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** In comparison, Akane Tendo is much more a frequent victim of RonTheDeathEater, and it is [[BrokenBase arguable]] whether she [[BaseBreaker is or is not]] legitimately a JerkSue. Her supporters generally point out that she is much more a {{Tsundere}} then an actual JerkAss, being a legitimately heroic, self-sacrificing, helpful, hard-working, idealistic, and kind-hearted person, to the point of risking her life for enemies who have tried to kill her, and treating most people with courtesy and compassion; and that her usual levels of slapping or berating are pretty much always in response to when Ranma either insults her most insecure spots, or ends up in severely incriminating NotWhatItLooksLike scenarios. Both they and people who don't like her, but don't hate her also sometimes feel that she is clearly "punished" by the series, due to all the [[WeirdnessMagnet weird crap that happens to her]] (including being initially harassed at her school, [[DistressedDamsel getting kidnapped by various lunatics]], [[BelligerentSexualTension constantly bickering with her]] [[ArrangedMarriage unwanted]] fiancee, [[LoveDodecahedron multiple romantic rivals]] [[HeroicSelfDeprecation who make her feel inferior]], and [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption her manic efforts seldom pay off]]). The one trait of a JerkSue she inarguably does have is that characters around her seldom reprimand her when she does do something wrong, and Ranma is often singled out when the blame is shared for deeds in which she is involved. Akane herself usually apologizes to Ranma when she realizes she's been unfair or considers her deeds wrong in hindsight, and is inevitably embarrassed when she feels she went over the line (such as during the Super Soba story).

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** In comparison, Akane Tendo is much more a frequent victim of RonTheDeathEater, and it is [[BrokenBase arguable]] whether she [[BaseBreaker is or is not]] legitimately a JerkSue. Her supporters generally point out that she is much more a {{Tsundere}} then an actual JerkAss, being a legitimately heroic, self-sacrificing, helpful, hard-working, idealistic, and kind-hearted person, to the point of risking her life for enemies who have tried to kill her, and treating most people with courtesy and compassion; and that her usual levels of slapping or berating are pretty much always in response to when Ranma either insults her most insecure spots, or ends up in severely incriminating NotWhatItLooksLike scenarios. Both they and people who don't like her, but don't hate her also sometimes feel that she is clearly "punished" by the series, due to all the [[WeirdnessMagnet weird crap that happens to her]] (including being initially harassed at her school, [[DistressedDamsel getting kidnapped by various lunatics]], [[BelligerentSexualTension constantly bickering with her]] [[ArrangedMarriage unwanted]] fiancee, [[LoveDodecahedron multiple romantic rivals]] [[HeroicSelfDeprecation who make her feel inferior]], and [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption her manic efforts seldom pay off]]). The one trait of a JerkSue she inarguably does have is that characters around her seldom reprimand her when she does do something wrong, and Ranma is often singled out when the blame is shared for deeds in which she is involved. Akane herself usually apologizes to Ranma when she realizes she's been unfair or considers her deeds wrong in hindsight, and is inevitably embarrassed when she feels she went over the line (such as during the Super Soba story). This trait is much less apparent in her anime incarnation however. Much like Naru's LoveHina example earlier, Akane is flanderized to some extent in the anime compared to the manga. This removes some of her more sympathetic moments and adds a lot more ComedicSociopathy to her portrayal in filler episodes.
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* Lightning from FinalFantasyXIII. Due to AbuseIsOkayWhenItsFemaleOnMale, Lightning has an entire plot to beat up Snow, who treats her well and is the closest thing to a family member she has. She has also done other horrible things to the cast, including pushing Hope to the ground (Hope, by the way, is fourteen). She shows little developement throughout the game, and the little bits of story we get also show that she was always this way, even before Serah had turned to crystal. Her character comes off as the creators trying to make a strong female character, but confused "strong female" with "intollerant bitch."

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* Lightning from FinalFantasyXIII. Due to AbuseIsOkayWhenItsFemaleOnMale, Lightning has an entire plot to beat up Snow, who treats her well and is the closest thing to a family member she has. She has also done other horrible things to the cast, including pushing Hope to the ground (Hope, by the way, is fourteen). She shows little developement throughout the game, and the little bits of story we get also show that she was always this way, even before Serah had turned to crystal. Her character comes off as the creators trying to make a strong female character, but confused "strong female" with "intollerant bitch."
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* Lightning from FinalFantasyXIII. Due to AbuseIsOkayWhenItsFemaleOnMale, Lightning has an entire plot to beat up Snow, who treats her well and is the closest thing to a family member she has. She has also done other horrible things to the cast, including pushing hope to the ground (Hope, by the way, is fourteen). She shows little developement throughout the game, and the little bits of story we get also show that she was always this way, even before Serah had turned to crystal. Her character comes off as the creators trying to make a strong female character, but confused "strong female" with "intollerant bitch."

