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* Fiona in the ''MetamorCity'' novel ''[[http://www.metamorcity.com Making the Cut]]'', who gets forced into a breeding cell only because she's female, and it's made clear that anything other than birthing her own babies someday is not going to be acceptable to the [[PsychicPowers Psi]] Collective.


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* Fiona in the ''MetamorCity'' novel ''[[http://www.metamorcity.com Making the Cut]]'', who gets forced into a breeding cell only because she's female, and it's made clear that anything other than birthing her own babies someday is not going to be acceptable to the [[PsychicPowers Psi]] Collective.
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* In ''{{Sinfest}}'', [[http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2912 Monique's body tries to argue with her.]]
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** This trope actually gets twisted -- nature seems to consider genetics ''and'' population when deciding which two elves are to reproduce. The Skyriders, for example, have an ''inversion'' forced upon them: none of them had been able to conceive [[spoiler:aside from Winnowill via magic]] in centuries, despite very much wanting to have children among them.

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** This trope actually gets twisted -- nature seems to consider genetics ''and'' population when deciding which two elves are to reproduce. The Skyriders, for example, have an ''inversion'' forced upon them: none of them had been able to conceive [[spoiler:aside from Winnowill via magic]] in centuries, despite very much wanting to have children among them. The Go-Backs, on the other hand, have an amazingly short lifespan because of their warring with trolls and living in harsh conditions and breed like any other mammals; when the Wolfriders mention Recognition, Kahvi is surprised that they still bother with that. As with [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality most things, the Wolfriders have the ideal balance]], as they reproduce often enough to maintain a cycle of life and death, but still have Recognition and only breed genetically superior children. (Except for Pike).
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* Alluded to in Terry Pratchett's [[Nation]]- it's not clear exactly how old Daphne is, but her own culture certainly considers her a child; the people of the Nation, however, have pretty much a response of 'what do you mean you've not had a kid yet?'

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* Alluded to in Terry Pratchett's [[Nation]]- it's ''{{Nation}}''. It's not clear exactly how old Daphne is, but her own culture certainly considers her a child; the people of the Nation, however, have pretty much a response of 'what do you mean you've not had a kid yet?'
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* Alluded to in Terry Pratchett's [[Nation]]- it's not clear exactly how old Daphne is, but her own culture certainly considers her a child; the people of the Nation, however, have pretty much a response of 'what do you mean you've not had a kid yet?'
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** To be fair, she didn't intend to sleep with him the first time- she'd broken her arm and was using alcohol as a painkiller since it was all they had. Unfortunately, it was stronger than she'd thought.

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* While not strictly mandated, the Quarian race of aliens in ''MassEffect'', forced to live on an enormous fleet of mostly hand-me-down starships after having been exiled from their homeworld by their own robotic creations, will sometimes institute incentives for couples to have children. And sometimes the Quarians discourage this instead, depending on which way the fragile birth rate is leaning.
** Actually the encouragement to have children is the ''exception'' to the usual "One Child Only" rule.
** Its more complicated then that the Quarian Flotilla will ocassionally be put into a state of overpopulation so they have incentives to have fewer children and when they are underpopulated they will start giving things like tax breaks and other rewards to people who have multiple children. Fewer births is the norm though.

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* While not strictly mandated, the Quarian race of aliens in ''MassEffect'', forced to live on an enormous fleet of mostly hand-me-down starships after having been exiled from their homeworld by their own robotic creations, will sometimes institute incentives for couples to have children. And sometimes the Quarians discourage and this instead, trope may or may not be in effect depending on which way the fragile birth rate is leaning.
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* This is ubiquitous in {{Shipping}} fic. The happy couple ''will'' have kids, even if neither of them would ever want them in their canon personality and [[MisterSeahorse even if neither of them has a womb.]] There's no such thing as contraception, and miscarriages only happen when DeusAngstMachina decrees it. And if abortion exists, we're generally treated to a tedious speech about how GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion - sometimes right away, sometimes after a few equally tedious scenes where they pretend to consider it. If the character isn't a "good girl" to begin with, she generally becomes one in short order thanks to DeliverUsFromEvil.
** A FandomSpecificPlot for ''HarryPotter'' is the "Marriage Law fic," where the Ministry passes a law saying that every available Pureblood and Muggle-born have to get married and produce a child within x number of years. Generally used just to force Hermione with whichever Pureblood that you prefer. (Though [[DieForOurShip for some reason]] her [[OfficialCouple official]] LoveInterest [[RonTheDeathEater Ron]] [[FridgeLogic is never chosen]].)

