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If prisoners of these groups get locked up together with mainstream criminals, they might be beat up in a PrisonRiot, become the victim of PrisonRape (a kind of KarmicRape for sexual offenders), or even killed, murdered, typically with a SinisterShiv.
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* In ''Theatre/TheLaramieProject'', one of the characters mentions that Aaron [=McKinney=] and Brian Henderson, the perpetrators of the murder of Matthew Shepard, were not very well-received by their fellow inmates.
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* In Nazi concentration camps, the prisoners most despised by other prisoners were [[ValuesDissonance the homosexuals]] and the [[ThoseWackyNazis NSDAP members]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma got sent there]].
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* In Nazi concentration camps, the prisoners most despised by other prisoners were [[ValuesDissonance the homosexuals]] and the [[ThoseWackyNazis NSDAP members]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma former Nazis that fell out of Hitler's favor and got sent there]].there.
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* This is the fate of [[spoiler:Superintendent Pendrew]] in ''Videogame/SleepingDogs''. Wei is given evidence that confirms him as the killer of [[TheDon Uncle Po]], meaning that he's not just going away as an [[spoiler:ex-cop]], but also the man who killed one of the underworld's most-respected figures.
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* This is the fate of [[spoiler:Superintendent Pendrew]] in ''Videogame/SleepingDogs''. Wei is given evidence that confirms him as the [[spoiler:the killer of [[TheDon Uncle Po]], Po]]]], meaning that he's not just going away as an [[spoiler:ex-cop]], but also the [[spoiler:the man who killed one of the underworld's most-respected figures.figures]].
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* It isn't just pedophiles:
** Inmates on Retained Jurisdiction, or "riders" are being given a probationary sentence by a judge and are not officially in the custody of a Department of Corrections. They are only slightly higher than child molesters in the prison hierarchy.
** Civil Commitments have been declared mentally incapable of living in society by a judge and have not been convicted of a crime. They are people who would have been in a state hospital in the 50's, but are often held in prisons due to a lack of mental health facilities. Mental health offenders often require special attention, but Civil Commits are extreme cases.
** Inmates on Retained Jurisdiction, or "riders" are being given a probationary sentence by a judge and are not officially in the custody of a Department of Corrections. They are only slightly higher than child molesters in the prison hierarchy.
** Civil Commitments have been declared mentally incapable of living in society by a judge and have not been convicted of a crime. They are people who would have been in a state hospital in the 50's, but are often held in prisons due to a lack of mental health facilities. Mental health offenders often require special attention, but Civil Commits are extreme cases.
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** These are not always intentionally made. When inmates have to be separated after a conflict, it's obvious that the aggressor cannot be put around other at-risk inmates, so he will probably end up around other dangerous inmates. Over time, this creates pockets of at-risk inmates that serve as unofficial "PC" units.
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* ''Series/PrisonBreak'': When Brad Bellick is framed for murder and sentenced to 20 years imprisonment, he has the bright idea to get a sentence at the same prison where he used to be the captain of the guard, thinking that his old status will grant him protection by his former colleagues. It backfires because the new hardline Warden is adament about no privileges being accorded to anyone, so he quickly becomes a target for reprisals.
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* ThePunisher once visited a not-quite LuxuryPrisonSuite where it was mentioned that the occupants made use of guys with toothless mouths who knew how to use them, considered the lowest of the low.
** Frank himself is generally put into solitary after a while, as the first thing he does when he's in prison is kill a few inmates, whether they come after him for vengeance or street cred.
* PlayedForLaughs in ''ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumLivingHell'', in which Warren White pleads insanity to escape going to prison for white-collar crimes -- only to discover that in Arkham, home of any number of psychotic murderers, scamming people out of their money makes him ''even more hated than SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker''.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' when Rorschach is captured and put in prison, other prisoners plan to kill him for his vigilante activities, but he turns the tables on them. "I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
* ThePunisher once visited a not-quite LuxuryPrisonSuite where it was mentioned that the occupants made use of guys with toothless mouths who knew how to use them, considered the lowest of the low.
** Frank himself is generally put into solitary after a while, as the first thing he does when he's in prison is kill a few inmates, whether they come after him for vengeance or street cred.