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* Lightning from FinalFantasyXIII. Due to AbuseIsOkayWhenItsFemaleOnMale, Lightning has an entire plot to beat up Snow, who treats her well and is the closest thing to a family member she has. She has also done other horrible things to the cast, including pushing hope Hope to the ground (Hope, by the way, is fourteen). She shows little developement throughout the game, and the little bits of story we get also show that she was always this way, even before Serah had turned to crystal. Her character comes off as the creators trying to make a strong female character, but confused "strong female" with "intollerant bitch."
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* Lightning from FinalFantasyXIII. Due to AbuseIsOkayWhenItsFemaleOnMale, Lightning has an entire plot to beat up Snow, who treats her well and is the closest thing to a family member she has. She has also done other horrible things to the cast, including pushing hope to the ground (Hope, by the way, is fourteen). She shows little developement throughout the game, and the little bits of story we get also show that she was always this way, even before Serah had turned to crystal. Her character comes off as the creators trying to make a strong female character, but confused "strong female" with "intollerant bitch."

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* ''FinalJustice''. While Joe Don Baker's character was actually likeable in ''{{Mitchell}}'', if a bit slovenly, when you have a character named "Thomas Jefferson Geronimo" (!) who basically can wander into some sovereign country and abuse its citizenry. The people who call him out on this are portrayed as effete idiots or betray him later.

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* ''FinalJustice''. While Joe Don Baker's character was actually somewhat likeable in ''{{Mitchell}}'', if a bit slovenly, when you have a character named "Thomas Jefferson Geronimo" (!) who basically can wander into some sovereign country and abuse its citizenry. The people who call him out on this are portrayed as effete idiots or betray him later.later.
** Again, {{Mitchell}} was ''somewhat'' likable, but if the movie's villain has to advise the hero that he should be nicer, the hero is a jerk.
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* Matt Albie in ''{{Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip}}'' fits this trope to a T.He is unfriendly,snobby,insults people on a regular basis and treats everyone around Him like dirt yet everyone treats Him as though He is a candidate for sainthood and He is portrayed as being right on almost every single issue that comes up.Danny even describes Him as one of the best guys He has ever known.The fact that Matt has many similarities with Aaron Sorkin probably has something to do with that.
** Simon Stiles also fits this pretty well.After hiring a new black comedian (Although it was more like telling Him after He insulted His routine),He proceeds to constantly mistreat Darius,by insisting that He call Him sir,speak to Him a certain way and acts personally offended when Darius doesn't want to do a sketch which He feels would pigeonhole Him as the black writer.Given that Simon was nearly fired once for being unable to impersonate certain black celebrities,one would expect Him to be at least partly sympathetic and reasonable about the whole thing.Instead He acts like a complete jerk,makes Darius read racist letters that were sent to Simon and tells Darius that he would have vanished into obscurity had Simon not saved Him,to which Darius is unsurprisingly enraged.The show tries to say that Simon was right all along (Something about Racism and how They should find it humourous,I think?) and completely ignores Darius' feelings about the whole thing.

