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* Charlie Brown in ''{{ComicStrip/Peanuts}}'' claims that everyone hates him and he has no friends, even though Schroeder and Linus are clearly his friends, and although Lucy insults him, she also hangs around with him an awful lot. Also, all the neighborhood kids let him be manager and captain of the baseball team. Of course, this makes more sense when you know that the creator Charles M. Schulz, even when he had a wife, five children, and millions of fans, still complained of being anxious and lonely. This is slightly more evident, if still underwhelming, in the animated cartoons, where the others can sometimes be [[ComedicSociopathy more apathetic or ignorant of his suffering]]. Charlie Brown's defining characteristics are being wishy-washy and most of the symptoms you think of when you hear the term "clinical depression". Too bad ThereAreNoTherapists other than Lucy.

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* Charlie Brown in ''{{ComicStrip/Peanuts}}'' claims that everyone hates him and he has no friends, even though Schroeder and Linus are clearly his friends, and although Lucy insults him, she also hangs around with him an awful lot. Also, all the neighborhood kids let him be manager and captain of the baseball team. Of course, this makes more sense when you know that the creator Charles M. Schulz, even when he had a wife, five children, and millions of fans, still complained of being anxious and lonely. This is slightly more evident, if still underwhelming, in the animated cartoons, where the others can sometimes be [[ComedicSociopathy more apathetic or ignorant of his suffering]]. Charlie Brown's defining characteristics are being wishy-washy and most of the symptoms you think of when you hear the term "clinical depression". Too bad ThereAreNoTherapists other (other than Lucy.Lucy, who's probably worse than nothing in terns of therapy).



*** However, this is something of an in-universe example, as due to the time manipulation, no iteration of the Doctor, except the eleventh (being the latest iteration involved) can remember the events, so they all THINK the War Doctor did something much worse than he did (killing the Time Lords, instead of saving them). Thanks to TimeyWimeyBall shenanigans it's entirely possible that the first time around he really did do it; he definitely made the decision to do so and was only prevented at the last second.

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*** However, this is something of an in-universe example, as due to the time manipulation, no iteration of the Doctor, except the eleventh (being the latest iteration involved) Doctor can remember the events, events (Eleven, because he's the last in their timeline, keeps his memories after Ten and War leave, but didn't have their memories until that point either), so they all THINK the War Doctor did something much worse than he did (killing the Time Lords, instead of saving them). Thanks to TimeyWimeyBall shenanigans it's entirely possible that the first time around he really did do it; he definitely made the decision to do so and was only prevented at the last second.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/HomeMovies'', especially the last season, everyone criticizes the main character's movies as being horrible, but they're actually pretty good, even by adult standards - and the characters doing them are pre-teens.


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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'': Toki Wartooth, Dethklok's rhythm guitarist and almost-literal second-fiddle to Skwisgaar Skwigelf, has an entire episode devoted to his inability to play the guitar. However, the only time we actually hear him play during the episode, he's upstaging Skwisgaar during a concert and doing a good enough job of it to threaten his confidence. The rest of the time, he's not as good as Skwisgaar and there is considerable distance between them in terms of skill, but he's still the world's second-fastest guitarist.
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* It's mentioned at multiple points in ''Manga/KaguyaSamaLoveIsWar'' that there is a sharp divide between pures ([[ElevatorSchool the rich kids who have been attending Shuchi'in since elementary school]]), and impures ({{Scholarship Student}}s who began attending later in their academic careers) and that the former looks down on the latter. Barring some background comments during Shirogane's reelection, none of the three impures seen for the majority of the series are ever shown to be unpopular (in fact, both Shirogane siblings are indicated as being very high up the social ladder). It's only at the tail end of the series that we see the newest impure Takano being bullied, and even then it's more because he lords over everyone with his high grades.
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* On ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie'' Tony often laments about being court martialed due to one of Jeannie's latest schemes and this is often used as an excuse of why he refuses to reveal her existence [[note]] Indeed, in the AllJustADream episode where Dr. Bellows learns of her existence, he says he will resign from NASA as if this is a ForegoneConclusion. [[/note]] However, since most people don't even believe genies exist, it's never really explained ''why'' he would be court martialed for having one, or why her issues with her magic would make that happen, unless NASA in the sixties just court martialed people left & right for minor offenses.