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* This is ubiquitous in {{Shipping}} fic. The happy couple ''will'' have kids, even if neither of them would ever want them in their canon personality and [[MisterSeahorse even if neither of them has a womb.]] womb]]. There's no such thing as contraception, and miscarriages only happen when DeusAngstMachina decrees it. And if abortion exists, we're generally treated to a tedious speech about how GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion - -- sometimes right away, sometimes after a few equally tedious scenes where they pretend to consider it. If the character isn't a "good girl" to begin with, she generally becomes one in short order thanks to DeliverUsFromEvil.
** A FandomSpecificPlot for ''HarryPotter'' is the "Marriage Law fic," where the Ministry passes a law saying that every available Pureblood and Muggle-born have to get married and produce a child within x number of years. Generally used just to force Hermione with whichever Pureblood that you prefer. (Though prefer (though [[DieForOurShip for some reason]] her [[OfficialCouple official]] LoveInterest [[RonTheDeathEater Ron]] [[FridgeLogic is never chosen]].)
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* ''NineteenEightyFour''. Made hard for the protagonist as you must not derive pleasure from it and the women are literally trained to [[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland lie back and think of the party.]] Artificial insemination (or artsem in NewSpeak) is recommended.
* Camilla in ''{{Darkover}} Landfall'': After being stuck on a LostColony, she gets pregnant thanks to AppliedPhlebotinum and can't talk the doctor into giving her an abortion. She goes on to have a brood of children, and she doesn't seem to be happy about it. [[HeirClubForMen This ends up being a policy for all Darkovan women (particularly the Comyn).]] Later, Rohana Ardais also admits that she never wanted children, but had to have them.

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* ''NineteenEightyFour''. Made hard for the protagonist as you must not derive pleasure from it and the women are literally trained to [[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland lie back and think of the party.]] party]]. Artificial insemination (or artsem in NewSpeak) is recommended.
* Camilla in ''{{Darkover}} Landfall'': After being stuck on a LostColony, she gets pregnant thanks to AppliedPhlebotinum and can't talk the doctor into giving her an abortion. She goes on to have a brood of children, and she doesn't seem to be happy about it. [[HeirClubForMen This ends up being a policy for all Darkovan women (particularly the Comyn).]] Comyn)]]. Later, Rohana Ardais also admits that she never wanted children, but had to have them.



* Roger and Cecilia Checkerfield from TheCompanyNovels didn't want kids, and Roger got a vasectomy. Too bad that Roger was employed by Dr. Zeus, who forced him to adopt one of their scientific projects as his own son.

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* Roger and Cecilia Checkerfield from TheCompanyNovels ''TheCompanyNovels'' didn't want kids, and Roger got a vasectomy. Too bad that Roger was employed by Dr. Zeus, who forced him to adopt one of their scientific projects as his own son.



* ''TheIronStar'' has a thief who does ''not'' want to be a housewife or a mother or any kind of family woman. A Goddess overrules her (but the [[ArrangedMarriage husband the goddess chose for her]] agrees to make life luxurious for her.)
* The DoctorWho novel ''The Eyeless'' takes place on a world where 99% of the population has been wiped out. The couple of hundred remaining survivors have worked out a plan for how many children each women must have in order for the species to survive long term -and the loss of just a few children or potential parents could be devastating. The repopulation attempt is presented as an unfair, but necessary process, as it really ''is'' the only way their race is going to stay alive. At least one of the main characters, Alsa, is understandably upset about it, and her unwillingness to be a birthing machine for the rest of her life shows.
* The {{Warrior Cats}} don't often touch on this but in Bluestar's Prophecy, the title character is good with kits and raises her nephew after her sister's death but has no interest in having any of her own. [[spoiler: although it doesn't work out this way in the end]] Naturally one of the Clan elders tells her she needs to 'live her own life' now that her sister's son is grown. [[SarcasmMode Because in order to live your own life, you have to have and raise children.]]
* Lois McMaster Bujold's {{Vorkosigan}} series has a particularly odd one. While there was always an element of MandatoryMotherhood for Vor women, it was nevertheless understood and frequently referenced that many women might not want to have children, if only because, given the levels of technology available, it was a life-threatening risk every time. With the introduction of the uterine replicator into Barrayaran society, however, the concept of a woman who doesn't want children is erased, because the culturally acceptable 'excuse' for it is no longer valid.