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* Matt Albie in ''{{Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip}}'' fits this trope to a T.He is unfriendly,snobby,insults people on a regular basis and treats everyone around Him him like dirt yet everyone treats Him him as though He is a candidate for sainthood and He he is portrayed as being right on almost every single issue that comes up.Danny even describes Him him as one of the best guys He he has ever known.The fact that Matt has many similarities with Aaron Sorkin probably has something to do with that.
** Simon Stiles also fits this pretty well.After hiring a new black comedian (Although it was more like telling Him him after He he insulted His routine),He his routine),he proceeds to constantly mistreat Darius,by insisting that He he call Him him sir,speak to Him him a certain way and acts personally offended when Darius doesn't want to do a sketch which He he feels would pigeonhole Him him as the black writer.Given that Simon was nearly fired once for being unable to impersonate certain black celebrities,one would expect Him him to be at least partly sympathetic and reasonable about the whole thing.Instead He he acts like a complete jerk,makes Darius read racist letters that were sent to Simon and tells Darius that he would have vanished into obscurity had Simon not saved Him,to him,to which Darius is unsurprisingly enraged.The show tries to say that Simon was right all along (Something about Racism racism and how They they should find it humourous,I think?) and completely ignores Darius' feelings about the whole thing.
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**As to the chewing out the board bit, Tim was out of town and Dick went on about how he doesn't have a head for business. It was implied that Dickw as letting him do it becuase Dick didn't think he'd do a good enough job as acting CEO and felt Damain should feel useful. Plus, Damian wasn't acting as CEO, he was just pointing out something to them, ''Dick'' was the acting CEO, he just didn't like it. On the second point, Tim hates Damian just as much.
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** It's [[YourMileageMayVary debatable]], but Godot ''may'' be considered a straight example. Like Franziska, he gets away with some pretty sociopathic stuff, like throwing scaulding hot coffee at Phoenix, disrespecting the judge etc. [[spoiler: also in the final case of the game, his selfish scheme to put Maya in danger and save her himself gets Misty Fey, (Mia and Maya's mother) killed. He never gets called out on [[NeverMyFault blaming Phoenix for putting Maya in danger]] and he is the one person who Franziska doesn't whip for not worshipping the ground she walks on. Despite the fact that the whole tragedy was Godot's fault, Iris doesn't rat him out, despite the fact that it he was trying to frame her for his crime and [[SenselessSacrifice it could have led to the death penalty]], and even Maya (the person ''whose mother'' Godot killed) was willing to take the heat for him. Not that he ever gets called out on any of this. When he finally does admit that [[ItsAllMyFault it was his own fault]], it's only because he comes to the conclusion himself, rather than let anyone give him a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbal smackdown about what he did]]. At the end of the case, even ''Phoenix'' wants to believe that he did it all for a noble reason and is [[HoYay heartbroken]] that he wasn't able to save Godot.]]

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** It's [[YourMileageMayVary debatable]], but Godot ''may'' may be considered a straight example. Like Franziska, he gets away with some pretty sociopathic stuff, like throwing scaulding hot coffee at Phoenix, disrespecting the judge etc. [[spoiler: also in the final case of the game, his selfish scheme to put Maya in danger and save her himself gets Misty Fey, (Mia and Maya's mother) killed. He never gets called out on [[NeverMyFault blaming Phoenix for putting Maya in danger]] and he is the one person who Franziska doesn't whip for not worshipping the ground she walks on. Despite the fact that the whole tragedy was Godot's fault, Iris doesn't rat him out, despite the fact that it he was trying to frame her for his crime and [[SenselessSacrifice it could have led to the death penalty]], and even Maya (the person ''whose mother'' Godot killed) was willing to take the heat for him. Not that he ever gets called out on any of this. When he finally does admit that [[ItsAllMyFault it was his own fault]], it's only because he comes to the conclusion himself, rather than let anyone give him a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbal smackdown about what he did]]. At the end of the case, even ''Phoenix'' wants to believe that he did it all for a noble reason and is [[HoYay heartbroken]] that he wasn't able to save Godot.]]
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* ''{{Everybody Loves Raymond}}'''s Debra Barone is the queen of this trope to her many detractors. The quote at the top of this page totally applies to her. She is supposed to be seen as sympathetic because she lives across the street from Ray's meddlesome family (and because Ray is afraid to stand up to them), but some of the things Debra did to Ray bordered on abuse. Things such as shoving Ray into bookshelves, physically beating him on multiple occasions, being a total hypocrite, calling Ray an idiot in basically every episode, making bets with the kids that Ray would screw up, and on one occasion even faking plastic surgery on herself just to trap Ray into admitting he liked the fake changes. Debra frequently got her comeuppance (mainly via Marie, but Ray would usually still be unhelpful by episode's end), and she'd react with a temper tantrum. The series does a lot of AwLookTheyReallyLoveEachOther moments to make up for this.

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* ''{{Everybody Loves Raymond}}'''s Debra Barone is the queen of this trope to her many detractors. The quote at the top of this page totally applies to her. She is supposed to be seen as sympathetic because she lives across the street from Ray's meddlesome family (and because Ray is afraid to stand up to them), but some of the things Debra did to Ray bordered on abuse. Things such as shoving Ray into bookshelves, physically beating him on multiple occasions, being a total hypocrite, calling Ray an idiot in basically every episode, making bets with the kids that Ray would screw up, and on one occasion even faking plastic surgery on herself just to trap Ray into admitting he liked the fake changes. Debra frequently got her comeuppance (mainly via Marie, but Ray would usually still be unhelpful by episode's end), and she'd react with a temper tantrum. The series does a lot of AwLookTheyReallyLoveEachOther AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther moments to make up for this.
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Deleting non-examples- Victoria isn\'t an inversio of this trope, she\'s just not an example; Ramona is a Defrosting Ice Queen and is shown to be remarkably understanding of Scott, who is the real jerkass in the film. She doesn\'t show much concern for his safety (except when she does), but for the most part, no one does (except when they do)-that\'s the video game logic of the movie