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* On ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie'' Tony often laments about being court martialed due to one of Jeannie's latest schemes and this is often used as an excuse of why he refuses to reveal her existence [[note]] Indeed, existence.[[note]]Indeed, in the AllJustADream episode where Dr. Bellows learns of her existence, he says he will resign from NASA as if this is a ForegoneConclusion. [[/note]] However, since most people don't even believe genies exist, it's never really explained ''why'' he would be court martialed for having one, or why her issues with her magic would make that happen, unless NASA in the sixties just court martialed people left & right for minor offenses.
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** Renly claims Stannis would never be willing to negotiate. However, in the meeting, they'd just had Stannis did try to negotiate and offered Renly very reasonable terms which would probably end up making Renly King anyway. Likewise, the showrunners insist that Stannis' key flaw is "ambition" when he tells Davos that he didn't want the Iron Throne in Season 3 but feels he has to because it's his duty and likewise, saw the circumstances that led to Shireen's sacrifice as a ColdEquation.

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** Renly claims Stannis would never be willing to negotiate. However, in the meeting, meeting they'd just had Stannis did try to negotiate and offered Renly very reasonable terms which would probably end up making Renly King anyway. Likewise, the showrunners insist that Stannis' key flaw is "ambition" when he tells Davos that he didn't want the Iron Throne in Season 3 but feels he has to because it's his duty and likewise, saw the circumstances that led to Shireen's sacrifice as a ColdEquation.
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* ''Film/ItsAWonderfulLife'': George's guardian angel Clarence is described by the other angels as having [[KindheartedSimpleton the faith of a child, but the IQ of a rabbit]], but everything we see of him afterwards suggests that he's reasonably smart.
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* On ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie'' Tony often laments about being court martialed due to one of Jeannie's latest schemes and this is often used as as excuse of why he refuses to reveal her existence [[note]] Indeed, in the AllJustADream episode where Dr. Bellows learns of her existence, he says he will resign from NASA as if this a ForegoneConclusion. [[/note]] However, since most people don't even believe genies exist, it's never really explained ''why'' he would be court martialed for having one, or why her issues with her magic would make that happen, unless NASA in the sixties just court martialed people left & right for minor offenses.

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* On ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie'' Tony often laments about being court martialed due to one of Jeannie's latest schemes and this is often used as as an excuse of why he refuses to reveal her existence [[note]] Indeed, in the AllJustADream episode where Dr. Bellows learns of her existence, he says he will resign from NASA as if this is a ForegoneConclusion. [[/note]] However, since most people don't even believe genies exist, it's never really explained ''why'' he would be court martialed for having one, or why her issues with her magic would make that happen, unless NASA in the sixties just court martialed people left & right for minor offenses.
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* On ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie'' Tony often laments about being court martialed due to one of Jeannie's latest schemes and this is often used as as excuse of why he refuses to reveal her existence [[note]] Indeed, in the AllJustADream episode where Dr. Bellows learns of her existence, he says he will resign from NASA as if this a ForegoneConclusion. [[/note]] However, since most people don't even believe genies exist, it's never really explained ''why'' he would be court martialed for having one, or why her issues with her magic would make that happen, unless NASA in the sixties just court martialed people left & right for minor offenses.
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* Bandit from ''WesternAnimation/{{Bluey}}'' apparently has a weight problem and is concerned about being overweight, and needs to get into shape. He is, of course, drawn with the same rectangle shape as every other character.

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'':
If a Devil Fruit user eats a second Fruit, they will not just die, they will ''explode''. At least that's what Blueno claims. Thing is, there's as many things contradicting this as there is confirming it. For starters, it's never happened onscreen and nobody can relate the names of anyone who has done this. Not to mention, Blackbeard does indeed have the powers of two Fruits, having [[spoiler:stolen one from Whitebeard]], an exception that immediately strikes some witnesses as something that shouldn't have happened. However, while Blackbeard is the only one to have two and lived, nobody can claim to have witnessed an event where a user has exploded as a result of trying it. (Likely, few are willing to test it). Jabra seems to know someone who knows someone who this has happened to, and Blueno may have witnessed it himself. (Blueno does not believe ''anything'' he cannot confirm with his own senses, and he claims this ''is'' what happens if you eat a second, so he wouldn't have made the claim unless he was sure of it).

