayed at Anubis House in secret, inadvertently tricking people like Alfie into thinking Patricia was suddenly being nice (and thus into thinking the crush he had was on her rather than on Piper). The moment when she revealed to everyone in the house that Piper existed was full of shocked reactions that could've only happened had Patricia simply never mentioned Piper's existence. It's implied her jealousy of Piper's talents and social skills were why she kept everyone but Joy in the dark.
** Season two introduced Jerome's younger sister, Poppy. While he'd been secretive about his poor relationship with his parents until he opened up to Mara in the first season, he never mentioned having a little sister until she appeared at the school. Poppy herself [[ExploitedTrope exploited]] this, as she used Jerome's unwillingness to admit her existence to his friends as a way to blackmail him at the beginning of the season.
* ''Series/GreysAnatomy'':
** Arizona picks up a girl at Joe's and takes her home, and it looks like it could be a successful one night stand for her to get over Eliza and finally uncomplicate her love life... until her long-time roommate and good friend, Andrew, comes home and scurries past -- but the girl notices him and calls his name. She reveals that [[spoiler:he is her little brother]], something you would imagine Andrew would have probably mentioned to Arizona [[spoiler:(since they have lived together for a few years and he testified for her at her daughter's custody hearing), or if not to have at least had a photo around that Arizona would have recognized.]]
** Meredith started the show as an only child, discovering over many seasons that she has at least three half-siblings that her parents didn't even hide from her (Molly and Lexie from her dad, Maggie from her mom). She visited her dad a few times before meeting his daughters, apparently just never bumping into them or seeing photos, and was there for Maggie's birth but... forgot? So that Maggie could dramatically reveal it when she gets hired as Cristina's replacement and give Meredith the realization that Maggie's father is [[spoiler:Richard Webber]], which neither of them know. It's surprising that Meredith's mom's Alzheimer's didn't have her ever mention it.
* In the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Journey to Babel" Kirk is surprised to meet [[spoiler:Spock's parents]]. It's a little unrealistic that a Starfleet captain tasked with transporting a distinguished delegation to a vital conference would have no idea that Vulcan's ambassador to the Federation is [[spoiler:his first officer's father.]]
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* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', Junpei was childhood friends with Akane but [[spoiler:is unaware that Aoi (aka Santa) is her brother.]] In the sequels, Sigma and Diana don't know that [[spoiler:Phi is their daughter, but due to alternate universe and time travel shenanigans they technically don't become her parents until one of the bad endings in ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma''.]]
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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'', Miguel spends most of the movie unaware that [[spoiler:Hector is his great-great-grandfather.]]
* ''Disney/MeetTheRobinsons'': It isn't until the start of the third act that Lewis discovers that Wilbur Robinson [[spoiler: will be his son]].
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Most people know The term "relative unknown" refers to people, usually actors or other celebrities, who they may have a cult following or be somewhat famous (especially perhaps in only a certain area) but are related to. Most people know not expected to draw in crowds on their friends' family, too. However, name power alone. For example, in fiction there are many ways about 2009 Creator/EmilyBlunt was a big name in the UK but a nobody in the US, so nobody in the latter country went to create story tension by having a relative be unknown before leading into a reveal.

see ''Gulliver's Travels''.

The work has Alice, who has been friends with Bob for a long time. In season 4, Bob's sister Claire comes to visit and Alice does not know who she is, despite it being a reasonable expectation for her to be acquainted with Claire after knowing her brother so long. Bob may be on vacation and doesn't introduce them, leading to awkward hijinks occurring before it idea is revealed who Claire is to both the characters and audience. Perhaps Alice has been dismissive of Claire, or mentioned how much she feels threatened by her friend's sisters.

This is not the only circumstance, but is
demonstrated in a common one. Another common variation is the character themselves not knowing of a relative of their own, few tropes, please correct any link that person then coming send you here to meet them -- in these cases it is more likely that point to the audience already knows.

A character may also
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be hiding their relationship to a family member from their friends for a good reason, though that family member may be frequently present.

May be foreshadowed by [[SameSurnameMeansRelated having the same surname]]. The interactions may go on for a significant length of time before the reveal, sometimes with everyone but
the relative not knowing, though usually the identity will gradually be told to more people.

See also RememberTheNewGuy, when a never-before-seen character is treated as if they've been through the story with everyone else (making them an
unknown relative to the audience, rather than the characters).

SuperTrope to LongLostRelative, for specific cases of when ''both'' parties do not know
characters that are killed, so that they are related, YourSonAllAlong, when established and kind-of famous, but not the relationship is a father-son one that the father doesn't know about and LukeIAmYourFather for the other way around, and RelativeError, when someone doesn't know that two people are siblings and thinks they are dating.

