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A fairly common angle to this existential conundrum is a by-nature ethically or morally challenged character having decided to be good and posing the question (often to a more goody-two-shoes character) what is better: Being born good, or becoming good through great effort. Of course, since the implication is that the character is trying to turn morality into a competition so that they may lord their "good" status over others, framing themselves as superior to them, a legitimate question at this point may be if they actually really are "good" after all.
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* ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'': Played with during the ''Saber Wars 2'' event centering around Space Ishtar. The original Space Ishtar was a goddess split into two halves, her "good" and "evil" halves. These were sealed in the form of infant girls, but when Space Tokiomi found them, he decided to leave one sealed and raise the other as his daughter. The one he left sealed is stolen by an evil organization and raised to be their leader. The catch: [[spoiler:Space Tokiomi raised the ''evil'' half as his daughter, while the ''good'' half was stolen by the evil organization. This leads to some interesting characterization, as the "evil" half turns out to be a heroic individual thanks to her upbringing (with her only evil traits being a bit of greed and that she enjoys embarrassing people a little too much), while the good half tries to be an intimidating villain like her organization wants, but [[PokeThePoodle kind of sucks at it]]. Tokiomi decided to raise the evil half because he was curious if evil was inherent to her nature, and figured that if he could curb any evil tendencies, then both halves might be good in the end.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'': Played with during the ''Saber "Saber Wars 2'' 2" event centering around Space Ishtar. The original Space Ishtar was a goddess split into two halves, her "good" and "evil" halves. These were sealed in the form of infant girls, but when Space Tokiomi found them, he decided to leave one sealed and raise the other as his daughter. The one he left sealed is stolen by an evil organization and raised to be their leader. The catch: [[spoiler:Space Tokiomi raised the ''evil'' half as his daughter, while the ''good'' half was stolen by the evil organization. This leads to some interesting characterization, as the "evil" half turns out to be a heroic individual thanks to her upbringing (with her only evil traits being a bit of greed and that she enjoys embarrassing people a little too much), while the good half tries to be an intimidating villain like her organization wants, but [[PokeThePoodle kind of sucks at it]]. Tokiomi decided to raise the evil half because he was curious if evil was inherent to her nature, and figured that if he could curb any evil tendencies, then both halves might be good in the end.]]
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* In the Franchise/SherlockHolmes spin-off novel "The Spider's Web" by Philip Purser-Hallard, Holmes and Watson find out that this issue was part of the plan behind the apparent abandonment (really abduction) of the young Ernest Moncrieff (''Theatre/TheImportanceOfBeingErnest''); [[spoiler:a sergeant with a vendetta against Colonel Moncrieff attempted to abduct the infant Ernest and switch him with the sergeant's own son, intending to reveal the switch later on in life to prove that family history didn't define nobility. However, by the time Holmes has deduced this, the man who may have been the sergeant's son or the "real" Ernest Moncrieff has been killed as part of another conspiracy, and he and Watson conclude that it isn't worth trying to work out if the man currently known as Ernest Moncrieff is the "original" Ernest or the sergeant's son, as nobody would benefit from such a revelation]].

