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* CyranoDeBergerac: This trope is Lampshaded, Deconstructed and justified with Cyrano. ''Lampshaded'' by Le Bret when Cyrano fights against one hundred men when all Ligniere asked was to ''sleep at his house''. Later, Cyrano will rescue De Guiche white scarf from enemy lines… ''just he can boast to De Guiche''. Cyrano is badass enough to survive and win, but then the play ''deconstructs'' this trope showing how this attitude arises not only at perilous situations, but in all aspects of the life of a person: [[MartyrWithoutACause Cyrano throws away every chance of glory]] or [[LoveMartyr love he has]]. [[OnlySaneMan Le Bret]] continuously scolds Cyrano about this attitude. Cyrano simply [[JerkJustifications says that he is trying to live without compromises]], but the sad truth is that this trope is ''justified'' because Cyrano attitude is the logic conclusion of a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy badass]] without [[MommyIssues any self esteem]] raised in a MartyrdomCulture.

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* ''[[MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'' brings us Heero Yuy and Trowa Barton, both of whom seem to have "Hit the big ol' self-detonate button" as plan B rather than a last resort; fortunately the (relatively) less psychotic Gundam pilots are usually around to stop them. Trowa's Gundam once ''ran out of ammunition'' and he was going to blow himself up just to finish destroying everything around! Granted, Heavy-Arms wasn't really equipped with a lot of melee capabilities, but you're in a 50 foot humanoid robot! STEP ON THINGS!
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* Emiya Shirou of ''FateStayNight'', to an intentionally [[WhatAnIdiot infuriating degree]]. Many characters call him out on this, and it comes back to bite him in more ways than simply being smeared across the pavement. [[spoiler:Archer, and by extension Shirou himself,]] is a walking deconstruction of this trope, as is most clear in the Unlimited Blade Works route in the VisualNovel. The big reason this comes across as stupidity is because [[AdaptationDecay the anime never explains Shirou's behaviour like UBW does.]]

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* Emiya Shirou of ''FateStayNight'', to an intentionally [[WhatAnIdiot infuriating degree]]. Many characters call him out on this, and it comes back to bite him in more ways than simply being smeared across the pavement. [[spoiler:Archer, and by extension Shirou himself,]] is a walking deconstruction of this trope, as is most clear in the Unlimited Blade Works route in the VisualNovel. The big reason this comes across as stupidity is because [[AdaptationDecay [[AdaptationExplanationExtrication the anime never explains Shirou's behaviour like UBW does.]]
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->"You Optimuses '''do''' love to sacrifice yourselves, don't you?"\\
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->"You Optimuses '''do''' love to sacrifice yourselves, don't you?"\\
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-- '''Megatron''', ''BeastWars''



See HonorBeforeReason for the idea behind this trope. For the more depressing and less heroic version of this, see DeathSeeker.

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See HonorBeforeReason for the idea behind this trope. For the more depressing and less heroic version of this, see DeathSeeker.
DeathSeeker. Compare SuicidalPacifism.
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** Making it worse is that Voldemort quickly figures that out. In one of the few times he shows [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy any savvy]], he uses Harry's willingness to rescue loved ones by [[spoiler: sending fake memories of capturing Sirius Black in ''OrderOfThePhoenix'']]. By the time of ''TheDeathlyHallows,'' Voldemort accuses Harry [[spoiler:of letting others die protecting him in order to guilt-trip Harry into sacrificing himself during the Battle of Hogwarts]].
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* In the '''[[Film/{{Transformers}} 2007 Transformers film]]''', Optimus Prime spends considerable effort on convincing Sam to shove the All Spark into the opening on his (Optimus') chest, destroying it but killing him in the process. The All Spark has the potential to be pretty dangerous, so this seems reasonable... until we learn that it can ''also'' be destroyed by shoving it into Megatron, killing ''him'' instead. Since they presumably have to defeat Megatron one way or the other anyway, why is killing Optimus to destroy the All Spark even on the table? It was probably meant to seem heroic, but it comes off as pointlessly suicidal.

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* In the '''[[Film/{{Transformers}} [[Film/{{Transformers}} 2007 Transformers film]]''', film]], Optimus Prime spends considerable effort on convincing Sam to shove the All Spark into the opening on his (Optimus') chest, destroying it but killing him in the process. The All Spark has the potential to be pretty dangerous, so this seems reasonable... until we learn that it can ''also'' be destroyed by shoving it into Megatron, killing ''him'' instead. Since they presumably have to defeat Megatron one way or the other anyway, why is killing Optimus to destroy the All Spark even on the table? It was probably meant to seem heroic, but it comes off as pointlessly suicidal.
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* In the 2007 Transformers film, Optimus Prime spends considerable effort on convincing Sam to shove the All Spark into the opening on his (Optimus') chest, destroying it but killing him in the process. The All Spark has the potential to be pretty dangerous, so this seems reasonable... until we learn that it can ''also'' be destroyed by shoving it into Megatron, killing ''him'' instead. Since they presumably have to defeat Megatron one way or the other anyway, why is killing Optimus to destroy the All Spark even on the table? It was probably meant to seem heroic, but it comes off as pointlessly suicidal.

