History Main / PopCultureIsolation

* E! network host Sal Masekela noted in an interview with JayZ that entertainment news media, and tabloids generally don't cover black celebrities. But quite frankly black celebs should probably see that as a blessing in disguise.

** This is arguably true of most Black comedians, or hell most comedians since they tend to only be popular within a certain niche (women, college students, blacks, latinos, asians, other ethnicities, etc.)

** Hip-Hop somewhat had this bad. If you're not a hardcore meticulous HipHop connoisseur who actively seek out artists on your own you probably missed out on a lot of regional acts. As radio from each region had different and diverse play lists. So whomever was popular in in the Northeast might not be as popular in the Southwest. For better or for worse it's different now though, as most stations tend to follow a ''VERY'' strict play list. And for the most part they're more or less the same around the country. Likely because most radio stations are corporate own now instead of privately owned.

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* [[strike:A good deal of]] Nearly all {{Anime}} and {{Manga}}, outside ''SailorMoon'', ''SpeedRacer'' and the like, is [[strike: not well known]] completely unknown outside the fanbase.
* This even shows up within manga fandom itself. Creators like NaokiUrasawa and Fumi Yoshinaga (of AntiqueBakery fame) have multiple series published in the US, constantly appear on "best of" lists, and have won tons of awards - yet are virtually unknown outside of the "grown-up comic fans" circle.
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** Hilariously demonstrated by FoxNews when LL Cool J demanded to have a pre-recorded interview dropped out of a program hosted by Sarah Palin. In an apparent TakeThat, one of the network anchors, referencing his role in the popular ''NCISLosAngeles'', [[TakeThat probably the only time most of FoxNew's audience would have ever seen him acting]], said there was no hard feelings and wished him well "in his fledgling acting career". LL Cool J had, at that point, been acting in film and TV for nearly a quarter of a century.

** Sade's black fan base didn't come till the ''Love Delux'' album which had a deep urban groove to it (excluding ''No Ordinary Love''). And the ones who were/are put off by here music are likely refering to her 80's material which wasn't that R&B-ish at all. At least not when compared to the likes of Vandross, Anita (the closest your gonna get), and Teddy etc..

** Arguably Sade is a bad example as they always had broad appeal, considering their musical genre was always very vague and safe (not a knock on them of course). Primarily sorta kinda Adult Contemporary R&B/Soul mixed with sorta kinda contemporary jazz, Adult Contemporary, and soft rock. Although it's hard to believe they would have appealed to the white mainstream as a whole if her music was straight forward R&B/Soul. they do count in other ways though, for instance opinions on their music within the black/urban community is very mixed/nuanced. Some hold them to the same high esteem as other great black artists, while others see them as "Someone who white people listen to". The reason for this is likely GenreRoulette, the band always leaned more towards A/C, and soft rock more than they do R&B/Soul, and contemporary R&B despite the latter being a significant part of their repertoire. Another example is how adult contemporary R&B stations' Sade play list (that's if they play Sade at all) is completely different from A/C, Soft Rock stations' Sade play list.

* Robyn had a "urban mix" for ''Do You Really Want Me'' for urban radio stations. She also counts in another way in that some think she's a new artist, but she's been around since the late 90's. The aforementioned son being released in 98.

** Arguably Sade is a bad example as they always had broad appeal, considering their musical genre was always very vague. Primarily sorta kinda Adult Contemporary R&B/Soul mixed with sorta kinda contemporary jazz, Adult Contemporary, and soft rock.

* Steve Harvey is a very popular black comedian in the black community but not too many people out side of that even know he exists. He arguably may have overcome this due to his sitcom, and appearing in ''The Kings of Comedy''.

* Grunge was very popular among young white youth. But young Blacks and Latinos for the most part was somewhat oblivious to it. The Lalapalooza tour helped bridged the gap a little.

