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* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'': Silver, due to constantly {{Time Travel}}ing back and forth between the present and his own BadFuture while causing various changes in the timeline, ultimately ended up "decoupled" from time. On the plus side, this means he remembers what happens due to his various history-altering acts and he's immune to RetGone. On the bad side, he needs to figure out [[ButterflyOfDoom what changed due to his actions]] the hard way by combing through the "new" records of history.
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* [[ComicBook/{{Warlock}} Adam Warlock]] has become something akin to this, a being who stands outside and is not affected by otherwise universal forces of chaos and order or life and death. His sometime enemy the In-Betweener was similarly described in his first appearance, but has since been treated as a creation and servant of the {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of chaos and order. Adam's ally Gamora was plucked from the timeline to make her into such a being, but it didn't take.

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* [[ComicBook/{{Warlock}} [[ComicBook/Warlock1967 Adam Warlock]] has become something akin to this, a being who stands outside and is not affected by otherwise universal forces of chaos and order or life and death. His sometime enemy the In-Betweener was similarly described in his first appearance, but has since been treated as a creation and servant of the {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of chaos and order. Adam's ally Gamora was plucked from the timeline to make her into such a being, but it didn't take.
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* In the third season of ''Series/TheUmbrellaAcademy2019'', the Umbrella Hargreeves siblings [[spoiler:unknowingly]] become ones because [[spoiler:Viktor's removal of his powers from Harlan wasn't entirely complete, so Harlan goes on to accidentally kill all of their mothers via these borrowed powers before they were born and create a GrandfatherParadox in which the siblings need to exist in order to travel back in time to give Harlan his powers to kill their mothers, but their timeline meddling means that they should never have been born in the first place to give Harlan his powers.]] Their very existence interacting with the Sparrow Hargreeves timeline of 2019 spawns the [[NegativeSpaceWedgie kugelblitz]] in the Academy's basement.
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* In ''VideoGame/KingdomsOfAmalurReckoning'', YouCantFightFate is one of the defining features of the setting. So when the [[ImmuneToFate Fateless One]] comes along, it's a very big deal. The paradox is made evident early on: a man knows that he's fated to die at a certain time by the hand of a certain monster. But when the time comes, the Fateless One kills the monster, saving the man. This action indelibly alters not only the fate of the man, but also that of [[ButterflyOfDoom every other person]] he will interact with for the rest of his life (and everyone the monster and its future offspring would have interacted with, as well).
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* Waluigi from ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' is this from a [[{{Postmodernism}} postmodern]] perspective, as discussed in the essay "[[https://theemptypage.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/critical-perspectives-on-waluigi/ Critical Perspectives on Waluigi]]". In the author's words, "Waluigi is the ultimate example of the individual shaped by the signifier. Waluigi is a man seen only in mirror images; lost in a hall of mirrors he is a reflection of a reflection of a reflection. You start with [[TheHero Mario – the wholesome all Italian plumbing superman]], you reflect him to create Luigi – [[StuckInTheirShadow the same thing but slightly less]]. You [[ShadowArchetype invert Mario to create Wario]] – Mario turned septic and libertarian – then you reflect the inversion in the reflection: you create a being who can only exist in reference to others. Waluigi is the true nowhere man, [[https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/8uflkp/a_comic_about_waluigi/ without the other characters he reflects, inverts and parodies he has no reason to exist]]. Waluigi’s identity only comes from what and who he isn’t – without a wider frame of reference he is nothing. He is not his own man."

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* Every [[HumanoidAbomination human(ish) SCP]] of the ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'', by dint of not complying to how reality (as we know it) works. Some of them are outright normal people with [[MundaneHorror something subtly wrong with them that makes them harmful.]]