* PlayedForLaughs in ''ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumLivingHell'', in which Warren White pleads insanity to escape going to prison for white-collar crimes -- only to discover that in Arkham, home of any number of psychotic murderers, scamming people out of their money makes him ''even more hated than SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker''.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' when Rorschach is captured and put in prison, other prisoners plan to kill him for his vigilante activities, but he turns the tables on them. "I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
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* ThePunisher once visited a not-quite LuxuryPrisonSuite where it was mentioned that the occupants made use of guys with toothless mouths who knew how to use them, considered the lowest of the
** Frank himself is generally put into solitary after a while, as the first thing he does when he's in prison is kill a few inmates, whether they come after him for vengeance or street
* PlayedForLaughs in ''ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumLivingHell'', in which Warren White pleads insanity to escape going to prison for white-collar crimes -- only to discover that in Arkham, home of any number of psychotic murderers, scamming people out of their money makes him ''even more hated than
* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' when Rorschach is captured and put in prison, other prisoners plan to kill him for his vigilante activities, but he turns the tables on them. "I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me.
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* Part of the motive rant of the villain in ''Film/TheBoneCollector'' is that he was a former cop who was thrown in prison.
-->"Do you know what happens to a cop in prison? You are brutalised every single day over and over... you become a human toilet."
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* At the end of the ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' episode "Stress Position", Goren manages to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath shame each of the corrupt prison guards]] who killed the VictimOfTheWeek (and are trying to make another witness suffer an "accident") into turning themselves in. The leader tries to stop the first to back down by warning them he'll face this trope; [[HeelRealisation he says he'll do his time in solitary]].
* In ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prison has a separate small wing to house inmates who used to work in law enforcement to protect them from other prisoners.
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'', police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
* On ''Series/MyNameIsEarl'', Randy (who has just become a prison guard) brings in a new prisoner, and introduces him as a first-time prisoner, a convicted child molester, and a former police officer to the other inmates.
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* In ''Theatre/TheLaramieProject'', one of the characters mentions that Aaron [=McKinney=] and Brian Henderson, the perpetrators of the murder of Matthew Shepard, were not very well-received by their fellow inmates.
* The 1974 play ''ShortEyes'' by Miguel Piñero (Obie Award, Drama Desk Award, Tony Nomination, made into a film) is about an accused child molester in prison. Nearly all the other inmates turn on him for his crime. The term "Short Eyes" is prison slang for a pedophile.
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* Invoked in ''VideoGame/MirrorsEdge'': one of the reasons Faith is so adamant about [[ClearTheirName clearing her cop sister Kate's name]] before she stands trial is that "blues in jail don't last long", as she tells Captain Miller.
* ''Series/BetterCallSaul''. Mike says that cops [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison more than death]].
* At the end of the ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' episode "Stress Position", Goren manages to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath shame each of the corrupt prison guards]] who killed the VictimOfTheWeek (and are trying to make another witness suffer an "accident") into turning themselves in. The leader tries to stop the first to back down by warning them he'll face this trope; [[HeelRealisation he says he'll do his time in solitary]].
* In ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prison has a separate small wing to house inmates who used to work in law enforcement to protect them from other prisoners.
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'', police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
* On ''Series/MyNameIsEarl'', Randy (who has just become a prison guard) brings in a new prisoner, and introduces him as a first-time prisoner, a convicted child molester, and a former police officer to the other inmates.
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* In ''Theatre/TheLaramieProject'', one of the characters mentions that Aaron [=McKinney=] and Brian Henderson, the perpetrators of the murder of Matthew Shepard, were not very well-received by their fellow inmates.
* The 1974 play ''ShortEyes'' by Miguel Piñero (Obie Award, Drama Desk Award, Tony Nomination, made into a film) is about an accused child molester in prison. Nearly all the other inmates turn on him for his crime. The term "Short Eyes" is prison slang for a pedophile.
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* Invoked in ''VideoGame/MirrorsEdge'': one of the reasons Faith is so adamant about [[ClearTheirName clearing her cop sister Kate's name]] before she stands trial is that "blues in jail don't last long", as she tells Captain Miller.
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* ''Series/BetterCallSaul''. Mike says that cops [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison more than
* At the end of the ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' episode "Stress Position", Goren manages to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath shame each of the corrupt prison guards]] who killed the VictimOfTheWeek (and are trying to make another witness suffer an "accident") into turning themselves in. The leader tries to stop the first to back down by warning them he'll face this trope; [[HeelRealisation he says he'll do his time in
* In ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prison has a separate small wing to house inmates who used to work in law enforcement to protect them from other
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'', police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing
* On ''Series/MyNameIsEarl'', Randy (who has just become a prison guard) brings in a new prisoner, and introduces him as a first-time prisoner, a convicted child molester, and a former police officer to the other
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* The 1974 play ''ShortEyes'' by Miguel Piñero (Obie Award, Drama Desk Award, Tony Nomination, made into a film) is about an accused child molester in prison. Nearly all the other inmates turn on him for his crime. The term "Short Eyes" is prison slang for a
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* ''VideoGame/PrisonArchitect''. A constant concern. Snitches and ex-cops need to get into a segregated
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* Many prison services have segregated units for vulnerable prisoners.