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* In the Franchise/SherlockHolmes spin-off novel "The Spider's Web" by Philip Purser-Hallard, Holmes and Watson find out that this issue was part of the plan behind the apparent abandonment (really abduction) of the young Ernest Moncrieff (''Theatre/TheImportanceOfBeingErnest''); (''Theatre/TheImportanceOfBeingEarnest''); [[spoiler:a sergeant with a vendetta against Colonel Moncrieff attempted to abduct the infant Ernest and switch him with the sergeant's own son, intending to reveal the switch later on in life to prove that family history didn't define nobility. However, by the time Holmes has deduced this, the man who may have been the sergeant's son or the "real" Ernest Moncrieff has been killed as part of another conspiracy, and he and Watson conclude that it isn't worth trying to work out if the man currently known as Ernest Moncrieff is the "original" Ernest or the sergeant's son, as nobody would benefit from such a revelation]].
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* In the Franchise/SherlockHolmes spin-off novel "The Spider's Web" by Philip Purser-Hallard, Holmes and Watson find out that this issue was part of the plan behind the apparent abandonment (really abduction) of the young Ernest Moncrieff (''Theatre/TheImportanceOfBeingErnest''); [[spoiler:a sergeant with a vendetta against Colonel Moncrieff attempted to abduct the infant Ernest and switch him with the sergeant's own son, intending to reveal the switch later on in life to prove that family history didn't define nobility. However, by the time Holmes has deduced this, the man who may have been the sergeant's son or the "real" Ernest Moncrieff has been killed as part of another conspiracy, and he and Watson conclude that it isn't worth trying to work out if the man currently known as Ernest Moncrieff is the "original" Ernest or the sergeant's son, as nobody would benefit from such a revelation]].
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* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'': Taylor the human was a cruel AlphaBitch. The Yeerk infesting her is a merciless TortureTechnician. When Tobias morphs into Taylor, he finds that her instinct has none of the cunning and hate he associates with her, just gentleness and joy by default, and fear of the real Taylor. Tobias concludes that Taylor was once an average girl, [[TraumaCongaLine before high school, a house fire, and Yeerk infestation]] molded her into what she is today.
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* "[[https://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-20099/grundy+Shaking+The+Cycle.htm Shaking the Cycle]]" features this being the subject of some thought by Dawn Thrace- Dawn Summers (''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'') dimensionally relocated to Caprica (''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'') to become Kara Thrace's sister- when she witnesses the various Cylon models, as she starts wondering if the personalities are all the same as well as their appearances or if something "assigns" each individual Cylon a personality. The idea of the Cylons all being the same is reinforced when Leoben tells Dawn that she can only consider herself 'safe' around others of his model, although he notes that some Fours and Eights might be receptive to letting her go based on their histories.
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* ''Series/TheUmbrellaAcademy2019'': Having known a kinder version of Ben in his timeline, Luther tells [[spoiler:the {{Jerkass}} Ben from the new timeline]] that he's genetically the same but just raised in a different environment, and that some version of Luther's Ben must still exist in him. It's even called the "nature versus nurture debate".
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* Explored with Gon and Killua in ''Manga/HunterXHunter''. Gon was raised to be a good kid who cares about others and helps people, while Killua was raised to be the next patriarch of the Zoldyck Family, an elite family of assassins. They fit in their roles well, but as the series progresses, Gon's naturally selfish attitude and BlueAndOrangeMorality begin to show, while Killua is shown to [[IJustWantToBeNormal want to be a normal kid.]]
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* ''{{Film/Twins}}'': Discussed. The scientists responsible for Julius and Vincent's creation were firmly on the side of Nature, to the point that they were willing to go through with some extremely unethical experiments to prove their point. Julius, on the other hand, [[CallingTheOldManOut calls the whole idea bullshit]], pointing out that Vincent (the "reject batch") was left to his own devices but still managed to survive and thrive in an environment that would have killed any of them, and could probably, given the opportunity to learn something other than con artistry, theft and cheating, have been the greatest of them all.

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* ''{{Film/Twins}}'': ''Film/Twins1988'': Discussed. The scientists responsible for Julius and Vincent's creation were firmly on the side of Nature, to the point that they were willing to go through with some extremely unethical experiments to prove their point. Julius, on the other hand, [[CallingTheOldManOut calls the whole idea bullshit]], pointing out that Vincent (the "reject batch") was left to his own devices but still managed to survive and thrive in an environment that would have killed any of them, and could probably, given the opportunity to learn something other than con artistry, theft and cheating, have been the greatest of them all.
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* ''WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019'': The episode "Being Harley Quinn" delves into Harley's life before becoming the Joker's henchwoman and brings into question just how much her villainy is a result of nurture. It's all but stated that young Harleen had an unhappy childhood with an extremely dysfunctional family. However, it's heavily implied her AxCrazy impulses are nature. Her attempts at playing with dolls involved a wife murdering a husband for cheating, she stalked her CelebCrush to the point legal actions needed to be taken, and she [[NoodleIncident may have]] killed a girl at her camp for spreading humiliating rumors about her. Harley believed she became a villain only because of the Joker [[spoiler:to the point she convinced herself he pushed her into the bath of chemicals when she had jumped willingly]], but towards the end of the episode, she fully realizes that she always had a choice. At most, one could interpret that the Joker only brought out her dark side to its fullest.
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* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction'', Mr. Mxyzptlk wonders if Superman and Supergirl would actually turn out the same no matter where on Earth they landed, with him creating a timeline where Clark Kent landed on "Kasnia" (read: [[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Soviet Union]]) and Linda Lee landed on Hollywood. Eventually they realize that something is wrong, with Superman being the one to trick Mr. Mxyzptlk int saying his name backwards to cancel out all of it.

