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* Similar to the above, on {{Frasier}}, Martin has this relationship with both his sons in a slightly different context. Martin was a man's man cop for decades and has two opera-loving, psychiatrist sons with whom he has little in common.
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** One episode made reference to Red having been on the wrestling team when he was in high school, so there's that.

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->''"That boy ain't right."''

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* Hank and Bobby in ''KingOfTheHill''. Hank was a high school athlete; Bobby is pudgy, lazy and more interested in becoming a comedian, not to mention more sensative than Hank ever feels comfortable with.

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* Hank and Bobby in ''KingOfTheHill''. Hank was a high school athlete; Bobby is pudgy, lazy and more interested in becoming a comedian, not to mention more sensative than Hank ever feels comfortable with.



* {{Parodied}} and {{Inverted}} on ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'''s take on ''HighSchoolMusical:'' Brian Gueermo wants to be on the basketball team, but his abusive CampStraight father pushes him into dancing.
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* {{Parodied}} and {{Inverted}} on ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'''s take on ''HighSchoolMusical:'' Brian Gueermo wants to be on the basketball team, but his abusive CampStraight father pushes him into dancing.
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* Also inverted in ''{{Comicbook/Runaways}}''. Chase is initially presented as a jock, and his parents are both super-geniuses. His father is [[AbusiveParents less than impressed]] with his son't athletic abilities.

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* Also inverted in ''{{Comicbook/Runaways}}''. Chase is initially presented as a jock, and his parents are both super-geniuses. His father is [[AbusiveParents less than impressed]] with his son't son's athletic abilities.
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->''"That boy ain't right."''
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* {{Parodied}} and {{Inverted}} on ''SouthPark'''s take on ''HighSchoolMusical:'' Brian Gueermo wants to be on the basketball team, but his abusive CampStraight father pushes him into dancing.

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* {{Parodied}} and {{Inverted}} on ''SouthPark'''s ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'''s take on ''HighSchoolMusical:'' Brian Gueermo wants to be on the basketball team, but his abusive CampStraight father pushes him into dancing.
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* Also inverted in ''{{Comicbook/Runaways}}''. Chase is initially presented as a jock, and his parents are both super-geniuses. His father is [[AbusiveParents less that impressed]] with his son't athletic abilities.

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* Also inverted in ''{{Comicbook/Runaways}}''. Chase is initially presented as a jock, and his parents are both super-geniuses. His father is [[AbusiveParents less that than impressed]] with his son't athletic abilities.

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* Hank and Bobby in ''KingOfTheHill''. But Bobby is more of a Lazy Son.

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* Hank and Bobby in ''KingOfTheHill''. But Hank was a high school athlete; Bobby is pudgy, lazy and more of interested in becoming a Lazy Son.comedian, not to mention more sensative than Hank ever feels comfortable with.


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* {{Parodied}} and {{Inverted}} on ''SouthPark'''s take on ''HighSchoolMusical:'' Brian Gueermo wants to be on the basketball team, but his abusive CampStraight father pushes him into dancing.
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* Also inverted in ''{{Comicbook/Runaways}}''. Chase is initially presented as a jock, and his parents are both super-geniuses. His father is [[AbusiveParents less that impressed]] with his son't athletic abilities.
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* Ben Hare and his son Harecules, from BeanyAndCecil.
* Nickelodeon's Aaaah! Real Monsters had Slickis, 'this Academy's most esteemed graduate', a world-renowned top athlete and professional scarer. His son Ickis was often mistaken for a cute bunny rabbit on scares, and once even got his foot run over when he tried to frighten two teenagers who wanted to make-out at an isolated location.

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* Ben Hare and his son Harecules, from BeanyAndCecil.
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* Nickelodeon's Aaaah! Real Monsters ''AaahhRealMonsters'' had Slickis, 'this Academy's most esteemed graduate', a world-renowned top athlete and professional scarer. His son Ickis was often mistaken for a cute bunny rabbit on scares, and once even got his foot run over when he tried to frighten two teenagers who wanted to make-out at an isolated location.
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Tends to be a High School trope. when a father was a jock in high school (usually marks his GloryDays) while his son pursues less athletic endeavors, usually to the father's disappointment. Related to a BillyElliotPlot, but is part of the underlying characterization as opposed to a single episode plot.

