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* In ''Film/StarWars - Film/ANewHope,'' Luke Skywalker tries to persuade Han Solo to help in the upcoming battle and also exchanges words with friends from Tatooine before going into battle.

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* In ''Film/StarWars ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars - Film/ANewHope,'' A New Hope]]'', Luke Skywalker tries to persuade Han Solo to help in the upcoming battle and also exchanges words with friends from Tatooine before going into battle.



* Lampooned in the ''Film/StarWars'' parody webcomic ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', in the same pre-battle scene as the film.

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* Lampooned in the ''Film/StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' parody webcomic ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', in the same pre-battle scene as the film.
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* In ''Theatre/HenryV'' by Creator/WilliamShakespeare, Harry overhears some of his men doing this.
* Shows up in ''Literature/TheIliad'' several times.
* Both ''Literature/{{Safehold}}'' and ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' by David Weber couldn't be complete without main (or just [=POV=]) characters exchanging some banter before the battle. There's enough of those in the former to support a drinking game.
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* The conversation between Lafayette and Theatre/{{Hamilton}} just before the eponymous battle in "Yorktown" is remarkably calm, considering the fact that this is Hamilton's first time leading troops.
* "Drink With Me" in ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' is the revolutionaries getting one last bittersweet hurrah before they are [[spoiler:slaughtered by the French army the next morning]]. The majority of it is lighthearted banter and reminiscing until Grantaire reminds them that, not only will they likely die, there deaths will be pointless.

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* The conversation between Lafayette In ''Theatre/HenryV'' by Creator/WilliamShakespeare, Harry overhears some of his men doing this.
* Shows up in ''Literature/TheIliad'' several times.
* Both ''Literature/{{Safehold}}''
and Theatre/{{Hamilton}} ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' by David Weber couldn't be complete without main (or just [=POV=]) characters exchanging some banter before the eponymous battle battle. There's enough of those in "Yorktown" is remarkably calm, considering the fact that this is Hamilton's first time leading troops.
* "Drink With Me" in ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' is the revolutionaries getting one last bittersweet hurrah before they are [[spoiler:slaughtered by the French army the next morning]]. The majority of it is lighthearted banter and reminiscing until Grantaire reminds them that, not only will they likely die, there deaths will be pointless.
former to support a drinking game.



[[folder:Web Comics]]
* Lampooned in the ''Film/StarWars'' parody webcomic ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', in the same pre-battle scene as the film.
* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', before the siege of Azure City Haley [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0417.html attempts this]]. O-chul is not impressed.

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* Lampooned in Much of the ''Film/StarWars'' parody webcomic ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', in final episode, "Goodbyeee", of the same pre-battle scene as the film.
* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', before the siege
fourth season of Azure City Haley [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0417.html attempts this]]. O-chul is not impressed.''Series/{{Blackadder}}''.



[[folder:Video Games]]
* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', there's a scene just before the final push where Shepard can share banter with just about anyone who's still alive. Much of it overlaps with ItHasBeenAnHonor.
* The ''Suikoden'' games show montages of the various characters in conversation the night before the anticipated big battle.'
* ''Franchise/FireEmblem''
** There's quite a few ribbings to be had in the early pre-battle segments of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', both hero and villain alike. Anything to do with villains Victor and Vincent, for example, has a fair deal of banter before the battle actually commences.

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* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', there's a scene The conversation between Lafayette and Theatre/{{Hamilton}} just before the final push where Shepard can share eponymous battle in "Yorktown" is remarkably calm, considering the fact that this is Hamilton's first time leading troops.
* "Drink With Me" in ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' is the revolutionaries getting one last bittersweet hurrah before they are [[spoiler:slaughtered by the French army the next morning]]. The majority of it is lighthearted
banter with just about anyone who's still alive. Much of it overlaps with ItHasBeenAnHonor.
* The ''Suikoden'' games show montages of the various characters in conversation the night before the anticipated big battle.'
* ''Franchise/FireEmblem''
** There's quite a few ribbings to be had in the early pre-battle segments of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', both hero
and villain alike. Anything to do with villains Victor and Vincent, for example, has a fair deal of banter before the battle actually commences.reminiscing until Grantaire reminds them that, not only will they likely die, there deaths will be pointless.


