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* [[AdaptationInducedPlotHole While adapting a story to a new medium]], the adaption team made a wrong assumption about a future plot point, and added a detail which was later contradicted by the creator of the source material (Compare OvertookTheManga). ANother one is [AdaptationExplanationExtrication removal of the explanation for a plot element]] without which the plot element doesn't make sense.

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* [[AdaptationInducedPlotHole While adapting a story to a new medium]], the adaption team made a wrong assumption about a future plot point, and added a detail which was later contradicted by the creator of the source material (Compare OvertookTheManga). ANother Another one is [AdaptationExplanationExtrication removal of the explanation for a plot element]] without which the plot element doesn't make sense.

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* [[AdaptationInducedPlotHole While adapting a story to a new medium]], the adaption team made a wrong assumption about a future plot point, and added a detail which was later contradicted by the creator of the source material (Compare OvertookTheManga).
** Or, they [[AdaptationExplanationExtrication removed the explanation for a plot element]], without which the plot element doesn't make sense.

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* [[AdaptationInducedPlotHole While adapting a story to a new medium]], the adaption team made a wrong assumption about a future plot point, and added a detail which was later contradicted by the creator of the source material (Compare OvertookTheManga).
** Or, they [[AdaptationExplanationExtrication removed
OvertookTheManga). ANother one is [AdaptationExplanationExtrication removal of the explanation for a plot element]], element]] without which the plot element doesn't make sense.

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First person zap. That is, the use of 'I', 'me', 'my', 'This Troper', and 'this editor' is not desired in the main wiki.


** I do remember reading somewhere, that the T-1000 was coated in a microscopic layer of organic tissue that disintegrated on re-entry. So that's a possible Handwave I guess, though a little far out.
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** I do remember reading somewhere, that the T-1000 was coated in a microscopic layer of organic tissue that disintegrated on re-entry. So that's a possible Handwave I guess, though a little far out.
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Can overlap with {{Retcon}} and ContinuitySnarl.

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ContinuitySnarl. A CliffhangerCopout can ''create'' a PlotHole if a HandWave is handled extremely poorly.

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Mob: Jail isn't some kind of alternate dimension. One call to a lawyer who transfers a message to the Joker, and wham. Harvey: Post-action chaos.


* In The Dark Knight, the mob is somehow able to hire the Joker despite being under arrest. Also, Harvey Dent willingly gets in a car driven by a cop he believes to be corrupt. Rachel forgets about Bruce saving her life several times and attacks him for not being heroic.
** In ''BatmanBegins'', the BigBad's plot is to disperse a fear drug by lacing the water supply with it and turning all of it to steam at once with a stolen MacGuffin. Notwithstanding the large amount of water present in every human body (which would boil everyone alive), how come nobody noticed this drug before when they took a hot shower or boiled water while cooking?

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* In The Dark Knight, the mob is somehow able to hire the Joker despite being under arrest. Also, Harvey Dent willingly gets in a car driven by a cop he believes to be corrupt. Rachel forgets about Bruce saving her life several times and attacks him for not being heroic.
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In ''BatmanBegins'', the BigBad's plot is to disperse a fear drug by lacing the water supply with it and turning all of it to steam at once with a stolen MacGuffin. Notwithstanding the large amount of water present in every human body (which would boil everyone alive), how come nobody noticed this drug before when they took a hot shower or boiled water while cooking?
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**For God's sake, the butler outright SAYS he heard him say it, both the first time after trashing the room and just before he dies. He simply doesn't appear in the film to say so until the end.
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*** Explained by Salvation, as the USAF purchased Cyberdyne Systems after the events of T2, but before T3, therefore allowing them to make use of any research data left. This could therefore become FridgeBrilliance, as the possibility of there being undestroyed copies of the research Cyberdyne did on the Terminator's arm and chip means that at the end of T2, our heroes hadn't actually destroyed ''all'' the research, and had merely set-back SkyNet's development, which meant that T3 was correct when it said that you couldn't fight fate, instead of the "No Fate but What We Make" angle that T1 & T2 took, [[AustinPowers and oh no, I've gone cross-eyed...]]
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** In ''BatmanBegins'', the BigBad's plot is to disperse a fear drug by lacing the water supply with it and turning all of it to steam at once with a stolen MacGuffin. Notwithstanding the large amount of water present in every human body (which would boil everyone alive), how come nobody noticed this drug before when they took a hot shower or boiled water while cooking?

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** Before Christopher can put his plan into action, van de Merve knocks him unconscious and steals the ship. We don't really know what Plan A was other than in vague terms.

