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Removing the gulf war note from the Punisher\'s background, as this is the comic book version not the film one, which doesn\'t fit in this trope.


** In the 2004 film, it was the GulfWar.

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** In With Punisher, he has died and come back to life twice (once when he became the 2004 film, it was Angel-Punisher, and once with the GulfWar.Frankencastle scenario), with both returns de-aging him (the Angels wanting him to suffer more and the process naturally aiding his health respectively).

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*** That's yet another case of {{Flanderization}} on the part of the TropeNamer. In the 1990 episode "Simpson and Delilah", Burns tells Homer that he's 81 years old, which would place his birth date in 1908 at the earliest. He then shows Homer some old photos of him in college, and the 1920s look to the pictures would have been plausible for an 81-year-old man who probably would have graduated from college in 1930 or so. Burns's age was then exaggerated in later seasons, so that by the mid-'90s Burns was telling people that he went to a college reunion in 1939, met his old sweetheart, discovered she had a young adult daughter, took her to see ''GoneWithTheWind'', and then had sex with her and fathered a bastard child (his then-fiftysomething son, Larry). In order for all of that to have been possible (and to avoid being {{Squick}}-inducing), Burns would have had to have been born in the 1890s or possibly earlier.

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*** That's yet another case of {{Flanderization}} on the part of the TropeNamer. In the 1990 episode "Simpson and Delilah", Burns tells Homer that he's 81 years old, which would place his birth date in 1908 at the earliest. He then shows Homer some old photos of him in college, and the 1920s look to the pictures would have been plausible for an 81-year-old man who probably would have graduated from college in 1930 or so. Burns's age was then exaggerated in later seasons, so that by the mid-'90s Burns was telling people that he went to a college reunion in 1939, met his old sweetheart, discovered she had a young adult daughter, took her (the daughter) to see ''GoneWithTheWind'', ''GoneWithTheWind'' and then to a history museum, and then had sex with her inside one of the museum's exhibits and fathered a bastard child (his then-fiftysomething son, Larry). In order for all of that to have been possible (and to avoid being {{Squick}}-inducing), Burns would have had to have been born in the 1890s or possibly earlier. earlier.
** Waylon Smithers, Burns's manservant, was originally supposed to have been born in 1954, which would make him a year or two older than Homer originally was. However, a much later episode that flashes back to TheSeventies shows him as a baby.
** Marge's mother, Jacqueline, once said that she was arrested for indecent exposure in 1923. But going by the original time frame of the series, Jacqueline couldn't have been born any earlier than about 1915 - and it's hard to imagine an 8-year-old getting arrested for public indecency, even back in the day.
** Homer's mother protested against biological weapons testing in TheSixties, but - again, going by the series's original continuity - she would have been well into her thirties by that time and probably wouldn't have been trusted by the younger radicals.
** In the recent episode "The Color Yellow", Bart and Lisa discover that [[spoiler: their great-great-great-great grandfather was a black slave named Virgil who escaped to Canada in the 1850s]]. Going by the current time frame that fits (Virgil would most likely have been in his twenties then), but by the series's original continuity Virgil could conceivably have been their great-great-''great'' grandfather - thus making Bart and Lisa [[spoiler: one thirty-second black instead of one sixty-fourth]]!
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** And even more so when you listen to the full lyrics and realize that the titular hotel can be taken as an allegorical version of Hell.
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*** That's yet another case of {{Flanderization}} on the part of the TropeNamer. In the 1990 episode "Simpson and Delilah", Burns tells Homer that he's 81 years old, which would place his birth date in 1908 at the earliest. He then shows Homer some old photos of him in college, and the 1920s look to the pictures would have been plausible for an 81-year-old man who probably would have graduated from college in 1930 or so. Burns's age was then exaggerated in later seasons, so that by the mid-'90s Burns was telling people that he went to a college reunion in 1939, met his old sweetheart, discovered she had a young adult daughter, took her to see ''GoneWithTheWind'', and then had sex with her and fathered a bastard child (his then-fiftysomething son, Larry). In order for all of that to have been possible (and to avoid being {{Squick}}-inducing), Burns would have had to have been born in the 1890s or possibly earlier.
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** Around the time of the Woodstock festival, being a "hippie" was (paradoxically) starting to become quite fashionable, and [[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan many magazines aimed at younger teenagers who were still too young to truly rebel encouraged them to wear the stereotypically hippie clothes]]. It's quite plausible that many of these kids identified themselves as hippies, even if they did not yet understand exactly what the hippie lifestyle entailed. As for "being at Woodstock," well, anyone can lie.
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* [[SimpsonsComics Radioactive Man]] started out fighting Nazis in the 1940s (as his Golden Age counterpart, "Radio Man"), but by the time he was finally reunited with his long-lost parents in 1996, he was still only about 25 years old rather than the 80-something years he should have been by that point - and, of course, his mother and father would most likely have been centenarians ''at the youngest'', but in 1996 they were still middle-aged. RM briefly [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this: "Gee, I've been in my twenties for a long time. No wonder I never get any birthday presents."
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** Maybe they're [[NewAgeRetroHippie New Age Retro Hippies]].
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* In ''Something Fresh'', PGWodehouse stated that Lord Emsworth had been at Eton in the 'Sixties (that is, the Eighteen-Sixties). Assuming he was as young as possible (13) in the very last year of the decade (1869), this would still mean that he would have been 122 years old at the time of the publication of the last book, ''Sunset at Blandings'' in 1978.