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[[folder:Web Comics]]
* Lampooned in the ''Film/StarWars'' parody webcomic ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', in the same pre-battle scene as the film.
* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', before the siege of Azure City Haley [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0417.html attempts this]]. O-chul is not impressed.
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[[folder:Video Games]]
* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', there's a scene just before the final push where Shepard can share banter with just about anyone who's still alive. Much of it overlaps with ItHasBeenAnHonor.
* The ''Suikoden'' games show montages of the various characters in conversation the night before the anticipated big battle.'
* ''Franchise/FireEmblem''
** There's quite a few ribbings to be had in the early pre-battle segments of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', both hero and villain alike. Anything to do with villains Victor and Vincent, for example, has a fair deal of banter before the battle actually commences.
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->''The pre-battle scene where fellow combatants bond over the prospect of the danger and terror to come is a standard part of building the suspense in a story. Try devoting some time to it in a game, rather than rushing straight into the combat.''
-->'''TheRant''', ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'' [[http://darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0882.html #882]]
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This trope does not apply to the official briefing before the battle, although it may apply to banter exchanged between fighters during the briefing.

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This trope does not apply to the official briefing before the battle, or any MissionBriefing, although it may apply to banter exchanged between fighters during the briefing.
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* The conversation between Lafayette and Theatre/{{Hamilton}} just before the eponymous battle in "Yorktown" is remarkably calm, considering the fact that this is Hamilton's first time leading troops.
* "Drink With Me" in ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' is the revolutionaries getting one last bittersweet hurrah before they are [[spoiler:slaughtered by the French army the next morning]]. The majority of it is lighthearted banter and reminiscing until Grantaire reminds them that, not only will they likely die, there deaths will be pointless.
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* Lampoonded in ''Film/HotShotsPartDeux'': before they parachute into enemy territory, Rabinowitz tells Topper what he's going to do when the mission is over

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* Lampoonded Lampooned in ''Film/HotShotsPartDeux'': before they parachute into enemy territory, Rabinowitz tells Topper what he's going to do when the mission is overover
* A standout example is found in ''Film/SavingPrivateRyan'' with the conversations of the soldiers waiting for the German attack on their bridge.
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', before the siege of Azure City Haley [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0417.html attempts this]]. O-chul is not impressed.
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* In ''Film/StarWars'' - A New Hope, Luke Skywalker tries to persuade Han Solo to help in the upcoming battle and also exchanges words with friends from Tatooine before going into battle.

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* In ''Film/StarWars'' ''Film/StarWars - A New Hope, Film/ANewHope,'' Luke Skywalker tries to persuade Han Solo to help in the upcoming battle and also exchanges words with friends from Tatooine before going into battle.

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* The ''Suikoden'' games show montages of the various characters in conversation the night before the anticipated big battle.

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* The ''Suikoden'' games show montages of the various characters in conversation the night before the anticipated big battle.'
* ''Franchise/FireEmblem''
** There's quite a few ribbings to be had in the early pre-battle segments of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', both hero and villain alike. Anything to do with villains Victor and Vincent, for example, has a fair deal of banter before the battle actually commences.
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* Lampooned in the ''Film/StarWars'' parody webcomic ''DarthsAndDroids'', in the same pre-battle scene as the film.