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* Every [[HumanoidAbomination human(ish) SCP]] of the ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'', by dint of not complying to how reality (as we know it) works. Some of them are outright normal people with [[MundaneHorror something subtly wrong with them that makes them harmful.]]harmful]] or a threat to TheMasquerade.
** A more literal example would be the [[EldritchAbomination Pattern Screamers]], who are sentient forms of unlife [[YourMindMakesItReal created by the human consciousness]] [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm attempting to process total nothingness and literally seeing things that aren't there]]. They're [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-000 fully aware]] of the fact they don't exist, [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3930 they hate us for giving them form]], and they want nothing more than to [[RetGone return to nothingness and take us with them to achieve it]]. Basically, {{tulpa}}s that want themselves and their creators dead.
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** However, [[PlayingWithATrope played with]] when it turns out [[spoiler:that he didn't cause any real temporal paradox, and that the TVA isn't even designed to contain those; it's just enforcing one specific (and apparently arbitrarily chosen) timeline, and pruning anyone who makes decisions that would diverge from that- such as Loki variants that decide to be genuinely heroic.]]
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* ComicBook/AdamWarlock has become something akin to this, a being who stands outside and is not affected by otherwise universal forces of chaos and order or life and death. His sometime enemy the In-Betweener was similarly described in his first appearance, but has since been treated as a creation and servant of the {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of chaos and order. Adam's ally Gamora was plucked from the timeline to make her into such a being, but it didn't take.

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* ComicBook/AdamWarlock [[ComicBook/{{Warlock}} Adam Warlock]] has become something akin to this, a being who stands outside and is not affected by otherwise universal forces of chaos and order or life and death. His sometime enemy the In-Betweener was similarly described in his first appearance, but has since been treated as a creation and servant of the {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of chaos and order. Adam's ally Gamora was plucked from the timeline to make her into such a being, but it didn't take.

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* ''Literature/TheLongPriceQuartet:'' In order to create an ''andat'', a poet must somehow twist the concept he wishes to embody against itself, creating an innate paradox that keeps the andat from simply returning to the memetic void from which it was pulled. This is why all andat seek dissolution, because ceasing to exist is the only way by which they can resolve the intolerable self-contradiction that is their own existence.
** Freedom-from-Bondage, however, is called out as being a ParadoxPerson even by the standards of the ''andat''. Other concepts such as Stone-Made-Soft or Clarity-of-Vision can be bound as andat, but there is no way to control something that embodies the impossibility of control. Freedom-from-Bondage could be created as an andat, but no poet could hold it in existence for more than the blink of an eye.

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* ''Literature/TheLongPriceQuartet:'' In order to create an ''andat'', a poet must somehow twist the concept he wishes to embody against itself, creating an innate paradox that keeps the andat from simply returning to the memetic void from which it was pulled. This is why all andat seek dissolution, because ceasing to exist is the only way by which they can resolve the intolerable self-contradiction that is their own existence.
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existence. Freedom-from-Bondage, however, is called out as being a ParadoxPerson this even by the standards of the ''andat''. Other concepts such as Stone-Made-Soft or Clarity-of-Vision can be bound as andat, but there is no way to control something that embodies the impossibility of control. Freedom-from-Bondage could be created as an andat, but no poet could hold it in existence for more than the blink of an eye.


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*In ''Webcomic/AntiHeroes'', [[BlackMage Aldran]] is half fiend and half angel. Such a cross was thought to be impossible, but here he is, him and [[EvilTwin his brother Eldhin]].


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* ''Webcomic/TheDragonDoctors'': [[http://dragondoctors.dhscomix.com/archives/comic/ch-9-page-2-2 Delta X]], "the result of a mad scientist kidnapping a girl and fusing as many things into her as he could--creatures with contradictory natures, like fire and ice."
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** The Irregularsare beings who have entered the Tower from the outside and are not subject to its rules, nor the limits set by its all-powerful Administrators, which is largely the same thing. The also seem to be ImmuneToFate.

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** The Irregulars in are beings who have entered the Tower from the outside and are not subject to its rules, nor the limits set by its all-powerful Administrators, which is largely the same thing. The also seem to be ImmuneToFate.

