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** Equipment that boosts stats also boosts stat GROWTH, meaning that you have to wear it starting at level 1 to get the maximum benefit out of it. Some of the best stat-boosting equipment is only available on disc four, and to get that far still at level 1 you need to run from every battle, find special "friendly monsters" to gain ability points, and use obscure strategies for many bosses. And to make matters worse, you have to get [[GuestStarPartyMember Marcus]] during the short period he is in your party to level 99, because Eiko later inherits his stat bonuses, but not his level (contrary to Amarant, who inherits Blank's level). Of course this also means you can't get perfect stats and Excalibur II in the same game.
** Steiner's Excalibur II can only be found in the last dungeon of the game (the game is four disks long) and you have to get there before the twelve-hour mark to get it (else you have to keep the game on for TWO YEARS to [[{{Cap}} overflow the game clock]]). There's a guide online that perfected this challenge, showing that it's possible to get the Excalibur II '''and''' all missable items and remain at level 1 for stat gains. It'll take you hours to read it.

** Similar to Final Fantasy IV, collecting all the bestiary entries and opening the treasure chests for the[[ThatOneAchievement "Filling Up The Grotesquerie" and "I, My, Me, Mine" achievements]]. The majority of dungeons contain encounters so rare that you may never know they exist, and towns and dungeons are filled with secret passageways, making chests easily missable. Moreover, certain dungeons can only be entered once, making [[PermanentlyMissableContent one mistake]] game-ending for completionists. And if that wasn't enough, the only way to review your bestiary and treasure hunting progress until the end of the game is by talking to an NPC located in an optional town in the [[GuideDangIt secret passageway of an inn.]]

* When going for a 10-star ranking in the ''Franchise/SilentHill'' games, you will find that it's not a pure test of skill, but rather a checklist of many cryptic benchmarks that would take ages to figure out in the absence of a walkthrough. And you won't know if you've failed to meet one of those benchmarks until after finishing the game.

** ''VideoGame/Dishonored2'' also has a similar one. The good news is you just need to find 60% of the gold. The bad news is you have to do this for ''every level''.

** The "Everybody Dance Now" Skill Point from ''Tools of Destruction'' is this UpToEleven. It involves getting tossing a Groovitron at every Enemy and NPC in the game to make them dance. Yes, ''[[GottaCatchEmAll all]]'' of them. The problem is, some enemies only appear in very specific places, and several are {{Permanently Missable|Content}} until [[NewGamePlus Challenge Mode]], making them Last Lousy Points within a Last Lousy Point. Of particular note are your NPC allies [[ThoseTwoGuys Cronk, Zephyr]] and [[ActionGirl Talwyn]] (only available during exactly three [[TheWarSequence War Sequences]]), the [[UndergroundMonkey MANY variants of Pirates]], the [[EliteMook Obsidian Enforcers]] on Planet Reepor (of which there are only two, and who count as separate enemies from normal Enforcers), morphed Penguins (which also have many variations), and Rusty Pete (who only appears in person during and after the battle with Captain Slag).

*** Each stage has one hundred bananas, five golden bananas, and a blueprint for each of the five playable characters. The HubLevel itself has five golden bananas for each character, as well as an extra one earned after you've caught all Banana Fairies in the gane. If searching for everything isn't hard enough, some of the bonus rounds you have to go through will [[NintendoHard make you wanna bite something]].

* In ''VideoGame/RiskOfRain2'', unlocking an item entry on the Codex simply requires you to acquire it once. All of them can be acquired by playing the game enough times in anyway, except for two items. The Defensive Microbots is a GuideDangIt that requires a specific setup using Artifacts to get. The Irradiant Pearl is the most time-consuming: you need to buy as many Lunar items as possible using rare Lunar Coin currency, find a Cleansing Pool in a stage, which only spawns in 5 of 10 regular biomes with no guaranteed way to spawn them, and trade one Lunar item and hope on a 4% chance it gives you an Irradiant Pearl instead of a regular Pearl.