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** Before Christopher can put his plan into action, van de Merve knocks him unconscious and steals the ship. We don't really know what Plan A was other than in vague terms.]]
**They needed the magic black goop to give the ship enough power to [[spoiler:fly into range of the tractor beam, as well as to actually be able to talk to the mothership.
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** [=TFwiki=] appears to imply the opposite - that it was intended as a sequel to Armada/Energon but that the Japanese broadcasters decided to market it as a reboot. Although thus was also later {{retcon}}ned away and it's now part of the Unicron Trilogy in Japan...

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** [=TFwiki=] appears to imply the opposite - that it was intended as a sequel to Armada/Energon but that the Japanese broadcasters decided to market it as a reboot. Although thus was also later {{retcon}}ned [[Retcon retconned]] away and it's now part of the Unicron Trilogy in Japan...



*** Santa's magic make you think you bought those things. It also makes you pay for them. Magic!

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*** Santa's magic make you think you bought those things. It also makes you pay for them. Magic!Magic!
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** The general fanwank explanation is that Wily just hasn't pissed Mega Man off as much.
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** Batteries store energy, they don't generate it. Presumably this is where "a form of fusion" comes in to play. It still doesn't explain how they FEED all of those people.
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** [[WildMassGuessing Once the skies were blackened, the Machines once built for the humans' utility learned to power themselves with irony]].
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* In the ''TinyToons'' MadeForTVMovie ''How I Spent My Summer Vacation'', Buster and Babs return to Acme Acres via a literal "plot hole." Lampshaded again in a travel episode, where a set of luggage is devoured by Dizzy Devil, but reappears later. Babs pronounces it to be "A plot hole big enough to drive a Mack truck through!" While falling through the plot hole in the movie, Babs says "I had been wondering how those hack writers were going to wrap this up."

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* In the ''TinyToons'' MadeForTVMovie ''How I Spent My Summer Vacation'', Buster and Babs return to Acme Acres via a literal "plot hole." Lampshaded again in a travel episode, where a set of luggage is devoured by Dizzy Devil, but reappears later. Babs pronounces it to be "A plot hole big enough to drive a Mack truck through!" While falling through the plot hole in the movie, Babs says [[WhoWritesThisCrap "I had been wondering how those hack writers were going to wrap this up.""]]
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** If memory serves, doesn't Richelieu issue him a ''commission''? (Which is what makes it a BittersweetEnding: he now outranks his three best friends, and they'll never be able to hang out as equals any more. Ah Richelieu, you MagnificentBastard...)


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** [[FanWank Naturally of course, "clothing" in those days meant outer clothing; while underclothes, generally referred to as "linens", had a number of pockets. It was the norm to change your "linens" every day, and Crusoe's embarrassment at being unable to do so prevents him from referring to his increasingly grubby drawers throughout the book.]] ([[OverlyLongGag Compare the treatment of Hetty's pregnancy]] in ''Adam Bede'', where the fact that she's missed her period is never actually spelled out but is absolutely obvious to modern readers.)
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** [[TheyJustDidntCare An unethical prosecutor]] ([[CompleteMonster *coughMikeNifong*]]) might not worry about such technicalities as exonerating evidence, and an incompetent defense attorney might not notice. One of these days someone will write [[CapeFear a fanfic where Kimble is sentence to life with parole, and comes back for revenge against his clueless defender...]]
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*** And the second one might be handwaved when we remember that the Internet was ''designed'' as a communications network that could survive a nuclear war. Certainly, Skynet would lose an awful lot of nodes and be badly damaged... [[FridgeBrilliance which is why John Connor could beat it, and why it attempted the stupid, hopeless time-travel gambit in the first place.]]
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** The T-800 said that Judgment Day was inevitable, not the outcome of the subsequent war.
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So, if its not unreasonable, why is it a plot hole?


* ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'':
** The episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" has the Enterprise-C time-jump to an alternate "present", where the Federation and Klingon Empires have been at constant war for decades. It turns out that the Enterprise-C saved a Klingon outpost from a Romulan attack, thus opening the way for peace talks between the two governments. ''Star Trek VI'', which came out the next year, shows that the groundwork for Klingon-Federation peace came about during Kirk's time as a result of the disaster on Praxis. It's not unreasonable to suppose that diplomatic relations may have deteriorated somewhat in the fifty years between ''Star Trek VI'' and the loss of the Enterprise-C.
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** And Skynet was explicitly said to have been "built by Cyberdyne for Sagnoriad [sp?] systems". The Skynet of T3 was built by a different company altogether because Cyberdyne was destroyed in T2. Really, there are more such plot holes in T3 than it would be practical to list in their entirety here. The general attitude of the film seemed to be, "Fuck the earlier films and fuck continuity."