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* ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'': "[[Franchise/DragonBall Goku Black]] vs. [[ComicBook/TheFlash Reverse-Flash]]" explores what happens when two Paradox People want each other dead. After duking it out the old-fashioned way in the first half of the battle, Thawne and Zamasu both get the idea to travel back in time and kill their opponents before the fight begins ([[CallBack a la Green Lantern vs. Ben 10]])... only to find neither of them is affected by the deaths of their past selves. [[spoiler:Thawne wins this one, courtesy of being a ''natural'' Paradox Person; Zamasu only possesses the status due to his Time Ring, which can be removed.]]
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* The most famous Reverse-Flash, Professor Zoom, otherwise known by his real name ComicBook/EobardThawne, turned into one thanks to his connection with Negative Speed Force in ''The Flash: Rebirth'', able to alter history and be the only one to remember the way things were before. In ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', he becomes a paradox in that universe due to being from the prior timeline, which allows him to try and kill Barry without fear of losing his powers (though he's killed by Thomas Wayne before he can go through with it). In ''ComicBook/TheButton'', his return to life gives him the idea to [[ImmuneToFate use this as a weapon]] against [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan]], reasoning he can use it to steal his reality-altering power for himself. He's [[VillainsWantMercy wrong]]. ''[[StrippedToTheBone Very, very wrong]]''. The "Paradox" arc shows that each time he dies he's reborn in the Negative Speed Force with his memories of what happened before; not only that, but he retains said memories even when he's at points in his timeline (like killing Nora Allen) where he shouldn't. Finally, his position as this is undone at the end of [[ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth "Legion of Zoom" and "Finish Line"]] when Barry figures out that the reason this is happening is Thawne has nothing to ground him in the current timeline - so he [[spoiler:phases through Eobard and imparts some Speed Force energy to him - acting as a lightning rod to anchor him to the here-and-now by [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor having the connection to Barry he always wanted]], erasing the Reverse-Flash as he is from existence and "resetting" him to the NiceGuy curator of the Flash museum in his home time period]].

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* The most famous Reverse-Flash, Professor Zoom, otherwise known by his real name ComicBook/EobardThawne, turned into one thanks to his connection with Negative Speed Force in ''The Flash: Rebirth'', able to alter history and be the only one to remember the way things were before. In ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', he becomes a paradox in that universe due to being from the prior timeline, which allows him to try and kill Barry without fear of losing his powers (though he's killed by Thomas Wayne before he can go through with it). In ''ComicBook/TheButton'', his return to life gives him the idea to [[ImmuneToFate use this as a weapon]] against [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan]], reasoning he can use it to steal his reality-altering power for himself. He's [[VillainsWantMercy wrong]]. ''[[StrippedToTheBone Very, very wrong]]''.wrong]]'', though notably he still comes back from even this. The "Paradox" arc shows that each time he dies he's reborn in the Negative Speed Force with his memories of what happened before; not only that, but he retains said memories even when he's at points in his timeline (like killing Nora Allen) where he shouldn't. Finally, his position as this is undone at the end of [[ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth "Legion of Zoom" and "Finish Line"]] when Barry figures out that the reason this is happening is Thawne has nothing to ground him in the current timeline - so he [[spoiler:phases through Eobard and imparts some Speed Force energy to him - acting as a lightning rod to anchor him to the here-and-now by [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor having the connection to Barry he always wanted]], erasing the Reverse-Flash as he is from existence and "resetting" him to the NiceGuy curator of the Flash museum in his home time period]].
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* Elizabeth from ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''. [[spoiler: Being born of another universe and split between the two, she can access virtually ''any'' conceivable universe.]]

