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Insofar as this trope has any truth to it at all, it comes from the fact that the largest muscle pads on the human body -- about the only type of tissue which can take a wound of impressive visual nastiness that isn't necessarily incapacitating or life-threatening -- are in the thighs and the outside (''not'' the center) of the shoulder. The ''[[ShotInTheAss gluteus maximus]]'' will also suffice, but that particular target zone is often felt to [[{{AmusingInjuries}} lack dramatic gravitas]]. This is despite it being a relatively common wound among retired soldiers -- because of its size, and because getting hit there is (''comparatively'') [[SurvivorshipBias less lethal]]. Hitting someone on the other side of their body, in the groin, on the other hand, pretty much guarantees they will bleed out very quickly.

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Insofar as this trope has any truth to it at all, it comes from the fact that the largest muscle pads on the human body -- about the only type of tissue which can take a wound of impressive visual nastiness that isn't necessarily incapacitating or life-threatening -- are in the thighs and the outside (''not'' the center) of the shoulder. The ''[[ShotInTheAss gluteus maximus]]'' will also suffice, but that particular target zone is often felt to [[{{AmusingInjuries}} lack dramatic gravitas]]. This is despite it being a relatively common wound among retired soldiers -- because of its size, and because getting hit there is (''comparatively'') [[SurvivorshipBias less lethal]]. Hitting someone on the other side of their body, in the groin, on the other hand, pretty much guarantees they will bleed out very quickly.
quickly (among other [[CripplingCastration potentially devastating results]] for people with the appropriate "equipment").
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** Meanwhile, ActionHero parody Franz Rayner's special skill that makes him unkillable is basically invoking this every time: he can move his organs around at will inside his body so that he never takes a hit anywhere important (unless it's his AchillesHeel, situation in an arbitrary part of his body).

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** Meanwhile, ActionHero parody Franz Rayner's special skill that makes him unkillable is basically invoking this every time: he can move his organs around at will inside his body so that he never takes a hit anywhere important (unless it's his AchillesHeel, situation situated in an arbitrary part of his body).
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* ''Franchise/AceAttorney'': Zig-zagged throughout the whole franchise. It's about a 50/50 on whether getting shot in, say, the shoulder (as has happened multiple times) either just leaves you in a lot of pain or causes you to bleed out. Ultimately, PlotArmor is the deciding factor on whether flesh wounds actually are just flesh wounds.
** In the bonus fifth case of ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'', the prosecution deals what seems to be a crushing blow to the defense's case, after which Ema will quip, "It's merely a flesh wound!" Naturally, it gets better. Later, after another seemingly crippling point is made, she says it again, with Phoenix replying: "You just said that!"
** Semi-averted around the end of the fourth case in the first game, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Manfred von Karma]] was shot in the shoulder some time ago, and was still able to [[spoiler:shoot Gregory Edgeworth. However, he had to take a few months time of vacation to let the wound heal over the bullet since he didn't undergo surgery in order to not become implicated in the murder.]]
** A more literal example can be seen with Franziska von Karma in the final case of ''Justice for All''. During the case she's [[spoiler: shot in the shoulder. After several hours in the hospital she seems completely fine, and is even swinging around her signature whip as if nothing had ever happened.]] In [[Anime/AceAttorney2016 the anime]], though, she's [[spoiler:out of commission the whole day, and has her arm in a sling when she shows up in court for a BigDamnHeroes moment the next day.]]
** This trope is subverted in case three of ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'', in which the victim Romein [=LeTouse=] is shot in his right shoulder, yet he dies of blood loss hours later.
** At the end of the final case of ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'', [[spoiler: after [[TheSpook the phantom]] is caught, he's shot by a sniper rifle before he can reveal his identity to the court, yet the sniper hit him in a "non-vital area" and the phantom was rushed to the hospital quick enough to survive.]]
* Played with in ''VisualNovel/CafeEnchante'', Rindo gets stabbed by icicles created by Kariya during an emotional breakdown. Rindo pretends he is not badly injured to not further alarm Kariya and Kotone, but the regulars usually see through his act quickly and shoo him back to bed to recover.
* Averted in ''VisualNovel/{{Ever17}}''. We're used to injuries to the legs and arms not being very serious, so when Tsugumi gets stabbed in the leg by a falling pole you might not think it's that serious. However, it's noted that it ought to require months of hospitalization before she can walk again and she nearly dies of blood loss. [[GoodThingYouCanHeal The fact that]] ''[[HealingFactor Tsugumi]]'' [[{{Immortality}} is the one hit is kind of important.]]
* Subverted in ''VisualNovel/{{Hakuouki}}'': Chizuru learns that Sannan was injured in battle while away on a mission, and is relieved when she hears that it was only his left arm that was injured. The other captains of the Shinsengumi, however, see nothing to be relieved about, and explain to Chizuru that the injury is more than enough to end Sannan's career as a swordsman.
* Played for laughs in ''VisualNovel/KokoroNoDokiDokiSenpai'' when Emo burns half of his face off while straightening his hair. Despite this, he's able to drive himself calmly to a hospital and get his face restored completely in what couldn't be more than an hour.
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* [[InvokedTrope Forcibly played straight]] in ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja''. Doc is shot multiple times, passes out, and nearly(?) dies of blood loss. He refuses to die by arguing with the GrimReaper that none of his wounds are fatal and missed all his vital organs (and then immediately drags himself back to the clinic for stitches and a quick blood transfusion). When Death mentions his arteries, the good Doctor responds by ripping off his head and batting it away with his body.

