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* ''LightNovel/AscendanceOfABookworm'': Myne, the protagonist, is a young woman from modern-day Japan who reincarnated in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy. But first and foremost, she's a {{Bookworm}} in a world where MedievalUniversalLiteracy is very much averted, which results in her top priority being introducing cheap books to her new world over everything else, with random items she took for granted in her previous life a close second. She's also a sickly girl prone to {{Fainting}} at the drop of a hat. This results in just about anyone who gets dragged into helping her make her dream come true needing to get used to being around a young girl who is very strange from an in-universe point of view. As Myne's network of helpers is ever-expanding over the course of the story, it's not rare for more recent additions to have at least one scene in which they have to deal with the combined craziness of Myne and the people who have known her long enough to no longer be fazed by her behavior and tendency to collapse with little-to-no warning before they end up joining said craziness.

* ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'' has this role shift from character to character, with the newest member of the RagtagBunchOfMisfits generally taking the role until they find their niche in the cast. At first, it was Frank "Doc" [=DuFresne=]. Then it shifted to Agent Washington when he arrived, followed by Agent Carolina, then the leaders of the Chorus forces, then Dylan Andrews... the role is in flux but each time results in a different brand of comedy.

* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'': This was the role of Professor Fansworth's clone, Cubert, in his first appearance. Having been [[ReallyWasBornYesterday literally born yesterday]], he was there to point out the show's many scientific inaccuracies and logical inconsistencies. This aspect was abandoned in later appearances, when Cubert came to embrace the show's nonsense.

* ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'': ComicBook/GreenArrow joins the team as a BadassNormal joe without even the benefit of being a CrazyPrepared [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] like Franchise/{{Batman}} (and he also happens to be a hardcore leftist). He is constantly one to question whether or not Cadmus [[StrawmanHasAPoint has a point]] about being afraid of the {{Physical God}}s taking justice into their own hands. In fact, this trope was {{invoked|trope}} by the League itself, who wanted him to be their MoralityChain.

* ''LightNovel/AscendanceOfABookworm'': Myne, the protagonist, is a young woman from modern-day Japan who reincarnated in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy. But first and foremost, she's a {{Bookworm}} in a world where MedievalUniversalLiteracy is very much averted, which results in her top priority being introducing cheap books to her new world over everything else, with random items she took for granted in her previous life a close second. She's also an IllGirl prone to {{Fainting}} at the drop of a hat. This results in just about anyone who gets dragged into helping her make her dream come true needing to get used to being around a young girl who is very strange from an in-universe point of view. As Myne's network of helpers is ever-expanding over the course of the story, it's not rare for more recent additions to have at least one scene in which they have to deal with the combined craziness of Myne and the people who have known her long enough to no longer be fazed by her behavior and tendency to collapse with little-to-no warning before they end up joining said craziness.

* In ''[[Series/Charmed1998 Charmed]]'', neophyte witch Paige occasionally falls into this after joining Piper and Phoebe who, by that point, had three years worth of experience as Charmed Ones and had gotten used to quite a few things. When Piper turns into a Fury, Paige is quite shaken at how blasé Phoebe, Leo and Cole are when recalling some of the Sisteers' past demonic transformations to try and predict Piper's behaviour.

'''Phoebe:''' ''[ignoring her while working on reversing a spell]'' "What word did you sub demon with?"

-->'''Minerva:''' Your world seems so chaotic. Your ruler [[AnthropomorphicFood is a piece of gum]], [[FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire your friend's a vampire]], you dated [[ElementalEmbodiment a bit of]] [[PlayingWithFire fire]] -- your life is constantly in danger!

* ''VideoGame/EpicBattleFantasy'': Anna is new to the entire adventuring thing and isn't used to some of the questionable things the team does at times.

* ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'' has this role shift from character to character, with the newest member of the [[RagtagBunchOfMisfits generally taking the role until they find their niche in the cast]]. At first, it was Frank "Doc" [=DuFresne=]. Then it shifted to Agent Washington when he arrived, followed by Agent Carolina, then the leaders of the Chorus forces, then Dylan Andrews... the role is in flux but each time results in a different brand of comedy.