** ''VideoGame/CrashBandicoot4ItsAboutTime'' manages to top ''Warped'' not just in terms of how many boxes there are but also with how many collectables there are, with six Gems per level across 38 levels, each filled with hundreds of boxes, with an [[LevelInReverse N. Verted Mode]] totaling to ''456 Gems'', coupled with an N. Sanely Perfect Relic for each level that requires you to fulfill all Gem requirements [[note]] At least 80% of the Wumpa Fruit in a level, smashing all the boxes, completing the level in three deaths or less, and finding the hidden Gem[[/note]] '''''on a single run.''''' And that's not even getting into the Colored Gems, Flashback Tapes, and Platinum Time Trial Relics. Suffice to say, combing through each level for all of its collectables will leave you [[JustForPun N. Sane]].

** The "Everybody Dance Now" Skill Point from ''Tools of Destruction'' is this UpToEleven. It involves getting tossing a Groovitron at every Enemy and NPC in the game to make them dance. Yes, ''[[GottaCatchEmAll all]]'' of them. The problem is, some enemies only appear in very specific places, and several are {{Permanently Missable|Content}}, making them Last Lousy Points within a Last Lousy Point. Of particular note are your NPC allies [[ThoseTwoGuys Cronk, Zephyr]] and [[ActionGirl Talwyn]] (only available during exactly three [[TheWarSequence War Sequences]]), the [[UndergroundMonkey MANY variants of Pirates]], the [[EliteMook Obsidian Enforcers]] on Planet Reepor (of which there are only two, and who count as separate enemies from normal Enforcers), morphed Penguins (which also have many variations), and Rusty Pete (who you need to throw a Groovitron at during [[spoiler:the battle with Captain Slag]], lest you [[PermanentlyMissableContent miss him]] until [[NewGamePlus Challenge Mode]]).

** ''[[VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus Legends: Arceus]]'' also has plenty that will leave you pulling your hair out. From the Unown to the Spiritomb wisps to certain Pokémon that evolve through some utterly convoluted means, there will be a few instances when you'll want to look up a guide. Justified; you are completing the very first Pokédex of the Sinnoh region, so of course you're going to do a lot of stuff ForScience.

* HundredPercentCompletion in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series commonly involves recording all demons (or Personas) in the game in your Compendium. There's always a few stray demons which are inaccessible without fulfilling several requirements, and then there are some that are only available through [[LuckBasedMission fusion accidents]].

** ''VideoGame/CrashBandicoot3Warped'' has it worse with two levels that are accessed from within other levels - one of which is ''itself'' a hidden level. Fortunately, neither of these levels are necessary for HundredPercentCompletion, but only for ''10'''5'''% Completion'' which requires adecquate timing in ALL levels to achieve.

* ''VideoGame/DanceDanceRevolution Extreme US'' had the Last Lousy Song "Memories", which was only accessible via a code released two years after the game's release. ''DDRMAX US'' has "Drop The Bomb (System SF Mix)", which has to be unlocked either by playing 500 songs or completing the [[MarathonLevel long and hard]] Hardcore Oni Course.

'''Mario:''' Okay, here we go! Oh, there's one over here... Hmm, one over here.. Oh, and there's one right here, wahoo! At this rate I'll find all those Moons in no time!\\

** In the ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon'' series, you have Kecleon. In ''Red/Blue Rescue Team'' you need to be level 90 or higher and have the Friend Bow, while in ''Explorers'' you have to be Level 99 or 10, have the rare Golden Mask ''and'' use a Pokémon that can learn the Fast Friend IQ skill. With that done, you need to find a Kecleon Shop and steal from it to have Kecleon [[EasilyAngeredShopkeeper call some friends to attack you]]. All of this adds up to a one in thousand chance against a very powerful opponent (and in ''Red/Blue Rescue Team'', you have to actually make it to the end of a dungeon with the recruit still alive). Escape Orbs won't work until you actually go to next floor, by the way.