* During a documentary about the rise of techno and the whole Detroit scene. One guy was discussing the backlash against Disco around that time. He said there was a barn fire where people was standing in a line throwing in disco records (Now if your GenreSavvy enough you know where this is leading). He began to notice that most of what their burning [[UnfortunateImplications isn't disco, but just black music in general]]. He said he saw one guy with a MarvinGaye record in his hand. This is also a double example as around this time Techno was only thriving in the midwest.
** On a similar note how many urban black people can tell you the difference between {{Aerosmith}} and AliceInChains. Keep in mind rock is almost none existent on black radio, So the popularity of these bands probably flew over their heads (unless you include the general mainstream media which is biased toward rock anyway). Or how about the fact some blacks got into rock thanks to bands like FaithNoMore, and LivingColour during the late 80's, and NuMetal during the late 90's and early zeros due to them incorporating Hip-Hop, Funk and rhythm?, or Soulful vocals in Corey Glover's case (myself included, but i was also introduced to classic rock at an early age thanks to my uncle). There's also the fact that some suburban whites can't tell you the difference between BoneThugsNHarmony and RUN-DMC. To outsiders rap music might as well all be the same.

* {{Superman}}, {{Batman}}, WonderWoman, {{Spider-Man}}, the FantasticFour, {{X-Men}} (at least {{Wolverine}} and possibly Cyclops) and TheIncredibleHulk are the only superhero exceptions to this trope. Even then, the only of their supporting cast to be generally known by people are TheJoker, Robin, Lois Lane, and possibly LexLuthor and {{Catwoman}}.

* {{Superman}}, {{Batman}}, WonderWoman, {{Spider-Man}}, the FantasticFour, {{X-Men}} (at least Wolverine and possibly Cyclops) and TheIncredibleHulk are the only superhero exceptions to this trope. Even then, the only of their supporting cast to be generally known by people are TheJoker, Robin, Lois Lane, and possibly Lex Luthor and Catwoman.

*** If they are 30 and older, they knew about him. 50 and older also know Captain Marvel, or at least [[IAmNotShazam "Shazam"]].

* The popularity of several cult actors, at most they'll likely just be HeyItsThatGuy! But in certain circles they're as popular as Tom Cruise, and Will Smith. A few Examples are....
** Bruce Campbell

* MTV was also the cause of this, So much so MTV refused to acknowledge that 90% of the songs on the chart were by black singers and kept trying to push a next Big White Hope like Winger or Warrant. There was such an embarrassing disconnect between their Top 20 played videos and the billboard charts back then. DavidBowie [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesomely]] called them out for it during a interview with the network. They eventually caved in with the meteoric rise of MichaelJackson though.
** TheNineties version of MTV subverted this trope though. by Basically not putting music in a box, or programming block (Yo! MTV Raps, 120, and Headbanger's Ball being the exceptions). On the other hand this might be why they started putting music in a programming block and eventually stopped showing vids all together circa early 00's. Simply put nobody was gonna wade through rap vids to see a rock vid and vice versa, And nobody was gonna wade through pop vids to see a Urban/R&B vid, or wade through Alt/Roc vid to see a METAL vid.
* The popularity of ''{{Martin}}''. [=VH1=]'s ''I Love the '90s'' actually brought up that the show was virtually unknown to white viewers, in part because it was scheduled against ''{{Seinfeld}}''.

* During a documentary about the rise of techno and the whole Detroit scene. One guy was discussing the backlash against Disco around that time. He said there was a barn fire where people was standing in a line throwing in disco records (Now if your GenreSavvy enough you know where this is leading). He began to notice that most of what their burning [[UnfortunateImplications isn't disco, But just black music in general]]. He said he saw one guy with a MarvinGaye record in his hand. This is also a double example as around this time Techno was only thriving in the midwest.

** QueenLafiah said if it wasn't for rappers like {{NWA}} she wouldn't have known what life was like in south central LA.

* When Eminem's third album ''The Eminem Show'' was released, two different singles were promoted at the same time on different genre stations. "White America" was mostly played on the rock stations, while "Cleaning out my Closet" was played on hip-hop stations.

* There's a lot of guitarists out there who are revered and recognized and put on a lot of top guitarists list. Guitarists like Steve Vai, Eddie Van Halen, etc. But you'll be hard pressed to see people like [[LivingColour Vernon Reid]], and [[TheIsleyBrothers Ernie Isley]] mentioned, or listed though. Exceptions being the politically correct choice of Jimi Hendrix, and MAYBE Eddie Hazel...maybe.

* A lot of Internet culture and memes cause this.

* [[strike: football]] Soccer of course.

* Games in general.
* GTA's radio stations are a great example of this. Some of the dj's even take shots at the other stations.