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* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction'', Mr. Mxyzptlk wonders if Superman and Supergirl would actually turn out the same no matter where on Earth they landed, with him creating a timeline where Clark Kent landed on "Kasnia" (read: [[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Soviet Union]]) and Linda Lee landed on Hollywood. Eventually they both realize that something is wrong, with Superman being the one to trick Mr. Mxyzptlk int into saying his name backwards to cancel out all of it.
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* ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'': Played with during the ''Saber Wars 2'' event centering around Space Ishtar. The original Space Ishtar was a goddess split into two halves, her "good" and "evil" halves. These were sealed in the form of infant girls, but when Space Tokiomi found them, he decided to leave one sealed and raise the other as his daughter. The one he left sealed is stolen by an evil organization and raised to be their leader. The catch: [[spoiler:Space Tokiomi raised the ''evil'' half as his daughter, while the ''good'' half was stolen by the evil organization. This leads to some interesting characterization, as the "evil" half turns out to be a heroic individual thanks to her upbringing (with her only evil traits being a bit of greed and that she enjoys embarrassing people a little too much), while the good half tries to be an intimidating villain like her organization wants, but kind of sucks at it.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'': Played with during the ''Saber Wars 2'' event centering around Space Ishtar. The original Space Ishtar was a goddess split into two halves, her "good" and "evil" halves. These were sealed in the form of infant girls, but when Space Tokiomi found them, he decided to leave one sealed and raise the other as his daughter. The one he left sealed is stolen by an evil organization and raised to be their leader. The catch: [[spoiler:Space Tokiomi raised the ''evil'' half as his daughter, while the ''good'' half was stolen by the evil organization. This leads to some interesting characterization, as the "evil" half turns out to be a heroic individual thanks to her upbringing (with her only evil traits being a bit of greed and that she enjoys embarrassing people a little too much), while the good half tries to be an intimidating villain like her organization wants, but [[PokeThePoodle kind of sucks at it.it]]. Tokiomi decided to raise the evil half because he was curious if evil was inherent to her nature, and figured that if he could curb any evil tendencies, then both halves might be good in the end.]]
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* ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'': Played with during the ''Saber Wars 2'' event centering around Space Ishtar. The original Space Ishtar was a goddess split into two halves, her "good" and "evil" halves. These were sealed in the form of infant girls, but when Space Tokiomi found them, he decided to leave one sealed and raise the other as his daughter. The one he left sealed is stolen by an evil organization and raised to be their leader. The catch: [[spoiler:Space Tokiomi raised the ''evil'' half as his daughter, while the ''good'' half was stolen by the evil organization. This leads to some interesting characterization, as the "evil" half turns out to be a heroic individual thanks to her upbringing (with her only evil traits being a bit of greed and that she enjoys embarrassing people a little too much), while the good half tries to be an intimidating villain like her organization wants, but kind of sucks at it.]]
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* In ''Fanfic/ForgivenessIsTheAttributeOfTheStrong'', a My Hero Academia fanfiction, an eleven-year-old All for One travels forward in the time to the present. Whether young Hisashi is destined to become a villain is a theme of the story.
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Everyone knows about some of the fundamental questions to life - [[Series/BabylonFive who are you, what do you want]], [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist where did you come from, and where will you go]]?[[labelnote:*]][[WaxingLyrical Where did you come from]], [[Music/{{Rednex}} Cotton-Eyed Joe?]][[/labelnote]] Those are the "what" questions, but this is the "why". Why did you say that? Why did you do this? Why were you there?