** The Diskun Trophy in ''Melee'' is not worth the effort, and wouldn't be, even if the game paid you by the hour to complete it. Ignore that trophy, you'll thank TV Tropes. It requires you to get [[https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee/Bonuses every single point bonus in the game]]. It's worse than you'd think, since many will never occur in a normal match and are difficult to get even when it's all you're trying to do. It's obscene.
** Young Link's Target Challenge is notably more difficult than the other ones; most of the targets are spread out very far and behind obstacles. But that's not the worst part: there's a massive GuideDangIt at the beginning when you have to WallJump out of a pit. Nothing in the game even mentions wall jumping, it's a rather difficult maneuver to pull off, ''and'' this is the only challenge of any kind in ''Melee'' where wall jumping is even useful, let alone required.
** The [[MarathonLevel Subspace Bomb Factory (lower)]] in the adventure mode of ''Brawl''. There are two specific treasures which are difficult to get. One requires using a character who can wall jump in an inconspicuous hallway next to a switch which clearly shows that you're supposed to turn around. The other involves going through a moving door in a dangerous scrolling section, bouncing on a trampoline off the top of the screen (which would normally kill you), using your double jump to get even higher, then attacking to break open the box. Both boxes randomly generate a trophy, which you probably already have, so they don't really do anything other than letting you have a 100% completion score.
** There's also the trophies that you have to beat every mode in the game (except Subspace Emissary) on the highest difficulty setting to get (which you can't just use a Golden Hammer to forcibly gain), as well as the Meta Ridley trophy, which requires you to get close to beating Meta Ridley in Subspace Emissary, then wait for a trophy stand to spawn (keep in mind the fight is on a timer,) then throw the trophy stand at him, and then jump off the Falcon Flyer that you've been riding the whole fight that's your only platform and ''grab the Meta Ridley trophy out of the air'' before it disappears off the bottom of the screen. Not to mention the Stickers trophy, which you only get after obtaining at least one of every sticker in the game, of which there are over six hundred and are all allocated by RNG.
** One of the challenges in ''Smash 4'' is to get 300,000G. It's quite easy to get G by playing Classic, All-Star, or Smash Tour modes, as well as completing certain Event Matches and getting some of the other challenges... but by the time you find out about the challenge, you've probably spent most of the money you can earn on trophies, and to get the achievement, it's not enough to simply have earned 300,000G over the course of the game, you need to have that much available to spend at once.

** The "Everybody Dance Now" Skill Point from Tools of Destruction is this UpToEleven. It involves getting tossing a Groovitron at every Enemy and NPC in the game to make them dance. Yes, [[GottaCatchEmAll ALL of them.]] The problem is, some enemies only appear in very specific places, and several are {{Permanently Missable|Content}}, making them Last Lousy Points within a LastLousyPoint. Of particular note are your NPC allies [[ThoseTwoGuys Cronk, Zephyr]] and [[ActionGirl Talwyn]], only available during [[spoiler: exactly three [[TheWarSequence War Sequences]]]], the [[UndergroundMonkey MANY variants of Pirates]], the [[EliteMook Obsidian Enforcers]] on Planet Reepor (of which there are only 2) counting as separate enemies from normal Enforcers, remembering morphed Penguins also count and, by far the worst, [[spoiler:Rusty Pete]], who you need to throw a Groovitron at immediately after [[spoiler:defeating Captain Slag]] and [[PermanentlyMissableContent ONLY then!]]
** "Vandal" in ''Into the Nexus''. You have to break all of the windows on Planet Silox, which is hard because certain areas get blocked off after you complete the planet, and the windows you need to break are only different from the unbreakable ones due to being brighter blue, requiring you to always be looking everywhere in case one of these windows is not like the others.

*** Each main game in the ''VideoGame/MetroidPrimeTrilogy'' has at least one obscure enemy that seems to exist for the sole purpose of [[PermanentlyMissableContent preventing the player from getting 100% of the]] [[EnemyScan Logbook scans]], and in the first game this spot belongs to the Ice Shriekbat. Like all Shriekbats, these are difficult to spot, and divebomb Samus and explode as soon as soon as she gets near them. Unlike all other Shriekbats, they never respawn ([[http://www.metroid2002.com/version_differences_ice_shriekbats.php but only in the NTSC, or USA, version]]; [[RegionalBonus other regions are luckier]]). They also only appear in one room and are [[GuideDangIt gone so quickly that you probably won't even know they were a unique creature.]] As some sort of cruel joke, their Logbook description suggests using the Thermal Visor to spot them, an item which you won't get for at least another hour after you encounter them. In the Wii's ''Trilogy'' compilation, the Ice Shriekbats at least have the courtesy to respawn.