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* Lampooned in the ''Film/StarWars'' parody webcomic ''DarthsAndDroids'', ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', in the same pre-battle scene as the film.
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* Lampoonded in the second ''Film/{{Hot Shots}}'' movie: before they parachute into enemy territory, Rabinowitz tells Topper what he's going to do when the mission is over

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* Lampoonded in the second ''Film/{{Hot Shots}}'' movie: ''Film/HotShotsPartDeux'': before they parachute into enemy territory, Rabinowitz tells Topper what he's going to do when the mission is over
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* Both ''Literature/{{Safehold}}'' and ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' by David Weber couldn't be complete without main (or just [=POV=]) characters exchanging some banter before the battle. There's enough of those in the former to support a drinking game.
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* In ''Theatre/HenryV'' by WilliamShakespeare, Harry overhears some of his men doing this.

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* In ''Theatre/HenryV'' by WilliamShakespeare, Creator/WilliamShakespeare, Harry overhears some of his men doing this.
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* The ''Suikoden'' games show montages of the various characters in conversation the night before the anticipated big battle.

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-->Captain Wilder: You scared, man?
-->Captain Hiller: No. You?
-->Captain Wilder: No. (mock fear) Hold me!
-->Captain Hiller: Hey, pay attention!

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-->Captain Wilder: -->'''Captain Wilder''': You scared, man?
-->Captain Hiller:
man?\\
'''Captain Hiller''':
No. You?
-->Captain Wilder:
You?\\
'''Captain Wilder''':
No. (mock fear) Hold me!
-->Captain Hiller:
me!\\
'''Captain Hiller''':
Hey, pay attention!



-->Captain Wilder: Let's kick the tires and light the fires, big daddy!
-->Captain Wilder: ...As the Good Reverend would say: [switches to Southern preacher voice] Why we are on this particular mission, we'll never know. But I do know, here today, that the Black Knights will emerge victorious once again.

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-->Captain Wilder: -->'''Captain Wilder''': Let's kick the tires and light the fires, big daddy!
-->Captain Wilder: ...
daddy!\\
'''Captain Wilder''':
As the Good Reverend would say: [switches [''switches to Southern preacher voice] voice''] Why we are on this particular mission, we'll never know. But I do know, here today, that the Black Knights will emerge victorious once again.



-->Hudson: Ready to get it on? You know it!
-->Hudson: I'm ready, man! Ready to get it on!
-->Hudson: We're on an express elevator to hell! Going down!

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-->Hudson: -->'''Hudson''': Ready to get it on? You know it!
-->Hudson:
it! I'm ready, man! Ready to get it on!
-->Hudson:
on! We're on an express elevator to hell! Going down!



-->Ripley: How many drops is this for you, Lieutenant?
-->Lt. Gorman: 38. Simulated.
-->Ripley: How many combat drops?
-->Lt. Gorman: Uh, two..including this one.
-->Other Marines: [roll their eyes]

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-->Ripley: -->'''Ripley''': How many drops is this for you, Lieutenant?
-->Lt. Gorman: 38. Simulated.
-->Ripley:
Lieutenant?\\
'''Lt. Gorman''': Thirty-eight... simulated.\\
'''Pvt. Vasquez''':
How many combat drops?
-->Lt. Gorman:
drops?\\
'''Lt. Gorman''':
Uh, two..two... including this one.
-->Other Marines: [roll
one.\\
'''Other Marines''': [''roll
their eyes]eyes'']



-->Frost: [[GutFeeling I got a bad feeling about this drop]].
-->Crowe: You always say "I got a bad feeling about this drop".
-->Frost: OK, OK. When we get back without you, I'll call your folks.

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-->Frost: -->'''Frost''': [[GutFeeling I got a bad feeling about this drop]].
-->Crowe:
drop]].\\
'''Crowe''':
You always say "I got a bad feeling about this drop".
-->Frost: OK, OK.
drop".\\
'''Frost''': Okay, okay.
When we get back without you, I'll call your folks.



-->Gimli: Most have seen too many winters.
-->Legolas: Or too few. Look at them. They're frightened. I can see it in their eyes.

