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* The so-called Dark Ages revered Rome because the architecture was far beyond Europe's capability til Renaissance Italy.
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* In "Doctor Who", at least in the 2005 and onwards series, Human technology sometimes has barely advanced in billions of years. One episode has humans in the year 100 TRILLION, at the end of the universe, still using conventional guns and other tech. Although, this could be explained by the fact the Doctor states humans have evolved to various different forms during their history, including gas creatures, while always eventually returning to this form, so it's possible that technology has been lost and reinvented.

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* In "Doctor Who", at least in the 2005 and onwards series, Human technology sometimes has barely advanced in billions of years. One episode has humans in the year 100 TRILLION, at the end of the universe, still using conventional guns and other tech. Although, this could be explained by the fact the Doctor states humans have evolved to various different forms during their history, including gas creatures, while always eventually returning to this form, so it's possible that technology has been lost and reinvented.
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* In ''StargateUniverse'', it is revealed that, due to a TimeyWimeyBall, duplicates of the ''Destiny'' crew ended up on a habitable world 2000 years ago and were forced to establish a colony. While they had to do everything from scratch, lacking the necessary tools to construct anything beyond rudimentary housing at first, multiple {{Time Skip}}s show that the Novus colonists advanced pretty fast and had a decent-sized town (with modern architecture) within 3 generations. TimeSkip again to modern day. The Novus society has grown and expanded, but does not look much more advanced than modern-day Earth. Yes, the colonists had to struggle to start, but they had a huge head start with technology and science (admittedly, they do manage to cure several diseases that we still can't), so they should have advanced much further than what we see.
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*** Compare to the Covenant's advanced technology that they got by looting the LostTechnology of the [[{{Precursors}} Forerunners]]. It is implied that the Covenant only has a limited knowledge of how the technology works, and thus makes very inefficient use of it, compared to the humans making the most of their relatively primitive (but effective) technology. Or, for that matter, making improvements on tech they stole from the Covenant from time to time.
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** I highly disagree. There were many advances in technology between KOTOR and the film trilogies. Bacta tanks (more of a discovery than research but still), capital ships were able to hold many more weapons batteries (You know those Sith Destroyers which were the pinnacle of shipbuilding in their day? They were armed with 20 laser cannons and 4 turbolasers. Don't know the laser number on the Republic Hammerheads but they had 3 turbolasers. The late Republic and Imperial-era ships could hold ''hundreds'' and ''dozens,'' respectively. Furthermore, the Empire didn't greatly advance technology in any beneficial way. It spent most of its science budget on superweapons and torture devices that were only useful for keeping the terrified and discontent population in check. Nothing greatly beneficial to civilians' quality of life was ever made. The Empire also virtually halted the exploration of new territories, which had been a major source of innovation to the Republic because new alien civiliazations to trade with often meant new technology. The only interest Palpatine ever showed in alien science was Sii-Ruuvi [[PoweredByAForsakenChild entechment]] and [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt we all know that one turned out.]]

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** I highly disagree. There were many advances in technology between KOTOR and the film trilogies. Bacta tanks (more of a discovery than research but still), capital ships were able to hold many more weapons batteries (You know those Sith Destroyers which were the pinnacle of shipbuilding in their day? They were armed with 20 laser cannons and 4 turbolasers. Don't know the laser number on the Republic Hammerheads but they had 3 turbolasers. The late Republic and Imperial-era ships could hold ''hundreds'' and ''dozens,'' respectively. Furthermore, the Empire didn't greatly advance technology in any beneficial way. It spent most of its science budget on superweapons and torture devices that were only useful for keeping the terrified and discontent population in check. Nothing greatly beneficial to civilians' quality of life was ever made. The Empire also virtually halted the exploration of new territories, which had been a major source of innovation to the Republic because new alien civiliazations civilizations to trade with often meant new technology. The only interest Palpatine ever showed in alien science was Sii-Ruuvi [[PoweredByAForsakenChild entechment]] and [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt we all know that one turned out.]]