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* Elizabeth from ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''. [[spoiler: Being born of another universe and split between the two, she can access virtually ''any'' conceivable universe.]] The ''Burial at Sea'' Episode 2 DLC [[spoiler:sees her lose this status, due to the fact that by returning to [[VideoGame/{{Bioshock}} Rapture]] after the version of her there died at the end of Episode 1 [[LaserGuidedKarma by her own actions]], her existence as a quantum suspension is "reset" and now she's stuck in that timeline and ''will'' die for real the next time ([[KilledOffForReal which ultimately happens at the end]]).]]
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* ''LightNovel/ThatTimeIGotReincarnatedAsASlime'', at the end of the Web Novel, [[spoiler:[[TheHero Rimuru Tempest]] reaches this point after becoming the WorldsStrongestMan and a full-on PhysicalGod, able to alter the past at will without compromising his own existence or the world resulting from his actions. He's able to TimeTravel to the point where his past self Satoru Mikami is fatally stabbed, stops the incident, and can completely get away with it to let his old self live a happy life without causing a massive GrandfatherParadox.]]
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* The most famous Reverse-Flash, Professor Zoom, otherwise known by his real name ComicBook/EobardThawne, turned into one thanks to his connection with Negative Speed Force in ''The Flash: Rebirth'', able to alter history and be the only one to remember the way things were before. In ''Flashpoint'' he becomes a paradox in that universe due to being from the prior timeline, which allows him to try and kill Barry without fear of losing his powers (though he's killed by Thomas Wayne before he can go through with it). In ''ComicBook/TheButton'', his return to life gives him the idea to [[ImmuneToFate use this as a weapon]] against [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan]], reasoning he can use it to steal his reality-altering power for himself. He's [[VillainsWantMercy wrong]]. ''[[StrippedToTheBone Very, very wrong]]''. The "Paradox" arc shows that each time he dies he's reborn in the Negative Speed Force with his memories of what happened before; not only that, but he retains said memories even when he's at points in his timeline (like killing Nora Allen) where he shouldn't. Finally, his position as this is undone at the end of [[ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth "Legion of Zoom" and "Finish Line"]] when Barry figures out that the reason this is happening is Thawne has nothing to ground him in the current timeline - so he [[spoiler:phases through Eobard and imparts some Speed Force energy to him - acting as a lightning rod to anchor him to the here-and-now by [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor having the connection to Barry he always wanted]], erasing the Reverse-Flash as he is from existence and "resetting" him to the NiceGuy curator of the Flash museum in his home time period]].

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* The most famous Reverse-Flash, Professor Zoom, otherwise known by his real name ComicBook/EobardThawne, turned into one thanks to his connection with Negative Speed Force in ''The Flash: Rebirth'', able to alter history and be the only one to remember the way things were before. In ''Flashpoint'' ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', he becomes a paradox in that universe due to being from the prior timeline, which allows him to try and kill Barry without fear of losing his powers (though he's killed by Thomas Wayne before he can go through with it). In ''ComicBook/TheButton'', his return to life gives him the idea to [[ImmuneToFate use this as a weapon]] against [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan]], reasoning he can use it to steal his reality-altering power for himself. He's [[VillainsWantMercy wrong]]. ''[[StrippedToTheBone Very, very wrong]]''. The "Paradox" arc shows that each time he dies he's reborn in the Negative Speed Force with his memories of what happened before; not only that, but he retains said memories even when he's at points in his timeline (like killing Nora Allen) where he shouldn't. Finally, his position as this is undone at the end of [[ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth "Legion of Zoom" and "Finish Line"]] when Barry figures out that the reason this is happening is Thawne has nothing to ground him in the current timeline - so he [[spoiler:phases through Eobard and imparts some Speed Force energy to him - acting as a lightning rod to anchor him to the here-and-now by [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor having the connection to Barry he always wanted]], erasing the Reverse-Flash as he is from existence and "resetting" him to the NiceGuy curator of the Flash museum in his home time period]].
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* ''Series/Loki2021'': The protagonist Loki is the one that teleported away with the tesseract during Film/AvengersEndgame. This violated the Sacred Timeline, causing the TVA to arrest him. He's explicitly called a Cosmic mistake.
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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsIntoReverie, [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsOfColdSteel Rean Schwarzer]] encounters a man who looks very similar to him yet at the same time is a RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver version of him. This variation of Rean ends up causing reality to try and merge the two Reans into one being as only one Rean is supposed to exist in the timeline. It's revealed that the other Rean [[spoiler:is a simulated version of him in an alternate timeline where he performs his HeroicSuicide as depicted at the end of ''Cold Steel IV'', formally named as "Ishmelga-Rean".]]

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* The Irregulars in ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod'' are beings who have entered the Tower from the outside and are not subject to its rules, nor the limits set by its all-powerful Administrators, which is largely the same thing. The also seem to be ImmuneToFate.