This is not for examples of when two people have alternate identities and don't know that their masked partner/villain is related to them.

The unknown relative may be played by an actor who's a relative unknown, but you may be
main ones.
* DarkhorseCasting: Deliberately
looking for DarkhorseCasting.

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[[folder:Anime and Manga]]
* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Luffy apparently never even thought of ''having''
relative unknown actors for a father (he only remembered movie cast, or basically having a grandpa) until his grandpa Garp points it out. It, of course, enables a reveal: that Luffy's father is an infamous criminal (the most wanted man in the world, in fact) named Dragon. It is implied that Dragon never raised Luffy and just left him in his hometown in East Blue.
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[[folder: Film -- Live-Action]]
* In ''Film/{{Wanted}}'', Wesley doesn't realize that [[spoiler:Cross is his father]] until after he kills him. This is foreshadowed by the fact that [[spoiler:Cross seems bent on killing everyone ''but'' Wesley]].
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[[folder: Live-Action Television]]
* ''Series/HouseOfAnubis'':
** Though Patricia had been in Anubis House for what's implied to be several years, only her best friend Joy seemed to be aware
opposite of the existence of her [[PolarOppositeTwins Polar Opposite Twin]], Piper. This allowed for a subplot where Piper stayed at Anubis House in secret, inadvertently tricking people like Alfie into thinking Patricia was suddenly being nice (and thus into thinking the crush he had was on her rather than on Piper). The moment when she revealed to everyone in the house that Piper existed was full of shocked reactions that could've only happened had Patricia simply never mentioned Piper's existence. It's implied her jealousy of Piper's talents and social skills were why she kept everyone but Joy in the dark.
** Season two introduced Jerome's younger sister, Poppy. While he'd been secretive about his poor relationship with his parents until he opened up to Mara in the first season, he never mentioned having a little sister until she appeared at the school. Poppy herself [[ExploitedTrope exploited]] this, as she used Jerome's unwillingness to admit her existence to his friends as a way to blackmail him at the beginning of the season.
* ''Series/GreysAnatomy'':
** Arizona picks up a girl at Joe's and takes her home, and it looks like it could be a successful one night stand for her to get over Eliza and finally uncomplicate her love life... until her long-time roommate and good friend, Andrew, comes home and scurries past -- but the girl notices him and calls his name. She reveals that [[spoiler:he is her little brother]], something you would imagine Andrew would have probably mentioned to Arizona [[spoiler:(since they have lived together for a few years and he testified for her at her daughter's custody hearing), or if not to have at least had a photo around that Arizona would have recognized.]]
** Meredith started the show as
an only child, discovering over many seasons that she has at least three half-siblings that her parents didn't even hide from her (Molly and Lexie from her dad, Maggie from her mom). She visited her dad a few times before meeting his daughters, apparently just never bumping into them or seeing photos, and was there for Maggie's birth but... forgot? So that Maggie could dramatically reveal it when she gets hired as Cristina's replacement and give Meredith the realization that Maggie's father is [[spoiler:Richard Webber]], which neither of them know. It's surprising that Meredith's mom's Alzheimer's didn't have her ever mention it.
* In the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Journey to Babel" Kirk is surprised to meet [[spoiler:Spock's parents]]. It's a little unrealistic that a Starfleet captain tasked with transporting a distinguished delegation to a vital conference would have no idea that Vulcan's ambassador to the Federation is [[spoiler:his first officer's father.]]
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* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', Junpei was childhood friends with Akane but [[spoiler:is unaware that Aoi (aka Santa) is her brother.]] In the sequels, Sigma and Diana don't know that [[spoiler:Phi is their daughter, but due to alternate universe and time travel shenanigans they technically don't become her parents until one of the bad endings in ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma''.]]
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[[folder:Western Animation]]
* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'', Miguel spends most of the movie unaware that [[spoiler:Hector is his great-great-grandfather.]]
* ''Disney/MeetTheRobinsons'': It isn't until the start of the third act that Lewis discovers that Wilbur Robinson [[spoiler: will be his son]].
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Most people know who they are related to. Most people know their friends' family, too. However, in fiction there are many ways to create story tension by having a relative be unknown before leading into a reveal.

The work has Alice, who has been friends with Bob for a long time. In season 4, Bob's sister Claire comes to visit and Alice does not know who she is, despite it being a reasonable expectation for her to be acquainted with Claire after knowing her brother so long. Bob may be on vacation and doesn't introduce them, leading to awkward hijinks occurring before it is revealed who Claire is to both the characters and audience. Perhaps Alice has been dismissive of Claire, or mentioned how much she feels threatened by her friend's sisters.

This is not the only circumstance, but is a common one. Another common variation is the character themselves not knowing of a relative of their own, that person then coming to meet them -- in these cases it is more likely that the audience already knows.