* Ramona Flowers from [[Scott Pilgrim vs The World]].She is cold,unfriendly and shows little to no concern for Scott's safety whilst fighting Her evil exes.Yet Scott still fights vehemently for Her and treats Her like the perfect woman.
* Nicely averted in [[Stardust]].Victoria often mistreats Tristan and appears cold and snobby yet He goes out of His way for Her affection,blind to the fact that She doesn't think much of Him.In the end when She accepts Him,He tells Her to grow up and get over Herself,choosing to pursue Yvaine instead.
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* Matt Albie in ''{{Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip}}'' fits this trope to a T.He is unfriendly,snobby,insults people on a regular basis and treats everyone around Him like dirt yet everyone treats Him as though He is a candidate for sainthood and He is portrayed as being right on almost every single issue that comes up.Danny even describes Him as one of the best guys He has ever known.The fact that Matt has many similarities with Aaron Sorkin probably has something to do with that.
** Simon Stiles also fits this pretty well.After hiring a new black comedian (Although it was more like telling Him after He insulted His routine),He proceeds to constantly mistreat Darius,by insisting that He call Him sir,speak to Him a certain way and acts personally offended when Darius doesn't want to do a sketch which He feels would pigeonhole Him as the black writer.Given that Simon was nearly fired once for being unable to impersonate certain black celebrities,one would expect Him to be at least partly sympathetic and reasonable about the whole thing.Instead He acts like a complete jerk,makes Darius read racist letters that were sent to Simon and tells Darius that he would have vanished into obscurity had Simon not saved Him,to which Darius is unsurprisingly enraged.The show tries to say that Simon was right all along (Something about Racism and how They should find it humourous,I think?) and completely ignores Darius' feelings about the whole thing.
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* Ramona Flowers from [[Scott Pilgrim vs The World]].She is cold,unfriendly and shows little to no concern for Scott's safety whilst fighting Her evil exes.Yet Scott still fights vehemently for Her and treats Her like the perfect woman.
* Nicely averted in [[Stardust]].Victoria often mistreats Tristan and appears cold and snobby yet He goes out of His way for Her affection,blind to the fact that She doesn't think much of Him.In the end when She accepts Him,He tells Her to grow up and get over Herself,choosing to pursue Yvaine instead.
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* [[HannahMontana Hannah Montana]]. She treats all her friends like dirt. Whenever one of them makes a comment, she shuts them down hard with what is apparently supposed to be... 'wit'. Presumably this is done because for a T.V. show to work it needs problems for the character to solve. But when three quarters of the episodes only exist because Hannah blows a petty problem out of proportion... one wonders why her friends don't call her out on it?
** Oliver did one episode. When Hannah beat him out for a job and he complained that she always got everything. Of course, instead of quitting the job to make Oliver feel better, she acted like even more of a Jerk Sue and got fired.
*** And then she found out a hot guy was gonna be in the movie, and was able to get back in after ''pouring ice water down the diector's shirt.''
*** Actually what happened was that [[spoiler:Oliver was auditioning for something while Miley was auditioning for a movie role. Oliver didn't get the part but Miley did causing Oliver to complained that Miley always gets everything causing tensions between the two. Miley thinks that to prove that she doesn't get everything, she tries to act like a spoiled brat insulting and being rude to the director and acting her stuffed dog is real. This backfires when the director thought that she was a really good actress which she then pours down ice water down his shirt. Miley and Oliver made up, however soon Oliver got a call that he did get the part]]. Um, so yeah.
** This is somewhat justified. When every other character is a Jerk Sue, your only response is to be a Jerk Sue back. The only two characters on the show who aren't Jerk Sues are Jackson and Rico ([[AffablyEvil no, he's not a jerk, he's just evil]]).
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*** Actually what happened was that [[spoiler:Oliver was auditioning for something (I can't remember) while Miley was auditioning for a movie role. Oliver didn't get the part but Miley did causing Oliver to complained that Miley always gets everything causing tensions between the two. Miley thinks that to prove that she doesn't get everything, she tries to act like a spoiled brat insulting and being rude to the director and acting her stuffed dog is real. This backfires when the director thought that she was a really good actress which she then pours down ice water down his shirt. Miley and Oliver made up, however soon Oliver got a call that he did get the part]]. Um, so yeah.