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'':
''Manga/OnePiece'': If a Devil Fruit user eats a second Fruit, they will not just die, they will ''explode''. At least that's what Blueno claims. Thing is, there's as many things contradicting this as there is confirming it. For starters, it's never happened onscreen and nobody can relate the names of anyone who has done this. Not to mention, Blackbeard does indeed have the powers of two Fruits, having [[spoiler:stolen one from Whitebeard]], an exception that immediately strikes some witnesses as something that shouldn't have happened. However, while Blackbeard is the only one to have two and lived, nobody can claim to have witnessed an event where a user has exploded as a result of trying it. (Likely, few are willing to test it). Jabra seems to know someone who knows someone who this has happened to, and Blueno may have witnessed it himself. (Blueno does not believe ''anything'' he cannot confirm with his own senses, and he claims this ''is'' what happens if you eat a second, so he wouldn't have made the claim unless he was sure of it).
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** If a Devil Fruit user eats a second Fruit, they will not just die, they will ''explode''. At least that's what Blueno claims. Thing is, there's as many things contradicting this as there is confirming it. For starters, it's never happened onscreen and nobody can relate the names of anyone who has done this. Not to mention, Blackbeard does indeed have the powers of two Fruits, having [[spoiler:stolen one from Whitebeard]], an exception that immediately strikes some witnesses as something that shouldn't have happened. However, while Blackbeard is the only one to have two and lived, nobody can claim to have witnessed an event where a user has exploded as a result of trying it. (Likely, few are willing to test it). Jabra seems to know someone who knows someone who this has happened to, and Blueno may have witnessed it himself. (Blueno does not believe ''anything'' he cannot confirm with his own senses, and he claims this ''is'' what happens if you eat a second, so he wouldn't have made the claim unless he was sure of it).

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** If a Devil Fruit user eats a second Fruit, they will not just die, they will ''explode''. At least that's what Blueno claims. Thing is, there's as many things contradicting this as there is confirming it. For starters, it's never happened onscreen and nobody can relate the names of anyone who has done this. Not to mention, Blackbeard does indeed have the powers of two Fruits, having [[spoiler:stolen one from Whitebeard]], an exception that immediately strikes some witnesses as something that shouldn't have happened. However, while Blackbeard is the only one to have two and lived, nobody can claim to have witnessed an event where a user has exploded as a result of trying it. (Likely, few are willing to test it). Jabra seems to know someone who knows someone who this has happened to, and Blueno may have witnessed it himself. (Blueno does not believe ''anything'' he cannot confirm with his own senses, and he claims this ''is'' what happens if you eat a second, so he wouldn't have made the claim unless he was sure of it).
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** ''Film/CaptainMarvel2019'' tells us early on that Carol is too emotional and prone to losing control of her powers because of it. Her emotions are never out of control and every use of her powers shows them being rather competent -- save for one moment where she angrily destroys a Skrull's computer (and even that was a controlled outburst). While this could be a form of {{Gaslighting}} [[spoiler:on the part of the Kree who want her to suppress her powers]], there's no indicator that this affected her at all either.
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** Likewise, Peter's boss, Angela, is also portrayed as being ugly and not worth having sex with, to the point where even ''[[AnythingThatMoves Quagmire]]'' absolutely refuses to do her. Other than Angela's breasts sagging down when they're revealed, she looks pretty plain.

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** Likewise, Peter's boss, Angela, is also portrayed as being ugly and not worth having sex with, to the point where even ''[[AnythingThatMoves ''[[ReallyGetsAround Quagmire]]'' absolutely refuses to do her. Other than Angela's breasts sagging down when they're revealed, she looks pretty plain.
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* In ''Series/TheBoys'', M.M. calls FishOutOfTemporalWater ArcVillain Soldier Boy a "racist piece of shit". While he certainly had some [[DeliberateValuesDissonance dated views]], he's never actually shown being racist towards black people or anyone else as he had high praise for Creator/BillCosby and the Mujahideen. The only implication of racism is him [[UsefulNotes/CivilRightsMovement hosing civil rights protesters in the 1960s]] being alluded to by The Legend, but is never actually shown. Of course, [[DestructiveSavior he killed M.M.'s family without any remorse]], so it's understandable why M.M. would assume racism given this. According to WordOfGod, there were [[WhatCouldHaveBeen initially going to be scenes with him actually being racist]] but Creator/JensenAckles was too uncomfortable with them.