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Tends to be a High School trope. when When a father was a jock in high school (usually marks his GloryDays) while his son pursues less athletic endeavors, usually to the father's disappointment. Related to a BillyElliotPlot, but is part of the underlying characterization as opposed to a single episode plot.
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* Nickelodeon's Aaaah! Real Monsters had Slickis, 'this Academy's most esteemed graduate', a world-renowned top athlete and professional scarer. His son Ickis was often mistaken for a cute bunny rabbit on scares, and once even got his foot run over when he tried to frighten two teenagers who wanted to make-out at an isolated location.
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* Ben Hare and his son Harecules, from BeanyAndCecil.
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*Inverted in one 80s ''SpiderMan'' story, where a {{Flashback}} showed us that Flash Thompson's dad was a brilliant academic, who was totally unimpressed by his son's prowess on the football field. Flash bullied Peter because he saw him as the sort of son his father wanted. (This story has been contradicted by every other appearance of Flash Thompson's dad.)
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* ''That70sShow'' has shades of this, with Red being a War Veteran instead of a former High School Jock. He still has this type of relationship with his son Eric.
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* Hank and Bobby in ''KingOfTheHill''. But Bobby is more of a Lazy Son.
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Tends to be a High School trope. when a father was a jock in high school (usually marks his glory days) while his son pursues less athletic endeavors, usually to the father's disappointment. Related to a BillyElliotPlot, but is part of the underlying characterization as opposed to a single episode plot.

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Tends to be a High School trope. when a father was a jock in high school (usually marks his glory days) GloryDays) while his son pursues less athletic endeavors, usually to the father's disappointment. Related to a BillyElliotPlot, but is part of the underlying characterization as opposed to a single episode plot.
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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting Steve repeat the same poor experience Stan had in high school]]

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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting Steve repeat the same poor experience Stan had in high school]] school]]



* On one episode of ''DextersLaboratory'', Dexter's dad tries to teach him how to do sports, but is always thwarted by Dee Dee.

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* On one episode of ''DextersLaboratory'', ''WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory'', Dexter's dad tries to teach him how to do sports, but is always thwarted by Dee Dee.
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* One episode of ''TheSimpsons'' shows us Prof. Frink's dad, who, although also an academic, is more of the AdventurerArcheologist sort.

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* One episode of ''TheSimpsons'' shows us Prof. Frink's dad, who, although also an academic, is more of the AdventurerArcheologist sort.
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* Sheldon on ''TheBigBangTheory'' often talked about how his father forced him to learn football.
* In ''GroundedForLife'', Henry wants to sign up for tap dancing, but his dad pushes him to do a more "masculine" sport like soccer.

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* Sheldon on ''TheBigBangTheory'' ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' often talked about how his father forced him to learn football.
* In ''GroundedForLife'', ''Series/GroundedForLife'', Henry wants to sign up for tap dancing, but his dad pushes him to do a more "masculine" sport like soccer.



* Inverted with Roy Greenhilt and his father, Eugene, of "TheOrderOfTheStick". Roy chose a career as a fighter class as opposed to a wizard like his father, which are seen as a jock and nerd class at least in universe. Played straight with Eugene and his father, Horace, who had inspired Roy's career path. Interestingly, Roy was apparently a nerd compared to ''other'' fighters.

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* Inverted with Roy Greenhilt and his father, Eugene, of "TheOrderOfTheStick".''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. Roy chose a career as a fighter class as opposed to a wizard like his father, which are seen as a jock and nerd class at least in universe. Played straight with Eugene and his father, Horace, who had inspired Roy's career path. Interestingly, Roy was apparently a nerd compared to ''other'' fighters.



* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of ''AmericanDad''. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting Steve repeat the same poor experience Stan had in high school]]

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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of ''AmericanDad''.''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad''. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting Steve repeat the same poor experience Stan had in high school]]
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* On one episode of ''DextersLaboratory'', Dexter's dad tries to teach him how to do sports, but is always twarted by Dee Dee.

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* On one episode of ''DextersLaboratory'', Dexter's dad tries to teach him how to do sports, but is always twarted thwarted by Dee Dee.

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* Inverted with Roy Greenhilt and his father, Eugene, of "TheOrderOfTheStick". Roy chose a career as a fighter class as opposed to a wizard like his father, which are seen as a jock and nerd class at least in universe. Played straight with Eugene and his father, Horace, who had inspired Roy's career path.