** The event is now mainstream enough that fans of things like Twilight and the Micheal Bay Transformers movies are crowding out everyone else's events just by camping seats for their own later in the day. Actual comics are crowded in towards the back.

*** Some of these actors/models/actresses careers can be chalked up to a combination of this trope, HeyItsThatGuy, CriticalDissonance, HypeBacklash, and ICouldaBeenAContender all rolled up into one. Usually in that order too.

* Kristen Bell. As above.

* Lowrider mags, vs custom car mags (like DUB magazine), sport tuner car mags, and American muscle car mags. there's over lap but their somewhat significantly separated. Plus each scene has it's own car culture, and preference of female models. Mags like DUB almost always have black girls AND Hispanic females, where as the lowrider mags is more or less exclusively Hispanic, the tuner mags are almost always southeast Asian, and the muscle car mags are almost always white.

* There's alot of guitarists out there whom are revered and recognized and put on a lot of top guitarists list. Guitarists like Steve Vai, Eddie Vanhalen, etc. But you'll be hard pressed to see people like [[LivingColour Vernon Reid]], and [[TheEisleyBrothers Ernie Isley]] mentioned, or listed though. Exceptions being the politically correct choice of JimiHendrix, and MAYBE Eddie Hazel...maybe.

* This trope possibly explain the sub-culture division among 40 somethings, when it comes to black music. In the beginning when hip-hop was in it's infancy in the early eighties only a hand full of 20 somethings was caught up in the culture of HipHop. While the majority of the other 20 somethings was still into the post disco/R&B new wave funk scene. This explains the cultural Schism of 40 something African Americans regarding the hip-hop culture, and why you have 40 something hip-hopers and hip-hop artists, and 40 somethings whom are outside the culture, despite being young adults around the genre's inception.

** Hip-Hop somewhat had this bad. If your not a hardcore meticulous HipHop connoisseur who actively seek out artists on your own you probably missed out on a lot of regional acts. As radio from each region had different and diverse play lists. So whomever was popular in in the Northeast might not be as popular in the Southwest. For better or for worse it's different now though, as most stations tend to follow a ''VERY'' strict play list. And for the most part they're more or less the same around the country. Likely because most radio stations are corporate own now instead of privately owned.

** They're attractiveness is what help them get noticed in the first place despite being D-Listers. Case in point Jaime King pre-SinCity. You'd be hard press to find someone in the mainstream who knew who she was. But Maxim magazine and people on the internet did. Interestingly enough she hasn't done anything mainstream since. Likewise with Emmanuelle Vaugier prior to {{CSINY}}.

** On a similar note how many urban black people can tell you the difference between {{Aerosmith}} and AliceInChains. Keep in mind rock is almost none existent on black radio, So the popularity of these bands probably flew over their heads (unless you include the general mainstream media which is biased toward rock anyway). Or how about the fact some blacks got into rock thanks to bands like FaithNoMore, and LivingColour during the late 80's, and NuMetal during the late 90's and early zeros due to them incorporating Hip-Hop, Funk and rhythm?, or Soulful vocals in Corey Glover's case (myself included, but i was also introduced to classic rock at an early age thanks to my uncle). There's also the fact that some suburban whites can't tell you the difference between BoneThugsNHarmony and RUN-DMC. To outsiders rap music might as well all be the same..SoYeah.
*** There's always a segment of Black people with a vested interest in rock music. Where did it originate? SoYeah

* Quite a few white people appear to be unaware of the ButNotTooBlack controversy. Ironic since every daytime talk show known to man from Ricky lake to Jenny Jones to Tyra Banks has covered this issue.
** Inversely a lot of black people think this issue is only seen within the Black community, But it's very prominent in Asian and Hispanic communities as well.

* The popularity of {{Martin}}

**TheNineties version of MTV subverted this trope though. by Basically not putting music in a box, or programming block (Yo! MTV Raps, and Headbanger's Ball being the exceptions). On the other hand this might be why they started putting music in a programming block and eventually stopped showing vids all together circa early 00's. Simply put nobody was gonna wade through rap vids to see a rock vid and vice versa, And nobody was gonna wade through pop vids to see a Urban/R&B vid, or wade through Alt/Roc vid to see a METAL vid.