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*** Actually what happened was that [[spoiler:Oliver was auditioning for something (I can't remember) while Miley was auditioning for a movie role. Oliver didn't get the part but Miley did causing Oliver to complained that Miley always gets everything causing tensions between the two. Miley thinks that to prove that she doesn't get everything, she tries to act like a spoiled brat insulting and being rude to the director and acting her stuffed dog is real. This backfires when the director thought that she was a really good actress which she then pours down ice water down his shirt. Miley and Oliver made up, however soon Oliver got a call that he did get the part]]. Um, so yeah.
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*** Actually what happened was that [[spoiler:Oliver was auditioning for a school play while Miley was auditioning for a movie role. Oliver didn't get the part but Miley did causing Oliver to complained that Miley always gets everything causing tensions between the two. Miley thinks that to prove that she doesn't get everything, she tries to act like a spoiled brat insulting and being rude to the director and acting her stuffed dog is real. This backfires when the director thought that she was a really good actress which she then pours down ice water down his shirt. Miley and Oliver made up, however soon Oliver got a call that he did get the part]]. Um, so yeah.

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*** Actually what happened was that [[spoiler:Oliver was auditioning for a school play something (I can't remember) while Miley was auditioning for a movie role. Oliver didn't get the part but Miley did causing Oliver to complained that Miley always gets everything causing tensions between the two. Miley thinks that to prove that she doesn't get everything, she tries to act like a spoiled brat insulting and being rude to the director and acting her stuffed dog is real. This backfires when the director thought that she was a really good actress which she then pours down ice water down his shirt. Miley and Oliver made up, however soon Oliver got a call that he did get the part]]. Um, so yeah.
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*** Actually what happened was that [[spoiler:Oliver was auditioning for a school play while Miley was auditioning for a movie role. Oliver didn't get the part but Miley did causing Oliver to complained that Miley always gets everything causing tensions between the two. Miley thinks that to prove that she doesn't get everything, she tries to act like a spoiled brat insulting and being rude to the director and acting her stuffed dog is real. This backfires when the director thought that she was a really good actress which she then pours down ice water down his shirt. Miley and Oliver made up, however soon Oliver got a call that he did get the part]]. Um, so yeah.
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* Slimer became one constantly in ''TheRealGhostbusters'', and a little less commonly, but still occasionally, in ''ExtremeGhostbusters''. "Sliming" people who always make it clear that they don't want it is practically the ''hilight'' of his behavior; he also steals the food of his teammates whenever he can get away with it, and gets underfoot with annoying behavior. Yet when anybody (usually Peter) objects, ''they're'' the ones that the plot treats as wrong; meanwhile Slimer never learns; he just keeps on being obnoxious, only occasionally redeeming himself in moments of heroism. In fact, he [[KarmaHoudini escaped repercussions]] to such a point that ''TheRealGhostbusters'' was retooled into having [[TheWesley a bigger focus around him]].

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* Slimer became one constantly in ''TheRealGhostbusters'', and a little less commonly, but still occasionally, in ''ExtremeGhostbusters''. "Sliming" people who always make it clear that they don't want it is practically the ''hilight'' ''highlight'' of his behavior; he also steals the food of his teammates whenever he can get away with it, and gets underfoot with annoying behavior. Yet when anybody (usually Peter) objects, ''they're'' the ones that the plot treats as wrong; meanwhile Slimer never learns; he just keeps on being obnoxious, only occasionally redeeming himself in moments of heroism. In fact, he [[KarmaHoudini escaped repercussions]] to such a point that ''TheRealGhostbusters'' was retooled into having [[TheWesley a bigger focus around him]].
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** Due to Sonic's aloof attitude and the glorified treatment of his 'attitude' in most medias, a few enterpretations have shades of this trope at times, even if most are mercifully toned down and more likeable in comparison to the former example. ''Sonic Chronicles'' goes as far as to lampshade the games' version's tendency to neglect his friends for long periods of time and then return idolized and treated as a heroic leader.