*** There's a specific type of Space Pirate (of which there are many almost indistinguishable variants) which only appears during a particularly difficult timed mission in which you fight a large number of Space Pirates while also having to deal with annoying ships that shoot at you from the distance. Thus, if you want to scan it, you'll likely have to let them attack the vessel where you are.
*** Of the 26 Friend Vouchers that can be collected, one requires doing a NoDamageRun through the Morph Ball segment on Norion where Meta Ridley is attacking you. Even just CollisionDamage from him will ruin this achievement, and it's back to your last save to try again.

** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds'' has the Cucco Ranch minigame, where the player must dodge swarms of angry Cuccos who are attacking Link in a small, enclosed space. You lose instantly if any of the Cuccos touch you. To get the Piece of Heart you need to last for 30 seconds on the hardest difficulty, which is a decent challenge but nothing too ridiculous. However, completing this also unlocks Endless Mode, and some sadistic developer decided to put ''another'' reward for lasting 999 seconds (~17 minutes) on Endless. It's mostly a BraggingRightsReward, not needed to max out Link's stats (all you get is a giant Cucco that sits on the world map and gives you hearts when you talk to it), however, it all but ensures only the most insanely dedicated players will be able to truly [[HundredPercentCompletion 100% the game]].

* In the original NES ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}}'', one Missile Tank in Ridley's Hideout requires either an insanely precise jump or a double bomb jump to reach. If you fail, you fall down an insanely long shaft and either have to go all the way back around the Hideout to try again.
* ''VideoGame/MetroidPrimeTrilogy'':
** It seems to be a tradition in the series to have at least one obscure enemy that seems to exist for the sole purpose of preventing the player from getting 100% of the [[EnemyScan Logbook scans]]. The Ice Shriekbat from [[VideoGame/MetroidPrime the first game]] is an infamous example. Like all Shriekbats, these are difficult to spot and dive bomb Samus and explode as soon as soon as Samus gets near them. Unlike all other Shriekbats, they never respawn (except in the [[RegionalBonus PAL version]], supposedly). They also only appear in one room and are [[GuideDangIt gone so quickly that you probably won't even know they were a unique creature.]] As some sort of cruel joke, their Logbook description suggests using the Thermal Visor to spot them, an item which you don't even have at that point in the game. In the rereleased version in the ''Metroid Prime Trilogy'' compilation on the Wii, the Ice Shriekbats respawn. Both a nice surprise to people who missed them the first time around and a nasty shock to the people who never expected to see them again.
** ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime 1'' also has a Last Lousy Missile Expansion in the Chozo Ruins, hidden in a Morph Ball tunnel off the Training Chamber Access Hall, whose entrance is nearly impossible to spot due to being obscured by shrubbery.
** ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime2Echoes'' has the Ing Webtrap, a specific type of door that only appears ''once'' during a battle in Dark Agon Wastes and never shows up again for the rest of the game. Your only shot is to scan it before dealing with the enemy Ing that appear.
** ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime3Corruption'' has two examples:
*** There's a specific type of Space Pirate (of which there are many almost indistinguishable variants) which only appears during a particularly difficult timed mission in which you fight a large number of Space Pirates while also having to deal with annoying ships that shoot at you from the distance. Thus, if you want to scan it, you'll likely have to let them attack the vessel where you are.
*** Of the 26 vouchers that can be collected, one requires a NoDamageRun through a Morph Ball segment in which Ridley is attacking you. Even a mere damage by contact with him will ruin this achievement.

* In ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}}'', one Missile Tank in Ridley's Hideout requires either an insanely precise jump or a double bomb jump to reach. If you fail, you have to go all the way back around the Hideout to try again.