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'''NoRealLifeExamples, please.''''''First Note:''' This is for ''InUniverse'' characterization. Subjective[=/=]AudienceReaction interpretations go in DesignatedHero.

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* In ''Fanfic/NarutoVeanganceRevelaitons'', Ronan [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Beelzbub]] is a tyrannical king who fights against the forces of evil, especially when they kidnap one or more of his girlfriends, but it's often hard to see them as being worse than he is considering that he's also an abusive boyfriend, will persecute those who don't share his tastes and a jerk to ordinary people like shopkeepers.
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* In ''{{LightNovel/Baccano}}'', the Rail Tracer [[spoiler:(Claire Stenfield)]] of , [[spoiler: saves a train and its passengers from being hijacked from two enemy factions, all the while [[HighHeelFaceTurn winning the heart]] of a [[TheSpeechless silent beauty]]. Nevermind that he's a trained mafia assassin who brutally murders dozens of people from both factions and [[BreakTheCutie tortures]] a [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld little boy]].]]

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* In ''{{LightNovel/Baccano}}'', the Rail Tracer [[spoiler:(Claire Stenfield)]] of , [[spoiler: saves a train and its passengers from being hijacked from two enemy factions, all the while [[HighHeelFaceTurn winning the heart]] of a [[TheSpeechless silent beauty]]. Nevermind that he's a trained mafia assassin who brutally murders dozens of people from both factions and [[BreakTheCutie tortures]] a [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld little boy]].]]
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* ByronicHero lelouch from CodeGeass.

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* ByronicHero lelouch Lelouch vi Britannia from CodeGeass.
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* Dark Pit from ''KidIcarusUprising''. He isn't to concerned with the war between the gods. He just likes beating up monsters. [[spoiler:After the time skip he gets more involved in order to make sure Pit remains alive, since he learns his existence depends on Pits.]]
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* Franchise/{{Rance}} is the probably earliest example in videogames. Being a SociopathicHero [[BlackComedyRape rapist]] motivated by a QuestForSex is [[{{Jerkass}} only the tip]] of a [[UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist very large iceberg]].
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* In ''KingdomHeartsII'', Maleficent, while still not "good" in any sense of the word, is allied with the heroes in a common goal.

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* In ''KingdomHeartsII'', ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', Maleficent, while still not "good" in any sense of the word, is allied with the heroes in a common goal.
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* byronicHero lelouch from CodeGeass.

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* byronicHero ByronicHero lelouch from CodeGeass.
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* byronicHero lelouch from CodeGeass.


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* AffablyEvil Alucard from {{Hellsing}}
* NobleDemon Hiei from YuYuHakusho
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Nominal heroes have standards.


* Even without a HeelRealization, an EnemyMine, the lesser of evils in an EvilVersusEvil or ALighterShadeOfBlack story, a SociopathicHero, NobleDemon, TokenEvilTeammate, or UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist can have an EvenEvilHasStandards moment and fight for good for the same reasons an IdealHero would. A NominalHero has no such standards.
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** Still, the epilogue has them being credited as the individuals who started the events that led to the world being saved. That is, by being responsible for the world-ending threat in the first place.
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* When ordered to rescue the President of the United States, [[EscapeFromNewYork Snake Plissken]] would gladly hijack his transportation and fly to Canada, but a bomb planted in his body makes him do otherwise.
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* Force. Some characters become heroes because they literally aren't allowed to be anything else. Maybe they're on an ExplosiveLeash or are a CosmicPlaything, but when they fight for the side of good, it's only because it's their only option other than perhaps death.
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** Eugene Greenhilt from swore a BloodOath to defeat Xykon the Sorcerer because the latter killed his mentor, but he was the one who muttered "yeah, whatever," afterwards. He was a horrible father, an inattentive husband, and the small amount of interest he has in Xykon being defeated is only because that oath he swore is keeping him from resting. He's only ''barely'' inside heaven in the afterlife. Note that when his son Roy died and went to heaven, Roy was able to get much further inside heaven because unlike Eugene, he actually gave a damn and did everything he could to fulfill the family oath.

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** Eugene Greenhilt from swore a BloodOath to defeat Xykon the Sorcerer because the latter killed his mentor, but he was the one who muttered "yeah, whatever," afterwards. He was a horrible father, an inattentive husband, and the small amount of interest he has in Xykon being defeated is only because that oath he swore is keeping him from resting. He's only ''barely'' inside heaven in the afterlife. Note that when his son Roy died and went to heaven, Roy was able to get much further inside heaven because unlike Eugene, he actually gave a damn and did everything he could to fulfill the family oath.
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** Zapp Brannigan is a cowardly, vain, selfish, ignorant, womanising Jerkass whose incompetence is of epic proportions, and whose battle plans often if not usually call for callously sacrificing thousands of lives in order to further his own career. Nonetheless, he is a key asset for [[TheFederation DOOP]].