* Slightly averted in the Novelisation of ''StarTrek: The Motion Picture'' written by Gene Rodenberry (or at least with his name as author) talks about how a lot of the people on Earth are “New Humans” who have evolved to be more peaceful, less driven, and mentally calmer. Then you have people like Kirk who still use family names, still are willing to use violence, still have inner demons to drive them on…

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* Slightly averted in the Novelisation Novelization of ''StarTrek: The Motion Picture'' written by Gene Rodenberry Roddenberry (or at least with his name as author) talks about how a lot of the people on Earth are “New Humans” who have evolved to be more peaceful, less driven, and mentally calmer. Then you have people like Kirk who still use family names, still are willing to use violence, still have inner demons to drive them on…




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* Earth in the OldMansWar series by JohnScalzi. There still seems to be TV, Time Magazine, Newsweek, etc.. The Colonial Union keeps all the very high tech to itself and reminds Earth of this via an orbital elevator that should not exist via the physics they know.
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*** Not to mention that between KOTOR and the prequels were the highly destructive [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/New_Sith_Wars New Sith Wars]], a thousand-year period of more or less constant galaxy wide conflict and decline that regressed technology and infrastructure by a significant degree. By the end of the period, the Republic and the Jedi were so devastated that even though they decisively ended the (apparent) Sith threat, the only way to prevent the Republic's utter collapse was to institute a [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ruusan_Reformation massive decentralization]] that marked the fundamental end of the republic as it had been for 24,000 years before. So there's more than enough in the EU to justify relatively similarly levels of technology in the two eras, much like how (in Europe) TheLateMiddleAges and TheRenaissance are roughly equivalent to AncientRome despite occurring over a thousand years later.
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** In a recent episode, Ted was at an airport in 2021 where he comments that they live in a time where cell phones can project holograms, but flights are still cancelled due to drizzle.

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* In "Doctor Who", at least in the 2005 and onwards series, Human technology sometimes has barely advanced in billions of years. One episode has humans in the year 100 TRILLION, at the end of the universe, still using conventional guns and other tech. Although, this could be explained by the fact the Doctor states humans have evolved to various different forms during their history, including gas creatures, while always eventually returning to this form, so it's possible that technology has been lost and reinvented.


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**** I've always taken each day representing a year in general, although some things, like pregnancies would by that logic last 3 years.
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** One has to wonder whether {{Halo}} really counts as this trope considering that they ''do'' have advanced technologies and the like. They [[AestheticsOfTechnology simply don't look advanced and futuristic.]]

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** One has to wonder whether {{Halo}} really counts as this trope considering that they ''do'' have advanced technologies and the like. They [[AestheticsOfTechnology [[TheAestheticsOfTechnology simply don't look advanced and futuristic.]]
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** One has to wonder whether {{Halo}} really counts as this trope considering that they ''do'' have advanced technologies and the like. They [[AestheticsOfTechnology simply don't look advanced and futuristic.]]
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* After the end of ''ScaryGoRound'' in 2009, which has always taken place in the present (with seasonal changes and all), its SpinOff ''BadMachinery'' did a TimeSkip three years into the future. Here, fashions, technology ect. still looking the same is of course [[JustifiedTrope justified]], because you wouldn't expect the world changing all too much just within three years. In conclusion, this comic probably won't suffer from {{Zeerust}} from 2012 on.

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* After the end of ''ScaryGoRound'' in 2009, which has always taken place in the present (with seasonal changes and all), its SpinOff ''BadMachinery'' did a TimeSkip [[NextSundayAD three years into the future.future]]. Here, fashions, technology ect. still looking the same is of course [[JustifiedTrope justified]], because you wouldn't expect the world changing all too much just within three years. In conclusion, this comic probably won't suffer from {{Zeerust}} from 2012 on.
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* After the end of ''ScaryGoRound'' in 2009, which has always taken place in the present (with seasonal changes and all), its SpinOff ''BadMachinery'' did a TimeSkip three years into the future. Here, fashions, technology ect. still looking the same is of course [[JustifiedTrope justified]], because you wouldn't expect the world changing all too much just within three years. Therefore, this comic probably won't suffer from {{Zeerust}} from 2012 on.

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* After the end of ''ScaryGoRound'' in 2009, which has always taken place in the present (with seasonal changes and all), its SpinOff ''BadMachinery'' did a TimeSkip three years into the future. Here, fashions, technology ect. still looking the same is of course [[JustifiedTrope justified]], because you wouldn't expect the world changing all too much just within three years. Therefore, In conclusion, this comic probably won't suffer from {{Zeerust}} from 2012 on.
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* After the end of ''ScaryGoRound'' in 2009, which has always taken place in the present (with seasonal changes and all), its SpinOff ''BadMachinery'' {{Time Skip}}s three years into the future. Here, fashions, technology ect. still looking the same is of course [[JustifiedTrope justified]], because you wouldn't expect the world changing all too much just within three years. Therefore, this comic probably won't suffer from {{Zeerust}} from 2012 on.