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* In the '''[[Film/{{Transformers}} 2007 Transformers film, film]]''', Optimus Prime spends considerable effort on convincing Sam to shove the All Spark into the opening on his (Optimus') chest, destroying it but killing him in the process. The All Spark has the potential to be pretty dangerous, so this seems reasonable... until we learn that it can ''also'' be destroyed by shoving it into Megatron, killing ''him'' instead. Since they presumably have to defeat Megatron one way or the other anyway, why is killing Optimus to destroy the All Spark even on the table? It was probably meant to seem heroic, but it comes off as pointlessly suicidal.
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* ''[[MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'' brings us Heero Yuy and Trowa Barton, both of whom seem to have "Hit the big ol' self-detonate button" as plan B rather than a last resort; fortunately the (relatively) less psychotic Gundam pilots are usually around to stop them. Trowa's Gundam once ''ran out of ammunition'' and he was going to blow himself up just to finish destroying everything around! Granted, Heavy-Arms wasn't really equipped with a lot of melee capabilities, but you're in a 50 foot humanoid robot! STEP ON THINGS!
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* In DoubleArts, the apparently cheerful and playful [[spoiler:SisterHeine]] turns out to be one of these. She [[spoiler:gave up all her hobbies and became determined to keep healing people until it killed her, [[TheAtoner to atone]] for arriving too late to save a Troi-infected patient]].

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* In DoubleArts, the apparently cheerful and playful [[spoiler:SisterHeine]] [[spoiler:Sister Heine]] turns out to be one of these. She [[spoiler:gave up all her hobbies and became determined to keep healing people until it killed her, [[TheAtoner to atone]] for arriving too late to save a Troi-infected patient]].patient]], even ignoring the advice of her superior Sisters to slow down.
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* In DoubleArts, the apparently cheerful and playful [[spoiler:SisterHeine]] turns out to be one of these. She [[spoiler:gave up all her hobbies and became determined to keep healing people until it killed her, [[TheAtoner to atone]] for arriving too late to save a Troi-infected patient]].
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** Oh my God, the Third Wife story. The fictional character with whom she most identifies is a character with no personality traits, who doesn't even get a ''name'', and exists solely to sacrifice her own life to save that of her husband and son. There's no hope for her.
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* In ''PokemonSpecial'', Team Galactic once trying to kidnap Platinum aside, Pearl tells Diamond that there's no reason to put themselves in danger by being involved with them after Diamond nearly gets himself killed stealing a camera from Cyrus. Diamond states that he refuses to standby and do nothing when there's an obviously evil and dangerous group running around.
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** It seems like a strangely suicidal plan until you realize that Optimus couldn't simply beat Megatron into submission in the middle of a densely populated city, and it's not like the he thought Sam could push the Cube into Megatron's chest without being crushed by him in the process. The Autobots were trying their damnest to keep the All Spark ''away'' from the Decepticons; had Optimus attempted to push the Cube into Megatron's chest instead, he would have risked the latter getting a hold of it and flying away. They were desperate and Sam acted on a whim at the last moment, so it does make sense.

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** [[TalkingIsAFreeAction Of course, there was plenty of time for an elaborate death scene.]]



* Averted in "{{A Very Potter Musical}}": As in the original "{{Harry Potter}}", Voldemort asks Harry whom he will be using as a human shield this time. Harry has already told everyone not to interfere, but Ron steps forward to volunteer before Hermione yanks him back.



* Averted in "{{A Very Potter Musical}}": As in the original "{{Harry Potter}}", Voldemort asks Harry whom he will be using as a human shield this time. Harry has already told everyone not to interfere, but Ron steps forward to volunteer before Hermione yanks him back.

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* Averted in "{{A Very Potter Musical}}": As in the original "{{Harry Potter}}", Voldemort asks Harry whom he will be using as a human shield this time. Harry has already told everyone not to interfere, but Ron steps forward to volunteer before Hermione yanks him back.
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* Averted in "{{A Very Potter Musical}}": As in the original "{{Harry Potter}}", Voldemort asks Harry whom he will be using as a human shield this time. Harry has already told everyone not to interfere, but Ron steps forward to volunteer before Hermione yanks him back.
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* One of the biggest strikes against Fallout 3 is that [[spoiler: you inexplicably turn into one of these in the ending]]
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* In the 2007 Transformers film, Optimus Prime spends considerable effort on convincing Sam to shove the All Spark into the opening on his (Optimus') chest, destroying it but killing him in the process. The All Spark has the potential to be pretty dangerous, so this seems reasonable... until we learn that it can also be destroyed by shoving it into Megatron, killing ''him'' instead. Since they presumably have to defeat Megatron one way or the other anyway, why is killing Optimus to destroy the All Spark even on the table? It was probably meant to seem heroic, but it comes off as pointlessly suicidal.