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** Zapp Brannigan is a cowardly, vain, selfish, ignorant, womanising Jerkass womanizing {{Jerkass}} whose incompetence is of epic proportions, and whose battle plans often if not usually call for callously sacrificing thousands of lives in order to further his own career. Nonetheless, he is a key asset for [[TheFederation DOOP]].
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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', "The Coon" is an imcompetant KidHero who, being Eric Cartman in disguise, cannot comprehend good from evil (he attacks a man romantically kissing his girlfriend for attempted rape), and the large amount of time is more interested in gaining a mystique and fame than actually doing something benevolent. When another genuinely competant KidHero, Mysterion (Kenny in disguise), steps in and overshadows him, he actually joins forces with a villain to put him out of action (albeit still perfectly convinced he is doing good and Mysterion is actually a dick). Amusingly, The Coon is a ''much'' more competent villain than he is a hero.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', "The Coon" is an imcompetant KidHero who, being Eric Cartman in disguise, cannot comprehend good from evil (he attacks a man romantically kissing his girlfriend for attempted rape), and the large amount of time is more interested in gaining a mystique and fame than actually doing something benevolent. When another genuinely competant KidHero, Mysterion (Kenny ([[spoiler:Kenny in disguise), disguise]]), steps in and overshadows him, he actually joins forces with a villain to put him out of action (albeit still perfectly convinced he is doing good and Mysterion is actually a dick). Amusingly, The Coon is a ''much'' more competent villain than he is a hero.



** Zapp Brannigan is a cowardly, vain, selfish, ignorant, womanising JerkassWoobie whose incompetence is of epic proportions, and whose battle plans often if not usually call for callously sacrificing thousands of lives in order to further his own career. Nonetheless, he is a key asset for [[TheFederation DOOP]].

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** Zapp Brannigan is a cowardly, vain, selfish, ignorant, womanising JerkassWoobie Jerkass whose incompetence is of epic proportions, and whose battle plans often if not usually call for callously sacrificing thousands of lives in order to further his own career. Nonetheless, he is a key asset for [[TheFederation DOOP]].
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* {{Dexter}} is at the far, dark end of this to the point where he could fairly be considered simply a likeable VillainProtagonist, being a SerialKiller who is [[strike: moral]] clever enough to restrict his victims to other evildoers.

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* {{Dexter}} is at the far, dark end of this to the point where he could fairly be considered simply a likeable VillainProtagonist, being a SerialKiller who is [[strike: moral]] clever enough was disciplined at a young age to restrict channel his victims to sociopathy toward killing other evildoers.
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* Boredom. These characters are basically fighting for good because they don't have anything better to do. They don't care if the heroes actually succeed, they just enjoy the adventure. A SociopathicHero or TheTrickster might have this motivation.

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* Boredom. These characters are basically fighting for good because they don't have anything better to do. They don't care if the heroes actually succeed, they just enjoy the adventure. A SociopathicHero HeroicComedicSociopath or TheTrickster might have this motivation.
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* ''TheExpendables''
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* Raistlin Majere is this in the original {{Dragonlance}} ''Chronicles'' triology. Really the only thing keeping him with the Heroes of the Lance is some lingering affection for some of them and the presence of his brother Caramon. [[spoiler: Even during ''Chronicles'' Raistlin started drifting towards becoming the TokenEvilTeammate and the FaceHeelTurn was complete by the next triology ''Legends''. Still he did earn his RedemptionEqualsDeath and had a few PetTheDog moments.]]
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* Magna-Defender is like this in PowerRangersLostGalaxy. He may assist the rangers taking down a monster or two and want to take down Scorpious, but he's only does it for the revenge. This definitely becomes clearer when he tries to destroy Terra Venture because it might destroy Scorpious. Although he gets better, [[RedemptionEqualsDeath near the end]].
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** In which case the gods themselves become Nominal Hero antagonists. Their motivations for opposing Kratos are purely selfish, and they have little concern or empathy for humanity itself.
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* In ''{{Literature/Baccano}}'', the Rail Tracer [[spoiler:(Claire Stenfield)]] of , [[spoiler: saves a train and its passengers from being hijacked from two enemy factions, all the while [[HighHeelFaceTurn winning the heart]] of a [[TheSpeechless silent beauty]]. Nevermind that he's a trained mafia assassin who brutally murders dozens of people from both factions and [[BreakTheCutie tortures]] a [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld little boy]].]]

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* In ''{{Literature/Baccano}}'', ''{{LightNovel/Baccano}}'', the Rail Tracer [[spoiler:(Claire Stenfield)]] of , [[spoiler: saves a train and its passengers from being hijacked from two enemy factions, all the while [[HighHeelFaceTurn winning the heart]] of a [[TheSpeechless silent beauty]]. Nevermind that he's a trained mafia assassin who brutally murders dozens of people from both factions and [[BreakTheCutie tortures]] a [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld little boy]].]]
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* In "{{Marathon}}", not only does Durandal make it quite clear that he is only fighting the Pfhor as a means of escaping the end of the universe, [[spoiler: he is the one who brought the Pfhor to Tau Ceti in the original game, an action that resulted in the deaths of nearly everyone in the colony.]]