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* After the end of ''ScaryGoRound'' in 2009, which has always taken place in the present (with seasonal changes and all), its SpinOff ''BadMachinery'' {{Time Skip}}s did a TimeSkip three years into the future. Here, fashions, technology ect. still looking the same is of course [[JustifiedTrope justified]], because you wouldn't expect the world changing all too much just within three years. Therefore, this comic probably won't suffer from {{Zeerust}} from 2012 on.
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* After the end of ''ScaryGoRound'' in 2009, which has always taken place in the present (with seasonal changes and all), its SpinOff ''BadMachinery'' [[TimeSkip]]s three years into the future. Here, fashions, technology ect. still looking the same is of course [[JustifiedTrope justified]], because you wouldn't expect the world changing all too much just within three years. Therefore, this comic probably won't suffer from {{Zeerust}} from 2012 on.

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* After the end of ''ScaryGoRound'' in 2009, which has always taken place in the present (with seasonal changes and all), its SpinOff ''BadMachinery'' [[TimeSkip]]s {{Time Skip}}s three years into the future. Here, fashions, technology ect. still looking the same is of course [[JustifiedTrope justified]], because you wouldn't expect the world changing all too much just within three years. Therefore, this comic probably won't suffer from {{Zeerust}} from 2012 on.
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* After the end of ''ScaryGoRound'' in 2009, which has always taken place in the present (with seasonal changes and all), its SpinOff ''BadMachinery'' [[TimeSkip]]s three years into the future. Here, fashions, technology ect. still looking the same is of course [[JustifiedTrope justified]], because you wouldn't expect the world changing all too much just within three years. Therefore, this comic probably won't suffer from {{Zeerust}} from 2012 on.
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Often happens during a DistantFinale. Not to be confused with NextSundayAD, where the time gap is realistically short. The polar opposite of TheSingularity.

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Often happens during a DistantFinale. Not to be confused with NextSundayAD, where the time gap is realistically short. Compare with MedievalStasis, which is more common in fantasy settings. The polar opposite of TheSingularity.
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** I highly disagree. There were many advances in technology between KOTOR and the film trilogies---bacta tanks (more of a discovery than research but still), capital ships were able to hold MANY more weapons batteries (You know those Sith Destroyers which were the pinnacle of shipbuilding in their day? They were armed with 20 laser cannons and 4 turbolasers. Don't know the laser number on the Republic Hammerheads but they had 3 turbolasers, . The late Republic and Imperial-era ships could hold ''hundreds'' and ''dozens,'' respectively. Furthermore, the Empire didn't greatly advance technology in any beneficial way. It spent most of its science budget on superweapons and torture devices that were only useful for keeping the terrified and discontent population in check. Nothing greatly beneficial to civilians' quality of life was ever made. The Empire also virtually halted the exploration of new territories, which had been a major source of innovation to the Republic because new alien civiliazations to trade with often meant new technology.

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** I highly disagree. There were many advances in technology between KOTOR and the film trilogies---bacta trilogies. Bacta tanks (more of a discovery than research but still), capital ships were able to hold MANY many more weapons batteries (You know those Sith Destroyers which were the pinnacle of shipbuilding in their day? They were armed with 20 laser cannons and 4 turbolasers. Don't know the laser number on the Republic Hammerheads but they had 3 turbolasers, . turbolasers. The late Republic and Imperial-era ships could hold ''hundreds'' and ''dozens,'' respectively. respectively. Furthermore, the Empire didn't greatly advance technology in any beneficial way. It spent most of its science budget on superweapons and torture devices that were only useful for keeping the terrified and discontent population in check. Nothing greatly beneficial to civilians' quality of life was ever made. The Empire also virtually halted the exploration of new territories, which had been a major source of innovation to the Republic because new alien civiliazations to trade with often meant new technology.
technology. The only interest Palpatine ever showed in alien science was Sii-Ruuvi [[PoweredByAForsakenChild entechment]] and [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt we all know that one turned out.]]
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** I highly disagree. There were many advances in technology between KOTOR and the film trilogies---bacta tanks (more of a discovery than research but still), capital ships were able to hold MANY more weapons batteries (You know those Sith Destroyers which were the pinnacle of shipbuilding in their day? They were armed with 20 laser cannons and 4 turbolasers. Don't know the laser number on the Republic Hammerheads but they had 3 turbolasers, . The late Republic and Imperial-era ships could hold ''hundreds'' and ''dozens,'' respectively. Furthermore, the Empire didn't greatly advance technology in any beneficial way. It spent most of its science budget on superweapons and torture devices that were only useful for keeping the terrified and discontent population in check. Nothing greatly beneficial to civilians' quality of life was ever made.