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Everyone knows about some of the fundamental questions to life - [[Series/BabylonFive who are you, what do you want]], [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist want, where did you come from, and where will you go]]?[[labelnote:*]][[WaxingLyrical Where did you come from]], [[Music/{{Rednex}} Cotton-Eyed Joe?]][[/labelnote]] go? Those are the "what" questions, but this is the "why". Why did you say that? Why did you do this? Why were you there?
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* This is kind of explored, perhaps unintentionally, in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' with [[spoiler:Eren and Zeke, with regards to their father, Grisha]]. The latter was [[spoiler:brainwashed by his parents into believing that he was the hero who was going to save his people, and fed a bunch of propaganda from a young age about his parents' beliefs. Zeke ends up turning his parents into the authorities for being part of LaResistance.]] Meanwhile, the former, [[spoiler:was given a hands-off experience by Grisha, and not told anything about the world. Nevertheless, Eren ends up wanting to join the Survey Corps and help defeat titans and save people.]] Their differences in upbringing, despite [[spoiler:the same father]], is a point of content for [[spoiler:Zeke]], who refuses to believe that [[spoiler:Eren]] wasn't also brainwashed like he was, and can't understand that [[spoiler:Eren]] is acting on his own free will.
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* ''Literature/InCryptid'': A major theme in the books focusing on [[OrcRaisedByElves Sarah]] and her [[BewareTheMindReader species]]. For most of her life, Sarah thought that she and her mother were the only non-sociopathic [[BackstoryInvader Johrlac]]. Then she met [[spoiler:Mark]], who despite still having the GhostMemory that "normal" cuckoos get at their first instar, managed to turn out pretty okay (Sarah's mother had telepathically removed hers, and was herself born without it). They argue about the merits of leaving the Johrlac children with their latent GhostMemory, or removing it like what Angela did with Sarah. [[spoiler:It ends up being a moot point when Sarah deletes all their cultural memory packets to free up space for the HiveMind to use for the FormulaicMagic to get them all home.]]

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* ''Literature/InCryptid'': A major theme in the books focusing on [[OrcRaisedByElves Sarah]] and her [[BewareTheMindReader species]]. For most of her life, Sarah thought that she and her mother were the only non-sociopathic [[BackstoryInvader Johrlac]]. Then she met [[spoiler:Mark]], who despite still having the GhostMemory that "normal" cuckoos get at their first instar, managed to turn out pretty okay (Sarah's mother had telepathically removed hers, and was herself born without it). They argue about the merits of leaving the Johrlac children with their latent GhostMemory, or removing it like what Angela did with Sarah. [[spoiler:It ends up being a moot point when Sarah deletes all their cultural memory packets to free up space for the HiveMind to use for the FormulaicMagic to get them all home.back to Earth.]]

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* ''Literature/ThereIsNoEpicLootHereOnlyPuns'': Referenced in the chapter titled [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/there-is-no-epic-loot-here-only-puns-dungeon.590739/page-30#post-42123139 "Nature Vs Nurture"]].
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* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction'', Mr. Mxyzptlk wonders if Superman and Supergirl would actually turn out the same no matter where on Earth they landed, with him creating a timeline where Clark Kent landed on "Kasnia" (read: [[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Soviet Union]]) and Linda Lee landed on Hollywood. Eventually they realize that something is wrong, with Superman being the one to trick Mr. Mxyzptlk int saying his name backwards to cancel out all of it.
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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': It's left ambiguous if Goliad turned evil because she was made from the D.N.A. of WellIntentionedExtremist Princess Bubblegum, or because of Finn and Jake's rather poorly though out lessons while teaching her how to be a ruler. The show seems to go with nature [[AmbiguouslyEvil (which doesn't look good for PB)]] because Stormo, a similar creature made from [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Finn's]] D.N.A., refused to be tempted by Goliad's [[WeCanRuleTogether offer of ruling together]] and [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed itself]] to trap the both of them in a SealedEvilInADuel.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': It's left ambiguous if Goliad turned evil because she was made from the D.N.A. of WellIntentionedExtremist Princess Bubblegum, or because of Finn and Jake's rather poorly though out lessons while teaching her how to be a ruler. The show seems to go with nature [[AmbiguouslyEvil (which doesn't look good for PB)]] because Stormo, a similar creature made from [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Finn's]] D.N.A., refused to be tempted by Goliad's [[WeCanRuleTogether offer of ruling together]] and [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed itself]] to trap the both of them in a SealedEvilInADuel.an [[SealedEvilInADuel equally matched psychic duel]].
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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': It's left ambiguous if Goliad turned evil because she was made from the D.N.A. of WellIntentionedExtremist Princess Bubblegum, or because of Finn and Jake's rather poorly though out lessons while teaching her how to be a ruler. The show seems to go with nature [[AmbiguouslyEvil (which doesn't look good for PB)]] because Stormo, a similar creature made from [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Finn's]] D.N.A., refused to be tempted by Goliad's [[WeCanRuleTogether offer of ruling together]] and [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed itself]] to trap the both of them in a SealedEvilInADuel.
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* ''Literature/InCryptid'': A major theme in the books focusing on [[OrcRaisedByElves Sarah]] and her [[BewareTheMindReader species]]. For most of her life, Sarah thought that she and her mother were the only non-sociopathic [[BackstoryInvader Johrlac]]. Then she met [[spoiler:Mark]], who despite still having the GhostMemory that "normal" cuckoos get at their first instar, managed to turn out pretty okay (Sarah's mother had telepathically removed hers, and was herself born without it). They argue about the merits of leaving the Johrlac children with their latent GhostMemory, or removing it like what Angela did with Sarah. [[spoiler:It ends up being a moot point when Sarah deletes all their cultural memory packets to free up space for the HiveMind to use for the FormulaicMagic to get them all home.]]
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* One of the major plot points in the ''Fanfic/AftermathOfTheGames'' universe is that Twilight ends up in charge of raising a filly version of Starlight Glimmer because [[spoiler: unlike her canon counterpart, Starlight [[RedemptionRejection refused to surrender and atone for her actions]] during "The Cutie Re-Mark", so Twilight [[ShootTheDog was left with no choice]] but to [[{{Retgone}} wipe her out of existence]] by convincing the nine-year-old Starlight to run away from her OrphanageOfFear and become her apprentice]]. Twilight and everybody in the know about the filly's origins agrees that part of the reason why the original Starlight became a major psychopath was because spending her entire foal hood in an abusive orphanage prevented her from learning how to connect properly with other ponies, so they take extra care to raise her in a loving enviroment and build her a large support network of ponies that she's able to trust so she gets on the right path. However, because mental illnesses are a mix of both genetics and upbringing, [[RealityEnsues Starlight demonstrates early warning signs of her older self's fanatical behavior]] during ''Integration'', and Twilight fears the possibility that nothing she can do will make a difference.