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* In ''Something Fresh'', the first Literature/BlandingsCastle novel, PGWodehouse stated that Lord Emsworth had been at Eton in the 'Sixties (that is, the Eighteen-Sixties). Assuming he was as young as possible (13) in the very last year of the decade (1869), this would still mean that he would have been 122 years old at the time of the publication of the last book, ''Sunset at Blandings'' in 1978.

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* DickTracy, astonishingly, still occasionally makes reference to fighting Nazi spies like Prune Face and the Brow during the second World War.



* Inverted in {{Doonesbury}}, which does not use a sliding timescale: every character ages in real time, EXCEPT for Uncle Duke, who has been around 45 years old since the 1970's. None of the other characters seem to have noticed this, and it's never been explained.
* {{Curtis}}'s father still hates all the "rap stuff" the title character likes, despite by current standards he should have grown up on hip hop.
* Similarly, Jeremy's parents in {{Zits}} are firmly children of the sixties; this gets harder and harder to reconcile as time goes by (his mother would have had to have given birth to him in her mid to late 40s by now).


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* DickTracy, astonishingly, still occasionally makes reference to fighting Nazi spies like Prune Face and the Brow during the second World War.
* Inverted in {{Doonesbury}}, which does not use a sliding timescale: every character ages in real time, EXCEPT for Uncle Duke, who has been around 45 years old since the 1970's. None of the other characters seem to have noticed this, and it's never been explained.
* {{Curtis}}'s father still hates all the "rap stuff" the title character likes, despite by current standards he should have grown up on hip hop.
* Similarly, Jeremy's parents in {{Zits}} are firmly children of the sixties; this gets harder and harder to reconcile as time goes by (his mother would have had to have given birth to him in her mid to late 40s by now).
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** Montgomery Burns has Victorian-era memories that would have made him absurdly old when the show began.
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* Again, 1969: "Summer of '69" by BryanAdams was written by two people. Jim Vallence wrote a nostalgic piece that was going to be just called "The Best Days Of My Life" until someone looked at a line and said ThrowItIn. The piece was always going to have that nostalgic tone (with some GettingCrapPastTheRadar with the line "me and my baby in a [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean 69]]) but the audience ages and attitudes would change slowly. Bryan Adams on the other hand, has now started stating that the '69 was always meant to be about the sexual position with it meant to be bleedingly obvious. This feels a bit more like a shoehorn to keep the lyrics relevant and make it a justified RefugeeFromTime.