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** I highly disagree. There were many advances in technology between KOTOR and the film trilogies---bacta tanks (more of a discovery than research but still), capital ships were able to hold MANY more weapons batteries (You know those Sith Destroyers which were the pinnacle of shipbuilding in their day? They were armed with 20 laser cannons and 4 turbolasers. Don't know the laser number on the Republic Hammerheads but they had 3 turbolasers, . The late Republic and Imperial-era ships could hold ''hundreds'' and ''dozens,'' respectively. Furthermore, the Empire didn't greatly advance technology in any beneficial way. It spent most of its science budget on superweapons and torture devices that were only useful for keeping the terrified and discontent population in check. Nothing greatly beneficial to civilians' quality of life was ever made. \n The Empire also virtually halted the exploration of new territories, which had been a major source of innovation to the Republic because new alien civiliazations to trade with often meant new technology.
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** I highly disagree. There were many advances in technology between KOTOR and the film trilogies---bacta tanks (more of a discovery than research but still), capital ships were able to hold MANY more weapons batteries (You know those Sith Destroyers which were the pinnacle of shipbuilding in their day? They were armed with 20 laser cannons and 4 turbolasers. Don't know the laser number on the Republic Hammerheads but they had 3 turbolasers, . The late Republic and Imperial-era ships could hold ''hundreds'' and ''dozens,'' respectively. Furthermore, the Empire didn't greatly advance technology in any beneficial way. It spent most of its science budget on superweapons and torture devices that were only useful for keeping the terrified and discontent population in check. Nothing greatly beneficial to civilians' quality of life was ever made.

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* In VladimirVasilyev's ''BigKievTechnician'', it is the year 368,764, but everything looks like it has at the end of the 20th century, except that many cities are now [[MegaCity Mega Cities]]. The world is, inexplicably, also populated by fantasy races like elves and dwarves, although the short-lived humans are still the majority. Nothing has changed in at least 10,000 years (according to records), and most people forgot how things work. Technicians and scientists are the societal elite, as they know the "formulas" for taming and operating machines. Machines themselves are also somehow alive, or at least perceived that way. Nothing in the book explains how things got to this point. The ending of the book signals the EndOfAnEra of stagnation where most of the "tamed" machines shut down in the presence of manufactured ones, starting the age of rediscovery and progress.
** The short story collection ''Big Kiev Witcher'' includes more high-tech things like SpiderBots and deadly security fields that won't harm children or witchers.
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*** However, it could be for most of those examples, of using technology that ''works'', and is strong and robust. It's a case of BoringButPractical vs. CoolButInefficient; ground vehicles use tires and treads because, hey, they're simple and work. Guns have solid little micro-comps built in that'll keep working under just about any conditions. As for a simple reason behind this: the human race has been at war for its life for a generation. Efficient use of tech intended for large scale deployment saves alot on that level.
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Kria is softer, Abel is a kid, Devin is alive (until he isn\'t)... who\'s the same, again? Fa\'lina? Aaryana?


* In ''DanAndMabsFurryAdventures'', the world is kind of an odd mesh of modern and medieval trappings, suitable for a fantasy world. Fair enough, but in Abel's story, which begins ''four hundred years'' before the main plot... everything, ''everything'', is exactly the same. There is not a single visible difference to the scenery, and the characters who were alive in both time periods (except Destania, who [[RetiredCompleteMonster retired]] in the interim) are exactly alike in personality.