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* In ''Series/TheBoys'', ''Series/{{The Boys|2019}}'', M.M. calls FishOutOfTemporalWater ArcVillain Soldier Boy a "racist piece of shit". While he certainly had some [[DeliberateValuesDissonance dated views]], he's never actually shown being racist towards black people or anyone else as he had high praise for Creator/BillCosby and the Mujahideen. The only implication of racism is him [[UsefulNotes/CivilRightsMovement hosing civil rights protesters in the 1960s]] being alluded to by The Legend, but is never actually shown. Of course, [[DestructiveSavior he killed M.M.'s family without any remorse]], so it's understandable why M.M. would assume racism given this. According to WordOfGod, there were [[WhatCouldHaveBeen initially going to be scenes with him actually being racist]] but Creator/JensenAckles was too uncomfortable with them.
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* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'': In one comic, it's claimed Susie eats sandwiches by taking them apart and eating each ingredient separately. Not only is this never referenced again, several later comics show Susie eating her sandwich normally.

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* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'': In one comic, ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' strip, it's claimed Susie eats sandwiches by taking them apart and eating each ingredient separately. Not only is this never referenced again, several later comics show Susie eating her sandwich normally.
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* ''Film/ABronxTale'': Tony Toupee supposedly insists on singing all the time despite being a terrible singer, but in all of his scenes, he's either staying quiet or being drowned out by a voiceover.
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* In ''Series/TheBoys'', M.M. calls FishOutOfTemporalWater ArcVillain Soldier Boy a "racist piece of shit". While he certainly had some [[DeliberateValuesDissonance dated views]], he's never actually shown being racist towards black people or anyone else as he had high praise for Creator/BillCosby and the Mujahideen. The only implication of racism is him [[UsefulNotes/CivilRightsMovement hosing civil rights protesters in the 1960s]] being alluded to by The Legend, but is never actually shown. Of course, [[DestructiveSavior he killed M.M.'s family without any remorse]], so it's understandable why M.M. would assume racism given this.

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* In ''Series/TheBoys'', M.M. calls FishOutOfTemporalWater ArcVillain Soldier Boy a "racist piece of shit". While he certainly had some [[DeliberateValuesDissonance dated views]], he's never actually shown being racist towards black people or anyone else as he had high praise for Creator/BillCosby and the Mujahideen. The only implication of racism is him [[UsefulNotes/CivilRightsMovement hosing civil rights protesters in the 1960s]] being alluded to by The Legend, but is never actually shown. Of course, [[DestructiveSavior he killed M.M.'s family without any remorse]], so it's understandable why M.M. would assume racism given this. According to WordOfGod, there were [[WhatCouldHaveBeen initially going to be scenes with him actually being racist]] but Creator/JensenAckles was too uncomfortable with them.
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* Jeremiah Walker in ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/19300/the-man-with-two-names The Man With Two Names]]'' is stated more than once to have a problem with his temper. Yet the only times he's shown losing his temper in the story are when someone is completely screwing him over, such as a vendor charging him over ten times as much due to racism or his employer not only refusing to help him get a work visa so he won't get deported to [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the Everfree Forest]] but also trying to frame him for attempted murder. The ultimate case being his argument and "murder" of his older brother, Abe. The story completely ignores that not only was Jeremiah the wronged party, like always, but that Abe was the one who escalted their argument to violence and his death was a complete accident which Jeremiah was [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone completely horrified by]] [[note]]Abe stole the pastor position at the local church Jeremiah always wanted. Their father was the previous pastor and Jeremiah had been training to become the new pastor since he was a kid while Abe wanted nothing to do with the church. After college, Abe came home with a useless degree, no money, and no job, so their father gave him the pastor position out of pity. After taking the job, Abe then proceeded to remove all Christian influences from the church to "be more inclusive", and his idea of helping Jeremiah is offering a recommendation for him to be pastor at a ''church of a different religion''. When called him out, Abe hit him, resulting in them escalating to a fist fight. While his brother was strangling him, Jeremiah blindly grabbed a knife he kept in his boot (due to being a camping enthusiast) and Jeremiah lashed out, accidentally gutting his brother[/note]].