* There are a few UrbanLegends around of EvenEvilHasStandards where prisoners murder newly-arrived pedophiles.
* Many prison services have segregated units for vulnerable prisoners.
* There are a few UrbanLegends around of EvenEvilHasStandards where prisoners murder newly-arrived pedophiles.
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* Pedophile priest John Geoghan was murdered by Joseph Druce, who was serving a life sentence for murder (and now serving a [[LongerThanLifeSentence second life sentence]] for Geoghan's death). It was suggested at the time that Druce killed Geoghan to gain prestige in the prison hierarchy.
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* Pedophile priest John Geoghan was murdered by Joseph Druce, who was serving a life sentence for murder (and now serving a [[LongerThanLifeSentence second life sentence]] for Geoghan's death). It was suggested at the time that Druce killed Geoghan to gain prestige in the prison hierarchy.hierarchy.
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* The song "Date Rape" by Sublime tells a story of a man who rapes a girl he meets in a bar, goes to jail, and [[PrisomRape [[PrisonRape is in turn raped himself]], [[LaserGuidedKarma in a sort of poetic justice]].
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-->-- ''[[http://www.vice.com/read/why-sex-offenders-are-getting-slaughtered-in-california-prisons-218 Why Are So Many Sex Offenders Getting Murdered in California's Prisons?]], '''Vice'''
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-->-- ''[[http://www.vice.com/read/why-sex-offenders-are-getting-slaughtered-in-california-prisons-218 Why Are So Many Sex Offenders Getting Murdered in California's Prisons?]], Prisons?]]'', '''Vice'''
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Mainstream criminals have [[BlackandGrayMorality a morality scale on their own]]. Many of them despise the police and prison crews (including [[DirtyCop officers sentenced to prison]]), [[TheInformant snitches]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual offenders]] (especially [[PaedoHunt child rapists]]), and sexual or racial minorities. TruthInTelevision featured in many works of fiction.
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Mainstream criminals have [[BlackandGrayMorality [[BlackAndGrayMorality a morality scale on of their own]]. Many of them despise the police and prison crews (including [[DirtyCop officers sentenced to prison]]), [[TheInformant snitches]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual offenders]] (especially [[PaedoHunt child rapists]]), and sexual or racial minorities. TruthInTelevision featured in many works of fiction.
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* PlayedForLaughs in ''ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumLivingHell'', in which Warren White pleads insanity to escape going to prison for white-collar crimes - only to discover that in Arkham, home of any number of psychotic murderers, scamming people out of their money makes him even more hated than SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' when Rorschach is captured and put in prison other prisoners plan to kill him for his vigilante activities, but he turns the tables on them. "I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
* Serial killer [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} Cletus Kasady]] usually gets a cell of his own due to possessing a carnivorous alien parasite and being more than happy to use it to kill anyone and everyone in his vicinity. When separated from it in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', he was re-introduced into the general populace in an attempt to rehabilitate him. The other prisoners treated him with contempt and one of them - who had been hired by his therapist - shanked him. After the symbiote returned, Cletus returned the favor.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' when Rorschach is captured and put in prison other prisoners plan to kill him for his vigilante activities, but he turns the tables on them. "I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
* Serial killer [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} Cletus Kasady]] usually gets a cell of his own due to possessing a carnivorous alien parasite and being more than happy to use it to kill anyone and everyone in his vicinity. When separated from it in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', he was re-introduced into the general populace in an attempt to rehabilitate him. The other prisoners treated him with contempt and one of them - who had been hired by his therapist - shanked him. After the symbiote returned, Cletus returned the favor.
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* PlayedForLaughs in ''ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumLivingHell'', in which Warren White pleads insanity to escape going to prison for white-collar crimes - -- only to discover that in Arkham, home of any number of psychotic murderers, scamming people out of their money makes him even ''even more hated than SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker''.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' when Rorschach is captured and put inprison prison, other prisoners plan to kill him for his vigilante activities, but he turns the tables on them. "I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
* Serial killer [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} Cletus Kasady]] usually gets a cell of his own due to possessing a carnivorous alien parasite and being more than happy to use it to kill anyone and everyone in his vicinity. When separated from it in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', he was re-introduced into the general populace in an attempt to rehabilitate him. The other prisoners treated him with contempt and one of them- -- who had been hired by his therapist - -- shanked him. After the symbiote returned, Cletus returned the favor.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' when Rorschach is captured and put in
* Serial killer [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} Cletus Kasady]] usually gets a cell of his own due to possessing a carnivorous alien parasite and being more than happy to use it to kill anyone and everyone in his vicinity. When separated from it in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', he was re-introduced into the general populace in an attempt to rehabilitate him. The other prisoners treated him with contempt and one of them
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* The ending of ''Film/KinjiteForbiddenSubjects'', where Duke, the main bad guy of the movie, is HoistByHisOwnPetard following his imprisonment for his sexual crimes against children.