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** Due to Sonic's aloof attitude and the glorified treatment of his 'attitude' in most medias, a few enterpretations interpretations have shades of this trope at times, even if most are mercifully toned down and more likeable in comparison to the former example. ''Sonic Chronicles'' goes as far as to lampshade the games' version's tendency to neglect his friends for long periods of time and then return idolized and treated as a heroic leader.
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Mary Jane from [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 2]] onwards.After she TookALevelInJerkAss she treats Peter as if he's a mass rapist because he missed her play, having NoSympathy for the fact that working two jobs to keep up his rent and struggling to keep his grades up, he doesn't have as much free time as say Harry, who's been to see it multiple times. When she finds out that Peter is Spider-Man [[RunawayBride she leaves her fiance' a note to say that he's been dumped]], so she can be with a super hero, despite the fact that the poor guy was never portrayed as anything but an ideal husband-to-be. The movie treats her leaving him at the altar as ''a good thing'', and it's never even brought up in the third film, even though the groom was Jameson's son and could have made Peter's life even worse. In the following film, most of her scenes revolve around her throwing borderline tantrums and treating Peter like dirt, just for trying to make her feel better, when a theater review said she was a bad actress, by explaining that he'd had worse with the Daily Bugle. While getting mad at Peter for sharing "[[MemeticMutation Our Kiss!]]" with Gwen may have been justified, it's worth noting that when they had "[[MemeticMutation That kiss]]", [[DoubleStandard she was dating Harry at the time]], so [[{{Hypocrite}} She gets mad at Peter for doing the exact same thing that she did]]. [[GreenEyedMonster She also gets jealous]] [[AttentionWhore of how popular Spider-Man has become]] for actually doing good in the city. And yet for all this jerkassery, Peter still worships the ground she walks on, she's treated like the perfect girlfriend.

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* Mary Jane from [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 2]] onwards.After she TookALevelInJerkAss she treats Peter as if he's a mass rapist because he missed her play, having NoSympathy for the fact that working two jobs to keep up his rent and struggling to keep his grades up, he doesn't have as much free time as say Harry, who's been to see it multiple times. When she finds out that Peter is Spider-Man [[RunawayBride she leaves her fiance' a note to say that he's been dumped]], so she can be with a super hero, despite the fact that the poor guy was never portrayed as anything but an ideal husband-to-be. The movie treats her leaving him at the altar as ''a good thing'', and it's never even brought up in the third film, even though the groom was Jameson's son and could have made Peter's life even worse. In the following film, most of her scenes revolve around her throwing borderline tantrums and treating Peter like dirt, just for trying to make her feel better, when a theater review said she was a bad actress, by explaining that he'd had worse with the Daily Bugle. While getting mad at Peter for sharing "[[MemeticMutation Our Kiss!]]" with Gwen may have been justified, it's worth noting that when they had "[[MemeticMutation That kiss]]", [[DoubleStandard she was dating Harry at the time]], so [[{{Hypocrite}} She gets mad at Peter for doing the exact same thing that she did]]. [[GreenEyedMonster She also gets jealous]] [[AttentionWhore of how popular Spider-Man has become]] for actually doing good in the city. And yet for all this jerkassery, Peter still worships the ground she walks on, she's treated like the perfect girlfriend.
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It\'s pretty obvious that you do. You haven\'t given one single reasonable argument against her being listed here. All you\'ve done is accuse people of listing her purely out of dislike for the character.Hell you yourself even admitted that she was a Jerk Sue in the second film.

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Mary Jane from [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 2]] onwards.After she TookALevelInJerkAss she treats Peter as if he's a mass rapist because he missed her play, having NoSympathy for the fact that working two jobs to keep up his rent and struggling to keep his grades up, he doesn't have as much free time as say Harry, who's been to see it multiple times. When she finds out that Peter is Spider-Man [[RunawayBride she leaves her fiance' a note to say that he's been dumped]], so she can be with a super hero, despite the fact that the poor guy was never portrayed as anything but an ideal husband-to-be. The movie treats her leaving him at the altar as ''a good thing'', and it's never even brought up in the third film, even though the groom was Jameson's son and could have made Peter's life even worse. In the following film, most of her scenes revolve around her throwing borderline tantrums and treating Peter like dirt, just for trying to make her feel better, when a theater review said she was a bad actress, by explaining that he'd had worse with the Daily Bugle. While getting mad at Peter for sharing "[[MemeticMutation Our Kiss!]]" with Gwen may have been justified, it's worth noting that when they had "[[MemeticMutation That kiss]]", [[DoubleStandard she was dating Harry at the time]], so [[{{Hypocrite}} She gets mad at Peter for doing the exact same thing that she did]]. [[GreenEyedMonster She also gets jealous]] [[AttentionWhore of how popular Spider-Man has become]] for actually doing good in the city. And yet for all this jerkassery, Peter still worships the ground she walks on, she's treated like the perfect girlfriend.
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The Teen Titans thing is out of date


** And now, Damian is joining the [[ComicBook/TeenTitans Teen Titans]]. He's 10 years old. He isn't a teenager. Until he becomes a teenager, technically he shouldn't be on the team.

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** And now, Then again, every contemporary Batman storyline (excluding Batman and Robin, because, well, ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin) has a scene where Batman tells Damian is joining to stay in the [[ComicBook/TeenTitans Teen Titans]]. He's 10 years old. He isn't a teenager. Until he becomes a teenager, technically he shouldn't be on the team.Batcave, despite Damian's protests.
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Actually, I don\'t have that much care for her at all. I just understand that a Jerk Sue isn\'t just \"a character I think is a jerk but doesn\'t get punished for it the way I want them to\".