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* Again, 1969: "Summer of '69" by BryanAdams was written by two people. Jim Vallence wrote a nostalgic piece that was going to be just called "The Best Days Of My Life" until someone looked at a line and said ThrowItIn. The piece was always going to have that nostalgic tone (with some GettingCrapPastTheRadar with the line "me and my baby in a [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean 69]]) '69") but the audience ages and attitudes would change slowly. Bryan Adams on the other hand, has now started stating that the '69 was always meant to be about the sexual position with it meant to be bleedingly obvious. This feels a bit more like a shoehorn to keep the lyrics relevant and make it a justified RefugeeFromTime.
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* Kind of related, though song lyrics can't normally be updated: the song ''Hotel California'' becomes even creepier as the time period implied by "We haven't had that spirit here since 1969" increases.
* Again, 1969: ''Summer of '69'' by Bryan Adams was written by two people. Jim Vallence wrote a nostalgic piece that was going to be just called "The Best Days Of My Life" until someone looked at a line and said ThrowItIn. The piece was always going to have that nostalgic tone (with some GettingCrapPastTheRadar with the line "me and my baby in a [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean 69]]) but the audience ages and attitudes would change slowly. Bryan Adams on the other hand, has now started stating that the '69 was always meant to be about the sexual position with it meant to be bleedingly obvious. This feels a bit more like a shoehorn to keep the lyrics relevant and make it a justified RefugeeFromTime.

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* Kind of related, though song lyrics can't normally be updated: the song ''Hotel California'' [[{{Eagles}} "Hotel California"]] becomes even creepier as the time period implied by "We haven't had that spirit here since 1969" increases.
* Again, 1969: ''Summer "Summer of '69'' '69" by Bryan Adams BryanAdams was written by two people. Jim Vallence wrote a nostalgic piece that was going to be just called "The Best Days Of My Life" until someone looked at a line and said ThrowItIn. The piece was always going to have that nostalgic tone (with some GettingCrapPastTheRadar with the line "me and my baby in a [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean 69]]) but the audience ages and attitudes would change slowly. Bryan Adams on the other hand, has now started stating that the '69 was always meant to be about the sexual position with it meant to be bleedingly obvious. This feels a bit more like a shoehorn to keep the lyrics relevant and make it a justified RefugeeFromTime.
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* Over in the DCUniverse, the JusticeSociety always fought in WWII (although some of it's more popular members, such as Superman or WonderWoman, have been retconned out in various ways), so usually there is a plot device to have had them not age in the decades between the end of the war and the beginning of the "modern" age. This sometimes causes problems in regards to their non-super supporting cast.
** Only a problem PostCrisis (when they were placed into the same sliding-timeline-only universe as their JLA cohorts). PreCrisis, the JSA members all aged in real time on Earth-Two (while Earth-One, like the current DCU, has a sliding timescale). Thus, Earth-Two's Batman and Catwoman had a daughter in the late 50s, who grew to adulthood by the 70s stories she debuted in.

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* Over in the DCUniverse, the JusticeSociety always fought in WWII (although some of it's more popular members, such as Superman Comicbook/{{Superman}} or WonderWoman, have been retconned out in various ways), so usually there is a plot device to have had them not age in the decades between the end of the war and the beginning of the "modern" age. This sometimes causes problems in regards to their non-super supporting cast.
** Only a problem PostCrisis (when they were placed into the same sliding-timeline-only universe as their JLA cohorts). PreCrisis, the JSA members all aged in real time on Earth-Two (while Earth-One, like the current DCU, has a sliding timescale). Thus, Earth-Two's Batman {{Batman}} and Catwoman Comicbook/{{Catwoman}} had a daughter in the late 50s, who grew to adulthood by the 70s stories she debuted in.in. As the {{Huntress}}.
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* CaptainAmerica will always be a result of the WWII SuperSoldier program. The time he was trapped in the ice in the Atlantic will just become longer.
* ThePunisher is always a Vietnam Vet no matter how many years have passed. NickFury is likewise always a WWII vet, but he got some SuperSoldier Serum-Lite (an annual injection of the Infinity Formula) that keeps him biologically the same age. (Referring to the main MarvelComics universe.)

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* CaptainAmerica will always be a result of the WWII WorldWarII SuperSoldier program. The time he was trapped in the ice in the Atlantic will just become longer.
* ThePunisher is always a [[TheVietnamWar Vietnam Vet Vet]] no matter how many years have passed. NickFury is likewise always a WWII vet, but he got some SuperSoldier Serum-Lite (an annual injection of the Infinity Formula) that keeps him biologically the same age. (Referring to the main MarvelComics universe.)
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** And the Vietnam veteran Seymour Skinner.
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** Don Rosa fixed this problem, at least in his own comics, by establishing that all his McDuck comics take place during the late 1940's and early 50's. Thus Scrooge could very well have taken part in the gold rushes as a young man. Some other McDuck authors follow this, but others ignore it and set their stories in the present.

