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* In the ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' episode "Gem Harvest", Steven meets Greg's cousin, Andy [=DeMayo=], who hasn't seen him in years and doesn't know about the Gems or Steven's adventures with them. Andy is baffled by the Gems' powers, and reacts with fear, concern, and AngerBornOfWorry when [[spoiler:he hastily tries to leave the family dinner in his biplane and Steven ''flies after him with Lapis's help, only to '''nearly fall into the ocean'''''.]] Interestingly (and hilariously), he actually seems to immediately accept the fact that the Gems are extraterrestrial beings... but he's super mad because they're not legally American citizens and his family has been letting them live with them. And yes, an "illegal alien" pun is indeed used in the episode.

Such a character may also become an AudienceSurrogate, especially in later installments, to alleviate ContinuityLockout. Compare and contrast NaiveNewcomer

* In the ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' ministry "Islands", several isolated remnants of human colonies are discovered, one of which is governed by [[spoiler: Finn's biological mother]], Minerva, who is the last of the "Helper" caste that managed to survive a lethal plague by uploading her dying body into a computer network. She wants Finn to also upload so she can protect him from danger forever, but Finn tries to convince her that the outside world isn't so bad by showing her his memories. Her response to his many adventures in Ooo is... mixed.
-->'''Minerva:''' Your world seems so chaotic. Your ruler is a piece of gum, your friend's a vampire, you dated a bit of fire -- your life is constantly in danger!

Such a character may also become an AudienceSurrogate, especially in later installments, to alleviate ContinuityLockout.

->'''Raiden:''' WHY IS THERE A VAMPIRE IN THIS GAME?!
->'''Solid Snake:''' Pipe down kid. ''*goes into ThousandYardStare*'' After a while, you just stop asking these questions.
-->--''[[WebComic/{{Hiimdaisy}} Let's Destroy Metal Gear Again]]''

!!Examples

* ''[[Manga/{{WORKING}} Working!!]]'': Early on, the series follows Souta, the new part-time waiter, as he discovers one after another the various quirks of his co-workers. Said qirks no other co-worker seems to be bothered by, no other co-worker seems to bother with, no other co-worker bothered to warn him of, and no other co-worker bothered to even mention. The restaurant turns out to be a DysfunctionJunction alright. But Souta himself does make quite a contribution.

* Superboy and Supergirl were this for the original ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes; as people from the present day, they understandably didn't know much of anything about life in the 30th century, nor what kind of crazy adventures the Legion got up to. This made them [[AudienceSurrogate Audience Surrogates]] who could ask relevant WorldBuilding questions, allowing the comic to avoid constant AsYouKnow moments.

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* In ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', Captain America (who spent [[RipVanWinkle several decades]] in SuspendedAnimation) is the only person in SHIELD to see something wrong with the organization's plan to launch a fleet of super-accurate, nigh-unstoppable aerial gunships to patrol the world and enforce peace at gunpoint. [[spoiler:It turns out that he's completely right, because HYDRA has been running SHIELD for decades at that point, and once those ships are in the air, they will wipe out the millions of people worldwide who could ever possibly pose a threat, effectively TakingOverTheWorld in one fell swoop.]] Cap spent about 65 years being frozen, reinforcing the trope more since he is missing generations of angst that have led to SHIELD deciding on this course of action.

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* Happens often with the study group in {{Series/Community}}, but a stand-out example is Todd, who briefly has to join the study group to make equal pairs. They squabble so much over who has to pair up with him that they don't get the assignment done at all, and in the end Todd calls the biology professor in tears.
* ''Series/TheLastManOnEarth'': By the time Louis joins the cast in season three, the group has gotten used to Phil/Tandy's peculiar logic. Louis grows exasperated not only at Phil's antics, but also by the others' blasé attitude towards them.

* ''Franchise/MassEffect''.

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* ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'': Trunks, despite growing up in a [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic]] BadFuture, is a relatively normal and well-adjusted young man. This leaves him ''very'' unprepared for the insanity of the Z-Warriors when he goes back in time. Especially where [[{{Jerkass}} his father]] is concerned.
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' episode "Gem Harvest", Steven meets Greg's cousin, Andy [=DeMayo=], who hasn't seen him in years and doesn't know about the Gems or Steven's adventures with them. Andy is baffled by the Gems' powers, and reacts with fear, concern, and AngerBornOfWorry when [[spoiler:he hastily tries to leave the family dinner in his biplane and Steven ''flies after him with Lapis's help, only to '''nearly fall into the ocean'''''.]]
** Interestingly (and hilariously), he actually seems to immediately accept the fact that the Gems are extraterrestrial beings...but he's super mad because they're not legally American citizens and his family has been letting them live with them. And yes, an "illegal alien" pun is indeed used in the episode.

-->'''Minerva:''' Your world seems so chaotic. Your ruler is a piece of gum, your friend's a vampire, you dated a bit of fire—Your life is constantly in danger!
* ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw'' actually begins with one--while everyone else who [[ThePollyanna Milo]] knows has long ago accepted that he's BornUnlucky and TheJinx, the first episode has him meet [[OnlySaneMan Zack]], who just moved to town and thus serves as the show's AudienceSurrogate. A later episode also gives this role to Zack's father, the only person who doesn't initially believe in the Murphy men's HereditaryCurse.
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' ministry "Islands", several isolated remnants of human colonies are discovered, one of which is governed by [[spoiler: Finn's biological mother]], Minerva, who is the last of the "Helper" caste that managed to survive a lethal plague by uploading her body into a computer network. She wants Finn to also upload so she can protect him from danger forever, but Finn tries to convince her that the outside world isn't so bad by showing her his memories. Her response to his many adventures in Ooo is... mixed.