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* Jeremiah Walker in ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/19300/the-man-with-two-names The Man With Two Names]]'' is stated more than once to have a problem with his temper. Yet the only times he's shown losing his temper in the story are when someone is completely screwing him over, such as a vendor charging him over ten times as much due to racism or his employer not only refusing to help him get a work visa so he won't get deported to [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the Everfree Forest]] but also trying to frame him for attempted murder. The ultimate case being his argument and "murder" of his older brother, Abe. The story completely ignores that not only was Jeremiah the wronged party, like always, but that Abe was the one who escalted their argument to violence and his death was a complete accident which Jeremiah was [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone completely horrified by]] [[note]]Abe stole the pastor position at the local church Jeremiah always wanted. Their father was the previous pastor and Jeremiah had been training to become the new pastor since he was a kid while Abe wanted nothing to do with the church. After college, Abe came home with a useless degree, no money, and no job, so their father gave him the pastor position out of pity. After taking the job, Abe then proceeded to remove all Christian influences from the church to "be more inclusive", and his idea of helping Jeremiah is offering a recommendation for him to be pastor at a ''church of a different religion''. When Jeremiah called him out, Abe hit him, resulting in them escalating to a fist fight. While his brother was strangling him, Jeremiah blindly grabbed a knife he kept in his boot (due to being a camping enthusiast) and Jeremiah lashed out, accidentally gutting his brother[/note]].brother.
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* Bandit from ''WesternAnimation/Bluey'' apparently has a weight problem and is concerned about being overweight, and needs to get into shape. He is, of course, drawn with the same rectangle shape as every other character.

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* Bandit from ''WesternAnimation/Bluey'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Bluey}}'' apparently has a weight problem and is concerned about being overweight, and needs to get into shape. He is, of course, drawn with the same rectangle shape as every other character.
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* Bandit from ''WesternAnimation/{{Bluey}} apparently has a weight problem and is concerned about being overweight, and needs to get into shape. He is, of course, drawn with the same rectangle shape as every other character.

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* Bandit from ''WesternAnimation/{{Bluey}} ''WesternAnimation/Bluey'' apparently has a weight problem and is concerned about being overweight, and needs to get into shape. He is, of course, drawn with the same rectangle shape as every other character.
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* Ronan of ''Naruto Veangance Revelations'', has two flaws listed; he has a mole on his face, and he can't do housework. He has over ''six times'' the point threshold at which the "Official Mary Sue Litmus Test" says a character is a lost cause.
* ''FanFic/MyImmortal'': Snap and Loopin are apparently [[RonTheDeathEater pedophiles]] for [[ThePeepingTom peeping]] on Ebony. While it's certainly wrong to peep, [[HotForStudent especially on one's student]], Ebony is of legal age. Also, Loopin is apparently very dangerous even though he doesn't do anything, and is actually somewhat polite toward Ebony.