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** Don Rosa fixed this problem, at least in his own comics, by establishing that all his McDuck [=McDuck=] comics take place during the late 1940's and early 50's. Thus Scrooge could very well have taken part in the gold rushes as a young man. Some other McDuck [[DisneyDucksComicUniverse McDuck]] authors follow this, but others ignore it and set their stories in the present.
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Occasionally a significant cultural event will become such an important marker that its appearance in fiction seems to completely detach it from the normal timeline and have it follow around any character it can find. Woodstock would have to have been held within a [[DoctorWho Tardis]] to cover all the fictional characters that have claimed to be there. Wars are another matter. Rather unfortunately the regular appearance of wars give writers the chance to continuously update their veteran characters.

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Occasionally a significant cultural event will become such an important marker that its appearance in fiction seems to completely detach it from the normal timeline and have it follow around any character it can find. Woodstock would have to have been held within a [[DoctorWho Tardis]] [[Series/DoctorWho TARDIS]] to cover all the fictional characters that have claimed to be there. Wars are another matter. Rather unfortunately the regular appearance of wars give writers the chance to continuously update their veteran characters.
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** The problem of Magneto's ''children''--who were born relatively early in his life, and yet continue to be young adults--is never ever brought up. It's for the best, really.
*** Well, Magneto's ''first'' children died when they were still children; that's part of his StartOfDarkness. The age of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch might eventually become a problem, but can be conveniently avoided so far. Quicksilver's hair is prematurely white as a consequence of his {{Super Speed}}, and the Scarlet Witch has {{Reality Warper}} powers, so maybe she'll continue to look youngish for a long time. Also, Xavier and Magneto's history before they created their rival teams is intrinsic to their characters, but being the same age is not. They could have met when Xavier was 20 and Magneto was 40. The problem with this is that eventually it will require Magneto to have had an anti-aging treatment before even becoming Magneto.
** In the UltimateMarvel universe, Magneto ''isn't'' a Holocaust survivor, and it changes his character quite a bit: he's much less of a WellIntentionedExtremist and much closer to a CompleteMonster. In the movies, he is played by IanMcKellen, who, born in 1939, is just barely old enough to be plausible as a Holocaust survivor.
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Dates the entry somewhat. Unless it\'s \"always\" going to be questionable ten years from now.


* In TheSimpsons you have Grandpa Simpson who will always be a World War 2 vet. In another 10 seasons this might start to raise more questions.

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* In TheSimpsons ''TheSimpsons'' you have Grandpa Grampa Simpson who will always be a World War 2 vet. In another 10 seasons this might start to raise more questions.II vet.
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** There's also the idea that {{Toon}}s as a species are immortal and don't go through a human life cycle, of course unless that is a part of their "act," if you will.
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* In TheSimpsons you have Grandpa Simpson who will always be a World War 2 vet. In another 10 seasons this might start to raise more questions.
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** Only a problem PostCrisis (when they were placed into the same sliding-timeline-only universe as their JLA cohorts). PreCrisis, the JSA members all aged in real time on Earth-Two (while Earth-One, like the current DCU, has a sliding timescale). Thus, Earth-Two's Batman and Catwoman had a daughter in the late 50s, who grew to adulthood by the 70s stories she debuted in.


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* On ''SouthPark'', a flashback in one episode showed Stan's mother and father as having been to Woodstock in their youths, while other episodes show Stan's uncle Jimbo was a Vietnam War vet. Meanwhile, Stan (and his older sister [[TheBrute Shelly]]) are perpetual children/pre-teens, which makes this problematic as time goes on (or not, given the bizarre nature of their world).
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* Over in the DCUniverse, the JusticeSociety always fought in WWII (although some of it's more popular members, such as Superman or WonderWoman, have been retconned out in various ways), so usually there is a plot device to have had them not age in the decades between the end of the war and the beginning of the "modern" age. This sometimes causes problems in regards to their non-super supporting cast.
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* {{Curtis}}'s father still hates all the "rap stuff" the title character likes, despite by current standards he should have grown up on hip hop.
* Similarly, Jeremy's parents in {{Zits}} are firmly children of the sixties; this gets harder and harder to reconcile as time goes by (his mother would have had to have given birth to him in her mid to late 40s by now).
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** In the UltimateMarvel universe, Magneto ''isn't'' a Holocaust survivor, and it changes his character quite a bit: he's much less of a WellIntentionedExtremist and much closer to a CompleteMonster. In the movies, he is played by Ian McKellen, who, born in 1939, is just barely old enough to be plausible as a Holocaust survivor.