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-->Gimli: -->'''Gimli''': Most have seen too many winters.
-->Legolas:
winters.\\
'''Legolas''':
Or too few. Look at them. They're frightened. I can see it in their eyes.
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* In MassEffect3, there's a scene just before the final push where Shepard can share banter with just about anyone who's still alive. Much of it overlaps with ItHasBeenAnHonor.

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* In MassEffect3, ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', there's a scene just before the final push where Shepard can share banter with just about anyone who's still alive. Much of it overlaps with ItHasBeenAnHonor.
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* In MassEffect3, there's a scene just before the final push where Shepard can share banter with just about anyone who's still alive. Much of it overlaps with ItHasBeenAnHonor.
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* Shows up in ''Literature/TheIlliad'' several times.

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* Shows up in ''Literature/TheIlliad'' ''Literature/TheIliad'' several times.
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This trope is probably [[OlderThanTheyThink older then you think]]

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This trope is probably [[OlderThanTheyThink older then than you think]]
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* Lampoonded in the second ''Film/{{Hot Shots}}'' movie: before they parachute into enemy territory, Rabinowitz tells Topper what he's going to do when the mission is over
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* In ''Theatre/HenryV'' by William Shakespear Harry overhears some of his men doing this.

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* In ''Theatre/HenryV'' by William Shakespear WilliamShakespeare, Harry overhears some of his men doing this.
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* Lampooned in the ''Film/StarWars'' parody webcomic, Darths & Droids in the same pre-battle scene as the film.

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* Lampooned in the ''Film/StarWars'' parody webcomic, Darths & Droids webcomic ''DarthsAndDroids'', in the same pre-battle scene as the film.
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* Shows up in ''literature/TheIlliad'' several times.

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* Shows up in ''literature/TheIlliad'' ''Literature/TheIlliad'' several times.
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* In ''theatre/Henry V'' by William Shakespear Harry overhears some of his men doing this.
* Shows up in ''literature/The Illiad'' several times.

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* In ''theatre/Henry V'' ''Theatre/HenryV'' by William Shakespear Harry overhears some of his men doing this.
* Shows up in ''literature/The Illiad'' ''literature/TheIlliad'' several times.
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* In ''Play/Henry V'' by William Shakespear Harry overhears some of his men doing this.
* Shows up in ''Epic Poem/The Illiad'' several times.

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* In ''Play/Henry ''theatre/Henry V'' by William Shakespear Harry overhears some of his men doing this.
* Shows up in ''Epic Poem/The ''literature/The Illiad'' several times.
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* In ''Play/Henry V'' by William Shakespear Harry overhears some of his men doing this.
* Shows up in ''Epic Poem/The Illiad'' several times.
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* ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' - ''The Two Towers''. The scenes before the Battle of Helm's Deep, in which the men from about age 14 to 60 are equipped with musty old armour and weapons, provoking comments from the heroes, nervous chattering among the fighters, and a general air of grim anticipation.
-->Gimli: Most have seen too many winters.
-->Legolas: Or too few. Look at them. They're frightened. I can see it in their eyes.
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This trope is all about the pre-battle scene. Almost inevitably, some of the fighters will know each other from their days "on the farm" and they'll discuss "old times". Occasionally the more nervous fighters will talk about their chances of getting through the battle alive, but most of the fighters will studiously avoid that subject, as though simply talking about it will somehow call down the wrath of the gods upon them and cause them to die when they wouldn't have otherwise. Instead, the fighters will discuss "what I'm going to do after the war", as though there was no chance of them dying.

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This trope is all about the pre-battle scene. Almost inevitably, some of the fighters will know each other from their days "on the farm" and they'll discuss "old times". Occasionally the more nervous fighters will talk about their chances of getting through the battle alive, but most of the fighters will studiously avoid that subject, as though [[TemptingFate simply talking about it will somehow call down the wrath of the gods upon them them]] and cause them to die when they wouldn't have otherwise. Instead, the fighters will discuss "what I'm going to do after the war", as though there was no chance of them dying.
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"The offensive is due to begin at 1500 hours, soldiers. It's only 1030 hours now, so clean and load your weapons, draw rations from stores, polish your boots, write your goodbye letters, go visit the toilet and above all, don't forget to talk amongst yourselves about how bad you think this battle may be, whether or not it's the FinalBattle and just how stupid you think the generals are who want you to fight against such overwhelming odds."