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* Ronan of ''Naruto Veangance Revelations'', has two flaws listed; he has a mole on his face, and he can't do housework. He has over ''six times'' In ''Fanfic/FireEmblemThreeHousesFifthPath'' Hilda is frequently referred to as being lazy by others, much like in the point threshold at which the "Official Mary Sue Litmus Test" says a character actual game, but is a lost cause.
* ''FanFic/MyImmortal'': Snap and Loopin are apparently [[RonTheDeathEater pedophiles]] for [[ThePeepingTom peeping]] on Ebony. While it's certainly wrong to peep, [[HotForStudent especially on one's student]], Ebony is of legal age. Also, Loopin is apparently very dangerous even though he doesn't do anything, and is
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* ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainSeekerOfCrocus'' has many things it says about Goh that really aren't backed up by the story itself.
** The main problem with Goh that gives him flak to no end are his, as often eloquently put, "piss-poor social skills". However, while his social skills do need a bit of work, most of the examples regarding social skills aren't even directly connected to them; instead, they're the result of him being LockedOutOfTheLoop (He didn't know about Chloe's problems so he didn't even know that she needed help), him being InnocentlyInsensitive and then having said moment blown out of proportion (Him saying his damning words to Chloe, which eventually led to the girl demonizing him and cutting him out of her life), or even outright slander meant to make him look worse (again, most of what Chloe says about him in her initial train trip, and also what Class 5-E prefer to do during their free time.)
** The narrative makes it no secret that Goh stays inside in front of a computer all day, looking obssessively for Mew and ignoring everything around him. However, rarely is Goh ever actually shown cooped up in his room, let alone near any computers; if anything, he actually spends more time at the Institute than at his own house.
** Another flaw that gets called out is that Goh tends to take things for granted because everything gets handed to him on a silver platter. However, the same things that are said to be given to him (a job as a research assistant, not having to go to school except for tests) were either because of his qualifications (the job) or because of external sources that were worried for his safety (the staying at home part), with every other interaction he has with people not even showing them giving him the time of day.
** It's mentioned later down the act that with Chloe not being around to deliver him his homework, Goh has fallen behind in his studies. This would imply that he's BookDumb, but there's rarely a moment in the story that shows him being that bad at studying; at most, he's shown to not be enthused about studying and heading to school when he doesn't need to, which is perfectly justified given how terrible school is in this story.
** As Chloe herself puts it, "if it's not about Mew, it's not his problem". This implies a level of tunnel vision that means he doesn't bother with anything else if the Pokémon isn't involved, but the story shows otherwise: not only is Goh able to become aware of other problems that don't relate to Mew, the Pokemon himself rarely ever crosses his mind.
* Jeremiah Walker in ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/19300/the-man-with-two-names The Man With Two Names]]'' is stated more than once to have a problem with his temper. Yet the only times he's shown losing his temper in the story are when someone is completely screwing him over, such as a vendor charging him over ten times as much due to racism or his employer not only refusing to help him get a work visa so he won't get deported to [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the Everfree Forest]] but also trying to frame him for attempted murder. The ultimate case being his argument and "murder" of his older brother, Abe. The story completely ignores that not only was Jeremiah the wronged party, like always, but that Abe was the one who escalted their argument to violence and his death was a complete accident which Jeremiah was [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone completely horrified by]] [[note]]Abe stole the pastor position at the local church Jeremiah always wanted. Their father was the previous pastor and Jeremiah had been training to become the new pastor since he was a kid while Abe wanted nothing to do with the church. After college, Abe came home with a useless degree, no money, and no job, so their father gave him the pastor position out of pity. After taking the job, Abe then proceeded to remove all Christian influences from the church to "be more inclusive", and his idea of helping Jeremiah is offering a recommendation for him to be pastor at a ''church of a different religion''. When called him out, Abe hit him, resulting in them escalating to a fist fight. While his brother was strangling him, Jeremiah blindly grabbed a knife he kept in his boot (due to being a camping enthusiast) and Jeremiah lashed out, accidentally gutting his brother[/note]].
* ''FanFic/MyImmortal'': Snap and Loopin are apparently [[RonTheDeathEater pedophiles]] for [[ThePeepingTom peeping]] on Ebony. While it's certainly wrong to peep, [[HotForStudent especially on one's student]], Ebony is of legal age. Also, Loopin is apparently very dangerous even though he doesn't do anything, and is actually somewhat polite toward Ebony.
* Ronan of ''Naruto Veangance Revelations'', has two flaws listed; he has a mole on his face, and he can't do housework. He has over ''six times'' the point threshold at which the "Official Mary Sue Litmus Test" says a character is a lost cause.



* ''Fanfic/{{Origins}}'': A ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Halo=]'']] MassiveMultiplayerCrossover, Admiral Allison Nimitz really, really doesn't like working with the Pandorans and inhabitants of the wider galaxy because they're "uncivilized". She does anyway, claiming the GodzillaThreshold has been crossed, but given everything that's happened (and indeed looking at things Trans-Galactic Republic forces participated in previously, such as at a minimum ignoring tyranny spreading as a result of their technology), her complaints [[{{Hypocrite}} fall flat.]] Further, the actions of the {{Mega Corp}}s [[JustifiedTrope make sense in their own universe,]] which is even discussed by a Trans-Galactic Republic captain, alluding to [[BlueAndOrangeMorality "blue and orange paint".]]
* Manga/{{Naruto}}'s orange outfit--tons of fanfics go out of their way to mock it, talk about how impractical it is for a ninja, and point out how ''insanely'' bright it is, and generally have him replace it with an outfit the author considers more practical (generally all-black, which is even ''worse'' for stealth since it stands out against anything). However, Naruto's getup isn't much brighter than what everyone else wears, and as canon shows it hasn't hindered his stealth ability.