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** In the UltimateMarvel universe, Magneto ''isn't'' a Holocaust survivor, and it changes his character quite a bit: he's much less of a WellIntentionedExtremist and much closer to a CompleteMonster. In the movies, he is played by Ian McKellen, IanMcKellen, who, born in 1939, is just barely old enough to be plausible as a Holocaust survivor.

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*** Well, Magneto's ''first'' children died when they were still children; that's part of his StartOfDarkness. The age of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch might eventually become a problem, but can be conveniently avoided so far. Quicksilver's hair is prematurely white as a consequence of his {{Super Speed}}, and the Scarlet Witch has {{Reality Warper}} powers, so maybe she'll continue to look youngish for a long time. Also, Xavier and Magneto's history before they created their rival teams is intrinsic to their characters, but being contemporaries is not. They could have met when Xavier was 20 and Magneto was 40. The problem with this is that eventually it will require Magneto to have had an anti-aging treatment before even becoming Magneto.

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*** Well, Magneto's ''first'' children died when they were still children; that's part of his StartOfDarkness. The age of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch might eventually become a problem, but can be conveniently avoided so far. Quicksilver's hair is prematurely white as a consequence of his {{Super Speed}}, and the Scarlet Witch has {{Reality Warper}} powers, so maybe she'll continue to look youngish for a long time. Also, Xavier and Magneto's history before they created their rival teams is intrinsic to their characters, but being contemporaries the same age is not. They could have met when Xavier was 20 and Magneto was 40. The problem with this is that eventually it will require Magneto to have had an anti-aging treatment before even becoming Magneto.Magneto.
** In the UltimateMarvel universe, Magneto ''isn't'' a Holocaust survivor, and it changes his character quite a bit: he's much less of a WellIntentionedExtremist and much closer to a CompleteMonster. In the movies, he is played by Ian McKellen, who, born in 1939, is just barely old enough to be plausible as a Holocaust survivor.
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* ThePunisher is always a Vietnam Vet no matter how many years have passed. NickFury is likewise always a WWII vet, but he got some SuperSoldier Serum-Lite that keeps him biologically the same age. (Referring to the main MarvelComics universe.)

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* ThePunisher is always a Vietnam Vet no matter how many years have passed. NickFury is likewise always a WWII vet, but he got some SuperSoldier Serum-Lite (an annual injection of the Infinity Formula) that keeps him biologically the same age. (Referring to the main MarvelComics universe.)
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** Don Rosa fixed this problem, at least in his own comics, by establishing that all his McDuck comics take place during the late 1940's and early 50's. Thus Scrooge could very well have taken part in the gold rushes as a young man. Some other McDuck authors follow this, but others ignore it and set their stories in the present.


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* Inverted in {{Doonesbury}}, which does not use a sliding timescale: every character ages in real time, EXCEPT for Uncle Duke, who has been around 45 years old since the 1970's. None of the other characters seem to have noticed this, and it's never been explained.
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*** Well, Magneto's ''first'' children died when they were still children; that's part of his StartOfDarkness. The age of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch might eventually become a problem, but can be conveniently avoided so far. Quicksilver's hair is prematurely white as a consequence of his {{Super Speed}}, and the Scarlet Witch has {{Reality Warper}} powers, so maybe she'll continue to look youngish for a long time.

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*** Well, Magneto's ''first'' children died when they were still children; that's part of his StartOfDarkness. The age of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch might eventually become a problem, but can be conveniently avoided so far. Quicksilver's hair is prematurely white as a consequence of his {{Super Speed}}, and the Scarlet Witch has {{Reality Warper}} powers, so maybe she'll continue to look youngish for a long time. Also, Xavier and Magneto's history before they created their rival teams is intrinsic to their characters, but being contemporaries is not. They could have met when Xavier was 20 and Magneto was 40. The problem with this is that eventually it will require Magneto to have had an anti-aging treatment before even becoming Magneto.
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**In the 2004 film, it was the GulfWar.

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