This trope is all about the pre-battle scene. Almost inevitably, some of the fighters will know each other from their days "on the farm" and they'll discuss "old times". Occasionally the more nervous fighters will talk about their chances of getting through the battle alive, but most of the fighters will studiously avoid that subject, as though simply talking about it will somehow call down the wrath of the gods upon them and cause them to die when they wouldn't have otherwise. Instead, the fighters will discuss "what I'm going to do after the war", as though there was no chance of them dying.

If the battle is obviously a [[KnowWhenToFoldEm Lost Cause]], there may be a lot of grumbling about being ordered to become CannonFodder for no good reason, but sometimes the upcoming battle is the only choice and the fighters know it, so even though they're certain that they're going to their deaths, they feel like they may as well [[LastStand go down fighting]]. If it's a plot point, it ''will'' be discussed before the battle.

Compare to PreAsskickingOneLiner which is about a single sentence or statement before commencing a fight. Pre-Battle Banter is about a whole conversation or even several conversations before a battle while the battle may still be some hours off, but with PreAsskickingOneLiner, combat usually immediately follows the one-liner.

This trope does not apply to the official briefing before the battle, although it may apply to banter exchanged between fighters during the briefing.

This trope also does not apply if the fighters don't know that a battle is imminent, or if the battle has already begun.

Pre-Battle Banter is a specific type of ActionFilmQuietDramaScene and therefore a subtrope. Both tropes serve to increase tension and anticipation in the audience and both tropes encourage the audience to relate to the people involved in the drama, but this trope is specifically about the pre-battle scene.

Compare with LockAndLoadMontage which mainly serves to show how crazy-prepared the protagonists are.
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* In ''Film/StarWars'' - A New Hope, Luke Skywalker tries to persuade Han Solo to help in the upcoming battle and also exchanges words with friends from Tatooine before going into battle.
* ''Film/IndependenceDay''.
** During the briefing before the first attack on one of the invaders' ships, Marine pilots Wilder and Hiller joke around.
-->Captain Wilder: You scared, man?
-->Captain Hiller: No. You?
-->Captain Wilder: No. (mock fear) Hold me!
-->Captain Hiller: Hey, pay attention!
** Later on, when they're at the flight line Captain Wilder continues.
-->Captain Wilder: Let's kick the tires and light the fires, big daddy!
-->Captain Wilder: ...As the Good Reverend would say: [switches to Southern preacher voice] Why we are on this particular mission, we'll never know. But I do know, here today, that the Black Knights will emerge victorious once again.
* ''Film/{{Aliens}}'' during the DropShip landing sequence.
** Hudson starts things off.
-->Hudson: Ready to get it on? You know it!
-->Hudson: I'm ready, man! Ready to get it on!
-->Hudson: We're on an express elevator to hell! Going down!
** Ripley asks some pointed questions.
-->Ripley: How many drops is this for you, Lieutenant?
-->Lt. Gorman: 38. Simulated.
-->Ripley: How many combat drops?
-->Lt. Gorman: Uh, two..including this one.
-->Other Marines: [roll their eyes]
** Frost and Crowe discuss their feelings.
-->Frost: [[GutFeeling I got a bad feeling about this drop]].
-->Crowe: You always say "I got a bad feeling about this drop".
-->Frost: OK, OK. When we get back without you, I'll call your folks.
** In a deleted scene, Hudson gives a BadassBoast about him and the other Marines which is pure TemptingFate. Watch it [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHYGgOXww48 here]].
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[[folder:Web Comics]]
* Lampooned in the ''Film/StarWars'' parody webcomic, Darths & Droids in the same pre-battle scene as the film.
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