* In the ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' ministry "Islands", several isolated remnants of human colonies are discovered, one of which is governed by [[spoiler: Finn's biological mother]], Minerva, who is the last of the "Helper" caste that managed to survive a lethal plague by uploading her body into a computer network. She wants Finn to also upload so she can protect him from danger forever, but Finn tries to convince her that the outside world isn't so bad by showing her his memories. Her response is... mixed.

* According to WordOfGod, this was the reason that the ComicBook/ScarletSpider's debut battle was against ComicBook/{{Venom}}. Venom was one of Franchise/{{Spider-man}}'s most dangerous and insane foes, but during this period of time, Spider-man had entered a non-aggression pact with him, where the two would basically leave each other alone. Peter at this time was married and Venom was well aware of his true identity, so Peter was partly motivated by a desire to protect his family. Despite this, some writers felt that this was ''horribly out of character'' for Peter Parker, and [[WriterOnBoard expressed their feelings through Scarlet Spider]], who is [[WhatTheHellHero very pissed off]] that Peter made this deal.

* According to WordOfGod, this was the reason that the ComicBook/ScarletSpider's debut battle was against ComicBook/{{Venom}}. Venom was one of Franchise/{{Spider-man}}'s most dangerous and insane foes, but during this period of time, Spider-man had entered a non-aggression pact with him, where the two would basically leave each other alone, since Peter at this time he was married and Venom was well aware of his true identity, so Peter was partly motivated by a desire to protect his family. Despite this, some writers felt that this was ''horribly out of character'' for Peter Parker, and [[WriterOnBoard expressed their feelings through Scarlet Spider]], who is [[WhatTheHellHero very pissed off]] that Peter made this deal.

* According to WordOfGod, this was the reason that the ComicBook/ScarletSpider's debut battle was against ComicBook/{{Venom}}. Venom was one of Franchise/{{Spider-man}}'s most dangerous and insane foes, but during this period of time, Spider-man had entered a non-aggression pact with him, where the two would basically leave each other alone. To be fair to Peter, at this time he was married and Venom was well aware of his true identity, so Peter was partly motivated by a desire to protect his family. Despite this, some writers felt that this was ''horribly out of character'' for Peter Parker, and [[WriterOnBoard expressed their feelings through Scarlet Spider]], who is [[WhatTheHellHero very pissed off]] that Peter made this deal.

* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': PlayedForDrama (or seriously dark comedy) on the episode "Homer's Enemy", where new employee Frank Grimes becomes the titular enemy out of hating the fact that nobody on Springfield seems to give a damn about Homer Simpson's LethallyStupid IdiotHoudini tendencies... and this hatred ends up leading to his accidental death.

* ''Series/TheLastManOnEarth'': By the time Louis joins the cast in season three, the group has gotten used to Phil/Tandy's peculiar logic. Louis grows exasperated not only at Phil's antics, but also by the other's blasé attitude towards them.

* In the ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' episode "Gem Harvest", Steven meets Greg's cousin Andy [=DeMayo=], who hasn't seen him in years and doesn't know about the Gems or Steven's adventures with them. He's baffled by the Gems' powers, and reacts with fear, concern, and AngerBornOfWorry when [[spoiler: Andy hastily tries to leave the family dinner in his biplane and Steven ''flies after him with Lapis Lazuli's help'' only to ''nearly fall into the ocean''.]]

See also WeHaveBecomeComplacent and IsItAlwaysLikeThis. This may lead to the newcomer being a DefectorFromDecadence if they leave the group, or the OnlySaneMan if they stay.

See also WeHaveBecomeComplacent. This may lead to the newcomer being a DefectorFromDecadence if they leave the group, or the OnlySaneMan if they stay.

* ''WebOriginal/DragonBallZAbridged'': Trunks, despite growing up in a [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic]] BadFuture, is a relatively normal and well-adjusted young man. This leaves him ''very'' unprepared for the insanity of the Z-Warriors when he goes back in time. Especially where [[{{Jerkass}} his father]] is concerned.

* ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'': ComicBook/GreenArrow joins the team as a BadassNormal joe without even the benefit of being a CrazyPrepared [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] like {{Batman}} (and he also happens to be a hardcore leftist). He is constantly one to question whether or not Cadmus [[StrawmanHasAPoint has a point]] about being afraid of the {{Physical God}}s taking justice into their own hands. In fact, this trope was {{invoked|trope}} by the League itself, who wanted him to be their MoralityChain.

* According to WordOfGod, this was the reason that the ComicBook/ScarletSpider's debut battle was against ComicBook/{{Venom}}. Venom was one of Franchise/{{Spider-man}}'s most dangerous and insane foes, but during this period of time, Spider-man had entered a non-aggression pact with him, where the two would basically leave each other alone. To be fair to Peter, at this time he was married and Venom was well aware of his true identity, so Peter was partly motivated by a desire to protect his family. Despite this, some writers felt that this was ''horribly out of character'' for Peter Parker, and expressed their feelings through Scarlet Spider, who is [[WhatTheHellHero very pissed off]] that Peter made this deal.