* ''Fanfic/{{Origins}}'': A ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Halo=]'']] MassiveMultiplayerCrossover, Admiral Allison Nimitz really, really doesn't like working with the Pandorans and inhabitants of the wider galaxy because they're "uncivilized". She does anyway, claiming the GodzillaThreshold has been crossed, but given everything that's happened (and indeed looking at things Trans-Galactic Republic forces participated in previously, such as at a minimum ignoring tyranny spreading as a result of their technology), her complaints [[{{Hypocrite}} fall flat.]] Further, the actions of the {{Mega Corp}}s [[JustifiedTrope make sense in their own universe,]] which is even discussed by a Trans-Galactic Republic captain, alluding to [[BlueAndOrangeMorality "blue and orange paint".]]
* Manga/{{Naruto}}'s orange outfit--tons of fanfics go out of their way to mock it, talk about how impractical it is for a ninja, and point out how ''insanely'' bright it is, and generally have him replace it with an outfit the author considers more practical (generally all-black, which is even ''worse'' for stealth since it stands out against anything). However, Naruto's getup isn't much brighter than what everyone else wears, and as canon shows it hasn't hindered his stealth ability.
* Jeremiah Walker in ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/19300/the-man-with-two-names The Man With Two Names]]'' is stated more than once to have a problem with his temper. Yet the only times he's shown losing his temper in the story are when someone is completely screwing him over, such as a vendor charging him over ten times as much due to racism or his employer not only refusing to help him get a work visa so he won't get deported to [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the Everfree Forest]] but also trying to frame him for attempted murder. The ultimate case being his argument and "murder" of his older brother, Abe. The story completely ignores that not only was Jeremiah the wronged party, like always, but that Abe was the one who escalted their argument to violence and his death was a complete accident which Jeremiah was [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone completely horrified by]] [[note]]Abe stole the pastor position at the local church Jeremiah always wanted. Their father was the previous pastor and Jeremiah had been training to become the new pastor since he was a kid while Abe wanted nothing to do with the church. After college, Abe came home with a useless degree, no money, and no job, so their father gave him the pastor position out of pity. After taking the job, Abe then proceeded to remove all Christian influences from the church to "be more inclusive", and his idea of helping Jeremiah is offering a recommendation for him to be pastor at a ''church of a different religion''. When called him out, Abe hit him, resulting in them escalating to a fist fight. While his brother was strangling him, Jeremiah blindly grabbed a knife he kept in his boot (due to being a camping enthusiast) and Jeremiah lashed out, accidentally gutting his brother[/note]].
* In ''Fanfic/FireEmblemThreeHousesFifthPath'' Hilda is frequently referred to as being lazy by others, much like in the actual game, but is never actually shown being lazy.
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Hollywood Dateless is no Allegedly Dateless, and character only counts if the character has dates and it treated like they don't


A SubTrope of InformedAttribute and ShowDontTell, and a SuperTrope of HollywoodHomely, HollywoodPudgy, HollywoodDateless, GorgeousGorgon, InformedLoner, TinMan, and DesignatedVillain. Can cover UrbanLegendLoveLife when the character's romantic/sexual tendencies are portrayed as a flaw. Related to InformedAbility. Contrast with IAmNotLeftHanded, CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass, and ObfuscatingStupidity.

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A SubTrope of InformedAttribute and ShowDontTell, and a SuperTrope of HollywoodHomely, HollywoodPudgy, HollywoodDateless, AllegedlyDateless, GorgeousGorgon, InformedLoner, TinMan, and DesignatedVillain. Can cover UrbanLegendLoveLife when the character's romantic/sexual tendencies are portrayed as a flaw. Related to InformedAbility. Contrast with IAmNotLeftHanded, CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass, and ObfuscatingStupidity.

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