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* Inverted with Roy Greenhilt and his father, Eugene, of "TheOrderOfTheStick". Roy chose a career as a fighter class as opposed to a wizard like his father, which are seen as a jock and nerd class at least in universe. Played straight with Eugene and his father, Horace, who had inspired Roy's career path. Interestingly, Roy was apparently a nerd compared to ''other'' fighters.

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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of AmericanDad. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting Steve repeat the same poor experience Stan had in high school]]

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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of AmericanDad.''AmericanDad''. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting Steve repeat the same poor experience Stan had in high school]]



-->'''Hiccup:''' ''[sarcastically imitating Stoick]'' Excuse me, barmaid! I'm afraid you brought me the wrong offspring! I ordered and extra-large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side! This here, this is a talking fishbone!

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-->'''Hiccup:''' ''[sarcastically imitating Stoick]'' Excuse me, barmaid! I'm afraid you brought me the wrong offspring! I ordered and an extra-large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side! This here, this is a talking fishbone!fishbone!
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-->'''Hiccup:''' ''[sarcastically imitating Stoick]'' Excuse me, barmaid! I'm afrad you brought me the wrong offspring! I ordered and extra-large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side! This here, this is a talking fishbone!

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-->'''Hiccup:''' ''[sarcastically imitating Stoick]'' Excuse me, barmaid! I'm afrad afraid you brought me the wrong offspring! I ordered and extra-large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side! This here, this is a talking fishbone!
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Tends to be a High School trope. when a father was a jock in high school (usually marks his glory days) while his son pursues less athletic endeavors, usually to the father's disappointment. Related to a BillyEliotPlot.

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Tends to be a High School trope. when a father was a jock in high school (usually marks his glory days) while his son pursues less athletic endeavors, usually to the father's disappointment. Related to a BillyEliotPlot.
BillyElliotPlot, but is part of the underlying characterization as opposed to a single episode plot.
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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of AmericanDad. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting him repeat the same poor experience Stan had in high school]]

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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of AmericanDad. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting him Steve repeat the same poor experience Stan had in high school]]
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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of AmericanDad. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting him repeat the same poor experience Stan did in high school]]
* This is the case between Chicken Little and his father in the film of the same name.

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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of AmericanDad. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting him repeat the same poor experience Stan did had in high school]]
* This is the case between Chicken Little and his father in [[Disney/ChickenLittle the film of the same name.name]].
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Tends to be a High School trope. when a father was a jock in high school (usually marks his glory days) while his son pursues less athletic endeavors, usually to the father's disappointment. Related to a BillyEliotPlot.

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* Sheldon on ''TheBigBangTheory'' often talked about how his father forced him to learn football.
* In ''GroundedForLife'', Henry wants to sign up for tap dancing, but his dad pushes him to do a more "masculine" sport like soccer.
* Brian from ''StillStanding'' tends to be a nerd, and his dad doesn't approve.

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* Inverted with Roy Greenhilt and his father, Eugene, of "TheOrderOfTheStick". Roy chose a career as a fighter class as opposed to a wizard like his father, which are seen as a jock and nerd class at least in universe. Played straight with Eugene and his father, Horace, who had inspired Roy's career path.
-->'''Roy:''' Well I hate to break it to you dad, but this isn't the end of the line. More like half-time.
-->'''Eugene:''' What? How can you halve time itself?
-->'''Roy:''' *Sigh* I should have known a sports metaphor would be wasted on you.

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* A constant source of contention between Steve and Stan Smith of AmericanDad. Stan constantly tries to help his son with various "masculine" activities to avoid [[spoiler:letting him repeat the same poor experience Stan did in high school]]
* This is the case between Chicken Little and his father in the film of the same name.
* On one episode of ''DextersLaboratory'', Dexter's dad tries to teach him how to do sports, but is always twarted by Dee Dee.
* Hiccup from ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' would be this to his father Stoick the Vast. Scrawny little nerd-boy in a society of huge, fierce, dragon-fighting Vikings.
-->'''Hiccup:''' ''[sarcastically imitating Stoick]'' Excuse me, barmaid! I'm afrad you brought me the wrong offspring! I ordered and extra-large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side! This here, this is a talking fishbone!

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