A character may also be hiding their relationship to a family member from their friends for a good reason, though that family member may be frequently present.

May be foreshadowed by [[SameSurnameMeansRelated having the same surname]]. The interactions may go on for a significant length of time before the reveal, sometimes with everyone but the relative not knowing, though usually the identity will gradually be told to more people.

See also RememberTheNewGuy, when a never-before-seen character is treated as if they've been through the story with everyone else (making them an unknown relative to the audience, rather than the characters).

SuperTrope to LongLostRelative, for specific cases of when ''both'' parties do not know they are related, YourSonAllAlong, when the relationship is a father-son one that the father doesn't know about and LukeIAmYourFather for the other way around, and RelativeError, when someone doesn't know that two people are siblings and thinks they are dating.

This is not for examples of when two people have alternate identities and don't know that their masked partner/villain is related to them.

The unknown relative may be played by an actor who's a relative unknown, but you may be looking for DarkhorseCasting.

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!!Examples

[[AC:Anime and Manga]]
* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Luffy apparently never even thought of ''having'' a father (he only remembered having a grandpa) until his grandpa Garp points it out. It, of course, enables a reveal: that Luffy's father is an infamous criminal (the most wanted man in the world, in fact) named Dragon. It is implied that Dragon never raised Luffy and just left him in his hometown in East Blue.

[[AC: Film -- Live-Action]]
* In ''Film/{{Wanted}}'', Wesley doesn't realize that [[spoiler:Cross is his father]] until after he kills him. This is foreshadowed by the fact that [[spoiler:Cross seems bent on killing everyone ''but'' Wesley]].

[[AC: Live-Action Television]]
* ''Series/HouseOfAnubis'':
** Though Patricia had been in Anubis House for what's implied to be several years, only her best friend Joy seemed to be aware of the existence of her [[PolarOppositeTwins Polar Opposite Twin]], Piper. This allowed for a subplot where Piper stayed at Anubis House in secret, inadvertently tricking people like Alfie into thinking Patricia was suddenly being nice (and thus into thinking the crush he had was on her rather than on Piper). The moment when she revealed to everyone in the house that Piper existed was full of shocked reactions that could've only happened had Patricia simply never mentioned Piper's existence. It's implied her jealousy of Piper's talents and social skills were why she kept everyone but Joy in the dark.
** Season two introduced Jerome's younger sister, Poppy. While he'd been secretive about his poor relationship with his parents until he opened up to Mara in the first season, he never mentioned having a little sister until she appeared at the school. Poppy herself [[ExploitedTrope exploited]] this, as she used Jerome's unwillingness to admit her existence to his friends as a way to blackmail him at the beginning of the season.
* ''Series/GreysAnatomy'':
** Arizona picks up a girl at Joe's and takes her home, and it looks like it could be a successful one night stand for her to get over Eliza and finally uncomplicate her love life... until her long-time roommate and good friend, Andrew, comes home and scurries past -- but the girl notices him and calls his name. She reveals that [[spoiler:he is her little brother]], something you would imagine Andrew would have probably mentioned to Arizona [[spoiler:(since they have lived together for a few years and he testified for her at her daughter's custody hearing), or if not to have at least had a photo around that Arizona would have recognized.]]
** Meredith started the show as an only child, discovering over many seasons that she has at least three half-siblings that her parents didn't even hide from her (Molly and Lexie from her dad, Maggie from her mom). She visited her dad a few times before meeting his daughters, apparently just never bumping into them or seeing photos, and was there for Maggie's birth but... forgot? So that Maggie could dramatically reveal it when she gets hired as Cristina's replacement and give Meredith the realization that Maggie's father is [[spoiler:Richard Webber]], which neither of them know. It's surprising that Meredith's mom's Alzheimer's didn't have her ever mention it.
* In the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Journey to Babel" Kirk is surprised to meet [[spoiler:Spock's parents]]. It's a little unrealistic that a Starfleet captain tasked with transporting a distinguished delegation to a vital conference would have no idea that Vulcan's ambassador to the Federation is [[spoiler:his first officer's father.]]

[[AC:Visual Novels]]
* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', Junpei was childhood friends with Akane but [[spoiler:is unaware that Aoi (aka Santa) is her brother.]] In the sequels, Sigma and Diana don't know that [[spoiler:Phi is their daughter, but due to alternate universe and time travel shenanigans they technically don't become her parents until one of the bad endings in ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma''.]]

[[AC:Western Animation]]
* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'', Miguel spends most of the movie unaware that [[spoiler:Hector is his great-great-grandfather.]]
* ''Disney/MeetTheRobinsons'': It isn't until the start of the third act that Lewis discovers that Wilbur Robinson [[spoiler: will be his son]].

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