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* ''{{Pikmin}}'': Sometimes it's not just for bragging rights, but because some players can't bear to [[VideoGameCaringPotential let any of the titular adorable alien critters die.]]

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* ''{{Pikmin}}'': Sometimes it's not just for bragging rights, but because some players can't bear to [[VideoGameCaringPotential let any of the titular eponymous adorable alien critters die.]]

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EverybodyLives as a SelfImposedChallenge. This is where you try to make sure there are absolutely minimized, if any, casualties.

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EverybodyLives as a SelfImposedChallenge. This is where you try to make sure there are absolutely minimized, if any, casualties.
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** The two pretty much have to go together--every time your undead allies use their weapons, they come a little closer to fading from existence, and the standard solution is to sacrifice one ally to rejuvenate another. The alternative is to have a constant stream of new recruits and leave the old ones just ''barely'' clinging to existence.
* Some of the more recent {{Sonic the Hedgehog}} games have missions such as "Don't injure the townspeople," and "Don't break anything."

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** The two pretty much have to go together--every time your undead allies use their weapons, they come a little closer to fading from existence, and the standard solution is to sacrifice one ally to rejuvenate another. The alternative is to have a constant stream of new recruits and leave the old ones just ''barely'' clinging to existence.
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* Some of the more recent {{Sonic the Hedgehog}} SonicTheHedgehog games have missions such as "Don't injure the townspeople," and "Don't break anything."



* ''DawnOfWar 2'' rewards you with extra experience and compaign points for keeping your squad leaders from being incapacitated. Their retinues, though? Meh, it's Warhammer 40K, what'd you expect?

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* ''DawnOfWar 2'' rewards you with extra experience and compaign points for keeping your squad leaders from being incapacitated. Their retinues, though? Meh, it's Warhammer 40K, what'd you expect? expect?



* You wouldn't expect this in a strategy game, but ''{{Heroes of Might and Magic}} IV'' has one faction, Order, that can reasonably pull this off (at least in terms of protecting itself) by recruiting entirely ranged and spellcasting units and cutting down everything before it gets close. A certain amount of attrition is expected, so by avoiding that attrition one can make one's army unreasonably powerful, killing any enemy stack in a single attack. (Nature can do this too, but it's a lot harder, and Death in particular is completely incapable of it, since the player is expected to simply replenish the losses through reviving both sides' dead.)

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* You wouldn't expect this in a strategy game, but ''{{Heroes of Might and Magic}} ''HeroesOfMightAndMagic IV'' has one faction, Order, that can reasonably pull this off (at least in terms of protecting itself) by recruiting entirely ranged and spellcasting units and cutting down everything before it gets close. A certain amount of attrition is expected, so by avoiding that attrition one can make one's army unreasonably powerful, killing any enemy stack in a single attack. (Nature can do this too, but it's a lot harder, and Death in particular is completely incapable of it, since the player is expected to simply replenish the losses through reviving both sides' dead.)



* The RTS game ''Blitzkrieg'' inspires this for the player's core units, which are selectable tanks & artillery that gain veterancy and accompany the player as he progresses through the game.
* ''{{Shadowrun}}'' on the SNES offers a completely pointless challenge: The two women runners the player can encounter also happen to be the only runners with any relevance to the plot, and may be made into permanent party members. The challenge then becomes to keep both of their squishy spellcaster asses alive for the rest of the game.

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* The RTS game ''Blitzkrieg'' inspires this for the player's core units, which are selectable tanks & artillery that gain veterancy and accompany the player as he progresses through the game.
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* ''{{Shadowrun}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' on the SNES offers a completely pointless challenge: The two women runners the player can encounter also happen to be the only runners with any relevance to the plot, and may be made into permanent party members. The challenge then becomes to keep both of their squishy spellcaster asses alive for the rest of the game.