* Matt Cordell, the eponymous character of ''Film/ManiacCop'' films, was actually a heroic figure in his heyday. But he was framed for corruption and was placed in prison together with the scum that he had helped to put away, and was constantly a target for them. He eventually got shanked so bad that it left him brain-damaged, and he became a villain who does the exact opposite of his former duty.
* ''Film/TheShawshankRedemption''. [[spoiler: When guard chief Hadley is arrested, he breaks down. Implicitly, he knows he will not only go to prison, but also together with inmates who hate him.]]
* Matt Cordell, the eponymous character of ''Film/ManiacCop'' films, was actually a heroic figure in his heyday. But he was framed for corruption and was placed in prison together with the scum that he had helped to put away, and was constantly a target for them. He eventually got shanked so bad that it left him brain-damaged, and he became a villain who does the exact opposite of his former duty.
* ''Film/TheShawshankRedemption''. [[spoiler: When guard chief Hadley is arrested, he breaks down. Implicitly, he knows he will not only go to prison, but also together with inmates who hate him.]]
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* The ending of ''Film/KinjiteForbiddenSubjects'', where Duke, the main bad guy of the movie, is HoistByHisOwnPetard following his imprisonment for his sexual crimes against children. \n It is heavily implied that PrisonRape ensues.
* Matt Cordell, the eponymous character of the ''Film/ManiacCop'' films, was actually a heroic figure in his heyday. But he was framed for corruption and was placed in prison together with the scum that he had helped to put away, and was constantly a target for them. He eventually got shanked so bad that it left him brain-damaged, and he became a villain who does the exact opposite of his former duty.
* ''Film/TheShawshankRedemption''.[[spoiler: When [[spoiler:When guard chief Hadley is arrested, he breaks down. Implicitly, he knows he will not only go to prison, but also together with inmates who hate him.]]
* Matt Cordell, the eponymous character of the ''Film/ManiacCop'' films, was actually a heroic figure in his heyday. But he was framed for corruption and was placed in prison together with the scum that he had helped to put away, and was constantly a target for them. He eventually got shanked so bad that it left him brain-damaged, and he became a villain who does the exact opposite of his former duty.
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* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'' police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'' police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
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* In the backstory of''Series/{{Life}}'' ''Series/{{Life}}'', police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
* In the backstory of
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* The song "Date Rape" by Sublime tells a story of a man who rapes a girl he meets in a bar, goes to jail, and [[PrisomRape is in turn raped himself, himself]], [[LaserGuidedKarma in a sort of poetic justice]].
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* Russia [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/world/europe/29prisons.html?_r=0 has special prisons]] for high ranking civil servants, such as policemen, judges and taxmen. Such inmates tend to have a rather short life expectancy in normal prisons.
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* Russia [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/world/europe/29prisons.html?_r=0 has special prisons]] for high ranking high-ranking civil servants, such as policemen, judges judges, and taxmen. Such inmates tend to have a rather short life expectancy in normal prisons.
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* The authors of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Fi_murders Hi-Fi murders]] were despised by their death row cellmates, to the point that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gilmore Gary Gilmore]], ''en route'' to the [[ShotAtDawn firing squad]], exclaimed he would see them in Hell.
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* The authors of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Fi_murders Hi-Fi murders]] were despised by their death row cellmates, to the point that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gilmore Gary Gilmore]], ''en route'' to the [[ShotAtDawn firing squad]], exclaimed [[SeeYouInHell he would see them in Hell.Hell]].
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* This is the fate of [[spoiler:Superintendent Pendrew]] in ''Videogame/SleepingDogs''. Wei is given evidence that confirms him as the killer of [[TheDon Uncle Po]], meaning that he's not just going away as an [[spoiler:ex-cop]], but also the man who killed one of the underworld's most-respected figures.
-->[[spoiler:'''Pendrew''']]: That's a fucking death sentence!
-->[[spoiler:'''Pendrew''']]: That's a fucking death sentence!