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** In the computer-program-like virtual reality of the Hidden Floor, Urek Mazino's sworn enemy is left behind when he leaves the program. He shouldn't continue to exist there and constantly has error messages floating around him.
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*** Similarly, the aftermath of the Crisis sees Dinah Drake return to her normal place in the Earth-1 timeline, long enough to [[spoiler: attend the funeral of Oliver Drake]]... only to wake up the very next day in Mia's future, with all evidence of her past existence in the timeline having been erased.

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*** Similarly, the aftermath of the Crisis sees Dinah Drake return to her normal place in the Earth-1 timeline, long enough to [[spoiler: attend the funeral of Oliver Drake]]... only to wake up the very next day in Mia's future, with all evidence of her past existence in the timeline having been erased.
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* Rainbow Dash in ''Fanfic/{{Austraeoh}}''. [[spoiler:After killing Discord]], she became host to both Chaos and Harmony, the two constantly battling for dominance. As long as she's wearing the element of Loyalty, she can survive without adverse affects, but if she removes it, Chaos starts taking hold and she [[spoiler:mutates into a chaos being like Discord]]. Her goal in the fic is to [[spoiler:reach the midnight armory, where she can reforge the other elements, which would have the added benefit of making her immortal.]]

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* Walker Gabriel, the DC hero named Chronos (not to be confused with his mentor, the DC ''villain'' named Chronos), eventually ends up preventing his own childhood as the only way to [[spoiler: save his mother's life]]. He's rather surprised when his time travel powers enable him to survive this, and he goes right on ahead existing. Unfortunately, an earlier adventure left him in a dystopian alternate timeline which he then had to fix, but with the result that his evil self from that timeline also survived (calling himself Anachronos), and he wants revenge. Also, an associate of his is the Contessa, a Renaissance Italisan noblewoman from a now-deleted timeline, who continues to survive only as exist as she stays in the extradimensional city of Chronopolis; she's rather bitter about it.

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* Walker Gabriel, the DC hero named Chronos (not to be confused with his mentor, the DC ''villain'' named Chronos), eventually ends up preventing his own childhood as the only way to [[spoiler: save his mother's life]]. He's rather surprised when his time travel powers enable him to survive this, and he goes right on ahead existing. Unfortunately, an earlier adventure left him in a dystopian alternate timeline which he then had to fix, but with the result that his evil self from that timeline also survived (calling himself Anachronos), and he wants revenge. Also, an associate of his is the Contessa, a Renaissance Italisan noblewoman from a now-deleted timeline, who continues to survive only as exist long as she stays in the extradimensional city of Chronopolis; she's rather bitter about it.



** Tom Bombadil is an unusual... Person. He was apparently already there at the creation of Middle Earth and he isn't a Human, Hobbit, Dwarf, Elf, Vala or Maia. He's also completely immune to the effects of [[ArtifactOfDoom the one ring]] and defies the mythology of Middle Earth. [[InexplicablyAwesome Its never explained as to what exactly he is]].

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** The mortals who become Getimian Exalted were never born because Heaven decided while planning the future that they, and their effects on Creation, should never come to be. The Getimian Exaltation brings that discarded destiny into existence; from a newly-Exalted Getimian's point of view, they've gone from a world where they were going about their lives to a world where they never existed, while from an outside observer's perspective, their original world never existed in the first place.



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** [[spoiler:The PlayerCharacter is himself a paradox in storyline of Record Breaker as his data was erased in the second world, and in the current third world there are moments where he will still temporarily flicker out of existence while his data is being simultaneously repaired by Yamato and attacked by Canopus.]]

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* Jeanne D'Arc Alter Santa Lily of ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' is the idealistic child self of a being that was a) BornAsAnAdult and b) wished into existence by the Grail. The Throne of Heroes threatens her life because there is no concievable timeline or universe where she can naturally exist without some tie to the original Jeanne, and due to her young age she hasn't done anything that can connect her. Amakusa and the Protagonist manage to justify her existence in time by bringing her to the ocean, fulfilling a dream that Jeanne (and by extention Jeanne Alter) never got to experience in her youth.