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* In the 2007 Transformers film, Optimus Prime spends considerable effort on convincing Sam to shove the All Spark into the opening on his (Optimus') chest, destroying it but killing him in the process. The All Spark has the potential to be pretty dangerous, so this seems reasonable... until we learn that it can also ''also'' be destroyed by shoving it into Megatron, killing ''him'' instead. Since they presumably have to defeat Megatron one way or the other anyway, why is killing Optimus to destroy the All Spark even on the table? It was probably meant to seem heroic, but it comes off as pointlessly suicidal.
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*In the 2007 Transformers film, Optimus Prime spends considerable effort on convincing Sam to shove the All Spark into the opening on his (Optimus') chest, destroying it but killing him in the process. The All Spark has the potential to be pretty dangerous, so this seems reasonable... until we learn that it can also be destroyed by shoving it into Megatron, killing ''him'' instead. Since they presumably have to defeat Megatron one way or the other anyway, why is killing Optimus to destroy the All Spark even on the table? It was probably meant to seem heroic, but it comes off as pointlessly suicidal.
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** How many times did Jean sacrifice herself? [[NeverLiveItDown Once]]. The Phoenix Force in Jean's form sacrificed itself once. (Seriously, can we change "Never Live It Down" back to "Jean Grey Escalation"?) The better candidate for this trope is [[{{Comicbook/Cable}} Cable]]. He made himself a giant target to prove to the world that things could be better if everyone put aside their differences and worked together- to kill him. And he would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that meddling {{Deadpool}} and his [[CrazyAwesome pesky insanity]]! (The dying part. We all know that people weren't going to get along.)
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** On the contrary, while you probably ''could'' keep fighting for hours, the bad guys were only minutes away from completing Kingdom Hearts and ruling the world. Sora didn't ''have'' hours. Hardly "without a cause."
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** There are MANY instances of this in the classic series as well, though the most egregious might be in "Mawdryn Undead" when he's willing to sacrifice his life so the villains can succeed in their plan (which happens to be their own deaths), in order to save two companions from extreme aging/de-aging (depending on which direction through time the TARDIS travels). Luckily [[ItMakesSenseInContext the Brigadier touches himself]] (not in THAT way)...
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* Touma of ''{{To Aru Majutsu no Index}}'' is even pointed out by certain character to be a Martyr Without A Cause. He helps any girl who comes to him with trouble and inexplicably ends up in the hospital after helping. He even helps Misaka Mikoto who [[spoiler:tries to near kill him and stalked him before he lost his memory and is someone he hardly even knows to begin with.]] [[ChickMagnet Every girl he helps also appears to fall in love him him after he helps them]].

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* Touma of ''{{To Aru Majutsu no Index}}'' is even pointed out by certain character to be a Martyr Without A Cause. He helps any girl who comes to him with trouble and inexplicably ends up in the hospital after helping. He even helps Misaka Mikoto who [[spoiler:tries to near kill him and stalked him before he lost his memory and is someone he hardly even knows to begin with.]] [[ChickMagnet Every girl he helps also appears to fall in love him with him after he helps them]].
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* In the second ShadowHearts, Gepetto accuses Yuri Hyuga of being this.
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** Considering that [[PersonOfMassDestruction Pain]] was slaughtering everyone, [[RedShirt]] and [[MauveShirt Heroes]] alike, and that Naruto was litterally the only one who had a chance of beating him, it is understandable for all of those other characters that [[CantCatchUp]] to get the heck out of the way. MartyrWithoutACause would have been if he submited to Pain for Pain's twisted idea of Peace.

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** Considering that [[PersonOfMassDestruction Pain]] was slaughtering everyone, [[RedShirt]] {{Red Shirt}}s and [[MauveShirt Heroes]] alike, and that Naruto was litterally the only one who had a chance of beating him, it is understandable for all of those other characters that [[CantCatchUp]] [=~Can't Catch Up~=] to get the heck out of the way. MartyrWithoutACause would have been if he submited to Pain for Pain's twisted idea of Peace.
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** Averted with Athena, who puts her life on risk while ''fully'' knowing that the Saints will fight for her sake ''and'' the worlds.

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** Averted with Athena, who puts her life on risk while ''fully'' knowing that the Saints will fight for her sake ''and'' the worlds. They're the one who fight her battles, but it's thanks to her that they even have time and chance to do that too.