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* On ''Series/MyNameIsEarl'', Randy (who has just become a prison guard) brings in a new prisoner, and introduces him as a first-time prisoner, a convicted child molester, and a former police officer to the other inmates.
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These groups might [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison worse than death]].
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->''"He wouldn't last one week in the general population before someone shivved his ass. Everyone inside is talking about it. Of course people want to get at him."''
-->-- '''John Aitchek''', an inmate speaking about Michael Slager, the officer who shot Walter Scott
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* At the end of the ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' episode "Stress Position", Goren manages to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath shame each of the corrupt prison guards]] who killed the VictimOfTheWeek (and are trying to make another witness suffer an "accident") into turning themselves in. The leader tries to stop the first to back down by warning them he'll face this trope; [[HeelRealisation he says he'll do his time in solitary]].
* In ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prison has separate small wing to house inmates who used to work in law enforcement to protect them from other prisoners.
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'' police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
* ''Series/BetterCallSaul''. Mike says that cops [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison more than death]].
* At the end of the ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' episode "Stress Position", Goren manages to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath shame each of the corrupt prison guards]] who killed the VictimOfTheWeek (and are trying to make another witness suffer an "accident") into turning themselves in. The leader tries to stop the first to back down by warning them he'll face this trope; [[HeelRealisation he says he'll do his time in solitary]].
* In ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prison has separate small wing to house inmates who used to work in law enforcement to protect them from other prisoners.
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'' police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
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* The ending of ''[[KinjiteForbiddenSubjects Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects]]'', where Duke, the main bad guy of the movie, is HoistByHisOwnPetard following his imprisonment for his sexual crimes against children.
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* The ending of ''Film/KinjiteForbiddenSubjects'', where Duke, the main bad guy of the movie, is HoistByHisOwnPetard following his imprisonment for his sexual crimes against children.
* Matt Cordell, the eponymous character of ''Film/ManiacCop'' films, was actually a heroic figure in his heyday. But he was framed for corruption and was placed in prison together with the scum that he had helped to put away, and was constantly a target for them. He eventually got shanked so bad that it left him brain-damaged, and he became a villain who does the exact opposite of his former duty.
* ''Film/TheShawshankRedemption''. [[spoiler: When guard chief Hadley is arrested, he breaks down. Implicitly, he knows he will not only go to prison, but also together with inmates who hate him.]]
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* ''Series/BetterCallSaul''. Mike says that cops [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison more than death]].
* At the end of the ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' episode "Stress Position", Goren manages to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath shame each of the corrupt prison guards]] who killed the VictimOfTheWeek (and are trying to make another witness suffer an "accident") into turning themselves in. The leader tries to stop the first to back down by warning them he'll face this trope; [[HeelRealisation he says he'll do his time in solitary]].
* In ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prison has separate small wing to house inmates who used to work in law enforcement to protect them from other prisoners.
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'' police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
* Matt Cordell, the eponymous character of ''Film/ManiacCop'' films, was actually a heroic figure in his heyday. But he was framed for corruption and was placed in prison together with the scum that he had helped to put away, and was constantly a target for them. He eventually got shanked so bad that it left him brain-damaged, and he became a villain who does the exact opposite of his former duty.
* ''Film/TheShawshankRedemption''. [[spoiler: When guard chief Hadley is arrested, he breaks down. Implicitly, he knows he will not only go to prison, but also together with inmates who hate him.]]
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* ''Series/BetterCallSaul''. Mike says that cops [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison more than death]].
* At the end of the ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' episode "Stress Position", Goren manages to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath shame each of the corrupt prison guards]] who killed the VictimOfTheWeek (and are trying to make another witness suffer an "accident") into turning themselves in. The leader tries to stop the first to back down by warning them he'll face this trope; [[HeelRealisation he says he'll do his time in solitary]].
* In ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prison has separate small wing to house inmates who used to work in law enforcement to protect them from other prisoners.
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'' police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
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* Serial killer [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} usually gets a cell of his own due to possessing a carnivorous alien parasite and being more than happy to use it to kill anyone and everyone in his vicinity. When separated from it in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', he was re-introduced into the general populace in an attempt to rehabilitate him. The other prisoners treated him with contempt and one of them - who had been hired by his therapist - shanked him. After the symbiote returned, Cletus returned the favor.
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* Serial killer [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} Cletus Kasady]] usually gets a cell of his own due to possessing a carnivorous alien parasite and being more than happy to use it to kill anyone and everyone in his vicinity. When separated from it in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', he was re-introduced into the general populace in an attempt to rehabilitate him. The other prisoners treated him with contempt and one of them - who had been hired by his therapist - shanked him. After the symbiote returned, Cletus returned the favor.