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* ''WesternAnimation/FairlyOddParents: WesternAnimation/SchoolsOutTheMusical'': This is Flappy Bob's conflict. He was born as a clown who wants everyone to laugh and have fun, but his life was dictated by [[FunHatingVillain the Pixies]], who raised him to be a boring businessman whose goal in life is to create a "Learnatorium" that unironically imprisons children. Timmy fails to appeal to him the first time, but Flappy Bob soon learns that the Pixies were just using him, and embraces his roots as a fun-loving clown AND as a shrewd businessman to defeat them.






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** A prominent theme in the [[Recap/OnePieceWholeCakeIslandArc Whole Cake Island]] arc. Both [[spoiler:Sanji]] and [[spoiler:Big Mom]] were shown to have some very troubling pasts, yet the people they are today was the result of different circumstances. [[spoiler:Sanji]] was bullied horrifically as a kid by his father and brothers and locked away to rot. But thanks to the actions of his mother, his sister Reiju, and later [[spoiler:Zeff]], he became a kind hearted person who became strong enough to be one of the toughest pirates around and defend those he cares about. In contrast, [[spoiler:Big Mom]] was abandoned by her parents due to her abnormal strength, the inital person who did raise here was nothing more than a BitchInSheepsClothing using her for her own ends and the person after her seeing her as a meal ticket, with both encouraging her destructive behavior and turning [[spoiler:Big Mom]] into a literal monster. What's more, these are traits [[spoiler:Big Mom]] showcases to her own family who would sooner stab each other in the back then help one another unless [[spoiler:Big Mom]] commands it. [[spoiler:Pudding]] is more or less the middle ground with this, like [[spoiler:Sanji]], she was bullied as a kid and Big Mom didn't do anything to deter it, so she became evil as a result. However when actually shown true kindness, this causes a breakdown because ''no one'' showed real compassion to her before. Leaving her in a state of confusion at a critical moment.