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** And Skynet was explicitly said to have been "built for SAC/NORAD (Strategic Air Command/North American Aerospace Defense Command) by Cyberdyne for Sagnoriad [sp?] systems".Systems". The Skynet of T3 was built by a different company altogether because Cyberdyne was destroyed in T2. Really, there are more such plot holes in T3 than it would be practical to list in their entirety here. The general attitude of the film seemed to be, "Fuck the earlier films and fuck continuity."

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* One episode of ''BenTen'' has the trio go to a Florida amusement park. The episode's plot kicks off when Ben and Max are splashed by a dunk tank, which causes them to become younger (the tank's water came from the Fountain of Youth). There is no explanation as to why the dunk tank operator (one of Ponce De Leon's crew, who guards the fountain) brought said water to an amusement park.



* In ''ThePenguinsOfMadagascar'' episode "Otter Gone Wild," Marlene the otter (who has gone wild) is captured by a giant cage falling out of nowhere. King Julien asks "Uh... where did that cage come from?" Kowalski replies, "Sorry, that's classified information."
* In one episode of "Ed Edd N Eddy" (Knock Knock, Who's Ed) the three are searching the cul-de-sac for a television to watch a monster movie on after Sarah kicks them out of Ed's place, at one point double D asks why they don't watch it at his own or eddy's house eddy replies with "what and ruin the plot?"

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* In ''ThePenguinsOfMadagascar'' episode "Otter Gone Wild," a feral Marlene the otter (who has gone wild) is captured by a giant cage falling out of nowhere. King Julien asks "Uh... where did that the cage come from?" came from. Kowalski replies, "Sorry, replies that that's classified information."
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* In one One episode of "Ed Edd N Eddy" (Knock Knock, Who's Ed) EdEddNEddy has the three are searching the cul-de-sac for a television to watch a monster movie marathon on after Sarah kicks them out of Ed's place, at place. At one point double D point, Edd asks why they don't just watch it at his own or eddy's house eddy replies with "what and Eddy's house.
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Recharge the shields with what? While they were in the time dilation field, they didn't have access to any other sources of energy than what they were using.


** In the series finale, the [[CoolStarship Odyssey]] has been upgraded with [[TheGreys Asgard]] weapons and other technology [[spoiler:since the Asgard just committed mass suicide]]. The Ori are tracking them using the energy signature it gives off. They then use a [[spoiler:time dilation field]] to hide out for 70 years or so and avoid the final destructive attack. Why not just recharge their shields and destroy the Ori ship?
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** Also worth noting, however, is that that plan would have been no better.
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** According to TheOtherWiki, "Aglae" is a genus of South American bees...okay, that's not so likely a source, but they're apparently named after an ancient Greek word for "beauty". And ''that'' just might make sense as a nick- or pen name...
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** If we're willing to concede that T3 is ''correct'' in stating that YouCantFightFate, then the first hole at least actually goes away. In that case, Skynet and the resistance fight because they're destined to, and there's nothing either side can do about that.
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** In the series finale, the [[CoolStarship Odyssey]] has been upgraded with [[TheGreys Asgard]] weapons and other technology [[spoiler:since the Asgard just committed mass suicide]]. The Ori are tracking them using the energy signature it gives off. They then use a [[spoiler:time dilation field]] to hide out for 70 years or so and avoid the final destructive attack. Why not just recharge their shields and destroy the Ori ship?
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* ''CodeGeass''' first season has some, mixed with FridgeLogic most of the time. As an example: It's never explained how did C.C., Euphie and Kallen get to the desert island where Zero and Suzaku are after Zero uses his Geass to [[spoiler:tell Suzaku to ''live'', making him flee from the {{BFG}} strike]], or why did Zero and Suzaku even got there, or why are them all separated.

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* ''CodeGeass''' first season has some, mixed with FridgeLogic most of the time. As an example: It's never explained how did C.C., Euphie and Kallen get to the desert island where Zero and Suzaku are after Zero uses his Geass to [[spoiler:tell Suzaku to ''live'', making him flee from the {{BFG}} strike]], or why did Zero and Suzaku even got there, or why are them all separated.
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** Or, they [[AdaptationExplanationExtrication removed the explanation for a plot element]], without which the plot element doesn't make sense.
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**It always bugged me too the thing with the ring. Why be so incredibly stupid that you can't figure out that maybe the ring won't flush? Why be so completely irrational after planning something for so long? And why didn't she CHECK to see if it had washed away? Come to think of it why didn't she tell her swimming partners or teatcher that she was planning to run away from her psychotic husband? She could have called them and said "Hey do not tell my batass crazy hubby I took swimming lessons m'kay?"

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