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* ''TheIronStar'' ''The Iron Star'' has a thief who does ''not'' want to be a housewife or a mother or any kind of family woman. A Goddess overrules her (but the [[ArrangedMarriage husband the goddess chose for her]] agrees to make life luxurious for her.)
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* The DoctorWho ''DoctorWho'' novel ''The Eyeless'' takes place on a world where 99% of the population has been wiped out. The couple of hundred remaining survivors have worked out a plan for how many children each women must have in order for the species to survive long term -and -- and the loss of just a few children or potential parents could be devastating. The repopulation attempt is presented as an unfair, but necessary process, as it really ''is'' the only way their race is going to stay alive. At least one of the main characters, Alsa, is understandably upset about it, and her unwillingness to be a birthing machine for the rest of her life shows.
* The {{Warrior Cats}} ''{{Warrior Cats}}'' don't often touch on this but in Bluestar's Prophecy, ''Bluestar's Prophecy'', the title character is good with kits and raises her nephew after her sister's death but has no interest in having any of her own. own, [[spoiler: although Although it doesn't work out this way in the end]] end]]. Naturally one of the Clan elders tells her she needs to 'live "live her own life' life" now that her sister's son is grown. [[SarcasmMode Because in order to live your own life, you have to have and raise children.]]
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* Lois McMaster [=McMaster=] Bujold's {{Vorkosigan}} series ''VorkosiganSaga'' has a particularly odd one. While there was always an element of MandatoryMotherhood for Vor women, it was nevertheless understood and frequently referenced that many women might not want to have children, if only because, given the levels of technology available, it was a life-threatening risk every time. With the introduction of the uterine replicator into Barrayaran society, however, the concept of a woman who doesn't want children is erased, because the culturally acceptable 'excuse' for it is no longer valid.



** True, but prior to the introduction of the uterine replicator a cultural space existed in which it was possible for a woman to acknowledge not ''wanting'' children, if only for the reason of pregnancy being dangerous to life and health - even if she couldn't get out of actually having them. With the introduction of a technology intended to improve women's health and reproductive freedom, that space was erased, making MandatoryMotherhood even more present - and insidiously so - in Barrayaran culture.

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** True, but prior to the introduction of the uterine replicator a cultural space existed in which it was possible for a woman to acknowledge not ''wanting'' children, if only for the reason of pregnancy being dangerous to life and health - -- even if she couldn't get out of actually having them. With the introduction of a technology intended to improve women's health and reproductive freedom, that space was erased, making MandatoryMotherhood even more present - -- and insidiously so - -- in Barrayaran culture.






** King Hezekiah was struck with illness for not marrying and having kids, even though he had a good reason--he knew prophetically that one of his descendants would be evil. The prophet Isaiah told him he was obligated to have kids anyway, since one is supposed to obey God's commands while acknowledging that He is always in control of its ultimate outcome.

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** King Hezekiah was struck with illness for not marrying and having kids, even though he had a good reason--he reason -- he knew prophetically that one of his descendants would be evil. The prophet Isaiah told him he was obligated to have kids anyway, since one is supposed to obey God's commands while acknowledging that He is always in control of its ultimate outcome.



* Fiona in the MetamorCity novel [[http://www.metamorcity.com ''Making the Cut'']], who gets forced into a breeding cell only because she's female, and it's made clear that anything other than birthing her own babies someday is not going to be acceptable to the [[PsychicPowers Psi]] Collective.

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* Fiona in the MetamorCity ''MetamorCity'' novel [[http://www.''[[http://www.metamorcity.com ''Making Making the Cut'']], Cut]]'', who gets forced into a breeding cell only because she's female, and it's made clear that anything other than birthing her own babies someday is not going to be acceptable to the [[PsychicPowers Psi]] Collective.




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** True, but prior to the introduction of the uterine replicator a cultural space existed in which it was possible for a woman to acknowledge not ''wanting'' children, if only for the reason of pregnancy being dangerous to life and health - even if she couldn't get out of actually having them. With the introduction of a technology intended to improve women's health and reproductive freedom, that space was erased, making MandatoryMotherhood even more present - and insidiously so - in Barrayaran culture.
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* Subverted in Ursula Vernon's ''BlackDogs'', where a character is raped for the sake of producing a powerful heir, but she aborts the zygote and to ensure that it never happens again she sterilizes herself.