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[[InvokedTrope Forcibly played straight]] in ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja''.straight]]. Doc is shot multiple times, passes out, and nearly(?) dies of blood loss. He refuses to die by arguing with the GrimReaper that none of his wounds are fatal and missed all his vital organs (and then immediately drags himself back to the clinic for stitches and a quick blood transfusion). When Death mentions his arteries, the good Doctor responds by ripping off his head and batting it away with his body.


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** Meanwhile, ActionHero parody Franz Rayner's special skill that makes him unkillable is basically invoking this every time: he can move his organs around at will inside his body so that he never takes a hit anywhere important (unless it's his AchillesHeel, situation in an arbitrary part of his body).
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* Parodied in WebVideo/CalebCity's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9szTeD494M ANY anime MC that gets determined.]] The villain gets increasingly concerned as the hero gets up from an escalating series of severe injuries, with the hero merely attributing it to his [[{{Determinator}} determination]]. [[spoiler:This culminates in the villain ''completely disintegrating'' the hero with his ultimate attack, only for the hero to stand up like nothing happened a second later. The villain walks away in exasperation afterwards.]]
--> Nooo! Like literally, your bones cannot physically be holding you up right now; they were ''dust'' a second ago!
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* ''Webcomic/BeyondTheEnd'': After Mortis's encounter with the shroud, he's clutching an injured shoulder, not letting the full extent of the injury be seen. Given the effects shrouds had on other characters, it's most likely a lot worse than he lets on. Still, he gets up and heads back to Hell.
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In reality, there's no "safe" place to shoot a person, not even in a seemingly non-vital extremity like a leg or arm. Since the arm is a highly-developed and extremely important area of the body, it's supplied by plenty of absolutely ''huge'' blood vessels that go through the shoulder,[[note]]To name three of the biggest ones, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subclavian_artery Subclavian artery]], which comes right off the aortic arch, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axillary_artery axillary artery]] and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachial_artery brachial artery]][[/note]] while the area also has lots of very delicate nerves and a very complex ball-and-socket joint that no surgeon on Earth can put back together once it's smashed to splinters by a bullet. Furthermore, a shot to the shoulder has a very high chance of causing arterial blood to spill into the lung, which would be fatal in most instances. The legs also contain large blood vessels; a shot that nicks the femoral artery will cause a fatal loss of blood in only a few minutes. And this is all assuming a "clean" through-and-through wound, disregarding the possibility of the bullet glancing off a bone or joint and deflecting or fragmenting into pieces, of which each can then hit something ''else'' more important inside. In short, there's no way for anyone, good or bad, to shoot someone and ''know'' that they will survive the wound. As they say, if you're shooting at all, you're shooting to kill.

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In reality, there's no "safe" place to shoot a person, not even in a seemingly non-vital extremity like a leg or arm. Since the arm is a highly-developed and extremely important area of the body, it's supplied by plenty of absolutely ''huge'' blood vessels that go through the shoulder,[[note]]To name three of the biggest ones, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subclavian_artery org/wiki/subclavian_artery Subclavian artery]], which comes right off the aortic arch, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axillary_artery axillary artery]] and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachial_artery brachial artery]][[/note]] while the area also has lots of very delicate nerves and a very complex ball-and-socket joint that no surgeon on Earth can put back together once it's smashed to splinters by a bullet. Furthermore, a shot to the shoulder has a very high chance of causing arterial blood to spill into the lung, which would be fatal in most instances. The legs also contain large blood vessels; a shot that nicks the femoral artery will cause a fatal loss of blood in only a few minutes. And this is all assuming a "clean" through-and-through wound, disregarding the possibility of the bullet glancing off a bone or joint and deflecting or fragmenting into pieces, of which each can then hit something ''else'' more important inside. In short, there's no way for anyone, good or bad, to shoot someone and ''know'' that they will survive the wound. As they say, if you're shooting at all, you're shooting to kill.
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In reality, there's no "safe" place to shoot a person, not even in a seemingly non-vital extremity like a leg or arm. There are ''huge'' blood vessels in a human being's shoulder as well as lots of very delicate nerves and a very complex ball-and-socket joint that no surgeon on Earth can put back together once it's smashed to splinters by a bullet. Furthermore, a shot to the shoulder has a very high chance of causing arterial blood to spill into the lung, which would be fatal in most instances. The legs also contain large blood vessels; a shot that nicks the femoral artery will cause a fatal loss of blood in only a few minutes. And this is all assuming a "clean" through-and-through wound, disregarding the possibility of the bullet glancing off a bone or joint and deflecting or fragmenting into pieces, of which each can then hit something ''else'' more important inside. In short, there's no way for anyone, good or bad, to shoot someone and ''know'' that they will survive the wound. As they say, if you're shooting at all, you're shooting to kill.