** [[spoiler:Kurt Godel]] may be one of these too. [[spoiler:According to Nodoka's artifact, he himself was not involved in the attack on Negi's village, however Godel says that he has no intention of running from his sins and promises, once everything is over, to let Negi beat him to death if that's what it takes to satisfy Negi's desire for revenge.]]

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** [[spoiler:Kurt Godel]] may be one of these too. [[spoiler:According to Nodoka's artifact, he himself was not involved in the attack on Negi's village, however Godel says that he has no intention of running from his sins and promises, once everything is over, to let Negi beat him to death if that's what it takes to satisfy Negi's desire for revenge.]]]]'
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** There ''is'' kind of a cause for Pelleas, though. [[spoiler:As noted above, he signed a blood pact, and after trying to find out how to remove it, he is led to believe that his death would cause it's effect to end. He's misinformed, sure, but at least he isn't just trying to get himself killed for no reason.]]
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** There ''is'' kind of a cause for Pelleas, though. [[spoiler:As noted above, he signed a blood pact, and after trying to find out how to remove it, he is led to believe that his death would cause it's effect to end. He's misinformed, sure, but at least he isn't just trying to get himself killed for no reason.]]
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** Considering that [[PersonOfMassDestruction Pain]] was slaughtering everyone, [[RedShirt]] and [[MauveShirt Heroes]] alike, and that Naruto was litterally the only one who had a chance of beating him, it is understandable for all of those other characters that [[CantCatchUp]] to get the heck out of the way. MartyrWithoutACause would have been if he submited to Pain for Pain's twisted idea of Peace.
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* Emiya Shirou of ''FateStayNight'', to an intentionally [[WhatAnIdiot infuriating degree]]. Many characters call him out on this, and it comes back to bite him in more ways than simply being smeared across the pavement. [[spoiler:Archer, and by extension Shirou himself,]] is a walking deconstruction of this trope, as is most clear in the Unlimited Blade Works route in the VisualNovel. The big reason this comes across as stupidity is because [[AdaptationDecay the anime never explains Shirou's behavior like UBW does.]]

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* Emiya Shirou of ''FateStayNight'', to an intentionally [[WhatAnIdiot infuriating degree]]. Many characters call him out on this, and it comes back to bite him in more ways than simply being smeared across the pavement. [[spoiler:Archer, and by extension Shirou himself,]] is a walking deconstruction of this trope, as is most clear in the Unlimited Blade Works route in the VisualNovel. The big reason this comes across as stupidity is because [[AdaptationDecay the anime never explains Shirou's behavior behaviour like UBW does.]]

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* Emiya Shirou of ''FateStayNight'', to an intentionally [[WhatAnIdiot infuriating degree]]. Many characters call him out on this, and it comes back to bite him in more ways than simply being smeared across the pavement. [[spoiler:Archer]] is a walking deconstruction of this trope, as is most clear in the Unlimited Blade Works route in the VisualNovel.
** Thoroughly justified in/by Unlimited Blade Works. Shirou hasn't placed any value on his life since the fallout of the Fourth Grail War, effectively obliterated his sense of self; as a result, Shirou can only find meaning and satisfaction in the happiness of other people. This is why Shirou prioritizes the welfare of everyone else over his own well-being; taking other peoples' burdens on himself and generally being altruistic grants him the same satisfaction that most of us would derive from more self-serving actions (to quote the game, "his reward was the sole act of saving others"). The big reason this comes across as stupidity is because [[AdaptationDecay the anime never explains Shirou's behavior like UBW does.]]
** It's also arguably this tendency that gave rise to his [[FieldOfBlades unique magical talents]]--lacking a self-preservation instinct, he can use himself to power his magic.

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* Emiya Shirou of ''FateStayNight'', to an intentionally [[WhatAnIdiot infuriating degree]]. Many characters call him out on this, and it comes back to bite him in more ways than simply being smeared across the pavement. [[spoiler:Archer]] [[spoiler:Archer, and by extension Shirou himself,]] is a walking deconstruction of this trope, as is most clear in the Unlimited Blade Works route in the VisualNovel.
** Thoroughly justified in/by Unlimited Blade Works. Shirou hasn't placed any value on his life since the fallout of the Fourth Grail War, effectively obliterated his sense of self; as a result, Shirou can only find meaning and satisfaction in the happiness of other people. This is why Shirou prioritizes the welfare of everyone else over his own well-being; taking other peoples' burdens on himself and generally being altruistic grants him the same satisfaction that most of us would derive from more self-serving actions (to quote the game, "his reward was the sole act of saving others").
VisualNovel. The big reason this comes across as stupidity is because [[AdaptationDecay the anime never explains Shirou's behavior like UBW does.]]
** It's also arguably this tendency that gave rise to his [[FieldOfBlades unique magical talents]]--lacking a self-preservation instinct, he can use himself to power his magic.
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