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* In the TacticsOgre PSP remake, the title "Concord King Unbloodied" is awarded to players who avoid ever losing an ally in battle, though in TacticsOgre it's even easier than in FinalFantasyTactics, as the player not only has a three-count until FinalDeath, but reviving downed party members is also much easier (since the "item" command is automatically equipped and doesn't have to be leveled up to use a revive item) and the player can always opt to rewind time by as many as fifty turns if they discover that they won't be able to save a party member in time.
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* In TheLordoftheRingsOnline, the Tier 2 Challenge for Saruman's fight was to defeat him without anyone reaching zero morale, and within 30 minutes, or else everyone instantly dies.

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* In TheLordoftheRingsOnline, the Tier 2 Challenge for Saruman's fight was to defeat involves defeating him without anyone reaching zero morale, and within 30 minutes, or else everyone instantly dies.
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* In The Lord of the Rings Online, the Tier 2 Challenge for Saruman's fight was to defeat him without anyone reaching zero morale, and within 30 minutes, or else everyone instantly dies.

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* In The Lord of the Rings Online, TheLordoftheRingsOnline, the Tier 2 Challenge for Saruman's fight was to defeat him without anyone reaching zero morale, and within 30 minutes, or else everyone instantly dies.
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* In Thelordoftheringsonline, the Tier 2 Challenge for Saruman's fight was to defeat him without anyone reaching zero morale, and within 30 minutes, or else everyone instantly dies.

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* In Thelordoftheringsonline, The Lord of the Rings Online, the Tier 2 Challenge for Saruman's fight was to defeat him without anyone reaching zero morale, and within 30 minutes, or else everyone instantly dies.
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* In Thelordoftheringsonline, the Tier 2 Challenge for Saruman's fight was to defeat him without anyone reaching zero morale, and within 30 minutes, or else everyone instantly dies.
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** There's also the Nuzlocke Challenge, in which the player is punished greatly if any of his party members ever faints.
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** Also, some [=NPCs=] will let you know your Pokèmon's feelings towards you depending on how you treated them. Some will even give you rewards for keeping your friends well.

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** Also, some [=NPCs=] will let you know your Pokèmon's Pokémon's feelings towards you depending on how you treated them. Some will even give you rewards for keeping your friends well.
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* This is a recognised challenge in the ''{{Oddworld}}'' games, where rescuing absolutely everyone usually nets you the best ending possible. Also inverted in that KILLING everyone gets you an extra-bad ending.

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* This is a recognised challenge in the ''{{Oddworld}}'' games, where rescuing absolutely everyone usually nets you the best ending possible. Also inverted in that Also, KILLING everyone gets you an extra-bad ending.ending. In the first 3 games, this means saving all your fellow Mudokens/Fuzzles. In StrangersWrath, this means capturing all the bosses alive, and not killing any enemies that you don't have to. The only reward is extra money, or, later in the game, extra ammo.
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** This is one of the two central tenants to a Nuzlocke Challenge (the other is that you're only allowed to [[MinimalistRun catch the first Pokemon you encounter on each route]]).

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Description expanded to distinguish versus a No Death Run


EverybodyLives as a SelfImposedChallenge. This is where you try to make sure there are absolutely minimized, if any, casualties. This [[WhatMeasureIsAMook may extend to]] [[MercyRewarded enemies]] for a technical PacifistRun included.

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EverybodyLives as a SelfImposedChallenge. This is where you try to make sure there are absolutely minimized, if any, casualties.

Different from a NoDeathRun in that games where this challenge is invoked have the Player controlling multiple characters at the same time, and not with the same degree of control as in a {{Platformer}} or a FirstPersonShooter. Usually invoked in {{RPG}}s and Strategy games. As the aforementioned reduced degree of control makes a NoDamageRun technically impossible, this becomes the ClosestThingWeGot

This [[WhatMeasureIsAMook may extend to]] [[MercyRewarded enemies]] for a technical PacifistRun included.
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* Many {{RPG}}s, since their nature makes a No Damage Run almost impossible. This is the closest you can get.



** Also, some [=NPCs=] will let you know your Pokèmon's feelings towards you depending on how you treated them.Some will even give you rewards for keeping your friends well.