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In reality, there's no "safe" place to shoot a person, not even in a seemingly non-vital extremity like a leg or arm. There are Since the arm is a highly-developed and extremely important area of the body, it's supplied by plenty of absolutely ''huge'' blood vessels in a human being's shoulder as well as that go through the shoulder,[[note]]To name three of the biggest ones, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subclavian_artery Subclavian artery]], which comes right off the aortic arch, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axillary_artery axillary artery]] and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachial_artery brachial artery]][[/note]] while the area also has lots of very delicate nerves and a very complex ball-and-socket joint that no surgeon on Earth can put back together once it's smashed to splinters by a bullet. Furthermore, a shot to the shoulder has a very high chance of causing arterial blood to spill into the lung, which would be fatal in most instances. The legs also contain large blood vessels; a shot that nicks the femoral artery will cause a fatal loss of blood in only a few minutes. And this is all assuming a "clean" through-and-through wound, disregarding the possibility of the bullet glancing off a bone or joint and deflecting or fragmenting into pieces, of which each can then hit something ''else'' more important inside. In short, there's no way for anyone, good or bad, to shoot someone and ''know'' that they will survive the wound. As they say, if you're shooting at all, you're shooting to kill.

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-->''Oh, runnin' away eh? COME BACK 'ERE YOU YELLOW BASTARDS! I'LL BITE YOUR LEGS OFF!''

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-->''Oh, -->''"[[Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail Oh, runnin' away eh? COME BACK 'ERE YOU YELLOW BASTARDS! I'LL BITE YOUR LEGS OFF!''OFF!]]"''
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* In the first ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'', Shrek is ShotInTheAss with an [[AnnoyingArrows arrow]]. After Fiona pulls it out, without any other first aid, he's fine. He didn't know it was even there until Fiona pointed it out.

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* In the first ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'', ''WesternAnimation/Shrek1'', Shrek is ShotInTheAss with an [[AnnoyingArrows arrow]]. After Fiona pulls it out, without any other first aid, he's fine. He didn't know it was even there until Fiona pointed it out.
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In reality, there's no "safe" place to shoot a person, not even in a seemingly non-vital extremity like a leg or arm. There are ''huge'' blood vessels in a human being's shoulder as well as lots of very delicate nerves and a very complex ball-and-socket joint that no surgeon on Earth can put back together once it's smashed by a bullet. Furthermore, a shot to the shoulder has a very high chance of causing arterial blood to spill into the lung, which would be fatal in most instances. The legs also contain large blood vessels; a shot that nicks the femoral artery will cause a fatal loss of blood in only a few minutes. And this is all assuming a "clean" through-and-through wound, disregarding the possibility of the bullet glancing off a bone or joint and deflecting or fragmenting into pieces, of which each can then hit something ''else'' more important inside. In short, there's no way for anyone, good or bad, to shoot someone and ''know'' that they will survive the wound. As they say, if you're shooting at all, you're shooting to kill.

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In reality, there's no "safe" place to shoot a person, not even in a seemingly non-vital extremity like a leg or arm. There are ''huge'' blood vessels in a human being's shoulder as well as lots of very delicate nerves and a very complex ball-and-socket joint that no surgeon on Earth can put back together once it's smashed to splinters by a bullet. Furthermore, a shot to the shoulder has a very high chance of causing arterial blood to spill into the lung, which would be fatal in most instances. The legs also contain large blood vessels; a shot that nicks the femoral artery will cause a fatal loss of blood in only a few minutes. And this is all assuming a "clean" through-and-through wound, disregarding the possibility of the bullet glancing off a bone or joint and deflecting or fragmenting into pieces, of which each can then hit something ''else'' more important inside. In short, there's no way for anyone, good or bad, to shoot someone and ''know'' that they will survive the wound. As they say, if you're shooting at all, you're shooting to kill.
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Insofar as this trope has any truth to it at all, it comes from the fact that the largest muscle pads on the human body — about the only type of tissue which can take a wound of impressive visual nastiness that isn't necessarily incapacitating or life-threatening — are in the thighs and the outside (''not'' the center) of the shoulder. The ''[[ShotInTheAss gluteus maximus]]'' will also suffice, but that particular target zone is often felt to [[{{AmusingInjuries}} lack dramatic gravitas]]. This is despite it being a relatively common wound among retired soldiers — because of its size, and because getting hit there is (''comparatively'') less lethal. Hitting someone on the other side of their body, in the groin, on the other hand, pretty much guarantees they will bleed out very quickly.