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* In "{{Marathon}}", ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'', not only does Durandal make it quite clear that he is only fighting the Pfhor as a means of escaping the end of the universe, [[spoiler: he is the one who brought the Pfhor to Tau Ceti in the original game, an action that resulted in the deaths of nearly everyone in the colony.]]

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* In the [[{{Sherlock}} 2010 BBC modernization]], Sherlock Holmes [[{{Lampshade}} describes himself]] as a "[[{{SociopathicHero}} High-Functioning Sociopath]]", and cautions Dr. Watson, "Don't make people into heroes, John. Heroes don't exist, and if they did, I wouldn't be one of them," showing not only that his motivations are not those of a typical straight hero, but also that he has a very cynical worldview.

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* In the [[{{Sherlock}} 2010 BBC modernization]], Sherlock Holmes [[{{Lampshade}} describes himself]] as a "[[{{SociopathicHero}} "[[SociopathicHero High-Functioning Sociopath]]", and cautions Dr. Watson, "Don't make people into heroes, John. Heroes don't exist, and if they did, I wouldn't be one of them," showing not only that his motivations are not those of a typical straight hero, but also that he has a very cynical worldview.



* Over the course of his development, Kerr Avon in {{Blakes Seven}} varies from {{Token Evil TeamMate}} to a {{Jerk With A Heart Of Gold}} but loses all sympathetic qualties towards the end of series 4 when he tries to kill Villia in cold blood. He's still fighting the LawfulEvil federation but he only cares about saving himself.

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* Over the course of his development, Kerr Avon in {{Blakes Seven}} ''BlakesSeven'' varies from {{Token Evil TeamMate}} TokenEvilTeamMate to a {{Jerk With A Heart Of Gold}} JerkWithAHeartOfGold but loses all sympathetic qualties qualities towards the end of series Series 4 when he tries to kill Villia Vila in cold blood. He's still fighting the LawfulEvil federation Federation but he only cares about saving himself.himself.
** His reasons for fighting the Federation also change as time passes: in Season 1 he claims to have nothing to do with Blake's revolution other than living on the same ship, in Season 2 he's playing along because he wants the ship, in Season 3 the Federation is a threat to his freedom and by Season 4 he genuinely hates them, though by this time he's [[SanitySlippage sliding down the sanity slope]] and it's hard to tell ''what'' his true motivations are.
** Most of the other "good" main characters -- except Blake, Cally, Dayna and perhaps Jenna and Gan -- are being dragged along behind Blake's idealism. They fight because there's nowhere for them to run.
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* Over the course of hive development Kerr Avon in Blake's7 varies from TokenEvilTeamMate to a JerkWithAHeartOfGold but loses all sympathetic qualties towards the end of series 4 when he tries to kill Villia in cold blood. He's still fighting the LawfulEvil federation but he only cares about saving himself.

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* Over the course of hive development his development, Kerr Avon in Blake's7 {{Blakes Seven}} varies from TokenEvilTeamMate {{Token Evil TeamMate}} to a JerkWithAHeartOfGold {{Jerk With A Heart Of Gold}} but loses all sympathetic qualties towards the end of series 4 when he tries to kill Villia in cold blood. He's still fighting the LawfulEvil federation but he only cares about saving himself.
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* [[BloodKnight Augus]] in "Asura'sWrath" only joined the Eight Guardian Generals so he could have exciting battles.

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* [[BloodKnight Augus]] in "Asura'sWrath" only joined the Eight Guardian Generals so he could have exciting battles.
** [[spoiler:4 of all]] the Seven Deities are [[spoiler:implied to be]] this
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* Severl of the protaganists of BaldursGateDarkAlliance 2. Vhaidra wants to hone her skills as a monk so she can take bloody revenge against the assassins who murdered her family, and Borador, as a result of a debt owed to the elves, wants to get his hands on as mouch coin as he can. Dorn is a borderline exmple since his motivation comes across as equal parts 'make the realms a better place' and 'earn as much glory for myself and seduce as many women as I can.'

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* Severl Several of the protaganists of BaldursGateDarkAlliance 2. ''BaldursGateDarkAlliance'' ''2''. Vhaidra wants to hone her skills as a monk so she can take bloody revenge against the assassins who murdered her family, and Borador, as a result of a debt owed to the elves, wants to get his hands on as mouch much coin as he can. Dorn is a borderline exmple example, since his motivation comes across as equal parts 'make the realms a better place' and 'earn as much glory for myself and seduce as many women as I can.'
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* Severl of the protaganists of BaldursGateDarkAlliance 2. Vhaidra wants to hone her skills as a monk so she can take bloody revenge against the assassins who murdered her family, and Borador, as a result of a debt owed to the elves, wants to get his hands on as mouch coin as he can. Dorn is a borderline exmple since his motivation comes across as equal parts 'make the realms a better place' and 'earn as much glory for myself and seduce as many women as I can.'

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