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* Subverted in Ursula Vernon's ''BlackDogs'', ''Literature/BlackDogs'', where a character is raped for the sake of producing a powerful heir, but she aborts the zygote and to ensure that it never happens again she sterilizes herself.
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* In TheBible, mankind of ordered to "be fruitful and multiply," which has traditionally been seen as a command to have children if at all possible. The Patriarchs and Matriarchs, for example, went through a lot knowing that God's plans relied on them producing the Jewish people, as did Moses' parents in the wake of Pharaoh's decree.
** Onan was killed by God for refusing to have a child with Tamar, his dead brother's wife, as per the laws of levirate marriage. Of course, he told her he ''would'' and then performed ''coitus interruptus'' to prevent it, so he was arguably sort of an AssholeVictim.
** King Hezekiah was struck with illness for not marrying and having kids, even though he had a good reason--he knew prophetically that one of his descendants would be evil. The prophet Isaiah told him he was obligated to have kids anyway, since one is supposed to obey God's commands while acknowledging that He is always in control of its ultimate outcome.
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** A FandomSpecificPlot for ''HarryPotter'' is the "Marriage Law fic," where the Ministry passes a law saying that every available Pureblood and Muggle-born have to get married and produce a child within x number of years. Generally used just to force Hermione with whichever Pureblood that you prefer. (Though [[DieForOurShip for some reason]] her [[OfficialCouple official]] LoveInterest [[RonTheDeathEater Ron]] [[FridgeLogic is never chosen]].)

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* {{Shrek}} was very much in favor of never having children; as shown in the third film of the franchise, he was afraid of being as terrible a father as his own father had been. He never shares his misgivings with Fiona, however, and turns out to be a really good father to his triplets.
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* {{Shrek}} was very much in favor of never having children; as shown in the third film of the franchise, he was afraid of being as terrible a father as his own father had been. He never shares his misgivings with Fiona, however, and turns out to be a really good father to his triplets.
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* Kris in the ''Freedom'' series by AnneMcCaffrey. Another LostColony situation in which everyone has to breed. But Kris is involved in an InterspeciesRomance and is apathetic on having kids (and definitely against cheating), even if her alien boyfriend doesn't mind. Solution: uncharacteristic [[DrowningMySorrows drinking to the point of ''blacking out'' and having sex with other humans.]] [[WhosYourDaddy Twice.]]
* In the ''LiadenUniverse'' books by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller, everyone is required to have one temporary ArrangedMarriage and produce a child to be their heir, to whom he or she is a [[ParentalAbandonment legal single parent]]. They can foster the kid to be raised by someone else, but Everyone. Must. Have. One. (The Liadens nearly went extinct due to a PlanetEater species.)

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* Kris in the ''Freedom'' series by AnneMcCaffrey. Another LostColony situation in which everyone has to breed. But Kris is involved in an InterspeciesRomance and is apathetic on having kids (and definitely against cheating), even if her alien boyfriend doesn't mind. Solution: uncharacteristic [[DrowningMySorrows drinking drinking]] to the point of ''blacking out'' and having sex with other humans.]] [[WhosYourDaddy Twice.]]
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* In the ''LiadenUniverse'' books by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller, everyone is required to have one temporary ArrangedMarriage and produce a child to be their heir, to whom he or she is a [[ParentalAbandonment legal single parent]].parent. They can foster the kid to be raised by someone else, but Everyone. Must. Have. One. (The Liadens nearly went extinct due to a PlanetEater species.)



* Technically not an example of childfreedom (eventually they are okay with the child, if not the conception), but Lucia and Ben of ''Devil's Due'' would have liked to have officially started dating and having sex on their own recognizance and then decided for themselves, rather than having her be kidnapped while she's passed out due to anthrax poisoning and scientifically raped/artificially inseminated with Ben's sperm by the Cross Society.

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* Technically not an example of childfreedom (eventually they are okay with the child, if not the conception), but Lucia and Ben of ''Devil's Due'' would have liked to have officially started dating and having sex on their own recognizance and then decided for themselves, rather than having her be kidnapped while she's passed out due to anthrax poisoning and scientifically raped/artificially inseminated with Ben's sperm by the Cross Society.



* Lois McMaster Bujold's {{Vorkosigan}} series has a particularly odd one. While there was always an element of MandatoryMotherhood for Vor women, it was nevertheless understood and frequently referenced that many women might not want to have children, if only because, given the levels of technology available, it was a life-threatening risk every time. With the introduction of the uterine replicator into Barrayaran society, however, the concept of a woman who doesn't want children is erased, because the culturally (or authorially?) acceptable 'excuse' for it is no longer valid.

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* Lois McMaster Bujold's {{Vorkosigan}} series has a particularly odd one. While there was always an element of MandatoryMotherhood for Vor women, it was nevertheless understood and frequently referenced that many women might not want to have children, if only because, given the levels of technology available, it was a life-threatening risk every time. With the introduction of the uterine replicator into Barrayaran society, however, the concept of a woman who doesn't want children is erased, because the culturally (or authorially?) acceptable 'excuse' for it is no longer valid.