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Insofar as this trope has any truth to it at all, it comes from the fact that the largest muscle pads on the human body — about the only type of tissue which can take a wound of impressive visual nastiness that isn't necessarily incapacitating or life-threatening — are in the thighs and the outside (''not'' the center) of the shoulder. The ''[[ShotInTheAss gluteus maximus]]'' will also suffice, but that particular target zone is often felt to [[{{AmusingInjuries}} lack dramatic gravitas]]. This is despite it being a relatively common wound among retired soldiers — because of its size, and because getting hit there is (''comparatively'') [[SurvivorshipBias less lethal.lethal]]. Hitting someone on the other side of their body, in the groin, on the other hand, pretty much guarantees they will bleed out very quickly.
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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie,'' where [[spoiler:Starscream shoots Brawl in the shoulder, killing him]].

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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie,'' where [[spoiler:Starscream shoots Brawl Starscream kills Brawn by shooting him in the shoulder, killing him]].shoulder.
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** In ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars}}'', a totaled racecar insists that he can still race as he's being towed away.
** Happens to Lightning [=McQueen=] in ''WesternAnimation/Cars3'' when he crashes violently in the Los Angeles 500 as a result of [[HeroicRROD pushing himself too hard.]] But after a 4 months recovery in Radiator Springs, he appears to not have any lasting injuries and is not paranoid about the crash itself but more about what that crash could mean for his racing career.

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** In ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars}}'', ''WesternAnimation/Cars1'', a totaled racecar insists that he can still race as he's being towed away.
** Happens to In ''WesternAnimation/Cars3'', Lightning [=McQueen=] in ''WesternAnimation/Cars3'' when he crashes violently in the Los Angeles 500 as a result of [[HeroicRROD pushing himself too hard.]] But after a 4 months recovery in Radiator Springs, he appears to not have any lasting injuries and is not paranoid about the crash itself but more about what that crash could mean for his racing career.
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* In the first ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'', Shrek is shot in the ass with an [[AnnoyingArrows arrow]]. After Fiona pulls it out, without any other first aid, he's fine. He didn't know it was even there until Fiona pointed it out.

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* In the first ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'', Shrek is shot in the ass ShotInTheAss with an [[AnnoyingArrows arrow]]. After Fiona pulls it out, without any other first aid, he's fine. He didn't know it was even there until Fiona pointed it out.
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* ''Webcomic/HowToBeAWerewolf'': After being bitten by a werewolf and having to tear the werewolf off Vincent tells Malaya he's fine and gets back up, though shortly after he ends up on his knees when the adrenaline wears off.

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* ''Webcomic/HowToBeAWerewolf'': After being bitten by a werewolf and having to tear the werewolf off leaving a large bloody wound in his side Vincent tells Malaya he's fine and gets back up, up to rejoin her on his own, though shortly after he ends up on his knees when the adrenaline wears off.
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* ''Webcomic/HowToBeAWerewolf'': After being bitten by a werewolf and having to tear the werewolf off Vincent tells Malaya he's fine and gets back up, though shortly after he ends up on his knees when the adrenaline wears off.
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* In ''Fanfic/TheNightUnfurls'', the closest instance of a major injury that Kyril sustains in the original story is either a punctured lung from a crossbow shot, or a sword wound to an arm and a leg from his duel with Vault. Both of them are received in the Liberation of Ansur Arc. Being a ''VideoGame/BloodBorne'' hunter, it would not be surprising to see him shrug off said injuries without trouble.

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* In ''Fanfic/TheNightUnfurls'', the closest instance instances of a major injury that Kyril sustains in the original story is either are a punctured lung from a crossbow shot, or and a sword wound to an arm and a leg from his duel with Vault. Both of them are received in the Liberation ''Liberation of Ansur Arc.[[StoryArc Arc]]''. Being a ''VideoGame/BloodBorne'' hunter, it would not be surprising to see him shrug off said injuries without trouble.

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