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** Also, some [=NPCs=] will let you know your Pokèmon's feelings towards you depending on how you treated them. Some will even give you rewards for keeping your friends well.well.
** This is one of the two central tenants to a Nuzlocke Challenge (the other is that you're only allowed to [[MinimalistRun catch the first Pokemon you encounter on each route]]).
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* ''{{Shadowrun}}'' on the SNES offers a completely pointless challenge: The two women runners the player can encounter also happen to be the only runners with any relevance to the plot, and may be made into permanent party members. The challenge then becomes to keep both of their squishy spellcaster asses alive for the rest of the game.

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* ''DeadRising''. There's an achievement; "Saint", for those who save almost all of the characters. Granted, to maximize survivors, you have to go for ending B over ending A, which means you must cut the game short and ignore a good portion of the plot
** Actually, you can get Saint and ending A, by having [[NintendoHard ALL BUT ONE SURVIVOR RESCUED.]] VideoGameCaringPotential UpToEleven.
*** No, that would imply that the players actually care about the TooDumbToLive survivors...

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* ''DeadRising''. There's an achievement; "Saint", for those who save almost all of the characters. Granted, to maximize To get the maximum number of survivors, you have to go for ending B over ending A, which means you must cut the game short and ignore a good portion most of the plot
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plot, to avoid PlotlineDeath. But you can follow the plot and still get Saint and ending A, by having [[NintendoHard ALL BUT ONE SURVIVOR RESCUED.]] VideoGameCaringPotential UpToEleven.
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just enough for the players actually care about the TooDumbToLive survivors...achievement.
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* Higher difficulty levels of ''{{Thief}}'' give an instant game over for killing guards, even if it would be acceptable to kill them at normal difficulty. You're supposed to be a master of stealth, after all. Some players take this further and don't even kill monsters.
* Mandatory non-video game example. The [[TheNthDoctor Ninth Doctor]] gets on in the first series of [[DoctorWho New Who]], against all odds when everything could have easily gone very differently. It's a genuinely pure, positive moment for the dark and brooding Doctor. Then next series [[TheNthDoctor the Tenth Doctor]] gets one for no real reason, saying the exact same line, solving the problem of the week which makes no sense at all, even for a show that runs on {{Timey Wimey Ball}}.
** The same Doctor later gets a much more appropriate and less jarring one.
* Many of the later LegendofZelda games have a death counter on the file select screen, just for this purpose.
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** Lemmings 2: Tribes, is built on the idea of saving your lemmings, as you only get as many as you saved. Only the classic tribe requires you to lose any lemmings, meaning this is ''almost'' possible.
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** Also, some NPCs will let you know your Pokèmon's feelings towards you depending on how you treated them.Some will even give you rewards for keeping your friends well.

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** Also, some NPCs [=NPCs=] will let you know your Pokèmon's feelings towards you depending on how you treated them.Some will even give you rewards for keeping your friends well.
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No, deaths against trash didn\'t count. Only bosses counted. Also putting this in past tense since the achievements are no longer obtainable.


* ''WorldOfWarcraft'' has got one achievement to get your raid through Naxxramas and kill all bosses with no one hitting 0 Hit Points. Whenever one dies, the challenge can only be taken up again the next week after the reset because the casualty will be recorded. Oh, and, deaths against trash mobs count too.

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* ''WorldOfWarcraft'' has got one achievement had achievements to get your raid through Naxxramas and kill all the bosses with no one hitting 0 Hit Points. Whenever If even one dies, raid member died, the challenge can could only be taken up again the next week after the reset because the casualty will would be recorded. Oh, and, deaths against trash mobs count too. recorded.
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* The RTS game ''Blitzkrieg'' inspires this for the player's core units, which are selectable tanks & artillery that gain veterancy and accompany the player as he progresses through the game.
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* The main ''ZoneOfTheEnders'' games feature missions where the player is supposed to protect buildings with civilians and/or allied soldiers in obsolete mecha. One particular battle in the second game involves trying to protect 20 of these suits while fighting hundreds of enemies across a large battlefield. The only way for the main character to feel good about the outcome is to save every single one of them.
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** Also, some NPCs will let you know your Pokèmon's feelings towards you depending on how you treated them.Some will even give you rewards for keeping your friends well.
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* Theoretically possible in ''{{X-COM}}'', although considering the ridiculously high early-game (and mid-game, and end-game) casualty rate, this is extraordinarily difficult even on Beginner, and flat-out impossible on any difficulty at or above Normal.