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* Gabrielle on ''DesperateHousewives''. She's RaisedCatholic, so she can't have an abortion (but can have a ConvenientMiscarriage).
** Recently, [[WordOfGod Word of God]] said about Lynette's recent unplanned pregnancy that [[ExecutiveMeddling the network would never allow him to write an abortion storyline on the show,]] but casually mentioned that you ''can'' have a [[ConvenientMiscarriage miscarriage.]]
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* Gabrielle on ''DesperateHousewives''. She's RaisedCatholic, so she can't have an abortion (but can have a ConvenientMiscarriage).
** Recently, [[WordOfGod Word of God]] said about Lynette's recent unplanned pregnancy that [[ExecutiveMeddling the network would never allow him to write an abortion storyline on the show,]] but casually mentioned that you ''can'' have a [[ConvenientMiscarriage miscarriage.]]
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* In ''{{Exalted}}'', Terrestrials are strongly encouraged to marry and have babies regardless of sexual orientation, since theirs is the only sort of Exaltation that's hereditary.

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** Its more complicated then that the Quarian Flotilla will ocassionally be put into a state of overpopulation so they have incentives to have fewer children and when they are underpopulated they will start giving things like tax breaks and other rewards to people who have multiple children. Fewer berths is the norm though.

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Yeah, but preferring motherhood is not the same as using force.


* [[DichterUndDenker German philosopher]] Oswald Spengler claimed in his non-fiction book ''{{The Decline of the West}}'' that people who marry (if at all) to find a SoulMate but not to have children are decadent.

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* NineteenEightyFour. Made hard for the protagonist as you must not derive pleasure from it and the women are literally trained to [[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland lie back and think of the party.]] Artificial insemination (or artsem in NewSpeak) is recommended.

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* NineteenEightyFour.''NineteenEightyFour''. Made hard for the protagonist as you must not derive pleasure from it and the women are literally trained to [[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland lie back and think of the party.]] Artificial insemination (or artsem in NewSpeak) is recommended.



* TheIronStar has a thief who does ''not'' want to be a housewife or a mother or any kind of family woman. A Goddess overrules her (but the [[ArrangedMarriage husband the goddess chose for her]] agrees to make life luxurious for her.)

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* TheIronStar ''TheIronStar'' has a thief who does ''not'' want to be a housewife or a mother or any kind of family woman. A Goddess overrules her (but the [[ArrangedMarriage husband the goddess chose for her]] agrees to make life luxurious for her.)



* [[DichterUndDenker German philosopher]] Oswald Spengler claimed in his non-fiction book ''{{The Decline of the West}}'' that people who marry (if at all) to find a SoulMate but not to have children are decadent.



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* Fiona in the [[http://www.metamorcity.com ''Metamor City'']] novel ''Making the Cut'', who gets forced into a breeding cell only because she's female, and it's made clear that anything other than birthing her own babies someday is not going to be acceptable to the [[PsychicPowers Psi]] Collective.

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* Fiona in the the MetamorCity novel [[http://www.metamorcity.com ''Metamor City'']] novel ''Making the Cut'', Cut'']], who gets forced into a breeding cell only because she's female, and it's made clear that anything other than birthing her own babies someday is not going to be acceptable to the [[PsychicPowers Psi]] Collective.
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* A sore point for many fans of ''WerewolfTheApocalypse'' is how werewolves are expected to marry kinfolk (humans who carry the recessive shapeshifter gene) and hopefully make werewolf babies, since lycanthropy is passed through plain old sexual reproduction in this game, regardless of whether or not either one has other plans. It's treated like ArrangedMarriage at best and flat-out rape at worst.
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blatantly negative. Somebody familiar with the film please rewrite the example, but it\'s not worth keeping up in it\'s current state.