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* In ''DanAndMabsFurryAdventures'', the world is kind of an odd mesh of modern and medieval trappings, suitable for a fantasy world. Fair enough, but in Abel's story, which begins ''four hundred years'' before the main plot... everything, ''everything'', is exactly the same. There is not a single visible difference to the scenery, and the characters who were alive in both time periods (except Destania, who [[RetiredCompleteMonster retired]] scenery - other than Jyrras's inventions, things that are modern in the interim) main strip are exactly alike in personality.modern, and things that are pre-modern are pre-modern, with identical architecture and fashions.

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Dialogue in the seventh season of \'\'DesperateHousewives\'\' suggests that even accounting for \'caught up time\' the show is set about five years into the future.


** Because the series lagged behind "real-world time", the time skip on "Desperate Housewives" actually caught the series up to the present day.
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* The mid 21st century in [[FirstEncounterAssaultRecon ''F.E.A.R'']] is a strange example. While technology has advanced beyond what we have today (there are clone soldiers and beam rifles, for example), architecture and design seems to be roughly the same, people are still using [[ProductPlacement Dell XPS computers]], and cars look like they came straight out of the mid-90s. Going back, the game also assumes that ultra-high tech products existed in 2005 and even the 1970s if you had enough money to buy them and enough crazy to use them for evil.

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* The mid 21st century in [[FirstEncounterAssaultRecon ''F.''[[FirstEncounterAssaultRecon F.E.A.R'']] R.]]'' is a strange example. While technology has advanced beyond what we have today (there are clone soldiers and beam rifles, for example), architecture and design seems to be roughly the same, people are still using [[ProductPlacement Dell XPS computers]], and cars look like they came straight out of the mid-90s. Going back, the game also assumes that ultra-high tech products existed in 2005 and even the 1970s if you had enough money to buy them and enough crazy to use them for evil.
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* In {{Dark Shadows}}, when Barnabas and Julia travel to 1995, there are no noticeable changes in costume or technology.
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** Though Ted being [[DeadpanSnarker Ted]], it's likely that he's simply pointing out the lethargy of "today's youth".
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** [[HandWave Explained]] to some extent by the existence of the magical, long-lived Creature races. When you're 7000 years old, a mere four centuries isn't that long. Furthermore, many Creatures are said to dislike technology. Some view it as the recourse of feeble Beings who are too weak to survive without it, while others regard it as a threat to their power and slap anyone who gets too clever down. Jyrras is shown to be keeping a lot of new technology under wraps specifically to avoid this kind of attention.
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** Because the series lagged behind "real-world time", the time skip on "Desperate Housewives" actually caught the series up to the present day.

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** Because the series lagged behind "real-world time", the time skip on "Desperate Housewives" actually caught the series up to the present day.
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* ''BattlestarGalactica'' suffered from this, and the flashbacks to the pre-genocide Colonies got worse and worse as the series went on.
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* The mid 21st century in [[FirstEncounterAssaultRecon ''F.E.A.R'']] is a strange example. While technology has advanced beyond what we have today (there are clone soldiers and beam rifles, for example), architecture and design seems to be roughly the same, people are still using [[ProductPlacement Dell XPS computers]], and cars look like they came straight out of the mid-90s. Going back, the game also assumes that ultra-high tech products existed in 2005 and even the 1970s if you had enough money to buy them and enough crazy to use them for evil.
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***The "primitive" human weapons are pretty much always better than the "advanced" covenant stuff though, on the ground anyway.
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When the future doesn't seem all that futuristic and different from what a modern person would be used to, a setting may be stuck in a ModernStasis. Maybe a show that's mostly about family life in the present day has a FlashForward, TimeSkip, or DistantFinale and gets in way over its head. Maybe a science fiction setting bears an uncanny resemblance to the present day despite being set way more than TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture. In any case, things change much less than they really ought to. Worse than MedievalStasis in a way, considering how enormously and at which unprecedented speed the world has changed in just the last century.

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When the future doesn't seem all that futuristic and different from what a modern person would be used to, a setting may be stuck in a ModernStasis. Maybe a show that's mostly about family life in the present day has a FlashForward, TimeSkip, or DistantFinale and gets in way over its head. Maybe a science fiction setting bears an uncanny resemblance to the present day despite being set way more than TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture. In any case, things change much less than they really ought to. Worse than MedievalStasis in a way, considering how enormously and at which unprecedented speed the world has changed in just the last century.\n

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