-->-- ''Webcomic/{{Hiimdaisy}}'', "Let's Destroy Metal Gear Again"

* ''Manga/{{Working}}'': Early on, the series follows Souta, the new part-time waiter, as he discovers one after another the various quirks of his co-workers. Said quirks no other co-worker seems to be bothered by, no other co-worker seems to bother with, no other co-worker bothered to warn him of, and no other co-worker bothered to even mention. The restaurant turns out to be a DysfunctionJunction alright. But Souta himself does make quite a contribution.

* ''Film/HotFuzz:'' London cop Nicholas Angel is assigned to the village of Sandford and is utterly baffled by how the veteran cops there are quick to write off obvious homicides as freak accidents. This is because the murders have been going on for decades, and so most of the local cops have grown up with the impression that Sandford is a place where no one is ever murdered but that accidents happen all the time. As an outsider, Nicholas lacks that impression and sees the murders for what they ar.

* ''Film/HotFuzz:'' London cop Nicholas Angel is assigned to the village of Sandford and is utterly baffled by how the veteran cops there are quick to write off obvious homicides as freak accidents. This is because the murders have been going on for decades, and so most of the local cops have grown up with the impression that Sandford is a place where no one is ever murdered but th

* Averted in ''Fanfic/HellAndHighWater''. Human Twilight would have served this role, but everyone is so unwilling to deal with yet another person entering the situation that Aria ends up quietly taking her off to the side and mindwiping her offscreen.

* ''Webcomic/{{Hiimdaisy}}'': PlayedForLaughs in ''Let's Destroy Metal Gear'' series, in which every protagonist plays the ExtremeDoormat[=/=]StraightMan to the insanity going on. The page quote above is recited to new protagonist, Raiden, by previous protagonist, Solid Snake, while Snake sports a post-traumatic ThousandYardStare. A very positive example of the trope happens later, as the team are preparing for battle, with everyone making good suggestions or enabling the suggestions of others. Minrah is pleased by the team's supportive nature, which Elan states only exists because they tried everything else first.
* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': Minrah Elle Shaleshoe, a dwarf Fighter/Cleric, joins the eponymous Order at the end of Book 6. She is often puzzled by the party's numerous idiosyncrasies, not having had six books to get used to it like the readers.

* ''Webcomic/{{Hiimdaisy}}'': PlayedForLaughs in ''Let's Destroy Metal Gear'' series, in which every protagonist plays the ExtremeDoormat[=/=]StraightMan to the insanity going on. The page quote above is recited to new protagonist, Raiden, by previous protagonist, Solid Snake, while Snake sports a post-traumatic ThousandYardStare.

* In the ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' ministry "Islands", several isolated remnants of human colonies are discovered, one of which is governed by [[spoiler:Finn's biological mother]], Minerva, who is the last of the "Helper" caste that managed to survive a lethal plague by uploading her dying body into a computer network. [[spoiler: She wants Finn to also upload so she can protect him from danger forever, but Finn tries to convince her that the outside world isn't so bad by showing her his memories.]] Her response to Finn's many adventures in Ooo is... mixed.

See also WeHaveBecomeComplacent. Compare IsItAlwaysLikeThis and its response WelcomeToMyWorld. This may lead to the newcomer being a DefectorFromDecadence if they leave the group, or the OnlySaneMan if they stay. Some may [[GivingUpOnLogic become just as crazy]] in the end.

* ''Manga/OnePiece'': Several members and allies of the [[BunnyEarsLawyer Straw Hat Pirates]] have been this at different points of the manga, as they discovered what a gang of lunatics they're dealing with. More humorously, most of them end up [[NotSoAboveItAll being abosrbed into the antics of the crew]] as a sign they grow close to them:

* ''LightNovel/AscendanceOfABookworm'': Myne, the protagonist, is a young woman from modern-day Japan who reincarnated in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy. But first and foremost, she's a {{Bookworm}} in a world where MedievalUniversalLiteracy is very much averted, which results in her top priority being introducing cheap books to her new world over everything else, with random items she took for granted in her previous life a close second. She's also an IllGirl prone to {{Fainting}} at the drop of a hat. This results in just about anyone who gets dragged into helping her make her dream come true needing to get used to being around a young girl who is very strange from an in-unverse point of view. As Myne's network of helpers is ever-expanding over the course of the story, it's not rare for more recent additions to have at least one scene in which they have to deal with the combined craziness of Myne and the people who have known her long enough to no longer be fazed by her behavior and tendency to collapse with little-to-no warning before they end up joining said craziness.