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** A prominent theme in the [[Recap/OnePieceWholeCakeIslandArc Whole Cake Island]] arc. Both [[spoiler:Sanji]] and [[spoiler:Big Mom]] were shown to have some very troubling pasts, yet the people they are today was the result of different circumstances. [[spoiler:Sanji]] was bullied horrifically as a kid by his father and brothers and locked away to rot. But thanks to the actions of his mother, his sister Reiju, and later [[spoiler:Zeff]], he became a kind hearted person who became strong enough to be one of the toughest pirates around and defend those he cares about. In contrast, [[spoiler:Big Mom]] was abandoned by her parents due to her abnormal strength, strength; the inital person woman who did raise here took her in was nothing more than a BitchInSheepsClothing using her for her own ends ends; and the person man who raised her after her seeing that just saw her as a meal ticket, with both parental figures encouraging her destructive behavior and turning [[spoiler:Big Mom]] into a literal monster. What's more, these are traits [[spoiler:Big Mom]] showcases to her own family who family, some of whom would sooner stab each other in the back then help one another unless [[spoiler:Big Mom]] commands it. [[spoiler:Pudding]] is more or less the middle ground with this, this: like [[spoiler:Sanji]], she was bullied as a kid and Big Mom didn't do anything to deter it, so she became evil as a result. However However, when actually shown true kindness, this causes a breakdown because ''no one'' showed real compassion to her before. Leaving before, leaving her in a state of confusion at a critical moment.moment, and she later makes a HeelFaceTurn.
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** A prominent theme in the [[Recap/OnePieceWholeCakeIslandArc Whole Cake Island]] arc. Both [[spoiler:Sanji]] and [[spoiler:Big Mom]] were shown to have some very troubling pasts, yet the people they are today was the result of different circumstances. [[spoiler:Sanji]] was bullied horrifically as a kid by his father and brothers and locked away to rot. But thanks to the actions of his mother, Reiju and later [[spoiler:Zeff]], he became a kind hearted person who became strong enough to be one of the toughest pirates around and defend those he cares about. In contrast, [[spoiler:Big Mom]] was abandoned by her parents due to her abnormal strength, the inital person who did raise here was nothing more than a BitchInSheepsClothing using her for her own ends and the person after her seeing her as a meal ticket, with both encouraging her destructive behavior and turning [[spoiler:Big Mom]] into a literal monster. What's more, these are traits [[spoiler:Big Mom]] showcases to her own family who would sooner stab each other in the back then help one another unless [[spoiler:Big Mom]] commands it. [[spoiler:Pudding]] is more or less the middle ground with this, like [[spoiler:Sanji]], she was bullied as a kid and Big Mom didn't do anything to deter it, so she became evil as a result. However when actually shown true kindness, this causes a breakdown because ''no one'' showed real compassion to her before. Leaving her in a state of confusion at a critical moment.

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** A prominent theme in the [[Recap/OnePieceWholeCakeIslandArc Whole Cake Island]] arc. Both [[spoiler:Sanji]] and [[spoiler:Big Mom]] were shown to have some very troubling pasts, yet the people they are today was the result of different circumstances. [[spoiler:Sanji]] was bullied horrifically as a kid by his father and brothers and locked away to rot. But thanks to the actions of his mother, Reiju his sister Reiju, and later [[spoiler:Zeff]], he became a kind hearted person who became strong enough to be one of the toughest pirates around and defend those he cares about. In contrast, [[spoiler:Big Mom]] was abandoned by her parents due to her abnormal strength, the inital person who did raise here was nothing more than a BitchInSheepsClothing using her for her own ends and the person after her seeing her as a meal ticket, with both encouraging her destructive behavior and turning [[spoiler:Big Mom]] into a literal monster. What's more, these are traits [[spoiler:Big Mom]] showcases to her own family who would sooner stab each other in the back then help one another unless [[spoiler:Big Mom]] commands it. [[spoiler:Pudding]] is more or less the middle ground with this, like [[spoiler:Sanji]], she was bullied as a kid and Big Mom didn't do anything to deter it, so she became evil as a result. However when actually shown true kindness, this causes a breakdown because ''no one'' showed real compassion to her before. Leaving her in a state of confusion at a critical moment.
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* ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}'': Frankenstein believes the monster is naturally evil, but the monster believes that he became evil due to Frankenstein's immediate abandonment of him (and he's shown to be right).
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* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'': Beth and Rick get into an argument about whether or not Beth's sociopathic behavior as a child was caused by Rick's terrible parenting. Beth believes that she was acting out to get attention and while Rick admits he is a terrible parent he insists that Beth was born evil, and it is left ambiguous who is right.
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Everyone knows about some of the fundamental questions to life - [[Series/BabylonFive who are you, what do you want]], [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist where did you come from, and where will you go]]?[[labelnote:*]][[WaxingLyrical Where did you come from, Cotton-Eyed Joe?]][[/labelnote]] Those are the "what" questions, but this is the "why". Why did you say that? Why did you do this? Why were you there?

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Everyone knows about some of the fundamental questions to life - [[Series/BabylonFive who are you, what do you want]], [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist where did you come from, and where will you go]]?[[labelnote:*]][[WaxingLyrical Where did you come from, from]], [[Music/{{Rednex}} Cotton-Eyed Joe?]][[/labelnote]] Those are the "what" questions, but this is the "why". Why did you say that? Why did you do this? Why were you there?

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