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* Serial killer [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} usually gets a cell of his own due to possessing a carnivorous alien parasite and being more than happy to use it to kill anyone and everyone in his vicinity. When separated from it in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', he was re-introduced into the general populace in an attempt to rehabilitate him. The other prisoners treated him with contempt and one of them - who had been hired by his therapist - shanked him. After the symbiote returned, Cletus returned the favor.
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* The Nazi concentration camp inmates the most despised by other inmates were [[ValuesDissonance the homosexuals]] and the [[ThoseWackyNazis NSDAP members]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma got sent there]].
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Mainstream criminals have [[BlackandGrayMorality a morality scale on their own]]. Many of them despise the police and prison crews (including [[DirtyCop officers sentenced to prison]]), [[TheInformant snitches]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual offenders]] (especially [[PaedoHunt if they went after kids]]), and sexual or racial minorities. TruthInTelevision featured in many works of fiction.
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Mainstream criminals have [[BlackandGrayMorality a morality scale on their own]]. Many of them despise the police and prison crews (including [[DirtyCop officers sentenced to prison]]), [[TheInformant snitches]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual offenders]] (especially [[PaedoHunt if they went after kids]]), child rapists]]), and sexual or racial minorities. TruthInTelevision featured in many works of fiction.
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Mainstream criminals have [[BlackandGrayMorality a morality scale on their own]]. Many of them despise the police and prison crews (including [[DirtyCop officers sentenced to prison]]), [[TheInformant snitches]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual offenders]], offenders]] (especially [[PaedoHunt if they went after kids]]), and sexual or racial minorities. TruthInTelevision featured in many works of fiction.
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* Russia [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/world/europe/29prisons.html?_r=0 has special prisons]] for high ranking civil servants, such as policemen, judges and taxmen. Such inmates tend to have a rather short life expectancy in normal prisons.
** Supposedly, rapists and pedophiles were despised by TheMafiya-run prison gangs in older times, and tended to end up as [[PrisonRape sex]] [[IronicHell slaves]]. In modern times, this "custom", most likely, is dead.
** Supposedly, rapists and pedophiles were despised by TheMafiya-run prison gangs in older times, and tended to end up as [[PrisonRape sex]] [[IronicHell slaves]]. In modern times, this "custom", most likely, is dead.
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* The ending of ''[[KinjiteForbiddenSubjects Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects]], where Duke, the main bad guy of the movie, is HoistByHisOwnPetard following his imprisonment for his sexual crimes against children.
* Part of the motive rant of the villain in Film/TheBoneCollector is that he was a former cop who was thrown in prison.
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-->''"In prison, there is no creature lower than a sex offender. Even snitches get a pass before these guys. S-O's, chomos, pedophiles; the nicknames all mean the same thing, and they help average convicts differentiate themselves from those they like to believe are the real monsters."''
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Gaia}}'', being in prison for alleged treason causes even the other inmates to turn on you.
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-->''"In prison, there is no creature lower than a sex offender. Even snitches get a pass before these guys. S-O's, chomos, pedophiles; the nicknames all mean the same thing, and they help average convicts differentiate themselves from those they like to believe are the real monsters."''
-->--''[[http://www.vice.com/read/why-sex-offenders-are-getting-slaughtered-in-california-prisons-218 Why Are So Many Sex Offenders Getting Murdered in California's Prisons?]], '''Vice'''
->''"He wouldn't last one week in the general population before someone shivved his ass. Everyone inside is talking about it. Of course people want to get at him."''
-->--'''John Aitchek''', an inmate speaking about Michael Slager, the officer who shot Walter Scott
Mainstream criminals have [[BlackandGrayMorality a morality scale on their own]]. Many of them despise the police and prison crews (including [[DirtyCop officers sentenced to prison]]), [[TheInformant snitches]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual offenders]], and sexual or racial minorities. TruthInTelevision featured in many works of fiction.
If prisoners of these groups get locked up together with mainstream criminals, they might be beat up in a PrisonRiot, become the victim of PrisonRape (a kind of KarmicRape for sexual offenders), or even killed, typically with a SinisterShiv.
These groups might [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison worse than death]].
See also AssholeVictim and EvenEvilHasStandards.
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[[AC:ComicBooks]]
* ThePunisher once visited a not-quite LuxuryPrisonSuite where it was mentioned that the occupants made use of guys with toothless mouths who knew how to use them, considered the lowest of the low.