* Mary Jane from [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 2]] onwards.After she TookALevelInJerkAss she treats Peter as if he's a mass rapist because he missed her play, having NoSympathy for the fact that working two jobs to keep up his rent and struggling to keep his grades up, he doesn't have as much free time as say Harry, who's been to see it multiple times. When she finds out that Peter is Spider-Man [[RunawayBride she leaves her fiance' a note to say that he's been dumped]], so she can be with a super hero, despite the fact that the poor guy was never portrayed as anything but an ideal husband-to-be. The movie treats her leaving him at the altar as ''a good thing'', and it's never even brought up in the third film, even though the groom was Jameson's son and could have made Peter's life even worse.

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** Averted in Kelly's Heros. He's cynical, yeah, but he avoids being a jerk about it most of the time.

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** Averted in Kelly's Heros. Heroes. He's cynical, yeah, but he avoids being a jerk about it most of the time.time.
**Although he does neglect to tell the others that the gold is being protected by [[spoiler:three Tiger tanks and 50 or more SS Panzergrenadiers]].
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To be honest, it seems more like you\'re just defending your pet character from people saying things you don\'t like... I personally liked the character, but she certainly does have many qualities of a Jerk Sue, particularly in the second movie, so you\'re just going to have to live with it.

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* Mary Jane from [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 2]] onwards.After she TookALevelInJerkAss she treats Peter as if he's a mass rapist because he missed her play, having NoSympathy for the fact that working two jobs to keep up his rent and struggling to keep his grades up, he doesn't have as much free time as say Harry, who's been to see it multiple times. When she finds out that Peter is Spider-Man [[RunawayBride she leaves her fiance' a note to say that he's been dumped]], so she can be with a super hero, despite the fact that the poor guy was never portrayed as anything but an ideal husband-to-be. The movie treats her leaving him at the altar as ''a good thing'', and it's never even brought up in the third film, even though the groom was Jameson's son and could have made Peter's life even worse.
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Sigh. Again, this is waaaaay too much of Complaing About Characters You Don\'tLike rather than Jerk Sue; another example of someone throwing the term \"Sue\" around for any character they hate and think isn\'t treated as badly as they think they should in canon.


** He becomes a full one in the comics set after the film.
** He ''admits'' it. Remember when he blew the face off his magical deadite twin? "Good? Bad? I'm the one with the gun." He's not nice, he's not ''trying'' to be nice, he just wants to get home and he's perfectly willing to let a ZombieApocalypse take over the world to let it happen. Since, obviously, [[StableTimeLoop there's not zombies ruling the world in the future]], it apparently all got sorted out, so who cares anyway right?



* Mary Jane from [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 2]] onwards.After she TookALevelInJerkAss she treats Peter as if he's a mass rapist because he missed her play, having NoSympathy for the fact that working two jobs to keep up his rent and struggling to keep his grades up, he doesn't have as much free time as say Harry, who's been to see it multiple times. When she finds out that Peter is Spider-Man [[RunawayBride she leaves her fiance' a note to say that he's been dumped]], so she can be with a super hero, despite the fact that the poor guy was never portrayed as anything but an ideal husband-to-be. The movie treats her leaving him at the altar as ''a good thing'', and it's never even brought up in the third film, even though the groom was Jameson's son and could have made Peter's life even worse. In the following film, most of her scenes revolve around her throwing borderline tantrums and treating Peter like dirt, just for trying to make her feel better, when a theater review said she was a bad actress, by explaining that he'd had worse with the Daily Bugle. While getting mad at Peter for sharing "[[MemeticMutation Our Kiss!]]" with Gwen may have been justified, it's worth noting that when they had "[[MemeticMutation That kiss]]", [[DoubleStandard she was dating Harry at the time]], so [[{{Hypocrite}} She gets mad at Peter for doing the exact same thing that she did]]. [[GreenEyedMonster She also gets jealous]] [[AttentionWhore of how popular Spider-Man has become]] for actually doing good in the city. And yet for all this jerkassery, Peter still worships the ground she walks on, she's treated like the perfect girlfriend.