* The SoBadItsHorrible garbage that is ''Four Christmases'' starts off with a couple who are refreshingly free from the cloying, boring Hollywood tropes. They spend Christmas doing what they want to do rather than spending time with their lousy dysfunctional families, they don't want to waste time and ruin their lives by having kids as they're both young and enjoying themselves and they don't want to bother with all that marriage junk. By films end ALL of that has changed and they've had their first child. Because, of course, they have to "Learn a lesson". In this case, you can't be happy unless you've got a man and a baby. (Eyeroll)
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** Barrayar is still somewhat underpopulated even during Miles's young adulthood, and as his mother points out, traditionally the planet has had to struggle to maintain, let alone increase, its population. Plus the Vor are aristocracy, so it literally ''is'' mandatory for both men and women to have children if they want their line to continue. It's pretty much ingrained in the entire planet's society.
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* Lois McMaster Bujold's {{Vorkosigan}} series has a particularly odd one. While there was always an element of MandatoryMotherhood for Vor women, it was nevertheless understood and frequently referenced that many women might not want to have children, if only because, given the levels of technology available, it was a life-threatening risk every time. With the introduction of the uterine replicator into Barrayaran society, however, the concept of a woman who doesn't want children is erased, because the culturally (or authorially?) acceptable 'excuse' for it is no longer valid.
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* GreysAnatomy. God forbid Callie and Arizona break up over this issue, Arizona has to be converted first. Though otherwise the show is pretty anti-child.

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I\'m sorry, but this trope was about to be cut when it was about authors, writers or executives not allowing characters to remain characters. It was changed to characters not allowing characters to remain childless. This quote refers to the former.


--> ''"Tell me --- Has there ever been a film where a character was expressed a reluctance to have children, or didn't particularly care for them, and then was permitted simply to hold to their opinion? At any rate, I’m pretty certain that no character in a PG-13 summer blockbuster ever was. So if you are such a character, and you do express such a reluctance, rest assured that by the end of the film, you will have been taught the error of your ways. With extreme prejudice."''
-->-- ''' Elizabeth A. Kingsley''', on [[http://www.aycyas.com/jurassicpark.htm And You Call Yourself A Scientist]], in her review of ''JurassicPark''.
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* This is ubiquitous in {{Shipping}} fic. The happy couple ''will'' have kids, even if neither of them would ever want them in their canon personality and [[MisterSeahorse even if neither of them has a womb.]] There's no such thing as contraception or abortion, and miscarriages only happen when DeusAngstMachina decrees it.
** Oh, abortion exists. In such works, we're generally treated to a tedious speech about how GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion - sometimes right away, sometimes after a few equally tedious scenes where they pretend to consider it. If the character isn't a "good girl" to begin with, she generally becomes one in short order thanks to DeliverUsFromEvil.

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Also, despite the name, this trope is not limited to female characters.
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* One of the reasons Anthony is so despised in the ''ForBetterOrForWorse'' fandom is the [[UnfortunateImplications implied subtext]] that it was he who pressured his wife Therese into having a child that she didn't want by agreeing to be the primary care-giver, then reneging on the agreement just as Therese was going through postpartum depression. We are explicitly meant to see Therese as an unnatural monster for not wanting children in the first place (to the point where she wholesale abandons child, husband and all not much later) and Anthony as the poor put-upon hubby who 'tries to love' his wife despite her refusal to make them a 'real family'.

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* One of the reasons Anthony is so despised in the ''ForBetterOrForWorse'' fandom is the [[UnfortunateImplications implied subtext]] that it was he who pressured his wife Therese Thérèse into having a child that she didn't want by agreeing to be the primary care-giver, then reneging on the agreement just as Therese Thérèse was going through postpartum depression. We are explicitly meant to see Therese Thérèse as an unnatural monster for not wanting children in the first place (to the point where she wholesale abandons child, husband and all not much later) and Anthony as the poor put-upon hubby who 'tries to love' his wife despite her refusal to make them a 'real family'.
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* The {{Warrior Cats}} don't often touch on this but in Bluestar's Prophecy, the title character is good with kits and raises her nephew after her sister's death but has no interest in having any of her own. [[spoiler: although it doesn't work out this way in the end]] Naturally one of the Clan elders tells her she needs to 'live her own life' now that her sister's son is grown. [[SarcasmMode Because in order to live your own life, you have to have and raise children.]]

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Making --> ''"Tell me --- Has there ever been a film where a character was expressed a reluctance to have children, or didn't particularly care for them, and then was permitted simply to hold to their opinion? At any rate, I’m pretty certain that no character in a PG-13 summer blockbuster ever was. So if you are such a character, and you do express such a reluctance, rest assured that by the page to move end of the discussion. Please film, you will have been taught the error of your ways. With extreme prejudice."''
-->-- ''' Elizabeth A. Kingsley''', on [[http://www.aycyas.com/jurassicpark.htm And You Call Yourself A Scientist]], in her review of ''JurassicPark''.

We have a character who, while fertile, very much does not want children. But society, or the law, or [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny]], will not let her get away with that easily.

Maybe there's a problem in the HeirClubForMen and she doesn't want to be involved but, since she's married to the fella needing the heir, she can't readily escape it. Or she's in a society that's gone through a [[ApocalypseHow class-2 apocalypse]], which is urging every fertile woman to repopulate the species; but she has desires or concerns more important to her than the species.