** Frank himself is generally put into solitary after a while, as the first thing he does when he's in prison is kill a few inmates, whether they come after him for vengeance or street cred.
* PlayedForLaughs in ''ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumLivingHell'', in which Warren White pleads insanity to escape going to prison for white-collar crimes - only to discover that in Arkham, home of any number of psychotic murderers, scamming people out of their money makes him even more hated than SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' when Rorschach is captured and put in prison other prisoners plan to kill him for his vigilante activities, but he turns the tables on them. "I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
[[AC:LiveActionTV]]
* ''Series/BetterCallSaul''. Mike says that cops [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison more than death]].
* At the end of the ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' episode "Stress Position", Goren manages to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath shame each of the corrupt prison guards]] who killed the VictimOfTheWeek (and are trying to make another witness suffer an "accident") into turning themselves in. The leader tries to stop the first to back down by warning them he'll face this trope; [[HeelRealisation he says he'll do his time in solitary]].
* In ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prison has separate small wing to house inmates who used to work in law enforcement to protect them from other prisoners.
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'' police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
[[AC:Film]]
* ''TheShawshankRedemption''. [[spoiler: When guard chief Hadley is arrested, he breaks down. Implicitly, he knows he will not only go to prison, but also together with inmates who hate him.]]
* The ending of ''[[KinjiteForbiddenSubjects Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects]], where Duke, the main bad guy of the movie, is HoistByHisOwnPetard following his imprisonment for his sexual crimes against children.
*Part of the motive rant of the villain in Film/TheBoneCollector is that he was a former cop who was thrown in prison.
-->"Do you know what happens to a cop in prison? You are brutalised every single day over and over... you become a human toilet."
[[AC:{{Music}}]]
* The song "Date Rape" by Sublime tells a story of a man who rapes a girl he meets in a bar, goes to jail, and is in turn raped himself, [[LaserGuidedKarma in a sort of poetic justice]].
[[AC:{{Theatre}}]]
* In ''Theatre/TheLaramieProject'', one of the characters mentions that Aaron [=McKinney=] and Brian Henderson, the perpetrators of the murder of Matthew Shepard, were not very well-received by their fellow inmates.
* The 1974 play ''ShortEyes'' by Miguel Piñero (Obie Award, Drama Desk Award, Tony Nomination, made into a film) is about an accused child molester in prison. Nearly all the other inmates turn on him for his crime. The term "Short Eyes" is prison slang for a pedophile.
[[AC:VideoGames]]
* ''VideoGame/PrisonArchitect''. A constant concern. Snitches and ex-cops need to get into a segregated unit.
* Invoked in ''VideoGame/MirrorsEdge'': one of the reasons Faith is so adamant about [[ClearTheirName clearing her cop sister Kate's name]] before she stands trial is that "blues in jail don't last long", as she tells Captain Miller.
[[AC:RealLife]]
* Many prison services have segregated units for vulnerable prisoners.
* There are a few UrbanLegends around of EvenEvilHasStandards where prisoners murder newly-arrived pedophiles.
* The authors of the Hi-Fi murders were despised by their death row cellmates, to the point Gary Gilmore, ''en route'' to the [[ShotAtDawn firing squad]], exclamed he would see them in Hell.
* Russia [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/world/europe/29prisons.html?_r=0 has special prisons]] for high ranking civil servants, such as policemen, judges and taxmen.
* The concentration camp inmates the most despised by other inmates were [[ValuesDissonance the homosexuals]] and the [[ThoseWackyNazis NSDAP members]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma got sent there]].
* Pedophile priest John Geoghan was murdered by Joseph Druce, who was serving a life sentence for murder (and now serving a [[LongerThanLifeSentence second life sentence]] for Geoghan's death). It was suggested at the time that Druce killed Geoghan to gain prestige in the prison hierarchy.
-->--''[[http://www.vice.com/read/why-sex-offenders-are-getting-slaughtered-in-california-prisons-218 Why Are So Many Sex Offenders Getting Murdered in California's Prisons?]], '''Vice'''
->''"He wouldn't last one week in the general population before someone shivved his ass. Everyone inside is talking about it. Of course people want to get at him."''
-->--'''John Aitchek''', an inmate speaking about Michael Slager, the officer who shot Walter Scott
Mainstream criminals have [[BlackandGrayMorality a morality scale on their own]]. Many of them despise the police and prison crews (including [[DirtyCop officers sentenced to prison]]), [[TheInformant snitches]], [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual offenders]], and sexual or racial minorities. TruthInTelevision featured in many works of fiction.