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* Theoretically possible in ''{{X-COM}}'', although considering the ridiculously high early-game (and mid-game, and end-game) casualty rate, this is extraordinarily difficult even on Beginner, and flat-out impossible on any difficulty at or above Normal.Normal, unless you're willing to do a lot of SaveScumming.
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* Many of the later LegendofZelda games have a death counter on the file select screen, just for this purpose.
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* Some players of ''{{Pokemon}}'' will regard the virtual monsters humanely and attempt to keep them from [[NonLethalKO fainting]] at all costs. After the first generation this is rewarded by increasing your Pokemon's friendship with you (or at least keeping it level; letting it faint will kick it down a notch) which affects the power of its Return move if it's learned it, and in some cases allows it to evolve into a more powerful form.

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* Some players of ''{{Pokemon}}'' will regard the virtual monsters humanely and attempt to keep them from [[NonLethalKO fainting]] at all costs. After the first generation this is rewarded by increasing your Pokemon's friendship with you (or at least keeping letting it level; level up; letting it faint will kick prevent it down a notch) from gaining experience) which affects the power of its Return move if it's learned it, and in some cases allows it to evolve into a more powerful form.
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* Mandatory non-video game example. The [[TheNthDoctor Ninth Doctor]] gets on in the first series of [[DoctorWho New Who]], against all aodds when everything could have easily gonevery differently. It's a genuinely pure, positive moment for the dark and brooding Doctor. Then next series [[TheNthDoctor the Tenth Doctor]] gets one for no real reason, saying the exact same line, solving the problem of the week which makes no sense at all, even for a show that runs on {{Timey Wimey Ball}}.

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* Mandatory non-video game example. The [[TheNthDoctor Ninth Doctor]] gets on in the first series of [[DoctorWho New Who]], against all aodds odds when everything could have easily gonevery gone very differently. It's a genuinely pure, positive moment for the dark and brooding Doctor. Then next series [[TheNthDoctor the Tenth Doctor]] gets one for no real reason, saying the exact same line, solving the problem of the week which makes no sense at all, even for a show that runs on {{Timey Wimey Ball}}.
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* ''MetalGearSolid'' lets you do this with the enemies, and even awards you for doing so.

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* ''MetalGearSolid'' lets allows you do this with the enemies, enemies by using non-lethal weapon and even awards you for doing so.so, requiring you to do so to get the highest rank possible. It's possible to play through The Twin Snakes, 2, 3 and 4 with only a single kill throughout the whole saga: [[spoiler: The Boss]].
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* Some players of ''{{Pokemon}}'' will regard the virtual monsters humanely and attempt to keep them from [[NeverSayDie fainting]] at all costs. After the first generation this is rewarded by increasing your Pokemon's friendship with you (or at least keeping it level; letting it faint will kick it down a notch) which affects the power of its Return move if it's learned it, and in some cases allows it to evolve into a more powerful form.

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* Some players of ''{{Pokemon}}'' will regard the virtual monsters humanely and attempt to keep them from [[NeverSayDie [[NonLethalKO fainting]] at all costs. After the first generation this is rewarded by increasing your Pokemon's friendship with you (or at least keeping it level; letting it faint will kick it down a notch) which affects the power of its Return move if it's learned it, and in some cases allows it to evolve into a more powerful form.
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** The same Doctor later gets a much more appropriate and less jarring one.
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* Mandatory non-video game example. The [[TheNthDoctor Ninth Doctor]] gets on in the first series of [[DoctorWho New Who]], against all aodds when everything could have easily gonevery differently. It's a genuinely pure, positive moment for the dark and brooding Doctor. Then next series [[TheNthDoctor the Tenth Doctor]] gets one for no real reason, saying the exact same line, solving the problem of the week which makes no sense at all, even for a show that runs on {{Timey Wimey Ball}}.

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