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** It's a {{heel face turn}} from what she said in her introduction
-->"I am quite tall and slim and but with really big boobs that I used to HATE because they look noticeable on my slender body and draw to much attention but now i like them and don't care who stares at me! "


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\n** It's a {{heel face turn}} complete turnaround from what she said in her introduction
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-->"I am quite tall and slim and but with really big boobs that I used to HATE because they look noticeable on my slender body and draw to much attention but now i like them and don't care who stares at me! "

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** Let's not forget Romano, who gets [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into a bitchy and whiny caricature of his canon {{Tsundere}} self who Spain worships in spite of receiving nothing but horrible treatment and verbal and physical beatings from him in far too many Spain/Romano fics. It's so bad that some fans began assuming that Romano was like this ''in canon'' too, which is ''not'' true: Romano has an abrasive personality and HairTriggerTemper in canon, but he also has several scenes of showing clear concern or care for Spain or being the ButtMonkey in general, and Spain actually loses his temper with him on a few occasions (it's even kind of hinted that Romano got ''better'' over time, as his treatment of Spain as an adult is milder than his treatment of Spain was as a kid, and Spain doesn't show the same kind of exasperation he did when Romano was a kid).
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Said members DO however, take far less involvement with the current team or willingly quit (merely serving as mentors, or even going on to start/join their own groups) and have already gone through puberty. Damien was pretty much forced into the group, thus cementing his \"Sue status\" here.


*** Just like how they kick people off the team the instant they turn 20. [[ArtifactTitle Oh wait, no they don't.]]
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Mary Jane from [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 2]] onwards.After she TookALevelInJerkAss she treats Peter as if he's a mass rapist because he missed her play, having NoSympathy for the fact that working two jobs to keep up his rent and struggling to keep his grades up, he doesn't have as much free time as say Harry, who's been to see it multiple times. When she finds out that Peter is Spider-Man [[RunawayBride she leaves her fiance' a note to say that he's been dumped]], so she can be with a super hero, despite the fact that the poor guy was never portrayed as anything but an ideal husband-to-be. The movie treats her leaving him at the altar as ''a good thing'', and it's never even brought up in the third film, even though the groom was Jameson's son and could have made Peter's life even worse. In the following film, most of her scenes revolve around her throwing borderline tantrums and treating Peter like dirt, just for trying to make her feel better, when a theater review said she was a bad actress, by explaining that he'd had worse with the Daily Bugle. While getting mad at Peter for sharing "[[MemeticMutation Our Kiss!]]" with Gwen may have been justified, it's worth noting that when they had "[[MemeticMutation That kiss]]", [[DoubleStandard she was dating Harry at the time]], so [[{{Hypocrite}} She gets mad at Peter for doing the exact same thing that she did]]. [[GreenEyedMonster She also gets jealous]] [[AttentionWhore of how popular Spider-Man has become]] for actually doing good in the city. And yet for all this jerkassery, Peter still worships the ground she walks on, she's treated like the perfect girlfriend.

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* Mary Jane from [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 2]] onwards.After she TookALevelInJerkAss she treats Peter as if he's a mass rapist because he missed her play, having NoSympathy for the fact that working two jobs to keep up his rent and struggling to keep his grades up, he doesn't have as much free time as say Harry, who's been to see it multiple times. When she finds out that Peter is Spider-Man [[RunawayBride she leaves her fiance' a note to say that he's been dumped]], so she can be with a super hero, despite the fact that the poor guy was never portrayed as anything but an ideal husband-to-be. The movie treats her leaving him at the altar as ''a good thing'', and it's never even brought up in the third film, even though the groom was Jameson's son and could have made Peter's life even worse. In the following film, most of her scenes revolve around her throwing borderline tantrums and treating Peter like dirt, just for trying to make her feel better, when a theater review said she was a bad actress, by explaining that he'd had worse with the Daily Bugle. While getting mad at Peter for sharing "[[MemeticMutation Our Kiss!]]" with Gwen may have been justified, it's worth noting that when they had "[[MemeticMutation That kiss]]", [[DoubleStandard she was dating Harry at the time]], so [[{{Hypocrite}} She gets mad at Peter for doing the exact same thing that she did]]. [[GreenEyedMonster She also gets jealous]] [[AttentionWhore of how popular Spider-Man has become]] for actually doing good in the city. And yet for all this jerkassery, Peter still worships the ground she walks on, she's treated like the perfect girlfriend.
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*** And then she found out a hot guy was gonna be in the movie, and was able to get back in after ''pouring ice water down the diector's shirt.''
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* Ronan Beelzebub of Fanfic/NarutoVeanganceRevelaitons regularly cheats on his girlfriend Sakura, calls her names such as "slut," "whore" or "bitch", [[spoiler:agrees to her suggestion that she cut off her vagina for cheating on him]]. He regularly assaults people for looking at him wrong, makes liking modern music illegal, and bulldozes churches, yet has nothing less than the complete loyalty of his subjects, with the exception of those allied with the villains.

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