If prisoners of these groups get locked up together with mainstream criminals, they might be beat up in a PrisonRiot, become the victim of PrisonRape (a kind of KarmicRape for sexual offenders), or even killed, typically with a SinisterShiv.
These groups might [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison worse than death]].
See also AssholeVictim and EvenEvilHasStandards.
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[[AC:ComicBooks]]
* ThePunisher once visited a not-quite LuxuryPrisonSuite where it was mentioned that the occupants made use of guys with toothless mouths who knew how to use them, considered the lowest of the low.
** Frank himself is generally put into solitary after a while, as the first thing he does when he's in prison is kill a few inmates, whether they come after him for vengeance or street cred.
* PlayedForLaughs in ''ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumLivingHell'', in which Warren White pleads insanity to escape going to prison for white-collar crimes - only to discover that in Arkham, home of any number of psychotic murderers, scamming people out of their money makes him even more hated than SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' when Rorschach is captured and put in prison other prisoners plan to kill him for his vigilante activities, but he turns the tables on them. "I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
[[AC:LiveActionTV]]
* ''Series/BetterCallSaul''. Mike says that cops [[FateWorseThanDeath fear prison more than death]].
* At the end of the ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' episode "Stress Position", Goren manages to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath shame each of the corrupt prison guards]] who killed the VictimOfTheWeek (and are trying to make another witness suffer an "accident") into turning themselves in. The leader tries to stop the first to back down by warning them he'll face this trope; [[HeelRealisation he says he'll do his time in solitary]].
* In ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prison has separate small wing to house inmates who used to work in law enforcement to protect them from other prisoners.
* In the backstory of ''Series/{{Life}}'' police officer Charlie Crews was in prison for a crime he didn't commit, and ended up spending most of his time in solitary just to keep other prisoners from killing him.
[[AC:Film]]
* ''TheShawshankRedemption''. [[spoiler: When guard chief Hadley is arrested, he breaks down. Implicitly, he knows he will not only go to prison, but also together with inmates who hate him.]]
* The ending of ''[[KinjiteForbiddenSubjects Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects]], where Duke, the main bad guy of the movie, is HoistByHisOwnPetard following his imprisonment for his sexual crimes against children.
*Part of the motive rant of the villain in Film/TheBoneCollector is that he was a former cop who was thrown in prison.
-->"Do you know what happens to a cop in prison? You are brutalised every single day over and over... you become a human toilet."
[[AC:{{Music}}]]
* The song "Date Rape" by Sublime tells a story of a man who rapes a girl he meets in a bar, goes to jail, and is in turn raped himself, [[LaserGuidedKarma in a sort of poetic justice]].
[[AC:{{Theatre}}]]
* In ''Theatre/TheLaramieProject'', one of the characters mentions that Aaron [=McKinney=] and Brian Henderson, the perpetrators of the murder of Matthew Shepard, were not very well-received by their fellow inmates.
* The 1974 play ''ShortEyes'' by Miguel Piñero (Obie Award, Drama Desk Award, Tony Nomination, made into a film) is about an accused child molester in prison. Nearly all the other inmates turn on him for his crime. The term "Short Eyes" is prison slang for a pedophile.
[[AC:VideoGames]]
* ''VideoGame/PrisonArchitect''. A constant concern. Snitches and ex-cops need to get into a segregated unit.
* Invoked in ''VideoGame/MirrorsEdge'': one of the reasons Faith is so adamant about [[ClearTheirName clearing her cop sister Kate's name]] before she stands trial is that "blues in jail don't last long", as she tells Captain Miller.
[[AC:RealLife]]
* Many prison services have segregated units for vulnerable prisoners.
* There are a few UrbanLegends around of EvenEvilHasStandards where prisoners murder newly-arrived pedophiles.
* The authors of the Hi-Fi murders were despised by their death row cellmates, to the point Gary Gilmore, ''en route'' to the [[ShotAtDawn firing squad]], exclamed he would see them in Hell.
* Russia [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/world/europe/29prisons.html?_r=0 has special prisons]] for high ranking civil servants, such as policemen, judges and taxmen.
* The concentration camp inmates the most despised by other inmates were [[ValuesDissonance the homosexuals]] and the [[ThoseWackyNazis NSDAP members]] who [[LaserGuidedKarma got sent there]].
* Pedophile priest John Geoghan was murdered by Joseph Druce, who was serving a life sentence for murder (and now serving a [[LongerThanLifeSentence second life sentence]] for Geoghan's death). It was suggested at the time that Druce killed Geoghan to gain prestige in the prison hierarchy.