Maybe she's been prophesied to be the mother of the ChosenOne or TheMessiah, but she wants to ScrewDestiny anyway. Or she's [[ApocalypseMaiden prophesied to be the mother of]] TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt and is ''desperate'' to ScrewDestiny.

Or maybe she's already pregnant with the kid she adamantly doesn't want but has had abortion forbidden her for legal or moral reasons.

Whatever. She would rather not have children, but the law or the universe is doing its best to stop her, demanding she have children or else. (There must be a serious "or else" involved.) The law and the universe generally win these fights, but it still can be interesting to watch it go down.

Contrast ConvenientMiscarriage.

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[[folder:Comic Books]]
* In ''ElfQuest'', nature decides when two elves are ready to have a child, and the elves aren't allowed to protest. This turns into a MateOrDie situation for several elves, most prominently Dewshine, who ''hates'' the mate that was chosen for her by destiny. But since BabiesMakeEverythingBetter, she loves her child regardless.
** This trope actually gets twisted -- nature seems to consider genetics ''and'' population when deciding which two elves are to reproduce. The Skyriders, for example, have an ''inversion'' forced upon them: none of them had been able to conceive [[spoiler:aside from Winnowill via magic]] in centuries, despite very much wanting to have children among them.
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[[folder:Fan Fiction]]
* This is ubiquitous in {{Shipping}} fic. The happy couple ''will'' have kids, even if neither of them would ever want them in their canon personality and [[MisterSeahorse even if neither of them has a womb.]] There's no such thing as contraception or abortion, and miscarriages only happen when DeusAngstMachina decrees it.
** Oh, abortion exists. In such works, we're generally treated to a tedious speech about how GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion - sometimes right away, sometimes after a few equally tedious scenes where they pretend to consider it. If the character isn't a "good girl" to begin with, she generally becomes one in short order thanks to DeliverUsFromEvil.