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* Jeanne D'Arc Alter Santa Lily of ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' is the idealistic child self of a being that was a) BornAsAnAdult and b) wished into existence by the Grail. The Throne of Heroes threatens her life because there is no concievable timeline or universe where she can naturally exist without some tie to the original Jeanne, and due to her young age she hasn't done anything that can connect her. Amakusa and the Protagonist manage to justify her existence in time by bringing her to the ocean, fulfilling a dream that Jeanne (and by extention extension Jeanne Alter) never got to experience in her youth.
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': Goku Black's entire existence is paradoxical. ''Dragon Ball'' utilizes AlternateTimelines, so that any changes made in the past create a new timeline and leave the original future untouched. That is until ''Super'' introduces Time Rings allowing "acausal time travel" that do not create new timelines. Goku Black was created as the result of [[spoiler: Present Zamasu using the Super Dragon Balls to steal the body of Goku, before traveling to the future. However, while Beerus takes the liberty of destroying Zamasu in the present, Goku Black still exists in the future. Black explains wearing the Time Ring allows him to evade being erased from existence and preserve his own history. It gets even more complicated in Episode 67, where it's revealed Beerus' actions did create a Time Ring (and by extension a new timeline) after all]].

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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': Goku Black's entire existence is paradoxical. ''Dragon Ball'' ''Franchise/DragonBall'' utilizes AlternateTimelines, {{Alternate Timeline}}s, so that any changes made in the past create a new timeline and leave the original future untouched. That is until ''Super'' introduces Time Rings allowing "acausal time travel" that do not create new timelines. Goku Black was created as the result of [[spoiler: Present Zamasu using the Super Dragon Balls to steal the body of Goku, before traveling to the future. However, while Beerus takes the liberty of destroying Zamasu in the present, Goku Black still exists in the future. Black explains wearing the Time Ring allows him to evade being erased from existence and preserve his own history. It gets even more complicated in Episode 67, where it's revealed Beerus' actions did create a Time Ring (and by extension a new timeline) after all]].
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** Then there's the Zamasu native to Trunk's timeline, who also used the Super Dragonballs to wish for CompleteImmortality. Thus the trope becomes invoked again when [[spoiler: the two alternate Zamasus fuse, creating a being that simultaneously is and is not immortal. Emphasis on 'paradox' here, because "killing" this mortal/immortal being instead causes him to become a bodiless, metaphysical entity, [[EldritchAbomination a literal living paradox that merges with reality itself and threatens all of spacetime]].]]

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** Then there's the Zamasu native to Trunk's timeline, who also used the Super Dragonballs to wish for CompleteImmortality. Thus the trope becomes invoked again when [[spoiler: the two alternate Zamasus fuse, creating a being that simultaneously is and is not immortal. Emphasis on 'paradox' here, because "killing" this mortal/immortal being instead causes him to become a bodiless, metaphysical entity, [[EldritchAbomination a literal living paradox that merges with reality itself and threatens all of spacetime]].]]
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* Mercurius from ''VisualNovel/DiesIrae'' is a mysterious existence, a being so ancient that even his original name has been lost. But one thing that is known is that he is something that ought not be. He is someone who was supposedly born as he died and died as he was born, all thanks to another man trying to manipulate time to his advantage.
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* The AntiHero version of the Creator/DCComics character Chronos, Gabriel Walker, erased his own history to protect his mother from time-traveling enemies. Technically, he should not exist and has no "real" history to alter.
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->''You were never supposed to live. Took all of Nyx's strength to circumvent what should have been a certainty. Now you cannot stay dead. Such is the wry humor of the Fates.''
-->-- '''Hades''' to '''[[spoiler:Zagreus]]''', ''VideoGame/{{Hades}}''

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->''You ->''"You were never supposed to live. Took all of Nyx's strength to circumvent what should have been a certainty. Now you cannot stay dead. Such is the wry humor of the Fates.''
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-->-- '''Hades''' to '''[[spoiler:Zagreus]]''', '''Zagreus''', ''VideoGame/{{Hades}}''

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