* ''LightNovel/AscendanceOfABookworm'': Myne, the protagonist, is a young woman from modern-day Japan who reincarnated in a MedievalEuropeanFantasy. But first and foremost, she's a {{Bookworm}} in a world where MedievalUniversalLiteracy is very much averted, which results in her top priority being introducing cheap books to her new world over everything else, with random items she took for granted in her previous life a close second. She's also an IllGirl prone to {{Fainting}} at the drop of a hat.

* Averted in ''Fanfic/HellAndHighWater''. Human Twilight would have served this role... if anyone actually had to patience to after having just quelled a raging she-demon. No one is happy with the idea of having to explain the incident to someone who will also need a detailed explanation of everything that came before, especially since they themselves still have some missing holes to fill, so after ''everyone else'' gets themselves on the same page regarding the current situation, Aria quietly takes this Twilight off to the side and mindwipes her offscreen.

** This happens on a galaxy-wide scale in regards to humanity entering [[TheFederation Citadel Space]]. By the time the rest of the galaxy discovers humanity, a multi-species civilization had existed in its current form for millennia and [[PlanetOfHats and Hats had been distributed to everyone]] based on their species' traits relative to others. ([[ProudScholarRace "You're smart]] [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe and beautiful".]] [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy "You're tough]] [[HumorlessAliens and uptight."]] [[DumbMuscle "You're big]] [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect and stupid."]] [[ProudMerchantRace "You're weak]] [[SpaceJews and greedy."]]) This gave humans the advantage of looking at how each other species have fared with specific hats (at one point noting how FantasticRacism has completely screwed over the quarians and krogan). Humans thus react extremely bitterly to being marginalized or compartmentalized in any way. This, however, makes members of other races [[HumanityIsInsane assign "pseudo-hats"]] [[HumansAreBastards to humanity instead.]]

As the SixthRanger or rookie member (including RookieRedRanger), this character has likely been absent from all the mental leaps, decisions, and odd adventures that everyone else has undergone. Because of that, none of them can SpotTheThread or notice that [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom there's something incredibly strange about the whole picture]]. But this character does, and won't hesitate to question why their new companions behave the way they do. Depending on the scenario, the other people may try to address the issue (up to resolving it), or they may just dismiss it and tell the rookie to get used to it.

See also WeHaveBecomeComplacent. Compare IsItAlwaysLikeThis and its response WelcomeToMyWorld. This may lead to the newcomer being a DefectorFromDecadence if they leave the group, or the OnlySaneMan if they stay.

Compare and contrast NaiveNewcomer. The main difference between the two is that while another character will at least attempt to give the newcomer some explanation as to why things are the way they are, the latecomer's questions and concerns will be ignored or downplayed (leading to latecomer's further exasperation). Both are equally likely to serve as an AudienceSurrogate, however, with the latecomer most often taking the role during the later installments of a work to alleviate ContinuityLockout.

* ''Videogame/DevilMayCry5'': Only being introduced one game prior, Nero has no idea who [[spoiler:Vergil]] is and why Dante is so keen on fighting him by himself. He's eventually told that [[spoiler:Vergil is Dante's twin brother and [[LukeIAmYourFather Nero's father]], which only makes Nero more conflicted because he's suddenly gone from having no family to having a father and an uncle that want to kill each other]]. As such, he declares the entire [[spoiler:SiblingRivalry]] between the two a stupid waste of time and unlocks [[SuperMode Devil Trigger]] just to make them back down and settle things once and for all.