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[[folder:Film]]
* {{Shrek}} was very much in favor of never having children; as shown in the third film of the franchise, he was afraid of being as terrible a father as his own father had been. He never shares his misgivings with Fiona, however, and turns out to be a really good father to his triplets.
* The SoBadItsHorrible garbage that is ''Four Christmases'' starts off with a couple who are refreshingly free from the cloying, boring Hollywood tropes. They spend Christmas doing what they want to do rather than spending time with their lousy dysfunctional families, they
don't cutlist this.want to waste time and ruin their lives by having kids as they're both young and enjoying themselves and they don't want to bother with all that marriage junk. By films end ALL of that has changed and they've had their first child. Because, of course, they have to "Learn a lesson". In this case, you can't be happy unless you've got a man and a baby. (Eyeroll)
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[[folder:Literature]]
* NineteenEightyFour. Made hard for the protagonist as you must not derive pleasure from it and the women are literally trained to [[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland lie back and think of the party.]] Artificial insemination (or artsem in NewSpeak) is recommended.
* Camilla in ''{{Darkover}} Landfall'': After being stuck on a LostColony, she gets pregnant thanks to AppliedPhlebotinum and can't talk the doctor into giving her an abortion. She goes on to have a brood of children, and she doesn't seem to be happy about it. [[HeirClubForMen This ends up being a policy for all Darkovan women (particularly the Comyn).]] Later, Rohana Ardais also admits that she never wanted children, but had to have them.
* Jory in S.L. Viehl's ''Blade Dancer'', due to StrangledByTheRedString. You two must MateOrDie, and he wants kids. Although she wasn't pregnant yet by the end of the book, it was made pretty clear that it'd happen eventually.
* Kris in the ''Freedom'' series by AnneMcCaffrey. Another LostColony situation in which everyone has to breed. But Kris is involved in an InterspeciesRomance and is apathetic on having kids (and definitely against cheating), even if her alien boyfriend doesn't mind. Solution: uncharacteristic [[DrowningMySorrows drinking to the point of ''blacking out'' and having sex with other humans.]] [[WhosYourDaddy Twice.]]
* In the ''LiadenUniverse'' books by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller, everyone is required to have one temporary ArrangedMarriage and produce a child to be their heir, to whom he or she is a [[ParentalAbandonment legal single parent]]. They can foster the kid to be raised by someone else, but Everyone. Must. Have. One. (The Liadens nearly went extinct due to a PlanetEater species.)
* Roger and Cecilia Checkerfield from TheCompanyNovels didn't want kids, and Roger got a vasectomy. Too bad that Roger was employed by Dr. Zeus, who forced him to adopt one of their scientific projects as his own son.
* In PatriciaAMcKillip's ''The Bell At Sealey Head'', Ysabo is told the reason she must submit to the ArrangedMarriage is to have a child; her mother and grandmother are baffled by her resistance, since she must have one.
* In DianeDuane's ''TheTaleOfFive'' series, [[EveryoneIsBi the entire human race is bisexual]] and both gay and poly marriages are common, but the Goddess requires that everyone must have at least one child at some point.
* Technically not an example of childfreedom (eventually they are okay with the child, if not the conception), but Lucia and Ben of ''Devil's Due'' would have liked to have officially started dating and having sex on their own recognizance and then decided for themselves, rather than having her be kidnapped while she's passed out due to anthrax poisoning and scientifically raped/artificially inseminated with Ben's sperm by the Cross Society.
* In Margaret Atwood's ''[[TheHandmaidsTale The Handmaid's Tale]]'', the Republic of Gilead has an entire caste of women (the Handmaids) whose sole function is to breed. Abortion and birth control for any woman are outlawed and punishable by the death penalty.
* Subverted in Ursula Vernon's ''BlackDogs'', where a character is raped for the sake of producing a powerful heir, but she aborts the zygote and to ensure that it never happens again she sterilizes herself.
* TheIronStar has a thief who does ''not'' want to be a housewife or a mother or any kind of family woman. A Goddess overrules her (but the [[ArrangedMarriage husband the goddess chose for her]] agrees to make life luxurious for her.)
* The DoctorWho novel ''The Eyeless'' takes place on a world where 99% of the population has been wiped out. The couple of hundred remaining survivors have worked out a plan for how many children each women must have in order for the species to survive long term -and the loss of just a few children or potential parents could be devastating. The repopulation attempt is presented as an unfair, but necessary process, as it really ''is'' the only way their race is going to stay alive. At least one of the main characters, Alsa, is understandably upset about it, and her unwillingness to be a birthing machine for the rest of her life shows.
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[[folder:Live Action TV]]
* Gabrielle on ''DesperateHousewives''. She's RaisedCatholic, so she can't have an abortion (but can have a ConvenientMiscarriage).
** Recently, [[WordOfGod Word of God]] said about Lynette's recent unplanned pregnancy that [[ExecutiveMeddling the network would never allow him to write an abortion storyline on the show,]] but casually mentioned that you ''can'' have a [[ConvenientMiscarriage miscarriage.]]
* GreysAnatomy. God forbid Callie and Arizona break up over this issue, Arizona has to be converted first. Though otherwise the show is pretty anti-child.
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* One of the reasons Anthony is so despised in the ''ForBetterOrForWorse'' fandom is the [[UnfortunateImplications implied subtext]] that it was he who pressured his wife Therese into having a child that she didn't want by agreeing to be the primary care-giver, then reneging on the agreement just as Therese was going through postpartum depression. We are explicitly meant to see Therese as an unnatural monster for not wanting children in the first place (to the point where she wholesale abandons child, husband and all not much later) and Anthony as the poor put-upon hubby who 'tries to love' his wife despite her refusal to make them a 'real family'.
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[[folder:Tabletop Games]]
* In ''{{Exalted}}'', Terrestrials are strongly encouraged to marry and have babies regardless of sexual orientation, since theirs is the only sort of Exaltation that's hereditary.
** Inverted with the Abyssals, who suffer divine (or at least infernal) punishment if they procreate. The Neverborn created them to ''get rid of'' all those pesky living creatures, damn it, not to go around making new ones!
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[[folder:VideoGames]]
* In ''FireEmblem: Genealogy of the Holy War,'' the fourth game in the series, every last female character recruited in the first half of the game has two kids if she falls in love with someone. One boy and one girl each, no exceptions. And it's a massive GenerationXerox for classes depending on who the fathers are.
* While not strictly mandated, the Quarian race of aliens in ''MassEffect'', forced to live on an enormous fleet of mostly hand-me-down starships after having been exiled from their homeworld by their own robotic creations, will sometimes institute incentives for couples to have children. And sometimes the Quarians discourage this instead, depending on which way the fragile birth rate is leaning.
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[[folder:WebOriginal]]
* Fiona in the [[http://www.metamorcity.com ''Metamor City'']] novel ''Making the Cut'', who gets forced into a breeding cell only because she's female, and it's made clear that anything other than birthing her own babies someday is not going to be acceptable to the [[PsychicPowers Psi]] Collective.
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